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Tristan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The tension between China and the US is growing and that was part of the reason I posted articles from there

Yeah, that's cool, but it's also good to clarify who the players are and which team they're playing for. ;)

To be clear, I wasn't trying to whack you, DanielBoon. Just trying to keep track of who's who.
 
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Plain Jane

Just Plain Jane

COVID-19 Data for Pennsylvania*
NegativePositiveDeaths
93,04019,979416
* Map, tables and case counts last updated at 12:00 p.m. on 4/10/2020



Positive Cases by Age Range to Date



Age RangePercent of Cases
0-4< 1%
5-12< 1%
13-181%
19-247%
25-4941%
50-6429%
65+21%
* Percentages may not total 100% due to rounding




Hospitalizations by Age Range to Date


Age RangePercent of Cases
0-4< 1%
5-12< 1%
13-18< 1%
19-241%
25-4919%
50-6429%
65+51%
* Percentages may not total 100% due to rounding




County Case Counts to Date



CountyNumber of CasesDeaths
Adams431
Allegheny78818
Armstrong22
Beaver13913
Bedford 3
Berks72012
Blair9
Bradford16
Bucks95826
Butler1233
Cambria111
Cameron1
Carbon933
Centre61
Chester4859
Clarion10
Clearfield8
Clinton6
Columbia812
Crawford13
Cumberland962
Dauphin1992
Delaware137730
Elk2
Erie36
Fayette491
Forest5
Franklin57
Fulton1
Greene21
Huntingdon8
Indiana26
Jefferson1
Juniata30
Lackawanna34618
Lancaster64821
Lawrence453
Lebanon2181
Lehigh156216
Luzerne132515
Lycoming18
McKean1
Mercer36
Mifflin11
Monroe75219
Montgomery188950
Montour29
Northampton99421
Northumberland29
Perry161
Philadelphia5521110
Pike1906
Potter3
Schuylkill1641
Snyder121
Somerset10
Sullivan1
Susquehanna222
Tioga11
Union12
Venango5
Warren1
Washington66
Wayne53
Westmoreland2025
Wyoming6
York2833
 

Capt. Eddie

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Covid-19 had us all fooled, but now we might have finally found its secret.
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In the last 3–5 days, a mountain of anecdotal evidence has come out of NYC, Italy, Spain, etc. about COVID-19 and characteristics of patients who get seriously ill. It’s not only piling up but now leading to a general field-level consensus backed up by a few previously little-known studies that we’ve had it all wrong the whole time. Well, a few had some things eerily correct (cough Trump cough), especially with Hydroxychloroquine with Azithromicin, but we’ll get to that in a minute.

There is no ‘pneumonia’ nor ARDS. At least not the ARDS with established treatment protocols and procedures we’re familiar with. Ventilators are not only the wrong solution, but high pressure intubation can actually wind up causing more damage than without, not to mention complications from tracheal scarring and ulcers given the duration of intubation often required… They may still have a use in the immediate future for patients too far to bring back with this newfound knowledge, but moving forward a new treatment protocol needs to be established so we stop treating patients for the wrong disease.



Here’s the breakdown of the whole process, including some ELI5-level cliff notes. Much has been simplified just to keep it digestible and layman-friendly.

Your red blood cells carry oxygen from your lungs to all your organs and the rest of your body. Red blood cells can do this thanks to hemoglobin, which is a protein consisting of four “hemes”. Hemes have a special kind of iron ion, which is normally quite toxic in its free form, locked away in its center with a porphyrin acting as it’s ‘container’. In this way, the iron ion can be ‘caged’ and carried around safely by the hemoglobin, but used to bind to oxygen when it gets to your lungs.

When the red blood cell gets to the alveoli, or the little sacs in your lungs where all the gas exchange happens, that special little iron ion can flip between FE2+ and FE3+ states with electron exchange and bond to some oxygen, then it goes off on its little merry way to deliver o2 elsewhere.

