CONFIRMED: Trump won't take part in Fox's GOP debate

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Coulter

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DannyBoy said:
Maybe Fox is a loser, but it will be interesting to see how badly they rip him up without him being there... so he is the guy who can make deals? and he can't get along with Republicans? I thought Cruz was the guy who can't get along? Just saying, that is what 'they' are going to say...
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Name 10 Republicans who are not RINO's?
 
BetterLateThanNever

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Zoner said:
I like Trump's move here. He don't care about Kelly. He didn't like the disrespect by Roger Ailes. Good for him. I'm laughing at Fox.
I won't watch. just sayin...
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^^^This

As President, I'm sure that relations will be more cordial with Putin, Netanyahu etc. and that they won't go out of their way to frek with him like the "blond bimbo" from fox.

Way to go giving Ailes and fox the midIdle finger Donald!
 
coalcracker

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The Cub said:
Is Trump scheduling his town hall meeting for the vets at the same time as the FOX debate? I would like to see Faux news get hit big time.
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I would guess "yes," it'll be at the same time, and I would not be surprised if Trump has a media outlet already lined up to cover it. As Doug said, Trump is playing chess. The proceeds of his event going to Wounded Warriors is a stroke of brilliance. Plus, he'll stay in the headlines simply by not being there. This move is a WIN.
 
Hansa44

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Plain Jane said:
The news media has brought this on themselves. Once candidates figure out that they can walk away from the debates, the pundits etc. no longer have the opportunity to skewer the candidates with meaningless and insulting questions.
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And it isn't just the debates. Trump has been totally upset with the MSM and finally took some action. The last debate 24 million people watched. Trump tried to get them CNN or Fox

to give some of the millions they made to wounded warriors because the only person they wanted to see was Trump. And he's right!

I wonder how many will watch when Trump isn't there. As I see it, this is part of the deal he is offering to Fox and he's not going to bend.

It will be interesting to see what Fox's greed and lies is going to go.
 
Snyper

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JohnGaltfla said:
Logic won't work, so I'll end this until Thursday with the following:

If Trump does not show up on Thursday night, he is disrespecting the people of Iowa. By doing so, he loses by over 10% and poll numbers start to creep down rapidly in New Hampshire.

You heard it hear first.
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So if we don't agree with you, we aren't "logical"?
That sounds oddly like "common sense gun control"
 
BetterLateThanNever

BetterLateThanNever

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JohnGaltfla said:
Logic won't work, so I'll end this until Thursday with the following:

If Trump does not show up on Thursday night, he is disrespecting the people of Iowa. By doing so, he loses by over 10% and poll numbers start to creep down rapidly in New Hampshire.

You heard it hear first.
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Whats the problem.....your boy Cruz will be there and he will pretty much be the key attraction.

Maybe the blond will use her questions meant for Trump on Cruz.
 
Zoner

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I like Cruz too. I'll vote for either. I just don't like Faux any more. They are faux conservatives and have a Vatican agenda imo.
 
Hfcomms

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Heliobas Disciple said:
With respect: this IS handling Fox news. He's not obligated to go to the debate, he's a free person in a free country. He's choosing not to participate. This shows he has more balls than every other candidate combined who just sucks up whatever the party and the MSM throws at them. The thinking you have is backwards, after years of being programmed into thinking that you have to play by their rules, you see anyone by not playing by their rules as losing. He's saying he plays by his own rules. He's winning. Bravo to Mr. Trump.

HD
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Bingo! He is not going to let MSM make the news. Now they're going to be talking about him even more. It's a strategic move and really has nothing to do with Megyn....she is his patsy. He can go to CNN or somewhere who will cover him for a town hall at the same time and steal the ratings away from Fox.
 
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Laurane said:
Trump will be at the Iowa Events Center in Des Moines (big place) doing a Town Hall kind of thing and raising money for Wounded Warriors and Vets at 9pm Central Time. He had asked Fox News to help this group by putting some of the profits from the Debate, but they declined.

So he will do it and many will watch it and contribute.......it would be wonderful if he raised $1 million for the WW and was able to show that he could do this better than Fox News.

