OT/MISC Will you ever buy an electric vehicle?

[freemen]

Be sure you have a generator to charge if you lose electric service.

 

[shane]

Bought Polaris EV six months ago, use it almost daily for chores
around ranch, plugs into solar PV's anytime parked, so far so good...



Panic Early, Beat the Rush!
- Shane

 

[ktrapper]

Bought Polaris EV six months ago, use it almost daily for chores
around ranch, plugs into solar PV's anytime parked, so far so good...

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I have looked at these a few times. If I read correctly they do not have a Lithium battery so should be cheaper to replace but not as long of life cycle I wouldn’t think.

We have solar, so was thinking the same thing to use around the ranch.

I will be very interested at how this machine performs for you.

 

[shane]

I have looked at these a few times. If I read correctly they do not have a Lithium battery so should be cheaper to replace but not as long of life cycle I wouldn’t think.

We have solar, so was thinking the same thing to use around the ranch.

I will be very interested at how this machine performs for you.

Mine's normal lead acid wet batteries, though they do have a lithium battery version out now, too.
Both more money & longer waiting period to get. Range is supposed to be upwards of 30 miles,
though we've only run it about 1/2 that ourselves before plugging in. We have some steep 4X4
450' elevation changes that it zips up pretty briskly, even with two large adult passengers, so it's
plenty fast & powerful enough, for me anyways.

Panic Early, Beat the Rush!
- Shane

 

[Firebird]

Bought Polaris EV six months ago, use it almost daily for chores
around ranch, plugs into solar PV's anytime parked, so far so good...

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Panic Early, Beat the Rush!
- Shane

One of our local motorcycle dealers had one of those. It burst into flames one evening, and burned the place to the ground

 

[raven]

Would you buy a wood gas vehicle?

 

[shane]

One of our local motorcycle dealers had one of those. It burst into flames one evening, and burned the place to the ground

I'm just guessing here, but If so, more likely lithium
version, not the typical lead acid wet batteries, IMO.

Panic Early, Beat the Rush!
- Shane

 

[flame]

a friend of ours in California bought a Tesla..one day at work he went to the parking lot and started the car, the battery was pretty low I guess. He was a little confused because during the day as the car sat in the parking lot, the battery drained.

He called up the Tesla dealer and told him what happened.

The Tesla guy said, "Was it parked in the sun all day?"

My friend said "Yeah."

Tesla Guy then told him, "Well, you shouldn't park it in the sun all day, the battery will drain."

say wtf????

 

[MinnesotaSmith]

I'm not good with the spontaneous fires.

In the garage if it's a Democrat? If the dwelling is free-standing, I can see upsides to a fire then...

 

[MinnesotaSmith]

How well the whole electric enviroscam biz works:

Note that the only windmill even turning in the wind is the one on fire.

Another windmill working as intended:

View: https://youtu.be/u14tBwO5QVQ


40 seconds RT. Just a windmill working up to specs. SFW.

 

[vector7]

imagine owning an electric car in Florida right now.

I'm not good with the spontaneous fires.

Buttigieg: Electric Vehicles Could Be 'Very Useful' During a Power Outage

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1579653026566266881

View: https://twitter.com/theMRC/status/1579653026566266881?s=20&t=FvBRD-WVVd9mc7Xe8s-ZPA

 

[Loretta Van Riet]

Buttigieg: Electric Vehicles Could Be 'Very Useful' During a Power Outage

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1579653026566266881

View: https://twitter.com/theMRC/status/1579653026566266881?s=20&t=FvBRD-WVVd9mc7Xe8s-ZPA

I would consider a hydrogen powered vehicle once the refueling stations are more available.

Hydrogen Fuel Cell Vehicles Makes a Push to Overtake Electric

Over the last few years, there has been an electric revolution bubbling beneath the surface of the auto industry. Spearheaded by Tesla and their FREE charging stations, fossil fuel burning cars hav…

blog.4wheelonline.com

 

[lonestar09]

Would you buy a wood gas vehicle?

I wouldn't mind having one. I remember seeing the pictures back from Mother Earth News on their wood gas truck.

