CRISIS Trump Expresses Doubt on Whether Supreme Court Will Hear Election Case

INVAR

Sword At-The-Ready
So what would you advise as the next step? Ft. Sumpter 2.0.…NOW…..before all legal avenues are exhausted AND before the any court, including the court of public opinion has seen the evidence. I mean all of the evidence that has been garnered and will be presented. Only a fraction has been made public, thus far.

All Evidence is being wiped and destroyed as we type: Georgia judge issues ’emergency order’ to freeze all Dominion machines… Judge reverses order one hour later…

Judge reversed order based on Defendants’ claim that GA Counties control voting machines.
Machines are owned by State & @GaSecofState administers state laws on elections.
Why are GA officials determined to wipe these machines clean by resetting them?


Optics are everything at this stage.

All 'optics' are under the direction, control and narratives of the Media, Big Tech and the Democrats. Nothing we do or do not do will be seen as anything but whatever they say it means. Dare to provide evidence contrary to the narrative, it will be censored and you will be deplatformed. Have we learned nothing in the last 8 weeks?

It is far wiser to play the game a just bit longer. Present all of the evidence for all the world to see.

As I linked, the 'evidence' of massive fraud is being destroyed. The ONLY evidence that will be heard and seen and allowed to be heard and seen, is what the Communist Cabal and their enablers say it is.

Even so, it does not matter what evidence there is anymore. The Communists will do as they please, regardless. The lawless are not intimidated by the law, and not constrained by the law. They make theirs up as they go, and their propagandists fuel the populace to those narratives.

I believe the unsealed indictments will be unsealed, very soon.

Been hearing that fake bullshit for four years. Not a single one of those empty, bullshit promises has happened. NOT A ONE. And it's pathetic that anyone is hanging onto hope of what is clearly made-up string-you-along bullshit.

Of course some of us were wise to that scam the moment the words "The Clinton's suffered enough" were uttered.

Whatever you are talking about has never been done in respect of the previous 33 amendments to the Constitution

The Constitution has been rendered irrelevant by those conducting this reset. The rule of law is dead and currently being revised and rewritten for arbitrary edicts and orders from those who have no use for the Constitution and see the country as an evil needing to be punished, purged and remade.
 

The Cub

Behold, I am coming soon.

All Evidence is being wiped and destroyed as we type: Georgia judge issues ’emergency order’ to freeze all Dominion machines… Judge reverses order one hour later…

Judge reversed order based on Defendants’ claim that GA Counties control voting machines.
Machines are owned by State & @GaSecofState administers state laws on elections.
Why are GA officials determined to wipe these machines clean by resetting them?


Wrong. ALL evidence is NOT being destroyed as we type. If you disagree, then PROVE IT.

I saw the info on Georgia. It is obvious to me….yet to be declared to be so, by a judge (most likely appellate or even SCOTUS vs. any district judge) that the election in Georgia is null and void, as Raffenbeger acted ultra vires, and the election was conducted outside of the State law. Refer to Wood’s filing. Are you familiar with his filing? Or would you prefer to do something else? What would that be?

And what of the other States in question? And you would conclude that all evidence in the other States has been destroyed because some or all of the machines in Georgia are in the process of being wiped clean?

I also saw that the contents of the CIA servers are under military control and will not be released except in a SCOTUS hearing. I expect that they will yield evidence about how, when, by how much and by whom the votes were altered in as many as all 50 States via the crooked software.


All 'optics' are under the direction, control and narratives of the Media, Big Tech and the Democrats.

Wrong. We are talking about public filings in courts of law. And the Alt social media (ex Twitter, Google and Youtube) is alive and well. Are we not participating on such a platform, now? You throw the word ‘all’ around recklessly.

I repeat: Optics are everything at this stage. The Court of Public Opinion must see the evidence.

You would have Trump be cast successfully and unnecessarily in the minds of too many as a tyrant. There is nothing to lose by remaining calm and running the gamut during the next couple of weeks.


Nothing we do or do not do will be seen as anything but whatever they say it means. Dare to provide evidence contrary to the narrative, it will be censored and you will be deplatformed. Have we learned nothing in the last 8 weeks?


