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Tristan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
What an infantile response. So, you're saying the "ends justify the means" . . . as long as it's best for him, it's ok for him to break/bend/twist the law?

Just shaking my head. I feel sorry for people like yourself.


HB


Losing Doctors in a pandemic is a recipe for disaster. Protecting them, even if they are having to protect themselves, seems like a good idea to me.

YMMV, of course.

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Mixin

Veteran Member
I found a little info on the Hancock Co. cases; they listed their first death today: There were 4 more positives added today, also; making a total of 8 cases. Greenfield area.
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The health department said in a news release Tuesday (3.24) that the individual was over the age of 60 with underlying health conditions. health department received the individual’s test results on Tuesday, after they had passed away. On Tuesday morning, the state health department raised Hancock County’s total of positive COVID-19 cases to four as of 11:59 p.m. Monday. Baker said neither of the four are elderly. Earlier this week, she said the county’s first three recorded positive COVID-19 cases are isolating at home, and said Tuesday the department is still in the investigation phase on the fourth case.
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Johnson County = Greenwood area
3 deaths, 24 cases
3.17 (>60. had been hosp, 2nd death in Indiana)
The three people who have died all lived in the Greenwood area, according to the Johnson County Joint Incident Management Team. The last two people in Johnson County who died were age 75 and passed away in the hospital.
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It's getting hard to keep up with each county = The dashboard (state's site) also has been updated to remove a previously counted case in Hancock County that was erroneously reported to ISDH as a positive and to shift the county of residence for three others, giving Brown County its first case, moving one case from Hancock to Hamilton County and moving a Wayne County case to Fayette County.
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Deaths in all counties:
6 Marion
3 Johnson
1 Howard * first death 3.25
1 Allen
1 Delaware
1 Hancock * first death 3.25
1 Scott
 

Tristan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
No where in any of my posts have I referred to any "law that says doctors are second-class citizens". I'm afraid your either typing with clouded emotion, or have poor reading abilities.

I don't understand, for the last many YEARS we've been complaining about the differing levels of justice between the pampered politicians and us 'regular folk'. It's a slippery slope once we start justifying anyone's ability to bend/break laws and then simply say, "well, they NEEDED to." or "They are MORE IMPORTANT that you."

We can't have it both ways.


HB


Conflating "Pampered Politicians" with Doctors seems to me to be disingenuous, at best.

We are going to be working through many, many issues regarding the response to this crisis; seems pretty clear to me, and a few others, that protecting the people who can save other's lives may be a reasonable trade off.

If we were at war, and there was a limited supply of a prophylactic treatment for disease, would you be willing to treat the troops before citizens?

Aren't we in effect at war with this contagion?

It's also clear that various reports have indicated that Medical Organizations have prioritized their patients 'feelings' over the safety of their workers, (blocking the use of PPE which might 'upset' patients) which is simply insane. So med pros are trying to protect themselves? More power to 'em.
 

skoaldiak

WWG1WGA

mzkitty

I give up.
The last I heard Tom man there were TEN THOUSAND HOMELESS IN NEW YORK CITY AND THEY TESTED 30. OH, di blasio is really on the ball here. :eleph:

Well, letting them all know testing is available might be one problem.
Them wanting to get tested is another.
They really don't want much to do with us in the meat world.
And you've got to dig them out of wherever their hidey holes and burrows are. Not an easy feat.
I mean, most of them probably don't text, you know.
 

TorahTips

Membership Revoked
Michael Coudrey
@MichaelCoudrey

WOW: NY Gov Cuomo updated an executive order Monday to block pharmacists from filling prescriptions for the drug hydroxychloroquine for any uses not approved by the FDA. That means this NY doctor who successfully treated 350 patients w/ COVID19 can no longer prescribe the drug.

View: https://twitter.com/MichaelCoudrey/status/1242897547171004417


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Brilliant move!!!! Great job.
 

Faroe

Un-spun
No where in any of my posts have I referred to any "law that says doctors are second-class citizens". I'm afraid your either typing with clouded emotion, or have poor reading abilities.

I don't understand, for the last many YEARS we've been complaining about the differing levels of justice between the pampered politicians and us 'regular folk'. It's a slippery slope once we start justifying anyone's ability to bend/break laws and then simply say, "well, they NEEDED to." or "They are MORE IMPORTANT that you."

