medic38572
TB Fanatic
Well we know who the republican mafia members are now. It makes me happy to see all these people's true colors.
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POL He Is Nowhere Near 218': A Scenario Is Emerging That Ends With Kevin McCarthy Not Being Elected Speaker -UPDATE - McCarthy Elected As Speaker!
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Codeno
Veteran Member
It has been many years since I began telling others something like "There is not, and never again will be any help coming out of Washington for the likes of you and me, and you really need to acknowledge this fact, so that you can get on with the implementation of alternate plans you have come up with yourself, in the best interests of you and yours."
There is not a person on this earth who as House speaker could have made a whit of difference against the corruption, crime and evil that pervades Washington today, apart from Providence, and as a nation we seem hellbent on destroying that relationship/avenue altogether.
As conservatives, we look like fools throwing good money after bad so to speak, every 2 years, doubling down on ridiculous bets and seriously misplaced trust/hope in some of the most vile creatures ever to disgrace the face of this earth - politicians.
Plan accordingly, spend your time and energies wisely.
There is not a person on this earth who as House speaker could have made a whit of difference against the corruption, crime and evil that pervades Washington today, apart from Providence, and as a nation we seem hellbent on destroying that relationship/avenue altogether.
As conservatives, we look like fools throwing good money after bad so to speak, every 2 years, doubling down on ridiculous bets and seriously misplaced trust/hope in some of the most vile creatures ever to disgrace the face of this earth - politicians.
Plan accordingly, spend your time and energies wisely.
Dobbin
Faithful Steed
Well, this is akin to Jackson's "John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!"
The DOJ in this case being Jackson and the House being John Marshall.
This IS a classic case of "separation of state." It exists for a reason, not this reason, but with good cause.
Nothing happens in government without a 2 out of 3 agreement. Worcester v. Georgia - Wikipedia
It's just too bad when the opposing party already has the two, and is willing to use them to undo YOU.
Dobbin
intothatgoodnight
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According to recent revelations, in many (most?) cases, federal and state political candidates are (s)elected and installed.
J6P's vote does not necessarily matter in these (s)elections and installations.
intothegoodnight
intothatgoodnight
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Granny Franny
Senior Member
My understanding on the one vote to vacate the speaker position, is that it actually removes him from speaker and forces another vote for speaker. He has to win a majority again and the 20 holdouts have agreed that if McCarthy doesn't uphold the agreements, they will withhold their votes again until a different speaker is elected. This is the way it used to be and Nancy Pelosi was the one who changed it to require a majority vote to vacate the position.
The single subject bills is a big deal and will eliminate a lot of the pork getting thrown in just to get a budget, defense or any other bill passed. Floor debates as well as time to read the bills will be a big improvement over today's rules.
While this isn't perfect and there will still be a lot of infighting, it does set some better ground rules going forward. IF they get it ironed out they way they need to.
One other problem was that nobody else actually wanted to be the snake oil speaker.
The single subject bills is a big deal and will eliminate a lot of the pork getting thrown in just to get a budget, defense or any other bill passed. Floor debates as well as time to read the bills will be a big improvement over today's rules.
While this isn't perfect and there will still be a lot of infighting, it does set some better ground rules going forward. IF they get it ironed out they way they need to.
One other problem was that nobody else actually wanted to be the snake oil speaker.
CTFIREBATTCHIEF
Veteran Member
Ahhh, finally a good nights sleep! Ok here we go 
My Brother and Sister Timebombers.
The one thing I like on this site, above all else, is that we all have differing opinions about things, but in the end, what unites us all is our love for this Republic of ours and our anger at those who would seek to destroy her. Many of us have taken The Oath and we take it seriously. ALL of us are fiercely loyal to our Country! Here are my feelings on the last five days.
When I was an active firefighter and fire officer, we had a signal that would be transmitted that "the forward progress of the fire has been stopped". We still had a LOT of work to do to put it out, but it wasn't going to get any worse. In a sense, that has happened in Congress. Pelosi is gone. Jefferies is NOT the speaker and the progressive commie basturds do NOT have a majority in our House of Representatives. We still have a LOT of work to do, to "put the fire out" but we've stopped the forward progress for now.