Transmission will be impaired by the ones mentioned above, yes.

This is no time to panic. I am still awaiting some recommendation from you as what Trump should do? Or what we should do?

I know very well where I and mine will be next year at this time.

It is far wiser to play the game a just bit longer. Present all of the evidence for all the world to see.


As I linked, the 'evidence' of massive fraud is being destroyed. The ONLY evidence that will be heard and seen and allowed to be heard and seen, is what the Communist Cabal and their enablers say it is.

Even so, it does not matter what evidence there is anymore. The Communists will do as they please, regardless. The lawless are not intimidated by the law, and not constrained by the law. They make theirs up as they go, and their propagandists fuel the populace to those narratives.


See my comments above. And what do you propose to do besides panic type on a message board?


Been hearing that fake bullshit for four years. Not a single one of those empty, bullshit promises has happened. NOT A ONE. And it's pathetic that anyone is hanging onto hope of what is clearly made-up string-you-along bullshit.


Wrong again. You know very well that one …admittedly, only one….of many has been unsealed and acted upon. I do not have a subscription to the PACER software. I am told that the many unsealed indictments exist. I wish I could access the software and verify for myself. Have you attempted to do so? Or is this another blanket statement?

Step back from the keyboard and WATCH. WATCH what happens. Let’s resume this discussion in 90 days.



Of course some of us were wise to that scam the moment the words "The Clinton's suffered enough" were uttered.

Wise? And you would do what? What action beside posting nonsense on a message board would you recommend?

And whatever you come up with….can it not wait a few more weeks?



The Constitution has been rendered irrelevant by those conducting this reset. The rule of law is dead and currently being revised and rewritten for arbitrary edicts and orders from those who have no use for the Constitution and see the country as an evil needing to be punished, purged and remade.


Wrong again.
Corrected: The Constitution WILL BE rendered irrelevant by those conducting this reset.

Refer to my previous post about the need for optics and a certain document.

Make no mistake about it, the Communists will be allowed to overrun America regardless of evidence and sealed indictments. I repeat: I simply want to see the Black Hats in cuffs before we flee to the Refuges at the appropriate time.

Have a good day.
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
that's not the intent at all - I see people here ready to give up. I see people with no hope. I see people here that say I WILL NOT - that is what I'm railing against. becasue if WE WONT then WHO WILL?

I believe this: CHAT - Just a few things to ponder on a slow Sunday. expresses the intent of my postings much better than what I've written above. I hope you will read that as well as the OP on that thread.

guaranteed if there wasn't the smell of defeatism here I - as well as others - wouldn't be ranting about it. but as always - YMMV

Okay...

While I might not agree with the tactics, I understand them.
 

The Cub

Behold, I am coming soon.
BREAKING GEORGIA UPDATE: Judge Issues Restraining Order for 10 Days Preventing Defendants from Destroying or Erasing Dominion Voting Machines


At 10:10 PM on Sunday night Judge Timothy Batten again issued a temporary restraining order for 10 days against the destruction of evidence.

 

vestige

Deceased
BREAKING GEORGIA UPDATE: Judge Issues Restraining Order for 10 Days Preventing Defendants from Destroying or Erasing Dominion Voting Machines


At 10:10 PM on Sunday night Judge Timothy Batten again issued a temporary restraining order for 10 days against the destruction of evidence.

Why only 10 days?
 

vestige

Deceased

The Cub

Behold, I am coming soon.
Why only 10 days?

Beats me.....According to Lin Wood, the Judge issued the TRO, and then was told that he could not do so as the machines were under the control of the Counties (???). Thereupon, he rescinded the order; was subsequently advised that he could issue the TRO; and then, did so again.
 

INVAR

Sword At-The-Ready
Wrong. ALL evidence is NOT being destroyed as we type. If you disagree, then PROVE IT.

Really? You might want to go and re-read the article to the link you posted. Why do you think the judge issued the order? It tells you why right there in the article.

There's your proof.

We are talking about public filings in courts of law.