Here’s where COVID-19 comes in. Its glycoproteins bond to the heme, and in doing so that special and toxic oxidative iron ion is “disassociated” (released). It’s basically let out of the cage and now freely roaming around on its own. This is bad for two reasons:

1) Without the iron ion, hemoglobin can no longer bind to oxygen. Once all the hemoglobin is impaired, the red blood cell is essentially turned into a Freightliner truck cab with no trailer and no ability to store its cargo.. it is useless and just running around with COVID-19 virus attached to its porphyrin. All these useless trucks running around not delivering oxygen is what starts to lead to desaturation, or watching the patient’s spo2 levels drop. It is INCORRECT to assume traditional ARDS and in doing so, you’re treating the WRONG DISEASE.

Think of it a lot like carbon monoxide poisoning, in which CO is bound to the hemoglobin, making it unable to carry oxygen. In those cases, ventilators aren’t treating the root cause; the patient’s lungs aren’t ‘tiring out’, they’re pumping just fine. The red blood cells just can’t carry o2, end of story. Only in this case, unlike CO poisoning in which eventually the CO can break off, the affected hemoglobin is permanently stripped of its ability to carry o2 because it has lost its iron ion. The body compensates for this lack of o2 carrying capacity and deliveries by having your kidneys release hormones like erythropoietin, which tell your bone marrow factories to ramp up production on new red blood cells with freshly made and fully functioning hemoglobin. This is the reason you find elevated hemoglobin and decreased blood oxygen saturation as one of the 3 primary indicators of whether the shit is about to hit the fan for a particular patient or not.

2) That little iron ion, along with millions of its friends released from other hemes, are now floating through your blood freely. As I mentioned before, this type of iron ion is highly reactive and causes oxidative damage. It turns out that this happens to a limited extent naturally in our bodies and we have cleanup & defense mechanisms to keep the balance. The lungs, in particular, have 3 primary defenses to maintain “iron homeostasis”, 2 of which are in the alveoli, those little sacs in your lungs we talked about earlier. The first of the two are little macrophages that roam around and scavenge up any free radicals like this oxidative iron. The second is a lining on the walls (called the epithelial surface) which has a thin layer of fluid packed with high levels of antioxidant molecules.. things like abscorbic acid (AKA Vitamin C) among others.

Well, this is usually good enough for naturally occurring rogue iron ions but with COVID-19 running rampant your body is now basically like a progressive state letting out all the prisoners out of the prisons… it’s just too much iron and it begins to overwhelm your lungs’ countermeasures, and thus begins the process of pulmonary oxidative stress. This leads to damage and inflammation, which leads to all that nasty stuff and damage you see in CT scans of COVID-19 patient lungs. Ever noticed how it’s always bilateral? (both lungs at the same time) Pneumonia rarely ever does that, but COVID-19 does…

EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

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Once your body is now running out of control, with all your oxygen trucks running around without any freight, and tons of this toxic form of iron floating around in your bloodstream, other defenses kick in. While your lungs are busy with all this oxidative stress they can’t handle, and your organs are being starved of o2 without their constant stream of deliveries from red blood cell’s hemoglobin, and your liver is attempting to do its best to remove the iron and store it in its ‘iron vault’. Only its getting overwhelmed too. It’s starved for oxygen and fighting a losing battle from all your hemoglobin letting its iron free, and starts crying out “help, I’m taking damage!” by releasing an enzyme called alanine aminotransferase (ALT).

BOOM, there is your second of 3 primary indicators of whether the shit is about to hit the fan for a particular patient or not.
Eventually, if the patient’s immune system doesn’t fight off the virus in time before their blood oxygen saturation drops too low, ventilator or no ventilator, organs start shutting down. No fuel, no work. The only way to even try to keep them going is max oxygen, even a hyperbaric chamber if one is available on 100% oxygen at multiple atmospheres of pressure, just to give what’s left of their functioning hemoglobin a chance to carry enough o2 to the organs and keep them alive. Yeah we don’t have nearly enough of those chambers, so some fresh red blood cells with normal hemoglobin in the form of a transfusion will have to do.

The core point being, treating patients with the iron ions stripped from their hemoglobin (rendering it abnormally nonfunctional) with ventilator intubation is futile, unless you’re just hoping the patient’s immune system will work its magic in time. The root of the illness needs to be addressed.

