WEATHER Hurricane Ike Daily Thread for Thursday/ 9-11-08

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buff

Deceased
As a NC veteran of too many canes to count, this right now is holding as a 100mph storm. cat 2. they say it may reach 3 before landfall..but...

there is no real discernible eye. it has not taken on the buzzsaw look. so at worst you are looking at a 2, but most probably a 1. If you live on a barrier island or in a very low lying area that floods in a thunderstorm then get out. If you live in a brick home or a strong sturdy wood frame that not prone to flooding you would be cool. I wouldn't run from this one...but thats me.
and my experiences with diana, bertha, fran, dennis, bonnie, floyd, isabel, charlie, and so may others i've forgotten their names.
HOWEVER, DO NOT STAY IN A MOBILE HOME.

this is only my opinion and what i would personally do if confronted by this particular storm. do not take my word and put yourself in danger. do what you feel is best for you.

good luck to all our members in the path.
 

bipshoft

Inactive
buff

I think you are missing the point regarding the size of the wind field as well as the storm surge

This is not a traditional East Coast storm

This is a monster with a huge storm surge that will be catastrophic
 

Jarhead

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URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED
HURRICANE IKE LOCAL STATEMENT...UPDATED
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CORPUS CHRISTI TX

809 PM CDT THU SEP 11 2008

...IKE THREATENS THE TEXAS COAST...

.AT 700 PM CDT...0000Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE IKE WAS LOCATED
NEAR LATITUDE 26.2 NORTH...LONGITUDE 89.9 WEST OR ABOUT
475 MILES...760 KM...EAST-SOUTHEAST OF CORPUS CHRISTI TEXAS AND
ABOUT 370 MILES... 595 KM...SOUTHEAST OF GALVESTON TEXAS.

IKE IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 12 MPH...19 KM/HR...
AND THIS MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT 24 HOURS...
WITH A TURN TO THE NORTHWEST EXPECTED LATE FRIDAY. ON THE
FORECAST TRACK...THE CENTER OF IKE WILL BE VERY NEAR THE UPPER
TEXAS COAST BY LATE FRIDAY. HOWEVER...BECAUSE IKE IS A VERY
LARGE TROPICAL CYCLONE...WEATHER WILL DETERIORATE ALONG THE
COASTLINE LONG BEFORE THE CENTER REACHES THE COAST.

THE LATEST MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE WAS 954 MB...28.17 INCHES.

GMZ230-235-250-255-270-275-120715-
/O.CON.KCRP.HU.W.0001.000000T0000Z-000000T0000Z/
BAYS AND WATERWAYS FROM BAFFIN BAY TO PORT ARANSAS-
BAYS AND WATERWAYS FROM PORT ARANSAS TO PORT O`CONNOR-
COASTAL WATERS BAFFIN BAY TO PORT ARANSAS OUT 20 NM-
COASTAL WATERS PORT ARANSAS TO MATAGORDA SHIP CHANNEL OUT 20 NM-
WATERS BAFFIN BAY TO PORT ARANSAS 20 TO 60 NM-
WATERS PORT ARANSAS TO MATAGORDA SHIP CHANNEL 20 TO 60 NM-
809 PM CDT THU SEP 11 2008

...HURRICANE WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT...

...NEW INFORMATION...

NO CHANGES HAVE OCCURRED.

...AREAS AFFECTED...

THIS STATEMENT RECOMMENDS ACTION TO BE TAKEN BY THOSE WITH INTERESTS
IN THE MIDDLE TEXAS COASTAL WATERS FROM PORT OCONNOR TO BAFFIN BAY.

...WATCHES/WARNINGS...

A HURRICANE WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE MIDDLE TEXAS COASTAL
WATERS FROM BAFFIN BAY TO PORT OCONNOR.

...PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

MARINERS SHOULD COMPLETE THEIR PREPARATIONS THIS EVENING. MAKE SURE
BOATS ARE SECURELY FASTENED AND ANY LOOSE OBJECTS ON DECK ARE STORED.
ALL CRAFT ARE ADVISED TO REMAIN IN PORT THROUGH THE WEEKEND.

...WINDS...

SUSTAINED TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO AFFECT THE
OFFSHORE WATERS ON FRIDAY MORNING. HURRICANE FORCE WIND GUSTS
WILL BE POSSIBLE FRIDAY NIGHT AND EARLY SATURDAY MORNING.

...PROBABILITY OF HURRICANE/TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS...

...NEXT UPDATE...

THE NEXT STATEMENT WILL BE ISSUED AROUND 1100 PM CDT.

$$
 

baw

Inactive
BAW said

HAVE THEY? The last I'd heard they thought it was "too late" to fully evacuate and were asking people to let the highest needs folks (elderly and disabled) get out first.

I've posted this a couple places. I've had a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach and "Galveston island" in my head for three days now... long before the models had it heading anywhere near there. I think I posted that yesterday morning somewhere. I'm no prophet for sure, but I was thankful it looked like I was just crazy... then I come on here this evening after a few hours away and the damned storm looks like it's going to track right over it. Damn!

Prayers for God's mercy on the people in harm's way.

Summerthyme

I literally breathed a sigh of relief when I heard of the mandatory evacuation of the island. And that they, before Houston, had priority to the hiway.

Only the fools will stay behind.
 

Jarhead

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buff

I think you are missing the point regarding the size of the wind field as well as the storm surge

This is not a traditional East Coast storm

This is a monster with a huge storm surge that will be catastrophic

Correct! Don't screw around with this one.

