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marsh

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What Coronavirus Symptoms Look Like, Day By Day
•Mar 18, 2020

Science Insider

After being exposed to the virus that causes COVID-19, it can take as few as two and as many as 14 days for symptoms to develop. Cases range from mild to critical. The average timeline from the first symptom to recovery is about 17 days, but some cases are fatal. Here's what it looks like to develop COVID-19, day by day.
 

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New York Doctor Reports From Front Lines Of Coronavirus Crisis: ‘It Does Not Spare Anyone’ | TODAY
•Mar 25, 2020


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Dr. Craig Spencer, who contracted Ebola while fighting its outbreak in Africa, is now an emergency room doctor in New York City. He tells TODAY that “it’s hard to find patients who are not coronavirus” and says they are young as well as old: “It does not spare anyone.” He warns: “Soon hospitals are going to be overwhelmed.”

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In 2015, Dr. Spencer was criticized by Gov. Andrew Cuomo, among others, after he arrived back in NYC from working with Ebola patients in Guinea. Instead of self-isolating himself, he went around the city on the subway, went bowling, and ate at restaurants.He did that despite feeling fatigue, a symptom of Ebola...
 

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Italian Doctor on What Medications NOT to Take for Coronavirus (COVID-19)
•Mar 18, 2020


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We speak to an Italian doctor on the frontlines of the Coronavirus pandemic, Dr. Giovanni Guaraldi. He discusses the current situation in Italy, which has become the epicentre of the Coronavirus outbreak, his opinions on Britain’s response to Coronavirus, how bad it will get in Britain, his medical advice on what medications people should avoid if they have Coronavirus, which medications help ease the symptoms of the virus, how to stop the spread of COVID-19 and more!
 

Steve308

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And then one day she disappeared. Edit, sorry, didn't see the Steve308. Then one day he disappeared. Oh, whatever.

No insult taken. And this guard base is a maintenance battalion, so not too worried about their ninjas getting me and the goldendoodle

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marsh

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MYPILLOW ANNOUNCES THEY ARE MANUFACTURING FACE MASKS FOR HOSPITALS ACROSS THE COUNTRY
BY: DAVID CARON

ON: MARCH 24, 2020

With the United States facing a shortage of face masks right now while trying to combat the Coronavirus, MyPillow’s founder Mike Lindell has pledged to step up and help solve the problem. In a tweet released earlier, they announced that they are “now manufacturing face masks for hospitals across the country!”

MyPillow

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https://twitter.com/MyPillowUSA/status/1242539912626397184

MyPillow is excited to announce that we are now manufacturing face masks for hospitals across the country!

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Lindell had expected to make the announcement this morning during Fox News’ American Newsroom but that was delayed until tomorrow morning.


Mike Lindell

@realMikeLindell

https://twitter.com/realMikeLindell/status/1242453309933453319

I’ll be on @FoxNews today at 10:50 a.m. CT with @edhenry sharing an important announcement related to the COVID-19 pandemic. Tune in to hear what I have to say!
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7:08 AM - Mar 24, 2020
Ironically, a Democrat strategist Jesse Lifson had sarcastically tweeted earlier today, “Serious question. The ‘My Pillow Guy’ makes about 30 million pillows per year. I know he also makes towels. Does he make masks?” He will be in for a surprise when he hears the news.

Jesse D. Lifson@DoYouEvenLIf

https://twitter.com/DoYouEvenLIf/status/1242552719010861061

Serious question.

The “My Pillow Guy” makes about 30 million pillows per year. I know he also makes towels.

Does he make masks?

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marsh

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Mitch McConnell: Minimal Differences Between This Relief Package, Original Democrats Blocked

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) suggested during a speech on the Senate floor on Wednesday that the latest version of the economic relief package is minimally different from the original measure Democrats rejected and added that he will “leave it to others to compare” the two and “determine whether the last few changes really required or merited three days of delay.”

McConnell said during his floor speech that he originally emphasized four “urgent priorities” for Senate legislation to help the nation get through the crisis. Those included direct financial assistance to the American people, aid to small businesses to keep paychecks flowing, and measures to both stabilize key industries to prevent mass layoffs and flood more recourses into the “frontline healthcare battle itself.”

One week ago, McConnell said, the Senate GOP laid out a proposal that “tackled each of these emergency missions” and noted that the proposals “remain the central building blocks” of the legislation they have today.

