33dInd
Veteran Member
Nope on greene
She is firmly for McCarthy
POL He Is Nowhere Near 218': A Scenario Is Emerging That Ends With Kevin McCarthy Not Being Elected Speaker -UPDATE - McCarthy Elected As Speaker!
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She is firmly for McCarthy
I had heard her say that a while ago but didn't know she was still firm on that. I'm disappointed.
33dInd
Veteran Member
If McCarthy strikes a deal. Any deal with the commies to get the position then we be screwed even more
McCarthy will get it come anything else and if that means selling his soul to the commies then I believe he will
Not that I have much faith in him in the first place
Griz3752
Retired, practising Curmudgeon
Jeffries is IDed as a "Centrist Democrat" which, to me, just says he hasn't publicly fallen in behind The Squad, yet.
All things considered, getting Nancy away from the podium is a step in the right direction but research into this guy's voting record is required. I don't recall him being a flag waver for a lot of the SJW Giveaways but , who really knows until he gets into the chair. Maybe DNC is jyst trying to put up a Speaker candidate more palatable to the RINO members. We won't know for sure until the votes for Speaker are counted. The deals might be exposed then but not before its too late . . . .
Tristan
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Then there's this:
www.thegatewaypundit.com
"Why did Kevin McCarthy move into Frank Luntz’s penthouse in Washington?
In my estimation they both are RINOs, and part of the Kabuki -
Rep. Kevin McCarthy's Excuse for Living with Pollster Frank Luntz Doesn't Add Up
Representative Kevin McCarthy attempted to share a valid reason for rooming with pollster Frank Luntz but it failed. Kevin McCarthy was a very good friend to his roommate Frank Luntz: House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy has said he moved into longtime Republican pollster Frank Luntz’s lavish...
www.thegatewaypundit.com
"Why did Kevin McCarthy move into Frank Luntz’s penthouse in Washington?
- House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy has said he moved into longtime Republican pollster Frank Luntz’s lavish Washington penthouse apartment in January to care for Luntz after the pollster suffered a stroke while doing a focus group for the Los Angeles Times a full year earlier, in January of 2020."
In my estimation they both are RINOs, and part of the Kabuki -
Cedar Lake
Connecticut Yankee
Hakeem Jeffries, a proud Member of the Democratic New York City Party Machine.
His voting and speaking record speaks for itself and is illuminating.
If you are for massive Democratic Reparations for events that happened over the last 2 centuries, He's your man.
Enough right there.
Griz3752
Retired, practising Curmudgeon
Ah yes - reparations. Let me count the ways I find that to be despicable and divisive.
"Here's the bill for something people, not even remotely connected to you, may have observed happening."
Where did you find that illuminating info?
jward
passin' thru
BREAKING: Kevin McCarthy Officially Has a Republican Challenger for the Speakership
Teri Christoph
Rep. Andy Biggs, Republican congressman from Arizona, has been one of the party’s most vocal critics in the weeks since the midterm elections, calling for a change in party leadership at all levels. Today, Biggs officially announced he will be challenging current minority leader Kevin McCarthy when the new Congress meets next month and elects a new Speaker of the House.
Writing today in the Daily Caller, Biggs explained his decision, saying, “We cannot let this all too rare opportunity to effectuate structural change pass us by because it is uncomfortable to challenge the Republican candidate who is a creature of the establishment status quo, or because the challenge is accompanied by some minimal risk.”
Biggs did not elaborate on how much support he has garnered in his bid for the speakership, but it’s thought he has the backing of his fellow Freedom Caucus members Matt Gaetz (FL), Bob Good (VA), Ralph Norman (SC), and Matt Rosendale (MT). Biggs’ criticism of McCarthy has resulted in a surprising backlash from some conservative commentators, including Mark Levin and Charlie Kirk. Levin went so far as to call the “Never Kevin” crowd “saboteurs” and “boneheads.”
As RedState previously reported, Biggs had some very specific policy concerns:
This is the second time Andy Biggs has gone head-to-head with Kevin McCarthy for the speakership. Just last month, McCarthy won a 188 to 31 vote to become the Republicans’ nominee for speaker once they take control of the House in January. The full chamber will vote for the next speaker once the lawmakers assemble in early January, and McCarthy needs to pick up enough votes to get him to 218.
Here are the numbers:
221: The number of House seats Republicans will hold in the new Congress
213: The number of House seats Democrats will hold in the new Congress
218: The number of votes a candidate needs to be voted Speaker of the House
188: The number of votes Kevin McCarthy received when Republicans voted for a speaker nominee
31: The number of votes Andy Biggs received when Republicans voted for a speaker nominee
It’s unclear if Biggs still has the support of those 31 members, but he presumably has at least five votes. This puts Kevin McCarthy at a precarious 216 votes, two shy of what he needs to take possession of the Speaker’s gavel. Some fear that the five holdouts will give more moderate GOP members the chance to strike some kind of deal with Democrats that allows them to retain the speakership. All of this may just be a political ploy to force concessions from McCarthy in the new legislative session, but he only has 28 days to whip up the votes he needs.
The full House will vote for their new speaker on January 3, 2023.
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RB Martin
Veteran Member
That group of voters should have never voted this eGOP RINO in then!