Best case scenario? Treatment regimen early, before symptoms progress too far. Hydroxychloroquine (more on that in a minute, I promise) with Azithromicin has shown fantastic, albeit critics keep mentioning ‘anecdotal’ to describe the mountain, promise and I’ll explain why it does so well next. But forget straight-up plasma with antibodies, that might work early but if the patient is too far gone they’ll need more. They’ll need all the blood: antibodies and red blood cells. No help in sending over a detachment of ammunition to a soldier already unconscious and bleeding out on the battlefield, you need to send that ammo along with some hemoglobin-stimulant-magic so that he can wake up and fire those shots at the enemy.

The story with Hydroxychloroquine

All that hilariously misguided and counterproductive criticism the media piled on chloroquine (purely for political reasons) as a viable treatment will now go down as the biggest Fake News blunder to rule them all. The media actively engaged their activism to fight ‘bad orange man’ at the cost of thousands of lives. Shame on them.
How does chloroquine work? Same way as it does for malaria. You see, malaria is this little parasite that enters the red blood cells and starts eating hemoglobin as its food source.

The reason chloroquine works for malaria is the same reason it works for COVID-19 — while not fully understood, it is suspected to bind to DNA and interfere with the ability to work magic on hemoglobin. The same mechanism that stops malaria from getting its hands on hemoglobin and gobbling it up seems to do the same to COVID-19 (essentially little snippets of DNA in an envelope) from binding to it. On top of that, Hydroxychloroquine (an advanced descendant of regular old chloroquine) lowers the pH which can interfere with the replication of the virus. Again, while the full details are not known, the entire premise of this potentially ‘game changing’ treatment is to prevent hemoglobin from being interfered with, whether due to malaria or COVID-19.

No longer can the media and armchair pseudo-physicians sit in their little ivory towers, proclaiming “DUR so stoopid, malaria is bacteria, COVID-19 is virus, anti-bacteria drug no work on virus!”. They never got the memo that a drug doesn’t need to directly act on the pathogen to be effective. Sometimes it’s enough just to stop it from doing what it does to hemoglobin, regardless of the means it uses to do so.

Anyway, enough of the rant. What’s the end result here? First, the ventilator emergency needs to be re-examined. If you’re putting a patient on a ventilator because they’re going into a coma and need mechanical breathing to stay alive, okay we get it. Give ’em time for their immune systems to pull through. But if they’re conscious, alert, compliant — keep them on O2. Max it if you have to. If you HAVE to inevitably ventilate, do it at low pressure but max O2. Don’t tear up their lungs with max PEEP, you’re doing more harm to the patient because you’re treating the wrong disease.

Ideally, some form of treatment needs to happen to:
  1. Inhibit viral growth and replication. Here plays CHQ+ZPAK+ZINC or other retroviral therapies being studies. Less virus, less hemoglobin losing its iron, less severity and damage.
  2. Therapies used for anyone with abnormal hemoglobin or malfunctioning red blood cells. Blood transfusions. Whatever, I don’t know the full breadth and scope because I’m not a physician. But think along those lines, and treat the real disease. If you’re thinking about giving them plasma with antibodies, maybe if they’re already in bad shape think again and give them BLOOD with antibodies, or at least blood followed by plasma with antibodies.
  3. Now that we know more about how this virus works and affects our bodies, a whole range of options should open up.
  4. Don’t trust China. China is ASSHOE. (disclaimer: not talking about the people, just talking about the regime). They covered this up and have caused all kinds of death and carnage, both literal and economic. The ripples of this pandemic will be felt for decades.
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Thanks Dennis, this makes sense on a lot of levels.
 

danielboon

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United States Attorney to conduct federal investigation at Soldiers’ Home in Holyoke
CRIME
by: Ariana Tourangeau
Posted: Apr 10, 2020 / 11:44 AM EDT / Updated: Apr 10, 2020 / 12:53 PM EDT
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BOSTON (WWLP) – The United States Attorney’s Office is conducting an investigation in the Soldiers’ Home in Holyoke after 32 veteran residents have died.
According to the Office of U.S. Attorney Andrew Lelling, the Attorney’s Office along with the District of Massachusetts and the Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Division will investigate to see whether the Soldiers’ Home violated the rights of residents by failing to provide them adequate medical care during the coronavirus pandemic.
The investigation will be conducted under the Civil Rights of Institutionalized Persons Act. The federal civil investigation will be separate from any state or independent investigation.
CRIPA gives the department the authority to investigate violations of the US. constitution and federal law that result from a “pattern or practice of resistance to the full enjoyment of such rights” in state-run institutions, including nursing facilities.
“It would be difficult to overstate our obligation to the health and well-being of elderly and disabled military veterans and, by extension, to their families. The federal Civil Rights of Institutionalized Persons Act specifically protects the rights of those confined in state facilities like the Holyoke Soldiers’ Home. We will aggressively investigate recent events at the Home and, as needed, require the Commonwealth to adopt reforms to ensure patient safety in the future. My condolences to the families of those veterans who died while in the Home’s care; we will get to the bottom of what happened here.”
U.S. ATTORNEY ANDREW LELLING
Of the deaths, 28 tested positive for COVID-19 and four tested negative.
Families are encouraged to contact the Department via phone at 1-888-221-6023 or by email.









