POL He Is Nowhere Near 218': A Scenario Is Emerging That Ends With Kevin McCarthy Not Being Elected Speaker -UPDATE - McCarthy Elected As Speaker!

The Hammer

Has No Life - Lives on TB
He will get every dem vote that is in the chamber. the number to watch is if he goes OVER 212, that means somebody on the republican side flipped.
Yep. There are a lot of Dems, and you can bet they won't break ranks.

Unless Republicans are stupid, they won't give Jeffries the majority he would need. Which may mean 1,579 different votes before we have a Republican speaker.

But I'm not counting anything out yet, including mass stupidity...
 

33dInd

Veteran Member
Hi plains drama
And the communist are loving it
The republicans,as usual, are snatching defeat to their chest
I don’t know if McCarthy was right for the job but I damn sure realize this is giving all the talking heads grins and tingling down their legs
This party can’t get their s——t straight for nothing
Trump was our last hurrah and look how they eviscerated him
 

von Koehler

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Perhaps a very small piece of the year from hell?

Unable to reach the most basic agreements?

Everything is at a standstill.
 

bbbuddy

DEPLORABLE ME
This party was in thrall to the deep state. Now they have some MAGA types saying "no more".

Will they be bought off? Can they be bought off? Business as usual? Stay tuned. Our future is at stake....although I lean to the idea that it's too little too late.
 

Donghe Surfer

Veteran Member
MA did call at least a few years or more ago that the 2-team political field that has mostly played in D.C. since John Adams will suddenly become 3 teams (again, as it happened a few times). Basically, it's 52-card pick-up, with no one looking to pick up the cards.
 

Hawkgirl_70

Veteran Member
Sensing McCarthy can’t win….

No, he can't. He's done. But we have to watch for the RINO Replacement. Still think it will be Scalise. Again, nice guy but he's very moderate and more so than McCarthy. If I had to vote between only those 2, unfortunately, I'd take McCarthy. Sorry, I just think Scalise would backfire for MAGA R's. I hope those 19-20 won't be satisfied with him.
 

The Hammer

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Well then, if we start seeing dems voting for McCarthy tomorrow, we'll know who he's actually willing to negotiate with and give concessions to.
I suspect that's what McCarthy is waiting for. Absent that, he's just treading water and might as well step aside so that a new list of candidates can be considered.
 

Hawkgirl_70

Veteran Member
Well then, if we start seeing dems voting for McCarthy tomorrow, we'll know who he's actually willing to negotiate with and give concessions to.
Dems AREN'T GOING TO VOTE FOR an R. EVER. Please read this thread. They're going to keep voting their same amount of votes for Jeffries. That's how it works.
An R is going to win because we have the most total R members.
 

Hawkgirl_70

Veteran Member
I suspect that's what McCarthy is waiting for. Absent that, he's just treading water and might as well step aside so that a new list of candidates can be considered.
That's just not going to happen. Those 19 or 20 would declare war on McCarthy on the floor and keep him hamstrung from moving forward on bringing anything to the floor if he decided to work on the D's side. He would be very weak with no confidence by his piers.

He doesn't have the votes after 3 rounds now. Someone new is going to emerge.
 

Granny Franny

Senior Member
Dems AREN'T GOING TO VOTE FOR an R. EVER. Please read this thread. They're going to keep voting their same amount of votes for Jeffries. That's how it works.
An R is going to win because we have the most total R members.

This blocking for speaker isn't how it's supposed to work either.
 

Buick Electra

TB2K Girls with Guns
Can you imagine being McCarthy at home tonight? Probably 3 or 4 phones in use. He already threatened so would he be at the begging level? Wonder what his handler is saying to him. He's been promised so much money for becoming Speaker he's probably in a fetal position on the floor, crying his eyes out.

I'm not so sure this cluster-muck isn't part of 'The Plan.' :popcorn3:
 
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