CRISIS Trump Expresses Doubt on Whether Supreme Court Will Hear Election Case

NCGirl

Veteran Member
This is our future - period.

I would suggest people start watching Holocaust movies - to get a feel - for our future.

This is - exactly what happens when God abandons a country.


The difference is we (still) have guns. If people start being "rounded up" on a somewhat large scale, people will start to fight back if they come for them and their families.

When you have nothing left to lose.... you are finally free to do whatever you always wanted to do.
 
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Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
The Good Lord has always sanctioned self-defense.

Will He find faith when He returns? Starting to look doubtful.

Quite a way to solve the question of "when is the Rapture"? Never. Because most everyone will already be dead.

I responded to that here:
DEEP STATE - Something Rotten in Pennsylvania

as for the rapture - yet another debate that's been held - "WHEN IS THE RAPTURE" better question:

if you're a believer - - - WHY does - "WHEN" - really matter to you? "when" doesn't affect you salvation - so what does it matter in the long run?

you know there was a time when I used to try and talk to people in my Christian circle of friends both in and outside of my church about preparedness. do you know how many REFUSED to put back an extra can of beans because they were going to be "raptured out"?


tell you what friend - I'd MUCH rather be ready for the rapture with a huge pantry than to be surprised by it empty handed.

GOD gave Joseph dreams - he told Noah to build an ark. I guess some people require a hand written note becasue they fail to see the obvious all around them. how much more evidence do we require HE provide us?

 

Hogwrench

Senior Member
Actually, this is what happens when a country so blessed abandons their God and the foundational principles that established it.

We left Him first. We sat on our hands and let debauchery, slaughter, corruption and vice leaven the entire culture and country. We shut ourselves up in our churches and/or went along to get along and keep the offering plates full. So wickedness took root, and infected everything.

And He pleaded with us for decades and we ridiculed and ignored His messengers. We charged them with being intolerant and tyrants seeking to impose a Christian taliban - and we shrunk in fear of the labels and never took a stand when the cost was minimal.

And so now Proverbs Chapter 1:24-32 is being revisited upon us and the cost will be more than we can bear.

Deservedly so.
Could not have said it better. Thanks brother.
:applaud::sal:
 

The Cub

Behold, I am coming soon.
Sorry, but no - we are far gone past that point.

Sorry, but yes.

Hopefully, the SCOTUS will hear the case, and do so judiciously. It is of utmost importance that Trump be seen as abiding by the law. Upon the certain rebellion of the Black Hats (whether triggered by a favorable SCOTUS judgement or by an uprising of the White Hats), then he unloads via the Insurrection Act, even Martial Law. It is a matter of POTUS being impelled into such action vs. even remotely appearing dictatorial.

Even if SCOTUS does hear any of these cases and rules in Trump's favor - number one, half the population will never accept it regardless. So, no matter what happens at this point - the rule of law is dead. We are no longer going to accept anyone in office but our own. That is simple fact.

I repeat: "Unfortunately, the Communists have made it clear that it is either 'their mostly peaceful revolution by cheating' or its 'their mostly violent revolution by war'.

Either way, Martial Law and/or Civil Warfare lies dead ahead."


Secondly, the other fact remains that institutionalized corruption and fraud now occupies local and state elections. No one is ever going to trust them against excepting the Communists who have rigged it to ensure their power in perpetuity. Asa result - few to any of us Deplorables are going to participate in future 'elections', knowing they are pointless - which delights the Communists because they will not have to work as hard to rig elections to ensure they get to do what they want with impunity and under the color of 'law'.

All things being equal, the wholesale and widespread corruption in the election process should precipitate high level remedial action of some sort. I do not know whether it would rise to a Constitutional Amendment or not…..or pressure upon the States (who have legal control of their cities, but historically have failed to exercise such power) to walk away from electronic voting, etc.

But the Communists will not allow for anything remotely close to this occurring. They have a 2030 deadline to meet, and the Great Reset is scheduled to begin in only a few months.


Accordingly, what lies dead ahead is Martial Law and/or Civil War. Most probably, the White Hats vs. the Black Hats + the Blue Helmets.


We are already slaves and dead men walking. Liberty is already gone - and we simply do not realize it yet.

Surrender if you will, and risk the FEMA Camps.