Mccarthy is NO prize package by any stretch of the imagination. My opinion of him is that he is an arrogant, self entitled and slimy POS but he is Speaker now. He has been shown that eyes are upon him and he has also had to negotiate with a bunch of no nonsense conservatives to make changes that will end his dictatorial powers in that body. It is up to those conservatives and hopefully some others that have had their eyes opened up this past week, to hold him tight to the agreements that have been made. I watched most of the proceedings, hell probably ALL of it in the past five days on C-span and watching the interactions on the floor was a learning experience to say the least. Personally I think that ALL proceedings should be televised in that fashion. If cops have to wear body cameras? then congress people should be on camera during the legislative process in the chamber. I know there are "cloak rooms" where deals are made, but it's a start.
I know that anything that is voted out of the house has to go to a Democrat controlled Senate and will probably die there if chucky doesn't like it. BUT, we have the power of the filibuster and it should be wielded hard and brutally when necessary. That 1.7 Trillion pork bill should have been killed in that chamber but RINO's decided to cuddle up to schumer. That is our next hurdle and that is in the future. As for NOW? if it is a republican bill and it passes the house and goes to the senate, it is up to Mccarthy to tell Mcconnell that he had BETTER make sure that all of his Republicans support it. If it is a democrat bill that comes up in the house and it's a bad bill, bad for the republic, I had better see 222 no votes in that house chamber to kill it in its cradle. NO republican support at all. Elections have consequences Kevin. remember that. Republicans have the majority. no more going along to get along.
That debacle where jefferies sat in the speakers chair early this morning bad mouthing all of us should NEVER be repeated again. I'd make that basturd pay for that one way or another if I was Speaker.
Yes the Senate is controlled by Dems and we have a total asshat and a disgusting slut occupying the President and Vice President positions. Make them REACT to us for a change, MAKE them accountable for passing a bad bill and make them burn political capital to push it through. DON'T help them. make them own any bad legislation. Hopefully if Mccarthy does his job, the Senate won't get any bad bills to take up. The Speaker need to bring transparency into the process, needs to live up to the agreements that have been made. He needs to get imput from his members and to understand that "republican lite" is NOT what most of us prefer. The members need to put aside their differences and work for the best interests of the Republic. It is why you all are there. Yes I know, a TALL order. But 20 or so conservatives spoke this past week. enough is enough!!
Stop the forward progress of the destruction of our Republic and start putting out the damned fire!
My Brother and Sister Timebombers.
The one thing I like on this site, above all else, is that we all have differing opinions about things, but in the end, what unites us all is our love for this Republic of ours and our anger at those who would seek to destroy her. Many of us have taken The Oath and we take it seriously. ALL of us are fiercely loyal to our Country! Here are my feelings on the last five days.
When I was an active firefighter and fire officer, we had a signal that would be transmitted that "the forward progress of the fire has been stopped". We still had a LOT of work to do to put it out, but it wasn't going to get any worse. In a sense, that has happened in Congress. Pelosi is gone. Jefferies is NOT the speaker and the progressive commie basturds do NOT have a majority in our House of Representatives. We still have a LOT of work to do, to "put the fire out" but we've stopped the forward progress for now.
Mccarthy is NO prize package by any stretch of the imagination. My opinion of him is that he is an arrogant, self entitled and slimy POS but he is Speaker now. He has been shown that eyes are upon him and he has also had to negotiate with a bunch of no nonsense conservatives to make changes that will end his dictatorial powers in that body. It is up to those conservatives and hopefully some others that have had their eyes opened up this past week, to hold him tight to the agreements that have been made. I watched most of the proceedings, hell probably ALL of it in the past five days on C-span and watching the interactions on the floor was a learning experience to say the least. Personally I think that ALL proceedings should be televised in that fashion. If cops have to wear body cameras? then congress people should be on camera during the legislative process in the chamber. I know there are "cloak rooms" where deals are made, but it's a start.
I know that anything that is voted out of the house has to go to a Democrat controlled Senate and will probably die there if chucky doesn't like it. BUT, we have the power of the filibuster and it should be wielded hard and brutally when necessary. That 1.7 Trillion pork bill should have been killed in that chamber but RINO's decided to cuddle up to schumer. That is our next hurdle and that is in the future. As for NOW? if it is a republican bill and it passes the house and goes to the senate, it is up to Mccarthy to tell Mcconnell that he had BETTER make sure that all of his Republicans support it. If it is a democrat bill that comes up in the house and it's a bad bill, bad for the republic, I had better see 222 no votes in that house chamber to kill it in its cradle. NO republican support at all. Elections have consequences Kevin. remember that. Republicans have the majority. no more going along to get along.