McConnell said, noting the creation of the bipartisan working groups that worked “literally around the clock” to make the bill even stronger:
Our nation needed us to go big and go fast and they did. The created policies our chairman crafted in just a couple of days time remain the central building blocks of the proposal we will pass today. But Republicans knew the nation had no time — no time — for conventional political gamesmanship.
By Sunday, the majority leader said, they had a bill from “both sides.”

“Republicans and Democrats had worked together to dramatically strengthen and rework unemployment insurance during this crisis. We worked together to ensure lower-income families could receive the full cash assistance and on and on,” he said, again hinting that the bill they will vote on is not much different than the original measure that Democrats rejected days ago.

Instead, Democrats opted to pursuit radical legislation covering a flurry of progressive policy agendas unrelated to the crisis at hand.

“Mr. President, I’ll leave it to others to compare the bipartisan Sunday bill to the final version we will pass today and determine whether the last few changes really required or merited three days of delay — three days of delay in the face of this worsening crisis,” he emphasized.

Despite the partisan turmoil over the last few days, McConnell said the Senate will pass the historic relief package today:
Struggling Americans are going to go to their mailboxes and find four-figure checks to help with their bills. Why? Because the Senate stepped up. Many American families who poured everything into a restaurant or a shop or a small manufacturer are going to keep making payroll and keep their businesses alive, because this Senate stepped up.
Hundreds of thousands of workers in key sectors, who might well have been laid off through no fault of their own, will instead get to keep their job and continue their career, because this Senate stepped up. And for the health care heroes who leave their own sleeping children and drive to the hospital for an all night shift, who spend hour after hour healing the sick, comforting strangers and literally battling this disease, there will be more masks in their supply closets, more funding for their hospitals, and soon more new treatments to administer to their patients, because this senate stepped up.
The legislation itself cannot defeat the crisis, McConnell stressed, but it can provide relief to Americans, who will ultimately beat the virus.

“No this fight is not going to be won or lost in Washington,” he added. “It’s the American people who will beat this virus.”
 

Squid

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Ok based on my local central Ohio experience in the last 2 days. Americans get a D+ on the whole social distancing thing.

Made a run yesterday to get takeout dinner. Seem’s a lot more traffic than expected for so many not working.

When out I seem to be in a small category that has any PPE, and yes I realize supply issue’s but when I was buying mostly the only other people buying were Asians. I wonder how many were for personal stock, how many were for future selling on E-Bay and how many were shipped to China.

We have been walking a local trail that is usually rarely used. Tonight it was full of families with kids just running wild, with some people sitting together on bench’s talking. Also saw a neighbor with 3 cars (2 extra mini vans) and a yard full of kids playing together.

Based on this and the panic move by people from NY to Florida this will be worse than it needs to be. The general cluelessness of most Americans and the lack of common sense means that idiots will get sick from Their Own decisions and based on history these idiots will want to blame someone else.

Sigh I am bumping my US infection peak WAG a week ( I was hoping 7-10 days but now think the peak might go out 16-20) because I grossly underestimated the idiot factor.
 

marsh

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WATCH — Marsha Blackburn: End the Control the ‘Madmen in Beijing’ Have over America’s Drug Industry

Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN) called on the United States to rebuild its domestic pharmaceutical manufacturing capacity in order to end China’s monopoly on the drugs Americans rely on.

“I encourage my colleagues to support the bipartisan Securing America’s Medicine Cabinet Act,” Blackburn said in a floor speech on Wednesday, as the Senate discussed the coronavirus relief bill.

Blackburn opened her remarks by acknowledging the “gross malfeasance” of China’s communist regime in handling the coronavirus pandemic.

“After we acknowledge Beijing’s gross malfeasance,” Blackburn said, “we’re going to adjust the way we think about China in the context of the economy, of our national defense, technology, human rights, and pharmaceutical manufacturing.”
She continued:
When you think about it, the fact that Beijing intentionally downplayed the deadly nature of COVID-19 should come as no surprise. For decades … it has been their business to search out our vulnerabilities, exploit those vulnerabilities, and what did they try to do? They tried to use that as leverage against us. So it is time for us to say, “No more.”