 

[WildDaisy]

Will I ever buy an electric car. Yes, most likely. Who knows what 20-30 years holds. Will I buy one now - NO

 

[ainitfunny]

I'll never say never, but I'm not interested at this point.

It just wouldn't work for me.

The sucky part is this commie push to force EVs on us is killing me on fuel, even tho there isn't one that would do what I need a vehicle to do.

The NEW GOVERNMENT isnt like our old government.
What YOU NEED is without standing in the discussion of what will be. ONLY what the government needs FROM YOU has standing and authority.

Unfortunately, such sweeping government rules, that make little or no common sense accomodation for the NEEDS of the people who keep our whole system running is short sighted and can FURTHER CRIPPLE OUR NATION because some 80 IQ POLITITION wanted it to be a simple rule.

 

[ainitfunny]

An electric car is NOT gonna take Mom and Dad and 4 teens with their camping stuff and luggage on a long car vacation.

 

[vector7]

Hidden deep in Biden’s Infrastructure Package is a provision requiring all cars built after 2026 to have a “vehicle kill switch” that is remotely accessible. This would allow police or other government authorities to access it whenever.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1587382780593410049

View: https://twitter.com/HarrisonKrank/status/1587382780593410049?s=20&t=XZGCDWEGfaKWA4igEv6Lgw

 

[vector7]

Kerry: "By 2035, President Biden wants the power sector in America to be carbon-free"
RT 1min

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1587902062691491840

View: https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1587902062691491840?s=20&t=8oxPd25dC9Kukrob0w3V6Q


Inconvenient fact about electric cars

#1: If you drive it 60,000 miles… you put MORE carbon in the air than a gas powered car.

Only after 60,000 miles do you use less.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1587562123080581121

View: https://twitter.com/JohnStossel/status/1587562123080581121?s=20&t=IvP0SQzztnYX7NuSTHEKVA

 

[vector7]

China: A Tesla malfunctions and runs off at Maximum speed instead of parking itself, killing 2 people and injuring several others. It is believed that its AI was sabotaged by Chinese engineers.
RT 1min

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1591819120202649600

View: https://twitter.com/Terror_Alarm/status/1591819120202649600?t=luyDYDmfI9Z1LfbBxEKMKw&s=19

 

[vector7]

World Economic Forum calls for end to private car ownership Source: Fox Business (Youtube)
RT 2min

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1601690654366920704

View: https://twitter.com/backtolife_2023/status/1601690654366920704?s=20&t=NCmLgeK0lAaIkrsLlQeDQA

 

[changed]

I heard something on the radio recently that they won't have AM on the radios of electric vehicles because the batteries of the car produce so much electronic interference that you can't get any reception. I don't know about ya'all, but I listen almost exclusively to AM when I am driving.

 

[AlfaMan]

As an aside to all this thread on buying electric cars; yesterday I drove one that was actually quite fun.


Now, in my job we road test every vehicle we inspect. So, I've driven Teslas (drive like a ocean liner with the anchor out-what a poorly built and nasty driving PIG!), Nissan Leafs (not fast but handle well), a Polestar or two (which are Chinese built and sluggish. And Geely is their (and Volvo's) parent company-IE horrible!!! cars), a Lucid Air (reminds me of a 30's Dusenberg-power and tons of style), Honda hybrids (boring...) GM Bolts and Volts (better than one would expect from GM), and others I probably forgot to mention.

Yesterday I got to inspect-and drive-one of the new F-150 Lightning EV pickups. Had 1000 miles on it. All I could say when I mashed the go pedal was "WHOA!!!!!!!". That truck has acceleration that literally mashes you back in your seat-hard. Like a Ferarri 308 GTS, or a Alfa Il Mostro or Montreal, or a C-63 Mercedes AMG, a BMW M-4 competition lightweight; a current Porsche 911 or a 70 Dodge Challenger 440 six pack at the track.....Easily 2 G's generated, very surprising. Traction control won't let you spin wheels; so it just goes like a spooked jackrabbit. And 3 other inspectors (gearheads too) were in it too. That truck was one of the most impressive straight line accelerating vehicles I've driven in a while.

And the front where the engine usually would go becomes a "frunk" or, a 'front trunk". in the Lightning it's big and useable space too. There's a 120 v outlet in there too.