https://www.wwlp.com/news/local-new...of-covid-19-19-deaths-reported-in-greenfield/

https://www.wwlp.com/news/health/co...vid-19-by-baystate-health-2603-tested-so-far/
 

jward

passin' thru
Press Briefing:

_Number of deaths horrible, but with tremendous amount of effort by americans the number is far better than feared.
-Detroit and New Orleans appear to be stabilizing.
-New York #s flattening. Seeing fewer hosp. admissions.

All the folks, medical, the grocery store workers, the avg americans have shown tireless, amazing devotion and turned this around. African American communities hit hard, and further clarity coming as to that issue.
Elective surgeries is still between patient and dr.
getting to point to start considering resuming those proceedures

16 billion relief prog. for farmers and growers hit by this being expedited. Particularly to small farmers... food supply and supply chain will be stable and safe.
 

jward

passin' thru
Press Briefing:

- 2 mill test completed, 100k more daily. blood based serology being dev and rushed to market to help us determine if we've had it.
-WHO announcement next week - a lot to say about it
-23 temp hosp with 16k beds built by defense prod act in 8 states
-building up stock piles with all the vents we're building but probably won't need, also helping others
biggest stock market increase in 50 years this past 4 day week
greatest mobilization of our society since ww2

Birks says:
-watch curves in log phase, starting to level, giving great hope. doubling rate has gone to 8 days.
boston and chicago is still some concern, but beginning to stabalize
Mortality is significantly less than others, due solely to the front line health providers. . .and the americans who've stepped up and isolated. BUT still have not reached the peak. CA, WA, Oregon never became logrhythmic and did great job and are examples for future....
 

jward

passin' thru
Press Briefing

interventions going into clinical trials. clinicaltrials.gov to see which are working and which are not...

Q:
revised guidance re: laundry of gowns---
also issued guidance for cloth gowns---- so our supplies bottlenecks are improving
Met with the minority groups re: the blacks and hispanics being hit so hard. alarming but not surprising.
Higher blood pressure for hispanics and indians and blacks. asthma more a problem for hispanics...
Actively working with outreach to community of colour...
Communities of colour are NOT helpless, follow the guidelines, wash hands, stay isolated, check in on families, do it for big momma, your abuela, your big daddy STAY SIP
 

Mixin

Veteran Member
Indiana... Finally some prison news!

Indiana Department of Correction releases updated COVID-19 case numbers
by: FOX59 Web
Posted: Apr 10, 2020 / 12:27 PM EDT / Updated: Apr 10, 2020 / 12:35 PM EDT

INDIANAPOLIS, Ind. — The Indiana Department of Correction (IDOC) is reporting 33 staff members and 23 offenders have tested positive for the cornavirus as of Friday, April 10, 2020. According to IDOC, a total of 33 staff members have tested positive for COVID-19. The department said they do not release specific staff duty locations.

IDOC reported 23 offenders within six (of the total of 21 correctional facilities) have also tested positive for the virus.

1 at the Branchville Correctional Facility (Perry Co.), 1 at the Heritage Trail Correctional Facility (Plainfield, Hendricks Co) 7 at the Indiana Women’s Prison (Marion Co.), 9 at the Plainfield Correctional Facility (Hendricks Co,) 1 at the Edinburgh Correctional Facility (Johnson Co) and 4 at the Westville Correctional Facility (LaPorte Co).

In a statement, IDOC said the department has and will continue to test staff and offenders in accordance with CDC guidelines.