Now, here is another component. I’ve talked about in this week on the floor: our pharmaceutical supply chain.
On February 22, 2020, the F.D.A. announced the shortage of a drug used to treat victims of COVID-19. Imagine that, there was a drug shortage. They attributed the shortage of getting the active ingredient in this pharmaceutical. They are called APIs. They couldn’t get it from the site in China which is the site that manufactured it because that site had been affected by COVID-19. So here we are. We need this component to go into a pharmaceutical. We didn’t get it because the factory that produces this has been affected by COVID-19. And it’s not the first time that this has happened.
In 2016, we saw a shortage of an important antibiotic when the sole source of its production — the only place on the globe that produced this antibiotic — was in China, and that factory was shut down, couldn’t get it. Our vulnerability is not limited to one drug or even just a handful of drugs.
In 2007 and 2008, 246 people died after taking a contaminated blood thinner that came directly from a factory in China. They died — 246 people — just like that. Routine inspections didn’t catch the contaminant, and the drugs flowed right into our medicine cabinets.
[In] 2010, regulators also found serious problems with batches of thyroid medication, muscle relaxers, antibiotics, and this week I got an e-mail from a Tennessean. He said, “I saw what you said on the floor, and I want to let you know I take a heart medication, and it was just recalled because it contained a carcinogen and it was made in China.”
Think about this. These are the pharmaceuticals we take to return ourselves to health and wellness, to manage chronic conditions. And here we have example after example of things that are contaminated, are not what they are intended to be. These are basic, common medications.
In 2018, the F.D.A. recalled several blood pressure medications made in China that were contaminated with cancer-causing toxins. Now, I would imagine there are a few people that come to work every day in this building that take a blood pressure medication. What if you had been taking one for a period of time, and it contained the cancer-causing toxins?
Americans deserve better than this from their pharmaceutical supply chain. If we allow this to continue, we are going to do so at our own peril.
I encourage my colleagues to support the bipartisan Securing America’s Medicine Cabinet Act. Sen. Menendez has worked on this legislation with me, and I’m grateful to him for his support. Mr. President, you are working on legislation that would address some of these issues. Bring this pharmaceutical manufacturing back into the United States of America.
We need to end Chinese control over our health and wellness in this pharmaceutical supply chain. This may seem like something that is too large or too risky an undertaking, but we have already paid dearly for our reliance on Chinese drug manufacturers, and it’s not going to stop because that vulnerability is leverage in the hands of madmen in Beijing who seek nothing but power and will go to any lengths to acquire that power. They don’t care who they hurt. It’s clear with this global pandemic. They don’t care if it is innocent people that are sick or maybe even that lose their life. And they defy us, they defy us when we try to stop them.
It’s time that we rise to the challenge and that we return this supply chain.
As Breitbart News reported in February, the coronavirus pandemic has brought increased attention to the United States’ dangerous dependence on China for pharmaceutical and medical supplies, including an estimated 80 percent of the active pharmaceutical ingredients needed to produce drugs in the United States.
The 2019 report of the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission notes that China is “the world’s largest producer of active pharmaceutical ingredients (APIs). The United States is heavily dependent on drugs that are either sourced from China or include APIs sourced from China.” The report further explains that although India is the world’s leading supplier of generic drugs, India gets 80 percent of its active pharmaceutical ingredients directly from China. The United States also imports 80 percent of its APIs from overseas (primarily from India and China) and “a substantial portion” of its generic drugs “either directly from China or from third countries like India that use APIs sourced from China.”

In other words, almost all pharmaceutical roads lead to China.

Furthermore, the report notes that China’s dominance of the chemical industry and global manufacturing of active pharmaceutical ingredients means that “the world is becoming increasingly dependent on China as the single source for life-saving drugs.”

China achieved this dominance in the pharmaceutical industry by the same methods it employed to dominate the steel industry – through anti-competitive trade practices that dumped cheap state-subsidized products on foreign markets to drive competitors out of business.

Pharmaceutical industry expert Rosemary Gibson, the author of China Rx: Exposing the Risks of America’s Dependence on China for Medicine, told Breitbart News that the only way to end China’s “global chokehold” on the world’s pharmaceutical supply chains is to actively invest in our own domestic manufacturing through an industrial policy.

“I would have our federal government invest in helping to rebuild our industrial base using advanced manufacturing technology that can produce our medicines much more cheaply, safely, with less environmental footprint, and fully, from soup to nuts from those core raw materials to finished drug in one location all here in the United States,” Gibson said.

Gibson added, “There will be opponents who say, ‘No, we should let the market do it.’ The market will never do this. They’ll never make this investment. So we have to decide as a country, do we want to have some degree of self-sufficiency in our ability to make medicine? Do we want our military not to be dependent on China for pharmaceuticals to treat chemical and biological agents?”

“Some are saying, ‘Let the free market fix it,’” Gibson said. “There is no free market. We wouldn’t allow this for our nuclear submarines and aircraft carriers to operate, because we’d be making them in China. We need to think of our medicines as a strategic asset, not as something cheap that we outsource to a country that has a lot of problems.”