We can't have it both ways.


HB
I don't have an issue with the doctors writing the prescriptions.

They aren't doing it to support a drug habit. Nanny state laws, anyway. Otherwise, regular people are saving the leftovers of old prescriptions, or going to All Day Chem, or getting fish meds (I may just be the only person on this board who has purchased and used fish meds for actual fish!). Are those options technically legal? I doubt it. You can care if you want to. I'd rather see the doctors fully prepped with they need.

Illegal does not necessarily equal immoral.
 

rlm1966

Veteran Member
Would you prefer that he started each press conference by saying something like, "Just wanted to let you all know that this team behind me sucks. They are failing. Our country is tanking. You should all just go out back and look for deadly berries to eat."

Honest question.


HB
Perhaps start with "Some team members are not performing at an acceptable level and the following persons are no longer in a position of authority - Head of the CDC"
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
Well, letting them all know testing is available might be one problem.
Them wanting to get tested is another.
They really don't want much to do with us in the meat world.
And you've got to dig them out of wherever their hidey holes and burrows are. Not an easy feat.
I mean, most of them probably don't text, you know.
But Obama gave them all cell phones, and they for sure know where all the system places that feed them are
They will get tested if they want to and interact with the system as much as they want to. Many of them want little, if anything to do with the system, but my read is di blasio is making some noises about the "homeless" but nobody gives a #%^^ a out them. Still even portland is doing better than New York city is so. My gut is telling me between system incompetence, being overwhelmed and not committing the kind of resources to it well the homeless will die in large numbers. After all, given the large numbers of NYPD and other first responders sick, or just calling off who will look for them and risk near certain infection? Finally, di blasio has NO RELATIONSHIP WITH FIRST RESPONDERS AT ALL THEY DESPISE HIM AND HIS FRUITCAKE BS AND THE HOMELESS WILL BE LEFT TO THEIR OWN DEVICES.:dstrs:
 

Kevmoley

Look, I am a Member
There are about 330 million people living in the U.S., only 300,000 Americans have been tested for the coronavirus and 61,062 of them have tested positive.
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
Well... Who DIDN'T see this coming???


Students at multiple Florida colleges test positive for the coronavirus
More college students across Florida have tested positive for COVID-19, a disease brought on by the coronavirus, the schools announced over the weekend.

The latest case is at the University of South Florida St. Petersburg, which delivered the news in an email to students and faculty Sunday. Four days earlier, the school sent out a notice that an employee on the USF Tampa campus had tested positive for the virus, after coming into direct contact with 13 students.

Meanwhile, the University of Florida updated its website Sunday afternoon to show 10 students and one employee had tested positive at the Gainesville school. And the University of Tampa on Saturday announced five additional cases linked to spring break travel, bringing the school’s total number of student cases to six.

Six UT students have tested positive for COVID-19. One student was traveling internationally and was tested at the...
Posted by The University of Tampa on Saturday, March 21, 2020
The student at USF, who has not been identified, hasn’t visited campus since “late February,” according to the email by university president Steve Currall. The school did not release the student’s age, gender or field of study, and did not specify whether the case is travel-related.
"The student is being monitored by the Florida Department of Health Pinellas County office and based on its assessments, there is no need for further contact-tracing at the university for this case,” Currall wrote.

This weekend we learned that a USF St. Peterburg student tested positive for COVID 19. Details are included in this message from President Currall. We sincerely wish this student a full and rapid recovery. Coronavirus (COVID-19) Updates | University of South Florida
— Martin Tadlock (@martintadlock) March 22, 2020
The count at UF includes undergraduate, graduate and law students in various fields of study. The sole employee to test positive works in the College of Veterinary Medicine, according to the website.
UF officials will continue to update the website each day, the school said on Twitter: “Each new entry will include as much info as possible according to student, employee and patient confidentiality laws.”
COVID-19 CASES AT UF

New cases will be posted once a day, before noon, including Sat/Sun. Each new entry will include as much info as possible according to student, employee & patient confidentiality laws and will indicate when it was posted or updated.University of Florida
— FLORIDA (@UF) March 22, 2020
Five of the UT students traveled together for spring break, along with other students from the school, according to a Facebook post by the school. The university did not specify where the students traveled but said only four returned to campus afterward. All are self-isolating and none have been hospitalized, the post said.
All three schools have said the Department of Health is monitoring the affected students. Questions posed to the department were not immediately answered.
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AsCH0IXelo
5:36 min