I'm not a fan of EV's but the acceleration and handling (felt pretty well balanced) were really impressive.

 

[AlfaMan]

I heard something on the radio recently that they won't have AM on the radios of electric vehicles because the batteries of the car produce so much electronic interference that you can't get any reception. I don't know about ya'all, but I listen almost exclusively to AM when I am driving.

Yes, no AM radios in them because of the interference. But from what I'm hearing the .gov (FCC) is going to force them to keep AM radios in the cars.
It shouldn't be too hard of a fix; carmakers are trying to cut corners and cheap up the cars for maximum profit.

 

[vector7]

On my watch, the great American road trip is going to be fully electrified. And now, through a tax credit, you can get up to $7,500 on a new electric vehicle.

Americans can’t afford eggs and Biden does promo ads for a $110K car.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1620139710197960704

View: https://twitter.com/MarinaMedvin/status/1620139710197960704?t=JbnHvhX21YGwYKs37-L97Q&s=19

 

[TammyinWI]

It is not feasible aka doable, and they know it.

 

[Terriannie]

I wonder if that's the kind of Humvee that took almost a week to charge?

 

[undead]

there was a company that was developing an electric car that used an electrolyte fuel tank instead of a battery, and that is the electric vehicle I would be interested in

 

[lisa]

Looking at their prices...No. I do good to afford something under $3000.

 

[bartp40]

I read an article where scientists are trying to make electricity go through the air directly to the motor of the vehicle. It would not need batteries.

EVs should have an alternator to generate its own electricity back to the batteries.

 

[33dInd]

Nope
Not in my future

 

[Jeff Allen]

I've got a reservation for a tri-motor Cybertruck. Finally, something with a 500 mile range (which really means I've got a 300 mile day covered in any weather...which is my minimum requirement).
I work in the field for healthcare (and own the business...my employees run CRV's or Corollas). 50,000+ miles per year. 9 out of 10 days I'll run .02 per mile for fuel with the CT (once the damn thing is FINALLY made....) which is significantly less than the .21 per mile I pay for fuel right now. At $5 its closer to .30 per mile. On the 1 in 10 day I need an overnight I'll run my old RV/Van (RAM 2500 high roof van) so I can spend the overnight there instead of a disgusting hotel (I only stay at hilton properties...and I still think they are gross after some thousands of nights in hotels...they are ALL GROSS)....

0-60 in 2.9. Hmmmm....this will be the fastest vehicle I've ever owned by a large margin. Hate to think what my tires will look like after a few WOT starts off the line, even with the traction control gonna be loooooosing rubber, lol.

Vehicle is a TOOL. I was sold at "bulletproof" as far as I was concerned, LOL. Holy Lord, we take care of an account on the south side of chicago that is literally in "the hood"...or "hell", but damn if the patients and staff aren't the nicest folks you ever worked for...I just can't fire the account....the staff is like "oh, thank you so much for helping us"....its really nuts how nice they are and we do over 70 hospitals....and the nicest staff is "in hell" so to speak? Ok, bulletproof works for me...after all, get to park in "special" next to the hosptial status so....its not like I have to walk through hell to get to work....but, I do wear a bulletproof hoodie when I work that account.
SO...yes, I will be buying an EV and it will be spendy as hell, we don't even know price yet and it will still be YEARS before I get mine, so, I'll pay cash. I've got an account set aside that gets a couple grand a month for this purpose.
And yeah, bulletproof and all stainless steel are awesome selling points to me....but number one, without any reservation is the FSD (full self drive) option.....holy hell, if I could actually finish all my work during the drive so I don't have to spend time in the office when I get home....worth $50,000 to me, and currently its only $15,000....and NOT FSD yet....but if you watch the videos, DAMN CLOSE on the freeway....
And, if the chinese hack my tesla and kill me while in FSD mode...I don't even care...I've stared at so many million miles I'd do almost anything not to have to drive 30+hrs every week.....and I've got the memo, getting old sucks, so, hey, I could die in a fiery wreck instead, totally fine with me.

J

 

[Old Gray Mare]

Would you buy a wood gas vehicle?