Gibson noted that the ordinary principles of the free market do not apply when dealing with China because the communist regime subsidizes its industries.
“It’s not a free market,” Gibson said. “They cheated [with] subsidies to these Chinese companies, so it’s very hard for any U.S. or western company to compete, because you’re competing not with Chinese companies; you’re competing with the Chinese government.”
 

marsh

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Coronavirus spreads to at least SIX Amazon warehouses shipping packages to isolated Americans

Updated: Mar 25 2020, 0:27 ET


WORKERS from at least six different Amazon warehouses have tested positive for Covid-19, according to various local reports.

The developments come after the company announced that it's looking to hire around 100,000 additional workers to tackle the increase in demand from online shoppers.
 Six different Amazon warehouses have seen staff test positive for Covid-19, including Shepherdsville, Kentucky
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Six different Amazon warehouses have seen staff test positive for Covid-19, including Shepherdsville, KentuckyCredit: Reuters
 The news comes after staff across the US and Europe expressed their safety concerns

The news comes after staff across the US and Europe expressed their safety concernsCredit: REUTERS

Cases have broken out at warehouses in New York City and Shephersville, Kentucky, as well as Jacksonville, Florida, and Katy, Texas.

Elsewhere, there have also been cases in Browntown, Michigan, and Oklahoma City.

Responses have appeared to vary from warehouse to warehouse, with some facilities shutting for cleaning, while others have told those in close proximity to infected co-workers to quarantine.

On Tuesday, news of a positive test was shared with a small group of supervisors at a Staten Island, New York, facility, according to the New York Post.
That facility remains open, The Post reported, though staff have expressed their concerns.

Chris Smalls, a management assistant at the facility, said: "They don’t have people’s best interests in mind. It’s irresponsible and inhumane to have us keep working there.

“We’re going to be a second wave [of the outbreak]. I understand we’re essential to our communities, but we’re not helping out the community if we’re carrying the virus.

“It can definitely travel to drivers and other people down the line. If the sort centers are infected, then, yeah, you got a problem and it can go to customers.
"It’s a domino effect.”
 A worker at a Staten Island facility expressed their concerns on Tuesday after a case of Covid-19 was discovered
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A worker at a Staten Island facility expressed their concerns on Tuesday after a case of Covid-19 was discoveredCredit: AP:Associated Press
 An employee at an Amazon fulfillment center in Jacksonville, Florida, also tested positive for COVID-19

An employee at an Amazon fulfillment center in Jacksonville, Florida, also tested positive for COVID-19Credit: firstcoastnews.com

Last week, Amazon workers told The Washington Post that they felt the company was not taking enough precautions as online orders mounted.

Following the news that warehouse workers had tested positive in Spain and Italy, workers in the United States and across Europe said they felt that their workplaces were not safe enough.

Across the globe, more than Amazon 1,500 workers signed a petition to ask the company to take additional safety steps.

On Monday, Amazon declared its plans to hire 100,000 new works to help with the surge in the number of orders it's currently receiving.

This surge has left the company unable to meet the demands of its customers, who have increased their orders during recent weeks as self-isolation and working-from-home rules have looked to combat the spread of coronavirus.
 

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First US child to ‘die from coronavirus’ was only diagnosed after his death as he ‘did not meet COVID-19 test criteria’
  • Mollie Mansfield
  • Chris Spargo
  • Mar 25 2020, 12:02 ET
  • Updated: Mar 25 2020, 17:16 ET
THE FIRST US child to succumb to coronavirus was only diagnosed with the deadly infection after he died as he did not “meet the criteria” for the test, the Sun has learned.

Lancaster, Los Angeles, Mayor Rex Parris said Wednesday that the teenager "did not meet the criteria for public health to OK a test and the only time he was tested was after he died."

 In a press release on Tuesday, the officials said: One of the individuals was a youth under the age of 18.

In a press release on Tuesday, the officials said: "One of the individuals was a youth under the age of 18."Credit: Alamy Live News

LA Mayor Erioc Garcetti also responded to the death, stating overnight: "I was informed by the county that this individual did not have pre-existing conditions. It’s a sober reminder that anybody can die from this disease."

The Sun can report that the minor was a 17-year-old who went to hospital with respiratory problems, but was denied testing.

He then went to Antelope Valley Hospital which is where he ultimately died of septic shock, before he was diagnosed with coronavirus post-mortem.

The Global Sepsis Alliance has stated that COVID-19 can cause sepsis, which can lead to septic shock.

Speaking to the Sun, Mayor Parris said: "They had the funeral already. His family has no idea he was the boy in the news.