America has been warned. The sand is almost out of the glass. Satan will be allowed his hour.


I and mine are headed to the freedom of the Refuges.

 

All4liberty

Senior Member
once again INVAR - I find you speaking great truths yet refusing to state any reasonable remedy. and ANY remedy is better than NO remedy - by your own statements:
for the love of all that is right and holy STAND AND FIGHT

If the court fails us... it is over. As much as I hate to see a civil war, people are not going to fight back. Once we lose everything, and the desperation to sacrifice all is actually present to fight back, it is too late. Unless you see the power shut off to the big cities for months, no other civil war will take place. Better pray the supreme court comes through.
 

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur

in every way you possibly can. there are LOTS of things we can do - LOOK FOR THEM. there will be a time to refuse to comply - DO IT. there will be a time to refuse to pay taxes - DO IT. there will be a time they will TRY to take your guns . USE THEM don't bury them. will you die doing that - POSSIBLY SO . . .

but here's the message - rite from INVARS own words - THEY'RE GOING TO KILL US ANYWAY

die on your feet in your boots not like a wimpering little bitch
 

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
If the court fails us... it is over. As much as I hate to see a civil war, people are not going to fight back. Once we lose everything, and the desperation to sacrifice all is actually present to fight back, it is too late. Unless you see the power shut off to the big cities for months, no other civil war will take place. Better pray the supreme court comes through.

we should pray - we should also not be surprised IF it doesn't. JER 7:16 and JER 11:14
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
I responded to that here:
DEEP STATE - Something Rotten in Pennsylvania

as for the rapture - yet another debate that's been held - "WHEN IS THE RAPTURE" better question:

if you're a believer - - - WHY does - "WHEN" - really matter to you? "when" doesn't affect you salvation - so what does it matter in the long run?

you know there was a time when I used to try and talk to people in my Christian circle of friends both in and outside of my church about preparedness. do you know how many REFUSED to put back an extra can of beans because they were going to be "raptured out"?


tell you what friend - I'd MUCH rather be ready for the rapture with a huge pantry than to be surprised by it empty handed.

GOD gave Joseph dreams - he told Noah to build an ark. I guess some people require a hand written note becasue they fail to see the obvious all around them. how much more evidence do we require HE provide us?

Well, it doesn't matter so much, I suppose. And it's still good to prepare; even if YOU don't need it, someone else might. Having seven years' worth of food is a tough challenge for ANYONE, though.
 

INVAR

Sword At-The-Ready
I disagree slightly in that if Trump steps aside without a fight, and then on Jan 20th, 2021, the people have to essentially shutdown the inauguration of Joe Biden. If a million people are unable to muster and do that (Wearing BLM and Antifa gear if need be, carrying American Flags and Trump Flags, Gadsden Flags, etc.). They need to be noisy and disrupt the proceedings where they can't continue and they are held in secret somewhere like most of Joe Biden's campaign. The world needs to be shown this will not stand.

And you think the Communists/Deep State Coup masters then in control of the Secret Service and the Alphabets will afford the opportunity for us to do that????

Naiveté is going to get people killed needlessly, and hand the justification for what the demonic Left are promising they are going to do to us, right to them under the color of necessity.

The inauguration itself will likely be behind closed doors with a pre-recorded televised Biden or Harris speech - due to COVID excuse. There will be nothing for a Patriot mob to disrupt.

Protesting in the streets is not our option or mandate.

Protesting from cover when their agents come to force compliance of tyranny IS our mandate.
 

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
Read that again, and again and let that truth sink in amidst all the calls and shouts that we are defeatists who are not 'fighting'.

Cheerleading to your computer screen is not fighting.

you are absolutely correct - "cheerleading" isn't fighting - because AT THIS POINT that is ALL we can do. the day will come that there will be no computer screens to cheer at. at that point we will either cower and go quietly into the darkness or we will fight for our lives.

so the choice is - we can tell each other as much - or- we can encourage that IN THE FUTURE hwen appropriate - or we can sit back and calmly wait to have our asses handed to us - yet once again.

as for me I'll push for what the other side has used quite effectively against us - either ACTUALLY used or THREATENED to use. its obviously worked quite well for them
 

bev

Has No Life - Lives on TB
There are many scripture verses that tell us God will never leave us or forsake us. Here’s one of the best, IMHO, for these times.