Jarhead
:usm:
 

Jarhead

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000
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URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED
HURRICANE IKE LOCAL STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HOUSTON/GALVESTON TX

819 PM CDT THU SEP 11 2008

...IKE CONTINUES TO MOVE TOWARD SOUTHEAST TEXAS AT 12 MPH...

.AT 700 PM CDT THE CENTER OF HURRICANE IKE WAS LOCATED
NEAR LATITUDE 26.2 NORTH AND LONGITUDE 89.9 WEST OR ABOUT
ABOUT 370 MILES SOUTHEAST OF GALVESTON TEXAS.

IKE IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 12 MPH AND THIS
MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT 24 HOURS WITH A
TURN TO THE NORTHWEST EXPECTED LATE FRIDAY. ON THIS FORECAST
TRACK THE CENTER OF IKE WILL BE VERY NEAR THE UPPER TEXAS
COAST BY LATE FRIDAY. BECAUSE IKE IS A VERY LARGE TROPICAL
CYCLONE THE WEATHER WILL DETERIORATE ALONG THE COASTLINE LONG
BEFORE THE CENTER REACHES THE COAST.

DATA FROM BOTH NOAA AND AIR FORCE HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT
INDICATE THAT MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS REMAIN NEAR 100 MPH
WITH HIGHER GUSTS. IKE IS A CATEGORY TWO HURRICANE
ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE BUT MAY BECOME A MAJOR HURRICANE
PRIOR TO REACHING THE COASTLINE.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 115 MILES FROM THE
CENTER AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 275
MILES.

THE LATEST MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE MEASURED BY THE AIR FORCE
HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT HAD RISEN TO 954 MB OR 28.17 INCHES
OF MERCURY.


GMZ330-335-350-355-370-375-130130-
/O.CON.KHGX.HU.W.0001.000000T0000Z-000000T0000Z/
GALVESTON BAY-MATAGORDA BAY-
WATERS FROM FREEPORT TO THE MATAGORDA SHIP CHANNEL 20 NM TO 60 NM-
WATERS FROM FREEPORT TO THE MATAGORDA SHIP CHANNEL OUT 20 NM-
WATERS FROM HIGH ISLAND TO FREEPORT 20 TO 60 NM-
WATERS FROM HIGH ISLAND TO FREEPORT OUT 20 NM-
819 PM CDT THU SEP 11 2008

...HURRICANE WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT...

...NEW INFORMATION...

.AT 700 PM CDT THE CENTER OF HURRICANE IKE WAS LOCATED
NEAR LATITUDE 26.2 NORTH AND LONGITUDE 89.9 WEST OR ABOUT
ABOUT 370 MILES SOUTHEAST OF GALVESTON TEXAS.

...AREAS AFFECTED...

THIS STATEMENT RECOMMENDS ACTIONS TO BE TAKEN BY PERSONS IN THE
FOLLOWING COUNTIES OR MARINE AREAS:

GALVESTON BAY...MATAGORDA BAY...WATERS FROM FREEPORT TO THE
MATAGORDA SHIP CHANNEL 20 NM TO 60 NM...WATERS FROM FREEPORT TO
THE MATAGORDA SHIP CHANNEL OUT 20 NM...WATERS FROM HIGH ISLAND
TO FREEPORT 20 TO 60 NM...WATERS FROM HIGH ISLAND TO FREEPORT
OUT 20 NM.

...WATCHES/WARNINGS...

NO ADDITIONAL HAZARDS ARE IN EFFECT.

...PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

MARINERS SHOULD BE COMPLETING PREPARATIONS FOR THE PASSAGE OF A
MAJOR HURRICANE THROUGH THE TEXAS COASTAL WATERS. A HURRICANE
WARNING IS NOW IN EFFECT. PREPARATIONS SHOULD BE RUSHED TO
COMPLETION.

...WINDS...

TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO BEGIN AFFECTING THE
20 TO 60 NAUTICAL MILE WATERS LATE TONIGHT...THE NEARSHORE WATERS
MID MORNING FRIDAY...AND THE BAYS BY MIDDAY FRIDAY. HURRICANE
FORCE WINDS OF 70 TO 100 KNOTS WILL REACH THE COASTAL WATERS LATE
FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND PERSIST THROUGH EARLY SATURDAY.

SWELLS ASSOCIATED WITH HURRICANE IKE ARE ALREADY AFFECTING THE
COASTAL WATERS. SEAS ARE RUNNING 6 TO 8 FEET NEARSHORE...10 TO 15
FEET OFFSHORE. SEAS WILL CONTINUE INCREASING THROUGH FRIDAY. SEAS
WILL PEAK AT 15 TO 35 FEET FRIDAY NIGHT.

...TORNADOES...

WATERSPOUTS ARE POSSIBLE FRIDAY THROUGH SATURDAY AS IKE PASSES
THROUGH.

...NEXT UPDATE...

THIS STATEMENT WILL BE UPDATED AROUND 11 PM.



$$
 

SassyinAZ

Inactive
As a NC veteran of too many canes to count, this right now is holding as a 100mph storm. cat 2. they say it may reach 3 before landfall..but...

there is no real discernible eye. it has not taken on the buzzsaw look. so at worst you are looking at a 2, but most probably a 1. If you live on a barrier island or in a very low lying area that floods in a thunderstorm then get out. If you live in a brick home or a strong sturdy wood frame that not prone to flooding you would be cool. I wouldn't run from this one...but thats me.
and my experiences with diana, bertha, fran, dennis, bonnie, floyd, isabel, charlie, and so may others i've forgotten their names.
HOWEVER, DO NOT STAY IN A MOBILE HOME.

this is only my opinion and what i would personally do if confronted by this particular storm. do not take my word and put yourself in danger. do what you feel is best for you.

good luck to all our members in the path.