“The family didn’t know about COVID-19. They were shaking hands at the funeral.”

The father has been trying to get tested but to no avail, the mayor said. “He has just been told to self-quarantine,” Parris said
 He then went to Antelope Valley Hospital which is where he ultimately died of septic shock, before he was diagnosed with coronavirus post-mortem

He then went to Antelope Valley Hospital which is where he ultimately died of septic shock, before he was diagnosed with coronavirus post-mortemCredit: AV Hospital

Speaking to Fox 11 on Wednesday, Mayor Rex Pariss said the city has purchased 100,000 coronavirus test kits.

He also advised on social media: "Keep your children home. This is no longer an old people's disease."

Governor of California Gavin Newsom reiterated this sentiment, revealing that half of the cases in the state are individuals between the ages of 18 to 49.

In a statement released overnight, LA County health officials said: "Though early tests indicated a positive result for COVID-19, the case is complex and there may be an alternate explanation for this fatality."

Dr Barbara Ferrer, Los Angeles County Public Health Director, said: "Each loss we experience in LA County is tragic, and we are sending our heartfelt condolences to the families and loved ones who've had to endure this tragedy"

Credit: AP:Associated Press

"Patient privacy prevents our offering further details at this time.”

Public health officials said the death of the Lancaster boy is "a devastating reminder that COVID-19 infects people of all ages."

LA County health officials wrote in a press release on Tuesday that the minor was one of three new deaths.

The officials said: "One of the individuals was a youth under the age of 18."
 LA County health officials wrote in a press release on Tuesday that the minor was one of three new deaths
LA County health officials wrote in a press release on Tuesday that the minor was one of three new deathsCredit: Alamy Live News

Dr Barbara Ferrer, Los Angeles County Public Health Director, said: "Each loss we experience in LA County is tragic, and we are sending our heartfelt condolences to the families and loved ones who've had to endure this tragedy.

"While Public Health is doing everything possible to mitigate the impact of this disease in our community, we can only flatten the curve if EVERYONE takes social distancing seriously and adheres to all isolation and quarantine orders issued by our Health Officer.”

The release also stated that there are 10 coronavirus cases in the age group of 0 to 17 in the Los Angeles County.

Currently, 42% of those infected with the illness in the county are aged between 18 to 40.

The news of the minor's death came on the same day that the US coronavirus death toll topped 600.

Despite the rise in deaths, Donald Trump said on Tuesday that he wants the country reopened by Easter.
 

Ragnarok

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Pinellas County ( St. Petersburg Area ) Issues Sta-at-Home Orders to Begin Thursday

Pinellas County leaders are mandating that all residents stay at home except for essential needs, in an effort to prevent the spread of coronavirus.

The "safer-at-home" initiative takes effect Thursday, March 26 at 12 p.m. and "will continue so long as there is a declared local state of emergency in Pinellas," according to the county.

The initiative will enforce that Pinellas residents comply with the CDC guidelines of social distancing, stay home as much as possible and limit non-essential activity.

People should only leave their homes to "meet essential needs such as food, healthcare, laundry and outdoor recreation."
Essential activities include:
  • Direct care or support of family members
  • Healthcare and medical services
  • Pharmacies, health care supply stores, and health care facilities
  • Groceries
  • Meal take-outs from local food establishments (including food banks)
  • Essential work duties that cannot be performed from home
  • Primary or emergency care or direct care support for a family member or relative
  • Banks and related financial institutions
  • Laundry services, laundromats
  • Essential home repairs and maintenance (lawn care, plumbing, roofing, etc.)
  • Outdoor activity while following CDC guidelines (examples include: walking pet, hiking, biking).
  • Veterinarians and pet boarding facilities
  • Gas stations, auto-supply and auto-repair facilities
Pinellas County Commissioners say the measure will not force golf courses or boat ramps to close, as long as social distancing rules are being followed.

The order does not force non-essential businesses to close as long as they meet CDC guidelines.

"Businesses that do not comply with the order will be subject to the appropriate enforcement action up to and including orders to close and criminal charges," the county said.

The Pinellas County Sheriff, Bob Gualtieri, says he is equipped to enforce the new rules and also suggested that businesses, such as retail stores, post notice of the "safer-at-home" resolution and informing customers that CDC guidelines must be followed for anyone entering the store. Any businesses caught several times breaking the rules could face fines up to $500 and even potential jail time.

Pinellas County leaders would also like to see the rule enforced regionally, though Hillsborough County has not yet enforced a "safer-at-home" rule.