From IDOC:
The IDOC Preparedness and Response Plan is being followed for any staff member or offender who test positive. As needed, symptomatic offenders are separated from other offenders. Movement of offenders is not released in accordance with security protocols for the safety of offenders and staff.

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These cases have increased at a pretty good rate:

Noon, April 6, total of 6 offenders tested positive: Indian Women's Prison in Marion County, Edinburgh Correction Facility in Johnson Co. and the Plainfield Correctional Facility in Hendricks Co.
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Updated 04/08/2020 at 5:24 pm.
On Wednesday, Indiana's Joint Information Center confirmed to Side Effects that 10 prisoners in state Department of Correction facilities have now tested positive for COVID-19, along with 20 agency employees.
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If anyone is interested, here's a link to how Indiana's prison system is handling Covid-19

 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
This is my worst fear with this virus. It keeps coming back again and again until it gets you.

Coronavirus: 91 recovered cases in South Korea test positive again
 

Richard

TB Fanatic
Of course they work on live animals. Everybody from Revlon Cosmetics, to Purina, to chem warfare scientists, to Wuhan bat gods of the BSL-4 labs work on live animals. That is how they get the data they want. I expect it gets WAY worse than that, but then we get into woo. For the Chinese, the suffering and ethics of it isn't the slightest bit of an issue.
OK agreed but this has to be followed up at the highest International level to expose the ineptitude of the laboratories in China. Other experimenters have not caused a world-wide epidemic even if they have experimented with live animals into different situations, we are talking about the specific experiments into CV and the procedures performed during the investigations which clearly went wrong.

The CCP has to be destroyed as a global political entity as a result of the evil they have unleashed.
 
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Zagdid

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Dead Bodies Pile up at Homes in Ecuador as Mortuary System Fails, Authorities Say Worst Yet to Come
  • AFP LAST UPDATED: APRIL 10, 2020, 10:02 AM IST fair use
Guayaquil: A fetid smell seeps out when an official dressed in full virus protection gear steps out of the door to the Los Ceibos hospital in Guayaquil, Ecuador.

Standing before him as he reads names from a list is a crowd of around 15 people wearing face masks and hoping their wait is over. It's an emotional scene. Some break down in tears as at last, after several days, they discover the body of their deceased loved one will be released. But for Isabel Hernandez, a 43-year-old mother of three, the wait is not over. "I last saw him when he was put on tubes, which was Friday" last week, she told AFP.

Her husband died on Sunday morning of the COVID-19 disease. Although a small country of 17.5 million people, Ecuador is the third worst-hit nation from the virus in Latin America, with nearly 5,000 cases and 272 deaths. Guayaquil, the largest city, is the center of the country's outbreak. Hernandez took two days to acquire the documentation she needs to release her husband's body. Amongst those was a death certificate that, due to the coronavirus outbreak, can now be downloaded from the internet.

A queue of cars topped by coffins forms in front of Los Ceibos. Hernandez is hoping her husband's hearse will have arrived by the time the official with the list next appears. "What I want is to take my husband away from here," she said through sobs.

For weeks, bodies were accumulating in homes following the collapse of the mortuary system, semi-paralyzed by Guayaquil's curfew. The treatment of the dead has led to many Ecuadorans losing trust in the government, which has set up a special force to recover bodies from homes, although no-one knows just how many there might be.

The port city of Guayaquil, with almost 2.7 million inhabitants, is the capital of Guayas province, which has reported 68 percent of Ecuador's coronavirus cases. Authorities say the worst is yet to come. Guayaquil is already overrun by the crisis.

In Los Ceibos, the city's largest hospital, the crisis is worsening. Videos that have gone viral on social media show containers filled with bodies covered in black plastic.

On the other side of the hospital, people in face masks wait, seemingly oblivious to the government's social distancing rules. Many are getting impatient sitting in seats provided by the hospital; they've been waiting for days for news.

Marlene Rivadeneira, an unemployed 53-year-old, is hoping for a miracle to save her 60-year-old sister Isabel, who was taken to the emergency room on Sunday directly from her prison cell where she was serving a five-year sentence over a traffic accident. She's afraid the body will be taken to a government-supplied niche, which she views as little more than a mass grave. She arrived at Los Ceibos with COVID-19 symptoms that subsequently worsened. "I don't know if she is going mad because she's seeing a lot of dead people," said Rivadeneira, who spoke to her sister by cellphone before her condition worsened.