Category 2 Ike is larger and more powerful than Katrina

Posted by: JeffMasters, 11:32 AM EDT on September 11

Hurricane Ike's winds remain at Category 2 strength, but Ike is a freak storm with extreme destructive storm surge potential.

Ike's pressure fell rapidly last night to 944 mb, but the hurricane did not respond to the pressure change by increasing its maximum winds in the eyewall. Instead, Ike responded by increasing the velocity of its winds away from the eyewall, over a huge stretch of the Gulf of Mexico.

Another very unusual feature of Ike is the fact that the surface winds are much slower than the winds being measured aloft by the Hurricane Hunters. Winds at the surface may only be at Category 1 strength, even though Ike has a central pressure characteristic of a Category 3 or 4 storm. This very unusual structure makes forecasting the future intensity of Ike nearly impossible.

The possibilities range from a Category 1 storm at landfall--as predicted by the HWRF model--to a Category 4 storm at landfall, as predicted by the GFDL.

Ike is now larger than Katrina was, both in its radius of tropical storm force winds--275 miles--and in it radius of hurricane force winds--115 miles.

For comparison, Katrina's tropical storm and hurricane force winds extended out 230 and 105 miles, respectively. Ike's huge wind field has put an extraordinarily large volume of ocean water in motion.

When this swirling column of water hits the shallow waters of the Continental Shelf, it will be be forced up into a large storm surge which will probably rival the massive storm surge of Hurricane Carla of 1961.

Carla was a Category 4 hurricane with 145 mph winds at landfall, and drove a 10 foot or higher storm surge to a 180-mile stretch of Texas coast. A maximum storm surge of 22 feet was recorded at Port Lavaca, Texas.

Despite the fact that the center of Carla hit over 120 miles southwest of Houston, the hurricane drove a 15-foot storm surge into the bays along the south side of the city.

I don't expect Ike will reach Category 4 strength, thus its maximum surge is not likely to reach the extreme values above 20 feet seen in Hurricane Carla.

Like Carla, though, Ike will probably inundate a 180-mile stretch of Texas coast from Port O'Connor to just north of Galveston with a 10-15 foot storm surge. This will occur even if Ike is a Category 1 storm at landfall.


The latest experimental storm surge forecast From NOAA's SLOSH model (Figure 1) shows a 10% chance that Ike's storm surge will exceed 15-21 feet at Galveston. The Galveston sea wall is 17 feet high, so may get overtopped.

The amount of water Ike has put in motion is about 50% greater than what Katrina did, and thus we can expect Ike's storm surge damage will be similar to or greater than Katrina's.

The way we can estimate this damage potential is to compute the total energy of Ike's surface winds (kinetic energy). To do this, we must look at how strong the winds are, and factor in the areal coverage of these winds.

Thus, we compute the Integrated Kinetic Energy (IKE) by squaring the velocity of the wind and summing over all regions of the hurricane with tropical storm force winds or higher.

This "Integrated Kinetic Energy" was recently proposed by Dr. Mark Powell of NOAA's Hurricane Research Division as a better measure of the destructive power of a hurricane's storm surge than the usual Category 1-5 Saffir-Simpson scale.

For example, Hurricane Katrina hit Mississippi as a strong Category 3 hurricane, yet its storm surge was more characteristic of a Category 5 storm.

Dr. Powell came up with a new scale to rate potential storm surge damage based on IKE (not to be confused with Hurricane Ike!) The new scale ranges from 1-6. Katrina and Wilma at their peaks both earned a 5.1 on this scale (Figure 2). At 9:30am EDT this morning, Ike earned a 5.6 on this scale, the highest kinetic energy of any Atlantic storm in the past 40 years.

And, he's still strengthening!

Looks sorta dejavu-ish those peeps in Galveston on the tube, unconcerned, waving, strolling on by...
 

Jarhead

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Crown Weather Services
Tropical Weather Discussion
Issued: Thursday, September 11, 2008 700 pm EDT

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hurricane Ike remains a very large and dangerous Category 2 hurricane this evening. Ike's current position is 26.0 North Latitude, 89.4 West Longitude. Maximum sustained winds are near 100 mph. The central pressure is 950 millibars. Ike's tiny 9-mile wide eye appears to be collapsing, which will allow a new eyewall of much larger-diameter to form. This event should allow Ike to start intensifying tonight.
The latest Tropical Cyclone Heat Potential image shows that the center of Ike has just finished crossing a cold eddy in the Gulf of Mexico waters, and is now beginning to pass along the north side of a warm eddy. This change in oceanic heat should also help allow Ike to intensify tonight.
Oceanic heat content remains moderately high after Ike crosses the eddy, which should allow some additional strengthening to continue. Wind shear of 10-15 knots and this wind shear should decrease to 5 knots by the time of landfall Saturday morning.

So, at this point, it appears Ike will make landfall somewhere between Freeport and Galveston as a Category 3 hurricane with around 120 to 130 mph winds around 2 am EDT/1 am CDT or so early Saturday morning.

All of this energy is also going into the waves in the Gulf of Mexico, and the offshore oil rigs can expect to receive one hell of a battering. At 1:50pm CDT, waves at the buoy 42001 180nm south of Louisiana peaked at 30 feet. It should be noted that the National Hurricane Center is predicting Ike's waves will peak at 50 feet in the northern Gulf on Friday.