At the state level, Governor Ron DeSantis has not issued a "stay-at-home" order similar to what Pinellas County is doing. Prior to the weekend, Florida's Commissioner of Agriculture Nikki Fried urged Gov. DeSantis to issue a statewide stay-at-home order for all Floridians.

Fried said in a press release last Friday that Gov. DeSantis needs to take action as Florida is starting to see "dramatically increasing" number of coronavirus cases. While she understand a statewide stay-at-home order may impact Florida's economy, Commissioner Fried said "it is a decision that will save lives."
 

PanBear

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Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti warns of mass death, condemns 'false hope,' and tells us his city will be on lockdown for another 2 months — and to 'be prepared for longer'
 

PanBear

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Designer Ji Lee created 12 emoji—including many inspired by those you know and love—for pandemic times.
View: https://twitter.com/FastCompany/status/1242871907390763008


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Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
Dang. I'm 56 and on Ramipril. Does anyone know if the dosage matters? I think mine is pretty low. Wonder if I should just stop taking it. Or is it too late?

According to Rondaben dosage does matter... Lower doses are best. He stressed to me that there is more danger in suddenly stopping your meds than in the higher risk of contracting COVID-19.
 
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shane

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Texas placed restrictions on writing prescriptions for chloroquine,
hydroxychloroquine, mefloquine, and azithromycin last Friday...


Panic Early, Beat the Rush!
- Shane
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In one Italian town, we showed mass testing could eradicate the coronavirus

By identifying and isolating clusters of infected people, we wiped out Covid-19 in Vò
Andrea Crisanti and Antonio Cassone
Fri 20 Mar 2020 03.00 EDT Last modified on Fri 20 Mar 2020 08.05 EDT

People line up to undergo a voluntary test for coronavirus in Vò, Italy, 8 March 2020.
People line up to undergo a voluntary test for coronavirus in Vò, Italy, 8 March 2020. Photograph: Andrea Casalis/AP

It’s now about one month since Covid-19 began to sweep across Italy. With more than total cases topping 40,000 as of 19 March, it is now the worst-affected country outside of China.

But in the last two weeks, a promising pilot study here has produced results that may be instructive for other countries trying to control coronavirus.

Beginning on 6 March , along with researchers at the University of Padua and the Red Cross, we tested all residents of Vò, a town of 3,000 inhabitants near Venice – including those who did not have symptoms.

This allowed us to quarantine people before they showed signs of infection and stop the further spread of coronavirus. In this way, we eradicated coronavirus in under 14 days.


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Scientists say mass tests in Italian town have halted Covid-19 there

While we believe it is too late to enact this approach in a city such as Milan, where infections are out of control, there could still be time to do this in the UK before the crisis gets even worse: the government could identify and isolate clusters, quarantine everyone affected, trace their recent contacts, and quarantine and isolate them, too – whether they had symptoms or not.

Our experiment came to be by chance. The Italian authorities had a strong emotional reaction to news of the country’s first death – which was in Vò. The whole town was put into quarantine and every inhabitant was tested. The tests were processed by us at the University of Padua. It became clear that this was a unique epidemiological setting – and an application was put in to keep the town in lockdown and run a second round of tests after nine days.

In the first round of testing, 89 people tested positive. In the second round, the number had dropped to six, who remained in isolation. In this way, we managed to eradicate coronavirus from Vò, achieving a 100% recovery rate for those previously infected while recording no further cases of transmission.

We made an interesting finding: at the time the first symptomatic case was diagnosed, a significant proportion of the population, about 3%, had already been infected – yet most of them were completely asymptomatic. Our study established a valuable principle: testing of all citizens, whether or not they have symptoms, provides a way to control this pandemic.

The nature of this crisis means that establishing a structured response like this is key, while widespread testing is crucial in telling an accurate story of how many people are affected, and what the mortality rate of the virus actually is. In Italy, we have struggled with a rampant rise of mortality (the number of casualties divided by the number of infected people), which has reached an apparent value of 8% – far higher than the mortality rate in China and grimly close to that during the 2002-2003 Sars outbreak.

This high rate is misleading, though. After the first few days of the initial outbreak, cases were classed as all of those found to be infected by the virus. Yet since then, only the obviously symptomatic subjects – those needing medical care – have been tested for the virus and thus counted as cases.

The decision to only test those who presented for treatment with symptoms of the virus was taken by major Italian public health experts, apparently in line with World Health Organization (WHO) suggestions. The consequence has been that people who haven’t asked for medical attention have only been tested very occasionally in Italy. Nonetheless, asymptomatic or quasi-symptomatic subjects represent a good 70% of all virus-infected people and, still worse, an unknown, yet impossible to ignore portion of them can transmit the virus to others. Full testing would give us a clearer picture of how many people actually have the virus, and how many pass it on.