Isaiah 41:10-13 ESV
Fear not, for I am with you; be not dismayed, for I am your God; I will strengthen you, I will help you, I will uphold you with my righteous right hand. Behold, all who are incensed against you shall be put to shame and confounded; those who strive against you shall be as nothing and shall perish. You shall seek those who contend with you, but you shall not find them; those who war against you shall be as nothing at all. For I, the Lord your God, hold your right hand; it is I who say to you, “Fear not, I am the one who helps you.”

 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
Problem is, no one here is any more "in the fight" than someone who roots for their favorite sportsball team. I would agree with your sentiment if we were able to affect an outcome, directly. But, all we can do is watch from the sidelines while "our team" ( GOP ) sits on the bench twiddling their thumbs.

I really wasn't referring to the Republicans or our side. I was referring more on a personal level that you never, ever quit. You keep fighting, crawling and scratching and never give in. That mindset is paramount with the things that are coming. Mission orientated and all that. None of us are going to change the system and none of us are going to be able to change an outcome that God has already determined. That is the big picture. Small picture is ourselves and our overall attitude to challenges and trials.
 

INVAR

Sword At-The-Ready
It is of utmost importance that Trump be seen as abiding by the law.

The only "Law" that will be upheld is the "law" perverted by the Left that thus far all of the lower courts have upheld.

"Law" is only what the lawless say it is. Trump acting lawfully has been met with four years of charges that he is in violation of every principle known to man.

then he unloads via the Insurrection Act, even Martial Law.

Not gonna happen. If it were, it would've happened already when Trump had more standing and justification to do it. Doing it now will never be accepted by anyone as anything other than what the Communists have already charged him with doing in terms of refusing to leave office.

Either way, Martial Law and/or Civil Warfare lies dead ahead."

Yes. They have been telling us as much for weeks and months now.

All things being equal, the wholesale and widespread corruption in the election process should precipitate high level remedial action of some sort.

That will require separation and declarations of independence from Unionism and Statism.

I do not know whether it would rise to a Constitutional Amendment or not…..

The Constitution has already been made practically irrelevant. Lip service is all the power it continues to have.

or pressure upon the States (who have legal control of their cities, but historically have failed to exercise such power) to walk away from electronic voting, etc.

Institutionalized corruption by the lawless is never remedied by more 'laws'. They will be ignored, because corruption is how the system now operates and there is only one way that is stopped: removing it wholesale and starting over with something totally different and uncompromised.

Surrender if you will, and risk the FEMA Camps.

I'm not advocating surrender in terms of allowing yourself to be rounded up and imprisoned or acted against. I'm advocating everyone cut their losses in terms of tying their hopes and faith into men and their corrupted systems to save us.

The sand is almost out of the glass. Satan will be allowed his hour.

Agreed. So if this is indeed that time - why continue to advocate overcoming his allowance via the Beast he controls?

Come out from among it - and be separate. And that time is now.
 

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
Protesting from cover when their agents come to force compliance of tyranny IS our mandate.

very refreshing - let us never forget we DO have options other than to go wimpering to the camps.

there was a suggestion made that we should begin to wathch hollocast movies to get ready for what's comming to america. probably not a bad idea . . . here's another idea

go read your Solzhenitsyn

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?

Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”



― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956

 

INVAR

Sword At-The-Ready
There are many scripture verses that tell us God will never leave us or forsake us.

There are many scripture verses that tell us that it is a nation of His people who have left and have forsaken God first, and He left them to the consequences they heaped up for themselves - until they were utterly destroyed.

Read Proverbs chapter 1 and Deuteronomy 28 - and ask yourself how do we square God promising never to leave or forsake us when His Word tells us plainly of curses and utter destruction that will come upon His own people for disobedience and the forsaking of Him?

Can we claim Ancient Israel was forsaken by God and that He left it and abandoned it to being utterly destroyed and lost to all history?

Or did the ten tribes forsake Him and abandon Him first?