According to the NOAA tide gauges, the storm surge along the Mississippi coast have peaked at 4 feet above normal, and are currently running 5 feet above normal on the east side of New Orleans. A storm surge of 5.9 feet was observed in New Orleans' Industrial Canal at 10:45 am CDT, and 5.75 feet in Waveland, Mississippi. Coastal Alabama is reporting a 4 to 6 foot storm surge, with 10 to 15 foot waves. Considering the center of Ike is over 250 miles south of these locations, it is very likely that the Texas coast will receive a 15 to 20 foot storm surge, even if Ike does not strengthen.

Ike will probably inundate a 250-mile stretch of the Texas coast from Port O' Connor to the Louisiana border with a 10 to 15 foot storm surge. This will occur even if Ike is a Category 1 storm at landfall. If Ike does intensify to a Category 3 or higher hurricane at landfall, storm surges of 20 feet or more are likely.

Tide levels will begin rising Friday morning and will exceed 5 feet above normal along the Upper Texas coast and along the shorelines of the bays by mid to late morning Friday. Water levels will rise rapidly beginning during the late afternoon hours of Friday as the storm surge moves in with water levels peaking Friday night and early Saturday morning.

Maximum Storm Surge Forecast:
Gulf-facing coastline west of Sargent, including Matagorda Bay: 6 to 12 feet.
Gulf-facing coastline from Sargent to Sabine Pass, including High Island, Freeport, and Galveston Island: 15 to 21 feet.
Shoreline of Galveston Bay: 15 to 25 feet with 27 feet possible on the northwest side of the head of Galveston Bay.

Life threatening storm surge flooding is likely!!!

All neighborhoods and possibly entire coastal communities will be severely flooded during the period of peak storm surge. Persons not heeding evacuation orders in single family one or two story homes will face life threatening flooding and may loose their life. Many residences of average construction directly on the coast will be destroyed. Widespread and devastating personal property damage is likely elsewhere. Vehicles left behind will likely be swept away by the water. Numerous roads will be swamped, some may be washed away by the water. Entire flood prone coastal communities will be cutoff. Water levels may exceed 9 feet for more than a mile inland. Coastal residents in multi-story facilities risk being cutoff. Conditions will be worsened by battering waves. Such waves will exacerbate property damage, with massive destruction of homes, including those of block construction.

For storm surge evacuation zone information, consult the Texas Division of Emergency Management.

Wind Forecast:

Persons who have not evacuated should plan to shelter in place in a well built structure during the period of tropical storm force winds. It is imperative that persons who live in mobile homes or poorly-built structures should evacuate to a safer location such as a well built home. Persons who live in high rises should consider evacuating as winds can be much stronger at the top of a high rise than at ground level.

Tropical storm force winds in excess of 40 mph are expected to reach the coast of Texas during Friday morning and spread inland to the Houston area by mid-afternoon Friday. Winds of at least tropical storm force will then last for up to 24 to 30 hours straight.

Hurricane force winds will reach the Texas coast during Friday evening and then the Houston Metro area around midnight Friday night. Hurricane force winds will then last for up to 12 hours straight.
Peak wind gusts of 100 to 115 mph is forecast across Harris, Liberty, Brazoria, Galveston and Chambers counties. Wind speeds in excess of 115 mph will be possible near where the center of the storm ultimately comes onshore.

Structural damage will include the majority of mobile homes being severely damaged or destroyed. Those that survive will be uninhabitable until repaired. Houses of poor to average construction will have major damage, including partial wall collapse and roofs being lifted off. Many will be uninhabitable. Well constructed houses will incur minor damage to shingles, siding, gutters, as well as blown out windows. Up to one quarter of gabled roofs will fail.
Partial roof failure is expected at Industrial Parks, especially to those buildings with light weight steel and aluminum coverings. Older low rising apartment roofs may also be torn off, as well as receiving siding and shingle damage. Up to one quarter of all glass in high rise office buildings will be blown out.
Airborne debris will cause damage, injury and possible fatalities.
Natural damage will include all trees with rotting bases becoming uprooted or snapped. Nearly all large branches will snap. Between one quarter and one half of healthy small to medium sized trees will be snapped or uprooted, most common where the ground is saturated. Up to three quarters of newly planted ground crops will be damaged.

Inland Flooding:
Widespread rainfall of 2 to 4 inches with isolated rainfall totals of up to 10 inches will be possible along the path of Ike. Significant river and stream flooding is possible in areas of heaviest rainfall.
Tornado Threat:
The threat for tornadoes will increase rapidly beginning late Friday and continue through late Saturday as Ike moves onshore. You should plan to seek shelter in an interior room on the lowest floor away from windows.

This is a very large hurricane in overall size. Tropical storm force winds extend outward up to 275 miles from the center of the storm and hurricane force winds extend outward up to 120 miles from the center of the storm. Ike's very strong winds, heavy rainfall and the threat for tornadoes will extend well inland due to the hurricane's accelerating speed at landfall. Damaging hurricane force winds are possible as far inland as 150 to 200 miles from the coast. Areas inland roughly along and east of Interstate 45 and north of Interstate 10 up to 150 to 200 miles inland will experience hurricane force winds.
Tropical storm force winds will likely extend inland to Dallas and quite possibly into southeastern Oklahoma.