If the fact that only those presenting with the virus were being tested was accounted for, the mortality percentage would fall to more “normal” levels. This is shown by the mortality in the Veneto region, which is steadily around 2.5-3%, still high but threefold less than the ones in Lombardy and Emilia-Romagna.

Why this marked difference? Veneto is comparable to the other two northern regions for education, general lifestyle, personal income and age of the population – all factors, particularly the last one, believed to influence Covid-19 mortality.

Although a non-homogeneous data collection and other variables could explain the difference, there is one main factor that is likely playing a role. In Veneto, the virus was more actively sought out through testing, a programme that included part of the asymptomatic population. Official numbers speak of roughly eight in every 100 people tested in Veneto, against about half and one-third of that proportion in Lombardy and Emila-Romagna, respectively.

Unfortunately, it would be near impossible to repeat this model in a large city, due to the number of people who would need to be tested. However, our findings warrant careful consideration by health policymakers in Italy and around the world. They invite researchers to eradicate the virus through extensive testing of both symptomatic individuals and all of their social contacts – including relatives, friends and neighbours. In this way, we catch out the disease before it has the chance to spread – and, most importantly, before the carrier has the chance to unwittingly pass it on to other people.

In the absence of specific therapies or a vaccine, quarantine, distancing and identification of asymptomatic carriers remain the only real measures to control this epidemic. In the UK, authorities could still identify and isolate clusters, and test everyone who has come into contact with those infected. Wisely, though probably belatedly, WHO has just this week recommended what we have found in our research to be the best line of defence: testing, testing, testing.

• Andrea Crisanti is professor of microbiology at the University of Padua; Antonio Cassone is a former director of the department of infectious diseases at the Italian institute of health

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Test + Quarantine (real quarantine) works = scientific method
When will they begin with the crematoriums?
When Trump is gone and Hillary is president
 

Texican

Live Free & Die Free.... God Freedom Country....
Does anyone know if you can soak your nIl latex gloves in a disinfectant solution if that would work to be able to reuse them

I use hand sanitizer on my hands before putting on nitrile gloves and do the same with the second pair when I go out in public including coating the exterior of the second pair with hand sanitizer . I then use hand sanitizer on the gloves when I get back into the vehicle. The nitrile gloves will eventually fail after a couple of uses, thus the use of two pairs. Generally the outside glove fails first.

When packages arrive at our home, the packages are placed by the delivery guy on the designated outside table. I use bleach water on my hands then install the nitrile gloves and spray the gloves down, then spray all surfaces of the packages. The gloves will fail after a couple of uses.

Texican....
 

summerthyme

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WOW: NY Gov Cuomo updated an executive order Monday to block pharmacists from filling prescriptions for the drug hydroxychloroquine for any uses not approved by the FDA. That means this NY doctor who successfully treated 350 patients w/ COVID19 can no longer prescribe the drug.

View: https://twitter.com/MichaelCoudrey/status/1242897547171004417


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All this means is the wealthy won't be able to... er... encourage (bribe, or otherwise reward) their doctor to give them a script for hydroxychloroqine "just in case".

Given the ongoing "trial" using the meds in severe cases in the hospital, this won't stop the use of them in serious cases. But it means if you've got a relatively mild case, you aren't getting a script to "get better faster". Given the extreme discrepancy between supply and need (not demand, which is probably a million times worse), that's not actually a bad thing.

Texas (IIRC) just did something similar... you aren't getting Plaquenil unless you have lupus or one of the "approved uses" in the past, or if you are unlucky enough to be newly diagnosed, you're only getting a 14 day script at a time. These are common sense rules meant to prevent hoarding of a potentially lifesaving drug.

And I'd rather see physicians and nurses working in hospitals getting the stuff than the local bigwigs, who are "essential" only in their own minds! However, while there seems to be some solid anecdotal evidence (and likely enough for a retrospective study, at this point) that the combination of Azithromycin +hydroxychloroqine actually cures this virus, I've seen *nothing* yet that indicates that taking hydroxychloroqine can *prevent*someone from getting it. IMHO, using it for prevention, absent any sort of evidence it helps is wasting a valuable resource..

Summerthyme
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
Well... Who DIDN'T see this coming???


Students at multiple Florida colleges test positive for the coronavirus
More college students across Florida have tested positive for COVID-19, a disease brought on by the coronavirus, the schools announced over the weekend.