Our culture and this country have done similarly and worse than they did - and we were a people forged and rooted in His Word as a precept for our entire foundational structure of culture and law.
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
Horror, for all. Retribution will be pursued. Against us, against them. USA removed from the world stage. A bit melodramatic? Perhaps, but quite possible. Remember that many of us have been saying this election was for all the marbles. The deep state left/RINO is all in. They are not going to let us retreat quietly to our mountain redoubts. No wonder my dreams are nightmares these days.
We all know that even with a Trump win, we have only 4 years before it begins as stated. So we seem to have started early
 

DazedandConfused

Veteran Member
I disagree slightly in that if Trump steps aside without a fight, and then on Jan 20th, 2021, the people have to essentially shutdown the inauguration of Joe Biden. If a million people are unable to muster and do that (Wearing BLM and Antifa gear if need be, carrying American Flags and Trump Flags, Gadsden Flags, etc.). They need to be noisy and disrupt the proceedings where they can't continue and they are held in secret somewhere like most of Joe Biden's campaign. The world needs to be shown this will not stand.

If the people are unable to do it then, I will be willing to say "Every man for himself" as you are essentially saying.
Replace the flags with rifles and then it may make a statement.
 

Coulter

Veteran Member
And so now Proverbs Chapter 1:24-32 is being revisited upon us and the cost will be more than we can bear.

When reading some of the other posts I was reminded of a time coming when God laughs at calamity - looked it up - and found it right in your recommendation.

Not sure - exactly - who he is referring to - but it might be - us.

So I suggest others visit your suggestion.
 

rob0126

Veteran Member
Actually, this is what happens when a country so blessed abandons their God and the foundational principles that established it.

We left Him first. We sat on our hands and let debauchery, slaughter, corruption and vice leaven the entire culture and country. We shut ourselves up in our churches and/or went along to get along and keep the offering plates full. So wickedness took root, and infected everything.

And He pleaded with us for decades and we ridiculed and ignored His messengers. We charged them with being intolerant and tyrants seeking to impose a Christian taliban - and we shrunk in fear of the labels and never took a stand when the cost was minimal.

And so now Proverbs Chapter 1:24-32 is being revisited upon us and the cost will be more than we can bear.

Deservedly so.

Some of us tried to warn for years.

Maybe it was just to get some people to turn to God, and some to get their lives straight before God.
 

rob0126

Veteran Member
...None of us are going to change the system and none of us are going to be able to change an outcome that God has already determined. That is the big picture. Small picture is ourselves and our overall attitude to challenges and trials.

This.
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
I responded to that here:
DEEP STATE - Something Rotten in Pennsylvania

as for the rapture - yet another debate that's been held - "WHEN IS THE RAPTURE" better question:

if you're a believer - - - WHY does - "WHEN" - really matter to you? "when" doesn't affect you salvation - so what does it matter in the long run?

you know there was a time when I used to try and talk to people in my Christian circle of friends both in and outside of my church about preparedness. do you know how many REFUSED to put back an extra can of beans because they were going to be "raptured out"?


tell you what friend - I'd MUCH rather be ready for the rapture with a huge pantry than to be surprised by it empty handed.

GOD gave Joseph dreams - he told Noah to build an ark. I guess some people require a hand written note becasue they fail to see the obvious all around them. how much more evidence do we require HE provide us?

:applaud:
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven

Where are these "refuges" you keep on about? And, please point me to the place God says he will spare believers from tribulation. I know about the beheadings, times of trouble worse than the world has ever seen and no man surviving except for God's intervention. I have missed the place about "refuges" and where those are ( unless you are referring to Petra but that is for the Jews ).
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
in every way you possibly can. there are LOTS of things we can do - LOOK FOR THEM. there will be a time to refuse to comply - DO IT. there will be a time to refuse to pay taxes - DO IT. there will be a time they will TRY to take your guns . USE THEM don't bury them. will you die doing that - POSSIBLY SO . . .

but here's the message - rite from INVARS own words - THEY'RE GOING TO KILL US ANYWAY

die on your feet in your boots not like a wimpering little bitch

Okay... So, everything is in the netherworld of "the future". Not much we can do right now, I take it?

So, why do you keep degrading those of us who are realists?

Am I a "wimpering little bitch" because I don't play the tough guy on my computer, right now? Truthfully, it seems a little insane the way you are encouraging people to "fight" when, by your own admission, there is nothing we can do, right now.