In conclusion, this is a VERY DANGEROUS hurricane. A Category 3 hurricane is forecast to make landfall on the Texas coast between Freeport and Galveston around 2 am EDT/1 am CDT or so early Saturday morning. Residents under evacuation orders, please complete your preparations and leave tonight!!
This is a very serious hurricane threat. A large and destructive storm surge will cross the middle and upper Texas coast. Failure to evacuate may result in loss of life.
The next update on Hurricane Ike will be issued by 7 am EDT/6 am CDT Friday morning.

Prepared by Rob Lightbown, Crown Weather Services
 

Jarhead

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URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED
HURRICANE IKE INTERMEDIATE LOCAL STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BROWNSVILLE TX

829 PM CDT THU SEP 11 2008

...TROPICAL STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR KENEDY COUNTY...

.AT 700 PM...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE IKE WAS LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE
26.2 NORTH...LONGITUDE 89.9 WEST OR ABOUT 475 MILES EAST SOUTHEAST
OF CORPUS CHRISTI TEXAS AND ABOUT 370 MILES SOUTHEAST OF GALVESTON
TEXAS.

IKE IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST NORTHWEST NEAR 12 MPH AND THIS MOTION
IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT 24 HOURS WITH A TURN TO THE
NORTHWEST EXPECTED LATE FRIDAY. ON THE FORECAST TRACK...THE CENTER
OF IKE WILL BE VERY NEAR THE UPPER TEXAS COAST BY LATE FRIDAY.
HOWEVER...BECAUSE IKE IS A VERY LARGE TROPICAL CYCLONE... WEATHER
WILL DETERIORATE ALONG THE COASTLINE LONG BEFORE THE CENTER
REACHES THE COAST.

DATA FROM BOTH NOAA AND AIR FORCE HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT
INDICATE THAT MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS REMAIN NEAR 100 MPH WITH
HIGHER GUSTS. IKE IS A CATEGORY TWO HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR
SIMPSON SCALE...BUT IS FORECAST TO BECOME A MAJOR HURRICANE PRIOR
TO REACHING THE COASTLINE.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 115 MILES FROM THE
CENTER AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 275
MILES.

THE LATEST MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE MEASURED BY THE AIR FORCE
HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT WAS 954 MILLIBARS...OR 28.17 INCHES.

GMZ135-155-175-120430-
/O.CON.KBRO.TR.W.0002.000000T0000Z-000000T0000Z/
/O.CON.KBRO.HU.A.0002.000000T0000Z-000000T0000Z/
LAGUNA MADRE FROM 5 NM NORTH OF PORT MANSFIELD TO BAFFIN BAY TX-
COASTAL WATERS FROM BAFFIN BAY TO PORT MANSFIELD OUT 20 NM-
WATERS FROM BAFFIN BAY TO PORT MANSFIELD EXTENDING FROM 20 TO
60 NM-
829 PM CDT THU SEP 11 2008

...TROPICAL STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT...
...HURRICANE WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT...

...AREAS AFFECTED...

THIS STATEMENT RECOMMENDS ACTIONS TO BE TAKEN BY PERSONS IN...
THE LOWER TEXAS GULF WATERS AND THE LAGUNA MADRE NORTH OF PORT
MANSFIELD.

...WINDS...

SUSTAINED TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO MOVE INTO
THE LOWER TEXAS GULF AND BAY WATERS EAST OF KENEDY COUNTY
STARTING FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING WITH THESE CONDITIONS
PERSISTING INTO SATURDAY MORNING...AND EVENTUALLY DIMINISHING ON
LATE SATURDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING. ISOLATED WIND GUSTS UP TO
HURRICANE FORCE ARE ALSO POSSIBLE FROM FRIDAY EVENING THROUGH
SATURDAY MORNING. SMALL CRAFT SHOULD REMAIN IN PORT BEGINNING
THURSDAY NIGHT.

...PROBABILITY OF HURRICANE/TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS...

THE PROBABILITY OF TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS FOR THE LOWER
TEXAS BAY AND GULF WATERS EAST OF KENEDY COUNTY WILL RANGE FROM
20 TO 40 PERCENT FROM FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING THROUGH
SATURDAY MORNING. THE PROBABILITY OF HURRICANE FORCE WINDS FOR
THIS SAME AREA AND TIME PERIOD WILL BE LESS THAN 5 PERCENT.

...NEXT UPDATE...

THIS STATEMENT WILL BE UPDATED AROUND 11 PM TONIGHT.

$$
 

bipshoft

Inactive
Jarhead,

Thanks for all your great reporting

I am just hoping that people will start understanding that the category of this storm is irrelevant due to its immense size

What really matters is its size and the amount of water it has stirred up in the Gulf

The size of the hurricane/tropical force winds is incredible as well as the the storm surge that the Texas coast will experience is the key

I wish all in its path the best

-bips
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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"Diana Acevedo said she and her family considered leaving their double-wide trailer, but they had called around and it was too late to find a place to stay. Looking out at a rickety swingset and tricycle in the front yard, Acevedo said they would pick up loose items today and perhaps board windows like some of her neighbors."

She is staying in a trailer and will MAYBE board her windows? She has NO idea.... Well, I suppose if the trailer is gone, she won't have wasted time boarding the windows if she just blows it off. This woman has clearly never experienced and major hurricane. :whistle:

Some of these folks do NOT have a clue!

Then there's this gem:
Bingo Cosby, owner of a surf shop in Surfside Beach, said Wednesday that he planned to ride out the blow. "I'm going to go upstairs above my shop with my two guns and protect my property," he said.