"She's in the emergency room and that's where the critical ones are. She says they're not taking care of her but they are giving her oxygen." She said that while waiting she's seen at least 10 dead people brought out.

On March 19 Los Ceibos canceled doctor's appointments and moved out its most stable patients. Its 600 beds and 91 intensive care units are now dedicated to COVID-19 patients. Guayaquil's healthcare system is under intense pressure with hundreds of patients waiting in corridors and many doctors and nurses off work due to illness.

The government says at least 417 health workers have contracted the virus. In Guayas alone, 54 doctors have died since the outbreak of the virus, some directly affected and others indirectly because they couldn't receive treatment for other ailments.

Supplies are also running short. Pablo Matamoros, 51 and unemployed, took his mother to hospital on Sunday after having tried two other establishments that didn't have oxygen. His 72-year-old mother tested positive for the coronavirus in Los Ceibos and the level of oxygen in her blood is low. "The doctor told me... what could happen. Now they're going to fix her up to a tube," said Matamoros.
 

Texican

Live Free & Die Free.... God Freedom Country....
From: U.S. County Coronavirus (COVID-19) Interactive Map and Tracker at 2 pm cst.

CONFIRMED CASES - 490,922
↑ 8% (+34,742 past 24 hrs)

DEATHS - 18,057
↑ 12% (+1,903 past 24 hrs)

RECOVERED - 27,612
↑ 11% (+2,797 past 24 hrs)

State breakdown:

NY 170,758 Cases 7844 Deaths - NY thru Illinois (9 states) account for appx 360,000 cases or 73%.
NJ 54,588 Cases 1932 Deaths - NY, NJ & MI account for appx 11,000 deaths or 61%.
MI 21,504 Cases 1076 Deaths - NY thru Illinois (9 States) account for appx. 14,000 deaths or 78%.
CA 20,345 Cases 552 Deaths
PA 20,051 Cases 418 Deaths
LA 19,253 Cases 755 Deaths
MA 18,941 Cases 503 Deaths
FL 17,531 Cases 390 Deaths
IL 16,424 Cases 529 Deaths
TX 11882 Cases 232 Deaths
GA 11485 Cases 416 Deaths
CT 9784 Cases 380 Deaths
WA 9755 Cases 457 Deaths
MD 6968 Cases 171 Deaths
IN 6907 Cases 300 Deaths
CO 6202 Cases 226 Deaths
OH 5878 Cases 231 Deaths
TN 4634 Cases 94 Deaths
VA 4509 Cases 121 Deaths
Other 4080 Cases 38 Deaths
NC 3963 Cases 83 Deaths
MO 3624 Cases 92 Deaths
AZ 3112 Cases 97 Deaths
WI 3015 Cases 121 Deaths
AL 2947 Cases 80 Deaths
SC 2793 Cases 67 Deaths
NV 2722 Cases 90 Deaths
MS 2469 Cases 82 Deaths
UT 1977 Cases 13 Deaths
OK 1794 Cases 88 Deaths
RI 1727 Cases 43 Deaths
DC 1660 Cases 38 Deaths
KY 1495 Cases 80 Deaths
IA 1388 Cases 31 Deaths
ID 1354 Cases 24 Deaths
MN 1336 Cases 57 Deaths
OR 1322 Cases 44 Deaths
DE 1209 Cases 23 Deaths
AR 1164 Cases 21 Deaths
KS 1117 Cases 42 Deaths
NM 989 Cases 17 Deaths
NH 819 Cases 21 Deaths
PR 725 Cases 39 Deaths
VT 679 Cases 24 Deaths
NE 635 Cases 15 Deaths
ME 586 Cases 17 Deaths
SD 536 Cases 6 Deaths
WV 536 Cases 5 Deaths
HI 442 Cases 6 Deaths
MT 365 Cases 6 Deaths
ND 278 Cases 6 Deaths
WY 239 Cases 0 Deaths
AK 235 Cases 7 Deaths
GU 130 Cases 4 Deaths
VI 50 Cases 1 Death
MP 11 Cases 2 Deaths


Sad.