Communists do not give two whits about any ruling a court makes that they disagree with. The "law" is irrelevant. Especially when the "law" is ignored and refused to be enforced, while other 'laws' that benefit the tyrants ARE enforced.

There is nothing to lose by remaining calm and running the gamut during the next couple of weeks.

We've been told that ad nauseum for the last 4 years in regards to overt sedition and criminality. No joy.

Bewilderment is coming for all those who have their faith firmly placed in 'the system'.

I pray I am wrong about that - but judging the fruits of the enemy by what they are saying and doing - I'd say my discernment is sadly likely.

I am still awaiting some recommendation from you as what Trump should do? Or what we should do?

I have no advice for Trump that would matter to him, not that he would listen to anyone of my stature to begin with.

As to what 'we' on this board should do - I have been very clear on that: know what time it is and be ready to do what must be done if you want to survive. Mindset is the first thing to get right - or bewilderment and shock will render you helpless.

Present all of the evidence for all the world to see.

The only tangible benefit of that; is the justification to do what must be done to refuse and resist, as all governmental authority usurped is wholly illegitimate. In actuality, it has been for some time. This government is unfit to rule a free people who are governed by God and exercise liberty.

And what do you propose to do besides panic type on a message board?

Survive.

I am told that the many unsealed indictments exist. I wish I could access the software and verify for myself. Have you attempted to do so? Or is this another blanket statement?

Step back from the keyboard and WATCH. WATCH what happens. Let’s resume this discussion in 90 days.

No thanks. Your Q pals have been promising this shit for 4 years - no joy. They too kept stringing people along "just wait - let's talk again in 6 weeks.... next year..... in 2020 - you will see all the indictments will rain down and the swamp will be drained... blah, blah, blah" BULLSHIT! It was all a ruse that so many fell for.

And you would do what? What action beside posting nonsense on a message board would you recommend?

I did not make the promise to "lock her up" (meaning to hold her to account for abject criminality) and then renege on it. Trump did. Right then and there - was your sign.

How many deep-state lackeys did he have in his cabinet that he put in there to run interference for the Democrats??

You remember his pledge to "only hire the best people"???

And whatever you come up with….can it not wait a few more weeks?

Yeah, and then what? If Trump concedes and steps aside - your Q pals are going to be promising endlessly, plans for a military coup to right the wrongs of 2020 - and we just need to sit tight, wait and be patient - because rescue is coming.... along with more sealed secret indictments that we never see any fruits of.

I simply want to see the Black Hats in cuffs before we flee to the Refuges at the appropriate time.
And who is going to do that? Biden's DOJ? The FBI? The CIA? The Pentagon Chiefs? The Courts and SCOTUS? (where is their army by the way?) Hint: those will be virtually the same cabal in office now that helped try and impeach Trump and refuse to follow his orders.

There's dreaming and hoping and then there is reality.

And the fruits speak.
 

bassgirl

Veteran Member
We can fight some, but in the end it wont matter much. Stop spending money. The less you spend the less taxes they get. If u need a big item get it now, before Jan 20. Then stop spending.

Buy used if you can, including cars. Less tax money.

Stop traveling. Probably will not be safe to go much further than red zones anyway. Find things to do locally. If you live in a blue state MOVE. Don’t support them any longer.

In the end its our choice. Stop feeding the machine in anyway you can and encourage family and friends to do the same. Don’t watch their TV programs, don’t by concert tickets or even brand name musicians music. Find the obscure (and prob better music)

There are many things we can do. It might be small, and seem weak, it is. But at least I am doing something, what I can with what I have. Maybe if 70 million of us all did SOMETHiNG it might have an impact.

If nothing else, Ill at least know I no longer participated in the sham and BS.

They might slap each other on the back and think whoo boy we did it! But they can only do this with your tax money.
 

INVAR

Sword At-The-Ready
We can fight some, but in the end it wont matter much. Stop spending money. The less you spend the less taxes they get.

Those are good ideas any of us can implement. My financial footprint is substantially shrunken both by my hand and circumstances.

However, at this stage - absolute power is achieved, and money is no more the means to the end they will have accomplished.