The latest case is at the University of South Florida St. Petersburg, which delivered the news in an email to students and faculty Sunday. Four days earlier, the school sent out a notice that an employee on the USF Tampa campus had tested positive for the virus, after coming into direct contact with 13 students.

Meanwhile, the University of Florida updated its website Sunday afternoon to show 10 students and one employee had tested positive at the Gainesville school. And the University of Tampa on Saturday announced five additional cases linked to spring break travel, bringing the school’s total number of student cases to six.


The student at USF, who has not been identified, hasn’t visited campus since “late February,” according to the email by university president Steve Currall. The school did not release the student’s age, gender or field of study, and did not specify whether the case is travel-related.
"The student is being monitored by the Florida Department of Health Pinellas County office and based on its assessments, there is no need for further contact-tracing at the university for this case,” Currall wrote.


The count at UF includes undergraduate, graduate and law students in various fields of study. The sole employee to test positive works in the College of Veterinary Medicine, according to the website.
UF officials will continue to update the website each day, the school said on Twitter: “Each new entry will include as much info as possible according to student, employee and patient confidentiality laws.”

Five of the UT students traveled together for spring break, along with other students from the school, according to a Facebook post by the school. The university did not specify where the students traveled but said only four returned to campus afterward. All are self-isolating and none have been hospitalized, the post said.
All three schools have said the Department of Health is monitoring the affected students. Questions posed to the department were not immediately answered.
The beginning of the tidal wave I mentioned in earlier posts
Tens of thousands of cases like this by the end of the month to mid april. Trump really hasn"t got a clue what he will be dealing with by Easter.k
 
US Army calls on medical retirees to help with coronavirus response
From CNN's Oliver Janney and Ryan Browne

The US Army has reached out to retired medical personnel to possibly volunteer to support the coronavirus response effort.
In an email obtained by CNN, the Army called upon retired personnel on Wednesday looking for “voluntary recall of retired soldiers” with specific medical specialties.
“We need to hear from you STAT!” the Army said.

The Army is asking for help from retired soldiers qualified in these specialties:
  • 60F: Critical Care Officer;
  • 60N: Anesthesiologist;
  • 66F: Nurse Anesthetist;
  • 66S: Critical Care Nurse;
  • 66P: Nurse Practitioner;
  • 66T: ER Nurse;
  • 68V: Respiratory Specialist;
  • 68W: Medic.

A spokesperson for the Army said they’re “gauging the availability and capabilities of our retired career medical personnel to potentially assist with Covid-19 pandemic response efforts if needed.”

The spokesperson made clear they do not want to interfere in any civilian medical needs, stating, “This information request will no way interfere with any care they may be providing to their communities, it is for future planning purposes only, and is completely voluntary."
“These extraordinary challenges require equally extraordinary solutions and that's why we're turning to you — trusted professionals capable of operating under constantly changing conditions. When the Nation called — you answered, and now, that call may come again," the email to retirees said.

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marsh

On TB every waking moment

Gov. Baker prohibits reusable shopping bags during coronavirus emergency
BOSTON —

Gov. Charlie Baker on Wednesday announced a new public health order related to grocery stores and pharmacies in Massachusetts, which includes a temporary ban on reusable bags.

"From now on, reusable bags are prohibited and all regulations on plastic bag bans are lifted," he said.

The order also prohibits stores from charging for paper and plastic bags while the order is in place.

Boston Mayor Marty Walsh had previously announced the same measures in the city.

According to Baker, other features of the public health order require grocery stores and pharmacies to:
  • Hold at least one hour per day of shopping time for adults over 60-years old.
  • Offer hand sanitizer and disinfecting wipes, as available, for customers to use in store for cleaning carts.
  • Procedures to ensure customers and staff maintain 6 feet of distance.
  • Closure of any self-serve food stations.
  • Instructs employees to stay home if they are not feeling well.
  • Asks stores to offer alternative assignments to employees at high risk for complications if they contract COVID-19.
The companies that operate Stop & Shop, Shaw's and Star Market stores recently said they were adopting many of these changes. Those chains also announced plans to install the precautionary barriers at checkout lanes in the near future.
 

imminence

Membership Revoked
They've got five freezer trucks at the hospital in NYC. What are they going to do when they can't get enough trucks to store bodies in? I see the day....
Well, i think its safe to say, that they will not be preserving these bodies for any long period of time. Therefore, they will not be "storing" these corpse's. The city will properly dispose of these DOA'S if family does not take for burial, and or cremation.
 
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