Texican....
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
Trump was really going after Acosta about mask shortages and lack of testing, ppe etcTrump says there No shortages of any of this stuff anywhere in the USA and NO shortages of hospital beds or respirators also. Trump also stopped fausi from coming to the podium when dr. Brix yielded to fausi by walking up and saying two more questions. There is definitely something going on between Trump and fausi, even though Trump praises both him and brix. Trump says he has since many respirators he will send 10,000 to mexico or spain. I have no idea why Trump is saying everybody has everything they need.
 

Squid

Veteran Member

Cold or COVID-19? How to use a pulse oximeter to tell if your lungs are in trouble
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  • STEPHANIE ARNOLD
MARCH 18, 2020
COLD OR COVID-19? HOW TO USE A PULSE OXIMETER TO TELL IF YOUR LUNGS ARE IN TROUBLE

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About the author: Stephanie Arnold is an advanced practice nurse and educator working in the Los Angeles metro area.

We’ve gotten many questions from worried readers about how to tell the difference between a cold, allergies, flu, and other illnesses that come with coughing (and sometimes fever), and COVID-19. In the present circumstances and in response to pleas from health authorities in many areas to avoid running out to the hospital if you can, many people want to know if it’s possible to tell from home if and when they’re in real trouble and need emergency care.

We are not telling you to stay home if you’re sick — our advice is to contact your doctor. If you’ve been instructed to care for yourself at home, then a great way to get an indication that your problems are more serious than just a bad cold is to keep an eye on your blood oxygen levels.

Low blood oxygen is a sign that something’s wrong with your lungs. A bad viral pneumonia like COVID-19 can cause those levels to drop.

You can track your blood oxygen levels (and your heart rate) with a pulse oximeter of the kind we recommend in the home medical supplies list and in our COVID-19-specific medical kit — it’s easy, painless, and non-invasive, and inexpensive (under $20 for our main pick)."
I got one while prepping in Jan, figured if worse came to worse monitoring providing SO2 level might might be able to differentiate allergies/cold/other from Corona, also suggest have everyone in house get base levels and know both how to read and when to consider calling for med help.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
Every arrest or confrontation by the police is likely to result in further infections as public sector workers in their role are most likely to spread the virus.
I am glad to see my former Portland police chief Outlaw is proving to be as incompetent in Philly dealing with a crisis as she was dealing with antifa here. She is just a stupid female affirmative action hire. Doomer Doug can think of NO WAY to infect police faster than a semi Violent confrontation at 1 feet, on a crowded subway car. So, wait one to three weeks and Phili will have HUNDREDS of new cases. Yep, we are dealing with one STUPID BITCH HERE. What you do is put Plain clothes police there, follow them to their stop and THEN deal with them. Guess my aptly named outlaw chief wants to kill off all the blacks in philly.:apc::sheep:
 

Squid

Veteran Member
Trump was really going after Acosta about mask shortages and lack of testing, ppe etcTrump says there No shortages of any of this stuff anywhere in the USA and NO shortages of hospital beds or respirators also. Trump also stopped fausi from coming to the podium when dr. Brix yielded to fausi by walking up and saying two more questions. There is definitely something going on between Trump and fausi, even though Trump praises both him and brix. Trump says he has since many respirators he will send 10,000 to mexico or spain. I have no idea why Trump is saying everybody has everything they need.
It’s politics. If he or the administration says there are shortages of tongue depressors at Charlies walk in clinic and non Therapeutic massage in nowhere North Dakota the press creates headlines that all American’s will die tomorrow before noon.

It’s stupid but this is the danger and damage the Get Trump at all cost media and Investigate anyone who know’s Trump in demon party has created.

The media owns this! They will not truthfully report so information must be presented with the likely distortion in mind. If you want to assign blame please feel free to contact NY Times, Washington Pist, CNN, MSNBC and the rest of the usual suspects. And throw in all the Soro’s funded dweebs in their parents basements retweeting bad information or distorted headlines to move the cause forward.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat


Dead Bodies Pile up at Homes in Ecuador as Mortuary System Fails, Authorities Say Worst Yet to Come
  • AFP LAST UPDATED: APRIL 10, 2020, 10:02 AM IST fair use
Guayaquil: A fetid smell seeps out when an official dressed in full virus protection gear steps out of the door to the Los Ceibos hospital in Guayaquil, Ecuador.