That debacle where jefferies sat in the speakers chair early this morning bad mouthing all of us should NEVER be repeated again. I'd make that basturd pay for that one way or another if I was Speaker.
Yes the Senate is controlled by Dems and we have a total asshat and a disgusting slut occupying the President and Vice President positions. Make them REACT to us for a change, MAKE them accountable for passing a bad bill and make them burn political capital to push it through. DON'T help them. make them own any bad legislation. Hopefully if Mccarthy does his job, the Senate won't get any bad bills to take up. The Speaker need to bring transparency into the process, needs to live up to the agreements that have been made. He needs to get imput from his members and to understand that "republican lite" is NOT what most of us prefer. The members need to put aside their differences and work for the best interests of the Republic. It is why you all are there. Yes I know, a TALL order. But 20 or so conservatives spoke this past week. enough is enough!!
Stop the forward progress of the destruction of our Republic and start putting out the damned fire!
CaryC
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Not arguing with you, just want to point out then, that if it "changed under Pelosi" that means it was in effect for the other 100+ Congresses, and was only tried during Newt's term, which didn't succeed.
So just having it on the books, may not mean a thing.
BTW will also point out that those 20 holdouts, didn't hold out this time either.
My point is: it's going to take 2 years to see if this was theater, or real. I'm not holding my breath and don't think you should either.
hiwall
Has No Life - Lives on TB
this ^^ is the only truth.babylonbee.com
After 15 Grueling House Speaker Votes, America's Long National Nightmare Can Finally Begin
WASHINGTON, D.C. — After a week of grueling votes for Speaker of the House — 15 in total — Kevin McCarthy was finally handed the people's gavel and took his rightful place as Speaker. He lifted it up to the raucous applause of both Democrats and Republicans, signaling that the week of Congressional inactivity was over and the long national nightmare of taxing, spending, and corruption could finally begin.
"Finally, we will get down to the people's business of stealing all their money for our pet projects, making backroom deals, and holding meaningless investigations where we yell and point angrily at people to get some sweet sound bytes for our reelections," said McCarthy to the assembled warmongers, rapists, and half-dead geriatrics in the room. "Our long congressional nightmare is over, and the long national nightmare is finally here! Huzzah!"
Those in the crowd who were still sober enough to stand then stood and cheered.
Experts predict that business as usual will resume first thing Monday, as politicians give portentous speeches to empty rooms, have important meetings with weapons manufacturers, and attend coke orgies. "Americans are overwhelmingly pleased to be finally achieving a state of normalcy in Washington again," said one pollster.
At publishing time, Congress had already authorized another $100 billion to Ukraine.
Watch as a fired Twitter employee applies for her first *actual* job:
After 15 Grueling House Speaker Votes, America's Long National Nightmare Can Finally Begin
WASHINGTON, D.C. — After a week of grueling votes for Speaker of the House — 15 in total — Kevin McCarthy was finally handed the people's gavel and took his rightful place as Speaker. He lifted it up to the raucous applause of both Democrats and Republicans, signaling that the week of...babylonbee.com
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Zerohedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zerowww.zerohedge.com
Here Are The Concessions McCarthy Had To Make For Speakership
Of course Steny would say this - the loyal Maryland Democrat representative that he is - first (s)elected and installed in 1981.
The better question.
What did McCarthy promise the Democrats?
Haven't seen that list.
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Granny Franny
Senior Member
I agree, mostly. My feeling is the holdouts were trying to get the concessions for the rule changes - not to actually get another speaker. I don't think anyone else wanted to be speaker.
I also added a big IF at the end, so agree we need to see what happens. I also won't be holding my breath. It's easy to mouth promises - much harder to carry thru on them, especially in the environment they are working in.
LightEcho
Has No Life - Lives on TB
McCarthy- the perfect pick!! For a fallen nation that refuses truth, justice, liberty, lawfulness.
A perfect fit for a slimey collection of politicians who need to face the judgment of God in one tight little collective.
Where did we go wrong? Long ago. We let simple little violations of principles get by and did not pay attention to word use, meanings changes, immoral acceptances, glorification of liars and law-breakers... and many more.