JGFla - He is not disrespecting the people of Iowa - he is showing how he would handle the media who are making a pile of money on him and not even giving anything back to those who need it.
Many of those WW and Vets will come from Iowa........
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He's showing what HE'S made of, and what Faux News is made of.
 
Heliobas Disciple

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Here's where it gets interesting.

The advertisers who paid a fortune because of the expected audience (which will now not be there) are going to start to pull out. Fox starts to lose money and Ailes has a decision to make. Does he ask Megyn to step down or does he lose all the money he otherwise was expecting to make off of the debate?

Megyn is more to blame than Donald in this because she is making it all about Megyn just like she (and the other FOX moderators) did for the first debate. This is supposed to be about showcasing the candidates, NOT the moderators. Shame on her for not stepping down when asked. Is she a journalist or an egomaniac talking head who wants all the attention? :shk: (see how that works both ways?)

HD
 
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DannyBoy said:
Maybe Fox is a loser, but it will be interesting to see how badly they rip him up without him being there... so he is the guy who can make deals? and he can't get along with Republicans? I thought Cruz was the guy who can't get along? Just saying, that is what 'they' are going to say...
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At this point, what "they" say and "they" think is pretty irrelevant. What VOTERS say and think is what counts, and if I was a betting woman I'd bet good money that this debate will have far fewer watchers than any of the previous ones. FAR fewer.
 
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Doomer Doug said:
Gang, the "Donald" is REDEFINING THE ENTIRE POLITICAL CONTEXT IN THIS 2016 AMERICAN ELECTION. People still don't get that. Trump is beyond it all at this point. He is perfectly willing to take on the global media cartels when they trash talk him in these debates. Sorry John, but Trump skipping the debate is FREAKING BRILLIANT! He now throws the issue of wealth concentration, media cartels, populism and the uber liberal press out into the ether and defines the entire debate on how the media treats conservatives on his terms. Sheesh, the guy is getting some good political advice, and more importantly following it.

Yeah, he made a serious error in judgment now that he is linking up with neo cons like Sarah Palin and fundamentalist types like Falwell and crowd. Still, his instincts are sound. This isn't about Trump dissing Iowa voters, John. It is about FOX news dissing Iowa voters and Trump standing up for them. Trump is expanding the pie and bringing in millions of new voters, even if is losing hundreds of thousands of secular populists by going neo con fascist. Trump is expanding the sand box. Trump is redefining the terms of the political discourse on issue after issue.

Hell yah, Trump is going to win big since he mashed Fox and Murdoch, who is deeply unpopular, in the face. Trump is playing chess; everybody else is still playing Crazy Eights.
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I agree execpt the parts about Palin and Falwell. Trump didn't seek them out, they got in touch with him. And that will siphon Cruz/etc type followers away from them. Or IOW, Evangelical types who think Trump isn't "pure" enough will now vote for him. Good move really.
 
Heliobas Disciple

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BetterLateThanNever said:
^^^This

As President, I'm sure that relations will be more cordial with Putin, Netanyahu etc. and that they won't go out of their way to frek with him like the "blond bimbo" from fox.

Way to go giving Ailes and fox the midIdle finger Donald!
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He's actually already paving the way for future negotiations with them as well. He's letting everyone in the world know he's unpredictable and that he will walk away from any 'table' if he feels disrespected. That's what we need in today's world - not some pansy who apologizes in advance and lays all his cards face up on the table for everyone to see before the negotiations even begin. The left and the RINOs and the GOPe will try to spin this, but Donald's numbers will go up, not down, after this move. And the USA will start gaining the respect back that we've lost over the last 7 years.

HD
 
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Medical Maven

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In a nutshell Trump thinks OUT OF THE BOX!

We desperately need such an unconventional President to fight all of the entrenched powers that have just about destroyed this country over the last few decades.

It is not the time to go along to get along, far far from it.

We are trying to pull to an inside straight at this point. And it is our last chance.
 
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Shacknasty Shagrat

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Heliobas Disciple said:
Here's where it gets interesting.

The advertisers who paid a fortune because of the expected audience (which will now not be there) are going to start to pull out. Fox starts to lose money and Ailes has a decision to make. Does he ask Megyn to step down or does he lose all the money he otherwise was expecting to make off of the debate? '


HD, that was a very well reasoned analysis.
Fox can have a fair debate or no debate. Their choice.
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Shacknasty Shagrat

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Medical Maven said:
In a nutshell Trump thinks OUT OF THE BOX!