"Besides, the storm isn't coming here," he said confidently. "I went out on the jetty last night and prayed that it would just turn around."

And I guess if the storm DOESN'T "turn around", he'll shoot it... thereby "protecting his property"... which is probably going to be floating in the waves somewhere inland.

Holy cow! Where do they FIND these folks? And how have they survived this long, anyway?:shr:

I think what bothers me the most is that these same morons will end up risking the lives of emergency services personnel when they find out that they had absolutely no concept of the power of one of these storms. And, naturally, if the emergency folks can't get to them, their survivors will be screaming bloody murder, and complaining about discrimination (and I don't care what color they are... they'll find a reason). Sigh...

Stay safe, guys.

Summerthyme
 

Jarhead

Has No Life - Lives on TB
000
WTUS84 KMOB 120158
HLSMOB

URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED
HURRICANE IKE INTERMEDIATE LOCAL STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOBILE AL

858 PM CDT THU SEP 11 2008

...TROPICAL STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FOR THE COASTAL WATERS FROM
PENSACOLA FL TO PASCAGOULA MS FROM 20 TO 60 NM...

.AT 700 PM CDT...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE IKE WAS LOCATED NEAR
LATITUDE 26.2 NORTH...LONGITUDE 89.9 WEST OR ABOUT 475 MILES EAST-
SOUTHEAST OF CORPUS CHRISTI TEXAS AND ABOUT 370 MILES SOUTHEAST OF
GALVESTON TEXAS.

IKE IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 12 MPH AND THIS MOTION
IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT 24 HOURS...WITH A TURN TO THE
NORTHWEST EXPECTED LATE FRIDAY. ON THE FORECAST TRACK...THE CENTER OF
IKE WILL BE VERY NEAR THE UPPER TEXAS COAST BY LATE FRIDAY.
HOWEVER...BECAUSE IKE IS A VERY LARGE TROPICAL CYCLONE...WEATHER WILL
DETERIORATE ALONG THE COASTLINE LONG BEFORE THE CENTER REACHES THE
COAST.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS REMAIN NEAR 100 MPH WITH HIGHER GUSTS. IKE IS
A CATEGORY TWO HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE...BUT IS
FORECAST TO BECOME A MAJOR HURRICANE PRIOR TO REACHING THE COASTLINE.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 115 MILES FROM THE
CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 275
MILES.

THE LATEST MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE MEASURED BY THE AIR FORCE
HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT WAS 954 MB...28.17 INCHES.

GMZ670-120900-
/O.CON.KMOB.TR.W.0001.000000T0000Z-000000T0000Z/
WATERS FROM PENSACOLA FL TO PASCAGOULA MS FROM 20 TO 60 NM-
858 PM CDT THU SEP 11 2008

...TROPICAL STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT...

...NEW INFORMATION...

LARGE HURRICANE IKE CONTINUES TO MOVE SLOWLY THROUGH THE CENTRAL GULF
OF MEXICO.

...AREAS AFFECTED...

COASTAL WATERS FROM PENSACOLA FLORIDA TO PASCAGOULA MISSISSIPPI FROM
20 TO 60 NM.

...WATCHES/WARNINGS...

TROPICAL STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT.

...STORM INFORMATION...

.AT 700 PM CDT...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE IKE WAS LOCATED NEAR
LATITUDE 26.2 NORTH...LONGITUDE 89.9 WEST OR ABOUT 475 MILES EAST-
SOUTHEAST OF CORPUS CHRISTI TEXAS AND ABOUT 370 MILES SOUTHEAST OF
GALVESTON TEXAS.

IKE IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 12 MPH AND THIS MOTION
IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT 24 HOURS...WITH A TURN TO THE
NORTHWEST EXPECTED LATE FRIDAY. ON THE FORECAST TRACK...THE CENTER OF
IKE WILL BE VERY NEAR THE UPPER TEXAS COAST BY LATE FRIDAY.
HOWEVER...BECAUSE IKE IS A VERY LARGE TROPICAL CYCLONE...WEATHER WILL
DETERIORATE ALONG THE COASTLINE LONG BEFORE THE CENTER REACHES THE
COAST.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS REMAIN NEAR 100 MPH WITH HIGHER GUSTS. IKE IS
A CATEGORY TWO HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE...BUT IS
FORECAST TO BECOME A MAJOR HURRICANE PRIOR TO REACHING THE COASTLINE.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 115 MILES FROM THE
CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 275
MILES.

THE LATEST MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE MEASURED BY THE AIR FORCE
HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT WAS 954 MB...28.17 INCHES.

...PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

BOATERS ARE URGED TO REMAIN IN PORT.

...WINDS...

EASTERLY TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS WILL SHIFT TO THE SOUTHEAST
TONIGHT.

...WAVES...

SEAS ARE CURRENTLY 20 TO 25 FEET...AND COULD BUILD AS HIGH AS 23 TO
28 FEET.

...NEXT UPDATE...

THE NEXT HURRICANE LOCAL STATEMENT WILL BE ISSUED FROM THE NATIONAL
WEATHER SERVICE FORECAST OFFICE IN MOBILE AROUND 1 AM CDT.

$$
 

buff

Deceased
I am just hoping that people will start understanding that the category of this storm is irrelevant due to its immense size

What really matters is its size and the amount of water it has stirred up in the Gulf

which is why i stated clearly if you are on a barrier island or a low lying flood prone area get out.

the problem with this will be water. not wind....while the winds will be strong, they will not be the major factor. I also advised that any one in a mobile home get out as well. the major problem will be water...