A perfect fit for a slimey collection of politicians who need to face the judgment of God in one tight little collective.
Where did we go wrong? Long ago. We let simple little violations of principles get by and did not pay attention to word use, meanings changes, immoral acceptances, glorification of liars and law-breakers... and many more.
All4liberty
Senior Member
Is what plain now? Your attitude towards the 20? Yes, you detest them all.
I was referring to your bumper sticker about "wise men still seek him"and your condescending attitude and one of them needed to go. You don't need to defend to me, you need to answer to God as we all do.
Ractivist
Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
The reality is of one Trump. One who garners overwhelming support from the citizen base. Then losses by a confirmed fraudulent election. Where everyone is bought off, to do the fraud, paid for it......Soros, and company. Politicians like Biden, bought off by chyna.... AG's, to ignore the existing laws... corrupt media..we all know the depth and width of this corruption, and as stated. It won't go away on it's own, and it's tentacles are everywhere. Yet it stands on a house built on shifting sand. It has no foundation in anything it does, outside of the propaganda which they once totally controlled. Now with the Twitter revelations..................................................that house of cards is on the way down. America has and is being awakened to the reality's at hand. Not all, but the core are getting it. See it on every commentary these days.
medic38572
TB Fanatic
George Santos does not appear to have an office or staff in his district
NEW YORK - George Santos' official website lists his district office in Douglaston, Queens at the same location where retiring Congressman Tom Suozzi opened his doors to constituents for years but the door now remains closed, Suozzi’s name is still stamped on the awning and window, and inside, it doesn’t look like much has changed since he left.Constituents in New York’s Third Congressional District are continuing to call on George Santos to step aside.
"Everybody feels duped," said one constituent. "He’s a liar. How can you believe anything he says."
The Republican, who flipped the district from blue to red and lied about nearly everything on his resume, turned his back on reporters on Tuesday.
And on Wednesday he continued to vote for Rep. Kevin McCarthy to be the House speaker but not before his name was called twice in the fifth vote.
Nassau County DA launches investigation into Rep.-elect George Santos
"Anyone working in an organization who gave you a false resume would be fired tomorrow so why we’re not firing him is beyond me," said another constituent.
Employees of nearby businesses who spoke to FOX 5 News say, in the past, they’d normally see Suozzi or his staff in the mornings but there’s been no action over the past few weeks.
FOX 5 News reached out to the realty company about the space and whether it’s available and was told: "Right now it’s not."
Rep.-elect George Santos ready to be sworn in
Retired U.S. Congressman Peter King says the fact that the office isn’t staffed isn’t a good sign.
"Any other member of Congress when first elected, you have your staff in the office on the day Congress opens," King said. "People are going to be calling. You want to make sure the phones are working."
FOX 5 News tried calling the office number listed for Santos. There was no answer and the voicemailbox was full. Requests via text and email went unanswered.
George Santos does not appear to have an office or staff in his district
Constituents in New York’s Third Congressional District do not appear to have any way to contact their new representative, George Santos.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
How can they believe anything biden says? If they force him out this could make for an interesting precedent, it's almost like this is being done intentionally.
All4liberty
Senior Member
I found this interesting about the motion to vacate.
"The 100-year-old event to which The New York Times, National Review and Messer refer is the attempt by House Democrats to remove Speaker Joseph Cannon from power on March 20, 1910. Described by one modern historian as the most controversial Speaker in American history and by others as a "czar" and "tyrant," Cannon, a Republican from Illinois, survived a vote to vacate his office 155-192. A Democrat from Texas named Albert Burleson had filed the resolution in an attempt to capitalize on growing divisions between progressives and conservatives within the Republican Party." Link
It really appears that a single Republican or dem can cause the motion to vacate the chair and requires a vote by the body. Further Paul Ryan, wanted it removed in 2015.
"In the race to succeed him, the motion to vacate rule again played a key role. Rep. Paul Ryan, Boehner's eventual successor, initially stated that he would seek the Speakership only if changes were made to the rule. A spokesperson for Ryan stated in October, "No matter who is speaker, they cannot be successful with this weapon pointed at them all the time."
Maybe the 20 achieved a little more than you are willing to give them credit for.
Buick Electra
TB2K Girls with Guns
All the points brought up on nothing changing are very valid and I don't dispute them, but there are a couple things I'd like to point out.