Somewhere in the future I guessing wood gas would probably be killed by the emissions testing?

If I were to get an electric vehicle it'd probably be a sailboat. As long as it's in sunny lower latitudes, it'd be good to go. Yes, battery capacity and usage has to monitored. Further north a generator back up is needed.

 

[Terriannie]

I read an article where scientists are trying to make electricity go through the air directly to the motor of the vehicle. It would not need batteries.

EVs should have an alternator to generate its own electricity back to the batteries.

That's what my sister's Hyundai Hybrid does. It runs on electric but switches to gas when the charge is low. The battery generates it's own charge as she drives. She's had it for about 5 years and loves it.

 

[Jeff Allen]

BTW, as for EV's being "feasible", at a 300 mile range they would work for a daily driver for literally 99% of the population.

Think of it.

You would NEVER...as in ever...during your normal commute to work have to stop at a damn gas station. You charge at home for a very small percentage of what your liquid fuel costs.

Every day, you leave your garage with 240 miles of range (300 miles charged to 80% so battery will last 15 years or longer)
I spend almost an hour a week at gas stations. Once I have my EV that will drop to mere minutes per week over the year.

I drive well over 50,000 miles a year and will work for me with very few (like once per two week period) supercharger hook ups (200 miles of range in 15 minutes for cars).
Of course, if you buy crap ev's (not tesla) you are stuck with the craptastic charging infrastructure for them, which, some chargers work...some don't...As an engineer I've worked up all sorts of data on my normal travel.....
BUT...you only need the charging network if you are on a "road trip". Which...is sort of my every day life, lol

But hey, you can hate on something all you want, doesn't change facts. And for me, as a business owner, makes fiscal and time sense....I couldn't care less what anyone else chooses to drive.

J

 

[Firebird]

BTW, as for EV's being "feasible", at a 300 mile range they would work for a daily driver for literally 99% of the population.

Think of it.

You would NEVER...as in ever...during your normal commute to work have to stop at a damn gas station. You charge at home for a very small percentage of what your liquid fuel costs.

Every day, you leave your garage with 240 miles of range (300 miles charged to 80% so battery will last 15 years or longer)
I spend almost an hour a week at gas stations. Once I have my EV that will drop to mere minutes per week over the year.

I drive well over 50,000 miles a year and will work for me with very few (like once per two week period) supercharger hook ups (200 miles of range in 15 minutes for cars).
Of course, if you buy crap ev's (not tesla) you are stuck with the craptastic charging infrastructure for them, which, some chargers work...some don't...As an engineer I've worked up all sorts of data on my normal travel.....
BUT...you only need the charging network if you are on a "road trip". Which...is sort of my every day life, lol

But hey, you can hate on something all you want, doesn't change facts. And for me, as a business owner, makes fiscal and time sense....I couldn't care less what anyone else chooses to drive.

J

Yeah, but when the crooked governments fuel taxes dry up, tax by the mile will be on like Donkey Kong!

 

[Firebird]

I read an article where scientists are trying to make electricity go through the air directly to the motor of the vehicle. It would not need batteries.

EVs should have an alternator to generate its own electricity back to the batteries.

Didn't Nickolai Tesla have that somewhat figured out?

 

[ghost]

I have looked at these a few times. If I read correctly they do not have a Lithium battery so should be cheaper to replace but not as long of life cycle I wouldn’t think.

We have solar, so was thinking the same thing to use around the ranch.

I will be very interested at how this machine performs for you.

Ever hear, when any battery get hot when charging, it is time to replace, or it will go boom.
The acid smells like sufer and eats any metal parts in seconds ?

 

[changed]

I think the media is starting to get it. I saw something on tv the other night where they admitted that charging your car would not be cheaper than filling it with gas.

 

[Old Gray Mare]

On the YouTube sailing channel: Sailing Uma they refitted a fifty year old classic plastic - 1972 Pearson 36. They tore out the dead diesel engine and started out with an electric golf chart engine then up graded to an electric engine designed specifically for sailboats.

 

[Jeff Allen]

Yeah, but when the crooked governments fuel taxes dry up, tax by the mile will be on like Donkey Kong!

Oh yeah, they will always find a way to tax us to death….

J