New York Doctor Reports From Front Lines Of Coronavirus Crisis: ‘It Does Not Spare Anyone’ | TODAY
•Mar 25, 2020


TODAY

Dr. Craig Spencer, who contracted Ebola while fighting its outbreak in Africa, is now an emergency room doctor in New York City. He tells TODAY that “it’s hard to find patients who are not coronavirus” and says they are young as well as old: “It does not spare anyone.” He warns: “Soon hospitals are going to be overwhelmed.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldhqxjFYTOQ
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhp4vL1LgAA
3:26 min
New York City to close some streets during coronavirus outbreak, Cuomo says
•Mar 25, 2020


CBS News

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo announced new rules for New York City playgrounds and said a pilot program will test closing some streets to reduce crowding for pedestrians during the coronavirus outbreak. Watch his remarks from a news conference Wednesday
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzMc02H8Jwo
2:37 min
What doctors are learning from recovering coronavirus patients
•Mar 25, 2020


CBS This Morning

As more coronavirus cases are reported in the U.S., doctors are hoping stories of recovery could help them learn more about how to treat the disease. Dr. David Agus joins "CBS This Morning" to explain what the road to recovery looks like and how doctors can use that information to help future cases.
 

Macgyver

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Michael Coudrey
@MichaelCoudrey

WOW: NY Gov Cuomo updated an executive order Monday to block pharmacists from filling prescriptions for the drug hydroxychloroquine for any uses not approved by the FDA. That means this NY doctor who successfully treated 350 patients w/ COVID19 can no longer prescribe the drug.

View: https://twitter.com/MichaelCoudrey/status/1242897547171004417


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Since when does anyone have control over that besides the FDA?
 

rlm1966

Veteran Member
Brilliant move!!!! Great job.
Yeah, let em' die because the drug doesn't have the proper recognition of the FDA. You know, the FDA that is bought and paid for by large corporations so that they can rip people off charging way more here than anywhere else.

Seriously present people with the facts, both pro and con, and let them chose which path to take.
 

library lady

Veteran Member
The heck with Cuomo!

Bahrain says drug touted by Trump as
coronavirus treatment working on its patients


Clinical Tests of Hydroxychloroquines to Fight COVID-19 in Bahrain prove successful

Bahrain has already successfully used the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine that President Trump has touted as a possible treatment for the coronavirus – as researchers race to find a vaccine.

The Kingdom of Bahrain's Supreme Council of Health chairman recently said his country was among the first to use the drug and that its impact has been "profound," according to the Bahrain News Agency.

Dr Shaikh Mohamed, who leads the National Taskforce for Combating COVID-19, was also quoted by the news agency as saying hydroxychloroquine was administered according to the same regimens as those used in China and South Korea.

The first COVID-19 case in Bahrain was reported on Feb. 21, and hydroxychloroquine was first administered to patients showing virus symptoms on Feb. 26.

Bahrain has 419 deaths as a result of the virus, behind Croatia with 442 deaths worldwide, according to the Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Research Center.

Hydroxychloroquine is used to prevent and treat malaria and is administered to patients with rheumatoid arthritis or lupus.
Since the outbreak of the virus, Bahrain has imposed severe restrictions on travel and gatherings and had its national currency disinfected.

 
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poppy

Veteran Member
There are about 330 million people living in the U.S., only 300,000 Americans have been tested for the coronavirus and 61,062 of them have tested positive.


But what's your point? Those 300,000 were not random tests. They were people with symptoms who were tested to see if they have the virus. To extrapolate those tests to the whole country is silly. Yes, we know there are infected people with no symptoms.
 

EMICT

Veteran Member
What an infantile response. So, you're saying the "ends justify the means" . . . as long as it's best for him, it's ok for him to break/bend/twist the law?

Just shaking my head. I feel sorry for people like yourself.


HB
Unfortunately, I have a unique perspective in this pandemic. I'm on the 'infantile' medical side of the equation dealing with folks like you all day long. It really does get old at times.
 
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