When the time comes that they are knocking on my door, you and everyone on this board and everyone who reads this board have no clue on what my reaction will be. I am tempered enough to not go on rants where everyone can read my intentions and prepare accordingly.

Might be something to think about?

Or not and just keep on ranting and calling people "bitches"...
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
There are many scripture verses that tell us God will never leave us or forsake us. Here’s one of the best, IMHO, for these times.

Isaiah 41:10-13 ESV
Fear not, for I am with you; be not dismayed, for I am your God; I will strengthen you, I will help you, I will uphold you with my righteous right hand. Behold, all who are incensed against you shall be put to shame and confounded; those who strive against you shall be as nothing and shall perish. You shall seek those who contend with you, but you shall not find them; those who war against you shall be as nothing at all. For I, the Lord your God, hold your right hand; it is I who say to you, “Fear not, I am the one who helps you.”


Doesn't mean you won't die.
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
I really wasn't referring to the Republicans or our side. I was referring more on a personal level that you never, ever quit. You keep fighting, crawling and scratching and never give in. That mindset is paramount with the things that are coming. Mission orientated and all that. None of us are going to change the system and none of us are going to be able to change an outcome that God has already determined. That is the big picture. Small picture is ourselves and our overall attitude to challenges and trials.

I misunderstood your post. Thank you for clarifying as, yes, on a personal level, I agree...
 

CELLO

Veteran Member
I refuse to give up hope.

With every Rosary that I pray, the first three Hail Marys are for: 1) For an increase in Faith (faith in Gods Loving Power) 2) For an increase in Hope 3) For an increase in Charity (Love).

Looking back now on these last many decades of my life, I can see my many faults that have lead us to this place in time. I failed to pray enough. I failed to stand up to the evil that was creeping into our government, media, schools and country as they all drove God out.

I now stand here feeling sorrow for my lack of backbone, prayer and caring. Deep sorrow as I see how this will effect my children and grandchildren.

God says that we must repent mightily and sincerely and our country might be saved.
Faith in God Almighty is what is required now, in large doses.
Hope is to be begged for now, that we might not lose our faith in the God who can still save us.
Love is what we must pray that God give our enemies as that is part and parcel of Gods plan; He wishes to save as many souls as He can.

The way out? As for me it is increased prayer. Much more prayer right now. Prayer for Gods will on earth to be done. Prayer that good overcome the evil. Prayer that all be brought to the saving graces of Jesus Christ.
Prayer for Faith, Hope and Love.

I will retain hope that God will help Trump throw out the fraudulent ballots, revealing the truth of the election which is that Trump won in a landslide. It is easy for me sitting here to start to believe the evil ones baloney that Biden won, the disinfo is thrown at us from every form of media. We have to shake off that delusion. And pray more! Pray for Gods Justice.

I will retain hope in The Lord.

If it turns out that it is the will of God that now be the time for His biblical judgement....

Then it is Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn time.
 

Peapicker

Surrender only to Jesus Christ
We, the people here and other Americans are on DEATH GROUND . The sooner we accept that we will be better prepared for what's coming.

Look on the horizon!

The Mission at Rorke's Drift is surrounded by the Zulu. The chanting and forward advance has started. Fix bayonets and prepare to defend or die trying. No quarter given because none will be given.
 

rob0126

Veteran Member
I believe the war will be regional and localized.

Around here, their's not much antifa/blm going on, except a few sign promoters here and there.

Im sure it will spread out from the big cities as time goes by, but for us in the rural towns and countryside, it will give us more time to prep.

Now, for those who will go on the offensive, that's a whole other hockey game.
And this being an online forum, that's all I have to say about that subject.

The ultimate question for the enemy of the free people of america is: Who's bluffing and who's not.
 

The Cub

Behold, I am coming soon.
The only "Law" that will be upheld is the "law" perverted by the Left that thus far all of the lower courts have upheld.

"Law" is only what the lawless say it is. Trump acting lawfully has been met with four years of charges that he is in violation of every principle known to man.


Every branch of the government has been corrupted. Statutory law tainted by weaponized ambiguity, delegation of authority to bureaucrats, legislation from the bench; crooked judgements, and more.

So what would you advise as the next step? Ft. Sumpter 2.0.…NOW…..before all legal avenues are exhausted AND before the any court, including the court of public opinion has seen the evidence. I mean all of the evidence that has been garnered and will be presented. Only a fraction has been made public, thus far.