I know you all love the doom end of the world thing, but i'm just injecting my thoughts having been through about 15-20 direct hits...

even though they might have been as you put it..."east coast storms"...like that matters.

the "east coast storms" i've been through have been solidly rocking and rolling. but remember its the water that kills people more than the wind.
 
Jarhead,

What really matters is its size and the amount of water it has stirred up in the Gulf

-bips

Exactly, what we have is a very large portion of the ocean, in the form of heavy water vapor pushed by high winds which will empty out over our heads. In buckets of immense porportion, not quite of tsunami quantity, but not far off in destruction.

By the way Jarhead, we owe you greatly for your time and concern, you rock.

DD
 

Laurane

Canadian Loonie
On CNN....about 8pm.....

Anderson Cooper was interviewing Paul Tugman on Galveston Island, and Tugman said they had been telling people to get out as they talked to them on the beach, at stores and restaurants.

If they haven't left yet, it may be too late. It may be a mandatory evac. but some people haven't heard that news, or choose to ignore it.

I suppose Tugman will get out by helicopter, but he had better not leave it too long either - this may be the worst disaster since Katrina, with the high tides.
 

baw

Inactive
Good Luck Bingo Cosby!!

Give Ike a big hug for me...​







:crtmn:


see ya on the other side...
 
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baw

Inactive
which is why i stated clearly if you are on a barrier island or a low lying flood prone area get out.

the problem with this will be water. not wind....while the winds will be strong, they will not be the major factor. I also advised that any one in a mobile home get out as well. the major problem will be water...

I know you all love the doom end of the world thing, but i'm just injecting my thoughts having been through about 15-20 direct hits...

even though they might have been as you put it..."east coast storms"...like that matters.

the "east coast storms" i've been through have been solidly rocking and rolling. but remember its the water that kills people more than the wind.


+1
 

Jarhead

Has No Life - Lives on TB
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WTUS84 KSHV 120230
HLSSHV

URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED
HURRICANE LOCAL STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SHREVEPORT LA

930 PM CDT THU SEP 11 2008

...HURRICANE IKE MAY MOVE OVER NORTHEAST TEXAS FRIDAY NIGHT AND
SATURDAY...

.AT 700 PM CDT...0000Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE IKE WAS LOCATED NEAR
LATITUDE 26.2 NORTH...LONGITUDE 89.9 WEST OR ABOUT 475 MILES...760
KM...EAST-SOUTHEAST OF CORPUS CHRISTI TEXAS AND ABOUT 370 MILES...
595 KM...SOUTHEAST OF GALVESTON TEXAS.

IKE IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 12 MPH...AND THIS
MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT 24 HOURS...WITH A TURN
TO THE NORTHWEST EXPECTED LATE FRIDAY. ON THE FORECAST TRACK...THE
CENTER OF IKE WILL BE VERY NEAR THE UPPER TEXAS COAST BY LATE
FRIDAY. HOWEVER...BECAUSE IKE IS A VERY LARGE TROPICAL
CYCLONE...WEATHER WILL DETERIORATE ALONG THE COASTLINE LONG BEFORE
THE CENTER REACHES THE COAST.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS REMAIN NEAR 100 MPH...WITH HIGHER GUSTS.
IKE IS A CATEGORY TWO HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR- SIMPSON SCALE...BUT
IS FORECAST TO BECOME A MAJOR HURRICANE PRIOR TO REACHING THE
COASTLINE.

IKE REMAINS A VERY LARGE TROPICAL CYCLONE. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS
EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 115 MILES...FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL
STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 275 MILES.

THE LATEST MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE ESTIMATED FROM AIRCRAFT
RECONNAISSANCE DATA IS 954 MB.

TXZ149-152-165>167-120930-
/O.CON.KSHV.HI.A.0001.080913T0000Z-080914T0900Z/
CHEROKEE-NACOGDOCHES-ANGELINA-SAN AUGUSTINE-SABINE TX-
930 PM CDT THU SEP 11 2008

...HURRICANE WIND WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM FRIDAY EVENING
THROUGH LATE SATURDAY NIGHT...

...NEW INFORMATION...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HAS ISSUED A HURRICANE WIND WATCH
FOR PART OF DEEP EAST TEXAS FOR FRIDAY NIGHT...SATURDAY...AND
SATURDAY NIGHT.

...AREAS AFFECTED...

THE WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR CHEROKEE...NACOGDOCHES...ANGELINA...
SAN AUGUSTINE...AND SABINE COUNTIES IN TEXAS.

...WATCHES/WARNINGS...

A HURRICANE WIND WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR FRIDAY NIGHT...
SATURDAY...AND SATURDAY NIGHT.

...STORM INFORMATION...

AT 700 PM CDT...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE IKE WAS LOCATED NEAR
LATITUDE 26.2 NORTH...LONGITUDE 89.9 WEST OR ABOUT 475 MILES...EAST-
SOUTHEAST OF CORPUS CHRISTI TEXAS AND ABOUT 370 MILES...SOUTHEAST
OF GALVESTON TEXAS. IKE IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST NORTHWEST NEAR
12 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 100 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL
PRESSURE IS 954 MB.

...WINDS...

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS MAY OCCUR LATE FRIDAY NIGHT...SATURDAY...
AND SATURDAY EVENING IN THE WATCH AREA. THIS MEANS WINDS OF 60 TO
75 WITH GUSTS TO NEAR 90 MILES AN HOUR COULD OCCUR AT TIMES.

...INLAND FLOODING...