We desperately need such an unconventional President to fight all of the entrenched powers that have just about destroyed this country over the last few decades.

It is not the time to go along to get along, far far from it.

We are trying to pull to an inside straight at this point. And it is our last chance.
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Excellent post!!
Mr. Trump is asymmetrical to the 'normal' process. Watch and learn.
I am agreeing with so many people that I think I am on the wrong board.
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coalcracker

coalcracker

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This move also has a strategic aspect.
If Trump loses Iowa (which is very possible), he can now paint it as due to not attending a debate. He will shortly thereafter cruise to victory in New Hampshire, and his image will not be harmed at all. On the other hand, if he attended the debate and lost Iowa, he'd have to personally take ownership of that loss and his image would take a hit.
 
fairbanksb

fairbanksb

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You people are beginning to scare me. Are we turning into a 1930's Germany? Trump told Playboy magazine that he admired the way the Chinese handled Tianamen Square. Be careful of what you wish for.
 
BornFree

BornFree

Came This Far
fairbanksb said:
Poor baby got his feelings hurt. AWWWW. Afraid of tough questions from a female talking head. His skin is thinner than Obama's, but his ego is bigger.
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No- The problem is that she does not really ask questions at all. Not if you consider that she answers them herself by going on an attack campaign against the candidate. You should have watched the last fox debate and you would know exactly why Trump decided to take a stand.
 
thompson

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Plain Jane said:
Fox News (Rupert Murdoch) has the same globalist agenda as the rest of the media. They promote open borders, horrible "free trade" deals and endless wars. Megan Kelly is a distraction from the main point. It's Fox News itself and the agenda that is the real target.
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Millwright

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Tactics...

Recognizing an ambush and avoiding it, especially if the objective isn't worth the fight.
 
Red Baron

Red Baron

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Fox is going to lose a buttload of revenue due to poor rattings without Trump at the debate.

Sponsors will likely not pull out. Typically the sponsors will get compensated for a ratings dud by getting free advertising time in the future.

Either way, FOX will lose a lot of money in the near term and Fox will lose a lot of leverage with advertisers in the future.
 
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Mixin, the clip from the press conference is fantastic. Everyone should watch it. He looks like the adult, and Faux news looks like whining nasty little children.
 
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fairbanksb said:
You people are beginning to scare me. Are we turning into a 1930's Germany? Trump told Playboy magazine that he admired the way the Chinese handled Tianamen Square. Be careful of what you wish for.
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Can you quote Trump saying that, and context? TIA.
 
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Heliobas Disciple said:
He's actually already paving the way for future negotiations with them as well. He's letting everyone in the world know he's unpredictable and that he will walk away from any 'table' if he feels disrespected. That's what we need in today's world - not some pansy who apologizes in advance and lays all his cards face up on the table for everyone to see before the negotiations even begin. The left and the RINOs and the GOPe will try to spin this, but Donald's numbers will go up, not down, after this move. And the USA will start gaining the respect back that we've lost over the last 7 years.

HD
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Trump looks like the only adult in the room and the only one with spine and who can think on his feet and stand up to a-holes.
 
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Shacknasty Shagrat

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fairbanksb said:
You people are beginning to scare me. Are we turning into a 1930's Germany? Trump told Playboy magazine that he admired the way the Chinese handled Tianamen Square. Be careful of what you wish for.
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Could you expand on the 'you people'? Am I one of the 'you people'?
What leads you to wonder if 'we' are turning into a '1930's Germany'?
What 'we' Tonto, are you talking about?
I, myself, have always opposed fascism and totalitarianism.
Thus, I oppose Mr. Obama and his regime.
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Dennis Olson

Dennis Olson

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Here's how I see it: had Fox not released that snarky statement, Trump would have made a big error by doing this. However, Fox DID release that statement. Now Trump will be seen as telling them to shove their snark up their asses. He'll GAIN popularity over it. But he got damn lucky...


JMHO
 
Hansa44

Hansa44

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I can't help but wonder if Roger Ails gets a phone call from Megan Kelly that she's decided to step down. This whole thing will cost Fox millions.
 
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