We now live in a corruptocracy that creates money out of thin air, destroys small business and industry to empower mega-monopolistic behemoths that they are now allied with to erase liberty and impoverish targets while their rabid foam-at-the-mouth bloodthirsty demons tell us that they are simply going to take and confiscate from those of us who need to be punished for being white and not being them.

Despite that current reality - refuse to comply. Ignore them. Defy them. Fight them.

When they come to impose their will by force - do what must be done. Or perish.
 

compchyk

The Computer Chyck
We can fight some, but in the end it wont matter much. Stop spending money. The less you spend the less taxes they get. If u need a big item get it now, before Jan 20. Then stop spending.

Buy used if you can, including cars. Less tax money.

Stop traveling. Probably will not be safe to go much further than red zones anyway. Find things to do locally. If you live in a blue state MOVE. Don’t support them any longer.

In the end its our choice. Stop feeding the machine in anyway you can and encourage family and friends to do the same. Don’t watch their TV programs, don’t by concert tickets or even brand name musicians music. Find the obscure (and prob better music)

There are many things we can do. It might be small, and seem weak, it is. But at least I am doing something, what I can with what I have. Maybe if 70 million of us all did SOMETHiNG it might have an impact.

If nothing else, Ill at least know I no longer participated in the sham and BS.

They might slap each other on the back and think whoo boy we did it! But they can only do this with your tax money.

I've been doing exactly this for the past 10 years
 

wvstuck

Only worry about what you can control!
I disagree slightly in that if Trump steps aside without a fight, and then on Jan 20th, 2021, the people have to essentially shutdown the inauguration of Joe Biden. If a million people are unable to muster and do that (Wearing BLM and Antifa gear if need be, carrying American Flags and Trump Flags, Gadsden Flags, etc.). They need to be noisy and disrupt the proceedings where they can't continue and they are held in secret somewhere like most of Joe Biden's campaign. The world needs to be shown this will not stand.

If the people are unable to do it then, I will be willing to say "Every man for himself" as you are essentially saying.
It will never happen. The conservatives are talking but not acting, they couldn't even cancel Facebook, the MSM and other social media. They need to be comfortable and make up excuses like "I can't leave my family is there", "but I just watch what I like" and other excuses.

I'm prepared to hear the backlash once again. But funding the beast is part of what is wrong. If conservatives would pull their money, close their social media accounts and withdrawal from the system for even a short while the voice would be heard loud and clear. The socialists just laugh at the conversations about a civil war, they still have your attention and they know you can't stand to be uncomfortable.

If even half would participate I'd be reassured, but it won't happen. If we can't stop feeding the beast over lame excuses, do you really believe people are going to the woods to risk life and limb... Yeah me either.
 

Trivium Pursuit

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Addil info

Interview with Gen Flynn and Gen McInerney re: the Coup and Trump Counter Coup

and then there is this:

US Justice Department amends federal execution rules to allow death by hanging, electric chair, gas chamber & FIRING SQUAD
28 Nov, 2020
www.rt.com/usa/508070-doj-executions-firing-squad/
What Cub has said in general, and this, in particular, tells me that Trump et al really have some actions up their sleeve.
Finally, my thought as soon as I saw this headline was back to Sun Tzu: "When you are strong, appear weak."
 

Hogwrench

Senior Member
Yes, but they have TPTB backing them up. If Jo/Ho gets in we will be fighting the state, fed, cops, and the brown shirts. It will be far harder for us than it is for them.
You mean like when we took on the strongest military in the world at the time and and beat them? Patriots rose up then and defeated tyranny. We can do it again. It will be so ugly with modern weapons. And so difficult. But even more important.
 

Hogwrench

Senior Member
And what do you propose to do besides panic type on a message board?
You have no idea what’s going on behind the scenes. Just because you are not actively doing something doesn’t mean others are not. And that’s all I’m going to say about that.
 

doctor_fungcool

TB Fanatic
As I have said, you cannot stop lawlessness via civil means. This was a velvet coup, and the proponents and orchestrators of it - have told us what they plan to do.