FLASH FLOODING WILL BE POSSIBLE FRIDAY NIGHT...SATURDAY...AND
SATURDAY NIGHT...AS THE MOISTURE FROM HURRICAN IKE MOVES NORTHEAST
ACROSS THE FOUR STATE AREA.

...TORNADOES...

ISOLATED TORNADOES COULD OCCUR OVER EAST AND NORTHEAST TEXAS...
AND NORTH LOUISIANA AS HURRICANE IKE MOVES OVER THE AREA FRIDAY
NIGHT...THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT.

...NEXT UPDATE...

THE NEXT STATEMENT WILL BE ISSUED AROUND 430 AM CDT.

$$
 
:bkg:

News bulletin in from CNN:
"People sheltering at ground level at Galveston Bay when Hurricane Ike hits face "certain death," the weather service warns."

Not mincing words.

Full story here: http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/weather/09/11/hurricane.ike.texas/index.html


Here is the full statement. It's pretty long, so I only copied the section where the quote comes from....
http://forecast.weather.gov/showsig...lace1=Dickinson+TX&product1=Hurricane+Warning

ALL NEIGHBORHOODS...AND POSSIBLY ENTIRE COASTAL COMMUNITIES...
WILL BE INUNDATED DURING THE PERIOD OF PEAK STORM TIDE. PERSONS
NOT HEEDING EVACUATION ORDERS IN SINGLE FAMILY ONE OR TWO STORY
HOMES WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH.
MANY RESIDENCES OF AVERAGE
CONSTRUCTION DIRECTLY ON THE COAST WILL BE DESTROYED. WIDESPREAD
AND DEVASTATING PERSONAL PROPERTY DAMAGE IS LIKELY ELSEWHERE.
VEHICLES LEFT BEHIND WILL LIKELY BE SWEPT AWAY. NUMEROUS ROADS
WILL BE SWAMPED...SOME MAY BE WASHED AWAY BY THE WATER. ENTIRE
FLOOD PRONE COASTAL COMMUNITIES WILL BE CUTOFF. WATER LEVELS MAY
EXCEED 9 FEET FOR MORE THAN A MILE INLAND. COASTAL RESIDENTS IN
MULTI-STORY FACILITIES RISK BEING CUTOFF. CONDITIONS WILL BE
WORSENED BY BATTERING WAVES. SUCH WAVES WILL EXACERBATE PROPERTY
DAMAGE...WITH MASSIVE DESTRUCTION OF HOMES...INCLUDING THOSE OF
BLOCK CONSTRUCTION. DAMAGE FROM BEACH EROSION COULD TAKE YEARS TO
REPAIR.
 

SassyinAZ

Inactive
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Anyone know where Anderson Cooper and Jim Cantore (TWC) will be staying the next 48 hours? I figured either the Galvez or San Luis. The mayor usually stays in the Galvez during these storms. The San Luis is beautiful, I've stayed there several times, but it's not as much a $h!t brickhouse as the Galvez.
 

gisgaia

Veteran Member
Anyone know where Anderson Cooper and Jim Cantore (TWC) will be staying the next 48 hours? I figured either the Galvez or San Luis. The mayor usually stays in the Galvez during these storms. The San Luis is beautiful, I've stayed there several times, but it's not as much a $h!t brickhouse as the Galvez.

Earlier today there was talk that CNN might not allow anyone to remain on Galveston Island tomorrow but dunno outcome on that tidbit ???

Fwiw, I saw on KHOU live today that the remnant EMS folks that stay behind Friday are going to be stationed with 9-11 operations in a special Conference Room at the San Luis.

That hotel was built up on top of the old WWII Gun Battery (with secret bunkers) and one of the bunkers was used to hold that conference room specifically for this purpose... it is now classified as the official safest place on the Island. As a kid, we used to climb up there and try to explore around them as best as we could get near the edges to peer in. Oh, the pool they built up on top is really nice too http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WM35A7

The KHOU station with live feed is the best way to get the overall grasp of what this storm really means, how it could be TSHFT in several significant ways ...

PS: Dr. Neal Frank retired of the NHC who many of us remember from decades ago on regular TV news with national Hurricane updates is now the chief meteorologist for KHOU and makes that station even more interesting. Tonight, he was surprised that the NWS has issued a Flood Watch for all Houston region when it was not expected until tomorrow mid-day and he said that this is NOT a good sign at all !!
 
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onderock

Veteran Member
I figured I'd throw this out one more time, for anyone who may not have seen it, and needs a place. You might not have much time left, but you're certainly welcome!

---onderock---


http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showpost.php?p=2999755&postcount=275

Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: The dot in the Atlantic 700 miles due East of Charleston S.C.
Posts: 1,747
Just taking a minute to pop in and let whoever can, to know that what I said for Gustav/NOLA still applies for Ike, or anything else that befalls a member here:

previous post, August 31st, still valid!

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showt...av#post2987743

QUOTE:
I don't know if any of you lot would care to buy a ticket to (at the moment) sunny Bermuda, but if so, you have a home from someone who has been thru two cat5's over here.

If you've gotta' find a "home away from home" for a couple of weeks, shoot me a PM and let me know you're coming (well, actually for me to let my DW know you're coming)

This is a sincere offer, I am truly aware of what you're up against. The saving grace here has been stone/block homes (and roofs) built for 150MPH winds. NOLA and surrounding can't handle what's coming, I've been there, seen that.

You're more than welcome here, we can handle a family of four, if a fold out couch is OK for the kids.

---onderock---
 
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