Standing before him as he reads names from a list is a crowd of around 15 people wearing face masks and hoping their wait is over. It's an emotional scene. Some break down in tears as at last, after several days, they discover the body of their deceased loved one will be released. But for Isabel Hernandez, a 43-year-old mother of three, the wait is not over. "I last saw him when he was put on tubes, which was Friday" last week, she told AFP.

Her husband died on Sunday morning of the COVID-19 disease. Although a small country of 17.5 million people, Ecuador is the third worst-hit nation from the virus in Latin America, with nearly 5,000 cases and 272 deaths. Guayaquil, the largest city, is the center of the country's outbreak. Hernandez took two days to acquire the documentation she needs to release her husband's body. Amongst those was a death certificate that, due to the coronavirus outbreak, can now be downloaded from the internet.

A queue of cars topped by coffins forms in front of Los Ceibos. Hernandez is hoping her husband's hearse will have arrived by the time the official with the list next appears. "What I want is to take my husband away from here," she said through sobs.

For weeks, bodies were accumulating in homes following the collapse of the mortuary system, semi-paralyzed by Guayaquil's curfew. The treatment of the dead has led to many Ecuadorans losing trust in the government, which has set up a special force to recover bodies from homes, although no-one knows just how many there might be.

The port city of Guayaquil, with almost 2.7 million inhabitants, is the capital of Guayas province, which has reported 68 percent of Ecuador's coronavirus cases. Authorities say the worst is yet to come. Guayaquil is already overrun by the crisis.

In Los Ceibos, the city's largest hospital, the crisis is worsening. Videos that have gone viral on social media show containers filled with bodies covered in black plastic.

On the other side of the hospital, people in face masks wait, seemingly oblivious to the government's social distancing rules. Many are getting impatient sitting in seats provided by the hospital; they've been waiting for days for news.

Marlene Rivadeneira, an unemployed 53-year-old, is hoping for a miracle to save her 60-year-old sister Isabel, who was taken to the emergency room on Sunday directly from her prison cell where she was serving a five-year sentence over a traffic accident. She's afraid the body will be taken to a government-supplied niche, which she views as little more than a mass grave. She arrived at Los Ceibos with COVID-19 symptoms that subsequently worsened. "I don't know if she is going mad because she's seeing a lot of dead people," said Rivadeneira, who spoke to her sister by cellphone before her condition worsened.

"She's in the emergency room and that's where the critical ones are. She says they're not taking care of her but they are giving her oxygen." She said that while waiting she's seen at least 10 dead people brought out.

On March 19 Los Ceibos canceled doctor's appointments and moved out its most stable patients. Its 600 beds and 91 intensive care units are now dedicated to COVID-19 patients. Guayaquil's healthcare system is under intense pressure with hundreds of patients waiting in corridors and many doctors and nurses off work due to illness.

The government says at least 417 health workers have contracted the virus. In Guayas alone, 54 doctors have died since the outbreak of the virus, some directly affected and others indirectly because they couldn't receive treatment for other ailments.

Supplies are also running short. Pablo Matamoros, 51 and unemployed, took his mother to hospital on Sunday after having tried two other establishments that didn't have oxygen. His 72-year-old mother tested positive for the coronavirus in Los Ceibos and the level of oxygen in her blood is low. "The doctor told me... what could happen. Now they're going to fix her up to a tube," said Matamoros.
The third World, especially in places like Ecuador that have some technology (especially on smartphones) is where the world is really like to learn just how bad (or not) this virus really is and for how many people it is really bad when it gets out of control.

That's because while it is early days, there is a certain grim humor in the "models" being really low-ball so far compared to the predictions in places like the US and even in badly hit places like Italy - thousand have died there but not millions for example.

The grim humor is that if a country (sooner or later) goes into some form of "lock-down" or "staying-in," as Seattle did early on then the numbers seem to go way down (my old housemate commented on this and that was before the city realized they didn't need the military hospital).

But what we don't know (yet) is what this virus does when allowed to run unchecked in a new population that has only the most limited means and resources to deal with - obviously mass graves are a start, and we are not getting that many reports out of Africa yet, but so far Ecuador is scary enough.
 
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