So, with history as hindsight - and if you are a Jew in 1940 Nazi Germany and you know what they are planning to do to you and yours... what do you do?

Will you 'get on the trains for work going East' because it's the law"?

Do you flee?

Do you refuse to comply and resist - which gives them the excuse to do what they are going to do anyway?

There is no saving us from where we have been taken. The demographics themselves and the numbers of people among us that hate our very existence make a bloodbath a certainty.

For those that live in a state that has Marxist tendencies.......VOTE WITH YOUR FEET (get the hell out)......I am planning on leaving Michigan.
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
Do you think that rather than registering a complaint with him they voiced a threat? Perhaps not to him but a child or grandchild?

It is not as if they are above threatening.

Doesn't make much sense. He's already survived over 100 separate assassination attempts. But suddenly "we're gonna do nasty things to your grandkids" balks him? The same security force that covers him could likely cover them.
 

doctor_fungcool

TB Fanatic
Again, sounds great, but one tainted election turns it into Detroit.

Yes it's a possibility....however.....you must realize that Michigan will take years to become economically viable due to these lockdowns. Plus the welfare costs will saddle this state with huge debt.....meaning higher taxes and less services.
Indiana is not locked down as Michigan is....if push
comes shove....moving may become a fact of life here in CONUS.


NOTE: My town has lots of empty buildings...these buildings housed business that were viable in the past....NO MORE. The whole state could face (IS IN)a depression of BIBLICAL PROPORTIONS.
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Warthog

Black Out
Most of you sound very hopeless! Maybe, just maybe the judges in federal district courts are speeding rejection of Trump’s lawsuits in order to get them to SCOTUS more quickly? All that needs to be proven is foreign interference and Trumps Executive Order from 2018 kicks in and the election is over!!!!!!! And of course PRAYERS. We must pray, because this is now more spiritual than ever before!!!
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
Most of you sound very hopeless! Maybe, just maybe the judges in federal district courts are speeding rejection of Trump’s lawsuits in order to get them to SCOTUS more quickly? All that needs to be proven is foreign interference and Trumps Executive Order from 2018 kicks in and the election is over!!!!!!! And of course PRAYERS. We must pray, because this is now more spiritual than ever before!!!

Not gonna lie, man, it's not looking good. I'm in until Trump's out--and the sheer bulk of prophecy that says Trump's getting back in helps--but I know there's a possibility of false prophets being outed. The Red Sea is one big-ass body of water, after all.
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
Yes it's a possibility....however.....you must realize that Michigan will take years to become economically viable due to these lockdowns. Plus the welfare costs will saddle this state with huge debt.....meaning higher taxes and less services.
Indiana is not locked down as Michigan is....if push
comes shove....moving may become a fact of life here in CONUS.


NOTE: My town has lots of empty buildings...these buildings housed business that were viable in the past....NO MORE. The whole state could face (IS IN)a depression of BIBLICAL PROPORTIONS.
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I follow. I've been tempted myself. My family's all here in SW lower MI, but we're all maybe 15, 20 miles from Indiana. They're all getting older, and settled into their "forever homes," so to speak. And I certainly don't like the notion of leaving them to face this alone.
 

wvstuck

Only worry about what you can control!
The government will never put itself on trial and find itself guilty. There is a very discernable difference between defeatism and realism.

Have solid plans for more than one direction, the enemy may not follow your one and only plan, then you are left trying to regroup while having your ass handed to you! Make backup plans for your backup plans.

If SCOTUS changes the election at this point, I'd be very surprised. Time is the enemy!
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
For those that live in a state that has Marxist tendencies.......VOTE WITH YOUR FEET (get the hell out)......I am planning on leaving Michigan.

You don’t have to leave Michigan, just get out of the lower peninsula. In the U.P. there is still plenty of low population density and semi-wilderness areas to locate to. I live in a township that has a size of 160 square miles with a population less than 1000 people. When TSHTF of almost any kinds you want to be where everyone else isn’t. One might not be able to run from the encroachment of communism/globalism but it’s still possible to hide and pretty much be left alone.
 
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