Sure, I have seen enough for me; but I recognize that many others are ignorant of the scope and magnitude of what has transpired. Optics are everything at this stage.

It is far wiser to play the game a just bit longer. Present all of the evidence for all the world to see.
If Trump fails to prevail in SCOTUS, or via the respective State Houses, the people of America and of the world will have viewed overwhelming evidence of the theft and the failure of a corrupt government to act upon it. (I am reminded of a document that begins: “When in the course of human events…”) This will succeed in obtaining the support of more Americans….. …how many more, dunno….but more than pulling the trigger now.

What some would previously view as dictatorial acts by Trump, will subsequently be viewed by many of them as justified.

Trump has no intention of walking away without a fight. He executed an EO in Dec 2017 and another in Sept 2018, and declared National Emergencies for a reason. What are the implications and how do they relate to the instant case….and that of Obamagate? Yes, I believe the unsealed indictments will be unsealed, very soon. Team Trump has spent just over 3 years investigating these matters….and Trump ain’t the kind of dude to walk away from a fight. It will happen.

He canned Esper for a reason. Miller provided a carefully worded warning to the Black Hats for a reason. The troops are being called home for a reason (above satisfying campaign promises). Troops have been stationed along the US and British Colombia border, as well as the US and Mexico border for a reason. What is the significance of Trump obtaining the CIA servers from Germany? Is it true that DHS had official mail in ballots watermarked with electronic code visible under infrared?

Yes, we are running out of runway…..but it is important to dance the dance just a bit longer for reasons stated above.


Not gonna happen. If it were, it would've happened already when Trump had more standing and justification to do it. Doing it now will never be accepted by anyone as anything other than what the Communists have already charged him with doing in terms of refusing to leave office.


The Communists were baiting Trump into acting impulsively to paint him as dictatorial prior to the election. Trump was wise and played it cool.

With the first open State to flip…..and some or all will…..either via SCOTUS and/or existing votes or via votes of the State Legislatures. The ANTIFA and BLM goons will arise again.

Should that not happen, Trump will unseal the indictments outstanding re: Obamagate, et al, and then, the goons will arise.

Or alternatively, the White Hats begin to rally triggering the goons to arise.

And then there is the 12th amendment, which if implemented should go Trump’s way. Make no mistake about it, success via the 12th will trigger the Soros goons.

POTUS ain’t going anywhere without a fight.

There are several avenues to triggering the Insurrection Act.

… and Martial Law and/or Civil War is coming.


That will require separation and declarations of independence from Unionism and Statism.

Whatever you are talking about has never been done in respect of the previous 33 amendments to the Constitution and it is not required now. I do not expect any amendment to be forthcoming prior to civil uprisings. I made that clear, I thought.


Institutionalized corruption by the lawless is never remedied by more 'laws'. They will be ignored, because corruption is how the system now operates and there is only one way that is stopped: removing it wholesale and starting over with something totally different and uncompromised.


I provided what was effectively an rhetorical statement intentionally leading into the next statement(s).

I repeat:

“All things being equal, the wholesale and widespread corruption in the election process should precipitate high level remedial action of some sort. I do not know whether it would rise to a Constitutional Amendment or not…..or pressure upon the States (who have legal control of their cities, but historically have failed to exercise such power) to walk away from electronic voting, etc.

But the Communists will not allow for anything remotely close to this occurring. They have a 2030 deadline to meet, and the Great Reset is scheduled to begin in only a few months.
https://www.timebomb2000.com/xf/index.php?threads/the-great-reset.586922/

Accordingly, what lies dead ahead is Martial Law and/or Civil War. Most probably, the White Hats vs. the Black Hats + the Blue Helmets
.”


I'm not advocating surrender in terms of allowing yourself to be rounded up and imprisoned or acted against. I'm advocating everyone cut their losses in terms of tying their hopes and faith into men and their corrupted systems to save us
.

Dance the dance a bit longer, for reasons stated above. Keep your powder dry.

I expect the following: (1) for Trump to prevail in the election, and (2) for a whole bunch of Communists to be indicted but not convicted.