Blacknarwhal
Let's Go Brandon!
BREAKING: Kevin McCarthy Officially Has a Republican Challenger for the Speakership
Teri Christoph
Rep. Andy Biggs, Republican congressman from Arizona, has been one of the party’s most vocal critics in the weeks since the midterm elections, calling for a change in party leadership at all levels. Today, Biggs officially announced he will be challenging current minority leader Kevin McCarthy when the new Congress meets next month and elects a new Speaker of the House.
Writing today in the Daily Caller, Biggs explained his decision, saying, “We cannot let this all too rare opportunity to effectuate structural change pass us by because it is uncomfortable to challenge the Republican candidate who is a creature of the establishment status quo, or because the challenge is accompanied by some minimal risk.”
Biggs did not elaborate on how much support he has garnered in his bid for the speakership, but it’s thought he has the backing of his fellow Freedom Caucus members Matt Gaetz (FL), Bob Good (VA), Ralph Norman (SC), and Matt Rosendale (MT). Biggs’ criticism of McCarthy has resulted in a surprising backlash from some conservative commentators, including Mark Levin and Charlie Kirk. Levin went so far as to call the “Never Kevin” crowd “saboteurs” and “boneheads.”
As RedState previously reported, Biggs had some very specific policy concerns:
This is the second time Andy Biggs has gone head-to-head with Kevin McCarthy for the speakership. Just last month, McCarthy won a 188 to 31 vote to become the Republicans’ nominee for speaker once they take control of the House in January. The full chamber will vote for the next speaker once the lawmakers assemble in early January, and McCarthy needs to pick up enough votes to get him to 218.
Here are the numbers:
221: The number of House seats Republicans will hold in the new Congress
213: The number of House seats Democrats will hold in the new Congress
218: The number of votes a candidate needs to be voted Speaker of the House
188: The number of votes Kevin McCarthy received when Republicans voted for a speaker nominee
31: The number of votes Andy Biggs received when Republicans voted for a speaker nominee
It’s unclear if Biggs still has the support of those 31 members, but he presumably has at least five votes. This puts Kevin McCarthy at a precarious 216 votes, two shy of what he needs to take possession of the Speaker’s gavel. Some fear that the five holdouts will give more moderate GOP members the chance to strike some kind of deal with Democrats that allows them to retain the speakership. All of this may just be a political ploy to force concessions from McCarthy in the new legislative session, but he only has 28 days to whip up the votes he needs.
The full House will vote for their new speaker on January 3, 2023.
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My oh my. I guess there's some pushback after all. Likely not enough, but some, and a few people can sleep better at night.
I wish he was a stronger Trump supporter myself. As usual, the choice is generally him or a democrat. I haven't seen anyone stronger run against him.
CTFIREBATTCHIEF
Veteran Member
Vote for speaker underway. three announced candidates. Biggs is the other republican. I heard a vote by laura boebert for jim jordan and somebody voted for another person but couldn't hear who it was
Biggs has two votes and "other" has two, no present votes yet
Biggs has two votes and "other" has two, no present votes yet
CTFIREBATTCHIEF
Veteran Member
Fifty plus votes in so far, mccarthy has a 6 vote lead
CTFIREBATTCHIEF
Veteran Member
I do not know if all 434 members are in the chamber or not
CTFIREBATTCHIEF
Veteran Member
Jordan just received another vote as did biggs
Hawkgirl_70
Veteran Member
I think McCarthy is going down! I think they will actually pull it off.
CTFIREBATTCHIEF
Veteran Member
Biggs now has seven votes, 3 others. If i'm reading my tea leaves right, there is not a path forward for mccarthy
CTFIREBATTCHIEF
Veteran Member
so the question is, who rises to the top on the second ballot
CTFIREBATTCHIEF
Veteran Member
a vote just came in for lee zeldin
CTFIREBATTCHIEF
Veteran Member
and it will be interesting to see, now that mccarthy has no path forward on THIS vote, how many jump ship on the first vote and go for biggs, just for the hell of it
CTFIREBATTCHIEF
Veteran Member
Jim Jordan voted for mccarthy
He’ll never get my vote. Voting for McCarthy is voting for mediocrity at best…
OA
Blacknarwhal
Let's Go Brandon!
Didn't think McCarthy was in that good of shape.
Donghe Surfer
Veteran Member
so, who are we (forum consensus) supposed to like? I can't tell between the 2. 
He is not in good shape. The speakership is usually decided weeks and even months ago.
If a another vote is needed, it would be the first revote in 100+ years.
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Hawkgirl_70
Veteran Member
I'm hoping Jim Jordan gets it.
Thunderdragon
Senior Member
No right answer. Most people we would support have zero chance of getting republicans to vote for them. So it appears to be McCarthy or some alleged moderate dem they can get a handful of neocons to vote for.
Hawkgirl_70
Veteran Member
So far, it's looking McCarthy has lost about 10 votes.
After 4 lost, it's a guaranteed 2nd vote.
After 4 lost, it's a guaranteed 2nd vote.
nomifyle
TB Fanatic
If that happens maybe it will scare mccarthy into doing the right thing.
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223shootersc
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Very sad day in America!
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