In any event and very soon, we will have the following choices, only:

1. Live fully-protected at the Refuges, and await the 2nd coming of Jesus in glory, or
2. Suffer at the extermination camps (in the USA, known as FEMA Camps), or
3. Suffer during the Day of the Lord and the forthcoming Comet of Chastisement/3 Days of Darkness.




Agreed. So if this is indeed that time - why continue to advocate overcoming his allowance via the Beast he controls?

Come out from among it - and be separate. And that time is now.


I and mine are headed to the freedom of the Refuges.
https://www.timebomb2000.com/xf/index.php?threads/the-signs-to-flee-to-the-refuges.562859/

Until then, I want to see the Black Hats in cuffs…..I should not have to delineate the names. I do not care that they will never be convicted. I want to see them in cuffs before we leave for the refuges.
 

The Cub

Behold, I am coming soon.
Where are these "refuges" you keep on about? And, please point me to the place God says he will spare believers from tribulation. I know about the beheadings, times of trouble worse than the world has ever seen and no man surviving except for God's intervention. I have missed the place about "refuges" and where those are ( unless you are referring to Petra but that is for the Jews ).

Discussed here. Be sure and read the additional info, including Biblical citations at the links included therein:

BTW, December 21 is the feast day of Micah, the prophet. After you have studied the foregoing, take a look at the following and the significance of Dec 21, 2020:
 

Elza

Veteran Member
as for me I'll push for what the other side has used quite effectively against us - either ACTUALLY used or THREATENED to use. its obviously worked quite well for them
Yes, but they have TPTB backing them up. If Jo/Ho gets in we will be fighting the state, fed, cops, and the brown shirts. It will be far harder for us than it is for them.
 

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
Yes, but they have TPTB backing them up. If Jo/Ho gets in we will be fighting the state, fed, cops, and the brown shirts. It will be far harder for us than it is for them.

yes it will - so what should we do? lay down and cooperate in our own destruction?
 

The Cub

Behold, I am coming soon.
Addil info

Interview with Gen Flynn and Gen McInerney re: the Coup and Trump Counter Coup

and then there is this:

US Justice Department amends federal execution rules to allow death by hanging, electric chair, gas chamber & FIRING SQUAD
28 Nov, 2020
www.rt.com/usa/508070-doj-executions-firing-squad/
 
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Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
Okay... So, everything is in the netherworld of "the future". Not much we can do right now, I take it?

So, why do you keep degrading those of us who are realists?

Am I a "wimpering little bitch" because I don't play the tough guy on my computer, right now? Truthfully, it seems a little insane the way you are encouraging people to "fight" when, by your own admission, there is nothing we can do, right now.

When the time comes that they are knocking on my door, you and everyone on this board and everyone who reads this board have no clue on what my reaction will be. I am tempered enough to not go on rants where everyone can read my intentions and prepare accordingly.

Might be something to think about?

Or not and just keep on ranting and calling people "bitches"...

that's not the intent at all - I see people here ready to give up. I see people with no hope. I see people here that say I WILL NOT - that is what I'm railing against. becasue if WE WONT then WHO WILL?

I believe this: CHAT - Just a few things to ponder on a slow Sunday. expresses the intent of my postings much better than what I've written above. I hope you will read that as well as the OP on that thread.

guaranteed if there wasn't the smell of defeatism here I - as well as others - wouldn't be ranting about it. but as always - YMMV
 
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medic38572

TB Fanatic
Actually, this is what happens when a country so blessed abandons their God and the foundational principles that established it.

We left Him first. We sat on our hands and let debauchery, slaughter, corruption and vice leaven the entire culture and country. We shut ourselves up in our churches and/or went along to get along and keep the offering plates full. So wickedness took root, and infected everything.

And He pleaded with us for decades and we ridiculed and ignored His messengers. We charged them with being intolerant and tyrants seeking to impose a Christian taliban - and we shrunk in fear of the labels and never took a stand when the cost was minimal.

And so now Proverbs Chapter 1:24-32 is being revisited upon us and the cost will be more than we can bear.

Deservedly so.

If your going to post scripture for everyone to look up and read because you cannot post more than two to the post then please include verse 33 as well because that is the KEY verse to getting thru.

Pro 1:33 “But whoever listens to me dwells safely, And is at ease from the dread of evil.”
 
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