We are all ASSUMING republicans in congress will be just as bad as it has been. I get it - why would it change after 40 years? But even a broken clock (if it's not digital) is right twice a day.
I am NOT HAPPY McCarthy won, but I'm willing to give this, not necessarily 'change in leadership,' a chance before going all gloom-and-doom, but to give the conservative R's a chance to see how they can manage McCarthy, (if they can).
Secondly, I know you all have heard about negative speech manifesting into the real thing so I'm not going to do that with this congress. I'm going to pray over them like I've never prayed over them before.
Lastly, I know all the arguments about Trump's track record and join with you all in how many deep staters were put into his Administration. We all assumed, being a newcomer to the DC scene, Trump was just ignorant and relied on recommendations from others who also weren't trustworthy.
What many here forget was that Trump was ASKED to run by the white hat military who I know had to have had dossiers on every DC player as well as foreign leaders as thick as phone books, and would think they informed Trump of these people's backgrounds. Learning recently how Trump likes to put his enemies front and center, (think Fauci & Birx), we certainly all NOW know that Gen. Milley, Bolton, Pompeo, Sessions, Fauci, Birx, and a host of others have been and always will be America haters, putting their own fortunes and asses first because WE SAW IT; (NOT read about it).
Trump and the white hat military know everything the enemies did under the Trump Administration, yet Trump backed McCarthy. This isn't Trump coming into DC for the first time again; this is a battle-hardened Trump that knows exactly what McCarthy did, and has done probably prior to his administration, and while under it.
There's only 3 reasons I can come up with for Trump backing McCarthy:
1) McCarthy turned evidence over to Trump and the white hats, (which of course the other conservative R's wouldn't know), and will now try to right things as Speaker at Trump's direction.
2) Trump has so much blackmail on McCarthy, he will do what Trump tells him.
3) Trump really is an idiot. (And I'm not buying that).
Considering that Gaetz, MTG and others were in contact with Trump through this whole Speaker process tells me there's more here than meets the eye, and that's why I'm not going all gloom-and-doom right now and am willing to sit back and see what happens.
We are all ASSUMING republicans in congress will be just as bad as it has been. I get it - why would it change after 40 years? But even a broken clock (if it's not digital) is right twice a day.
I am NOT HAPPY McCarthy won, but I'm willing to give this, not necessarily 'change in leadership,' a chance before going all gloom-and-doom, but to give the conservative R's a chance to see how they can manage McCarthy, (if they can).
Secondly, I know you all have heard about negative speech manifesting into the real thing so I'm not going to do that with this congress. I'm going to pray over them like I've never prayed over them before.
Lastly, I know all the arguments about Trump's track record and join with you all in how many deep staters were put into his Administration. We all assumed, being a newcomer to the DC scene, Trump was just ignorant and relied on recommendations from others who also weren't trustworthy.
What many here forget was that Trump was ASKED to run by the white hat military who I know had to have had dossiers on every DC player as well as foreign leaders as thick as phone books, and would think they informed Trump of these people's backgrounds. Learning recently how Trump likes to put his enemies front and center, (think Fauci & Birx), we certainly all NOW know that Gen. Milley, Bolton, Pompeo, Sessions, Fauci, Birx, and a host of others have been and always will be America haters, putting their own fortunes and asses first because WE SAW IT; (NOT read about it).
Trump and the white hat military know everything the enemies did under the Trump Administration, yet Trump backed McCarthy. This isn't Trump coming into DC for the first time again; this is a battle-hardened Trump that knows exactly what McCarthy did, and has done probably prior to his administration, and while under it.
There's only 3 reasons I can come up with for Trump backing McCarthy:
1) McCarthy turned evidence over to Trump and the white hats, (which of course the other conservative R's wouldn't know), and will now try to right things as Speaker at Trump's direction.
2) Trump has so much blackmail on McCarthy, he will do what Trump tells him.
3) Trump really is an idiot. (And I'm not buying that).
Considering that Gaetz, MTG and others were in contact with Trump through this whole Speaker process tells me there's more here than meets the eye, and that's why I'm not going all gloom-and-doom right now and am willing to sit back and see what happens.
All depends how the Dems decide to vote. They will vote as a block as they are told.
bracketquant
Veteran Member
If it ever happens, which I doubt at this point, the Dems would need to have good info as to who may replace him.
If the rumor would be someone like Jim Jordan, the Dems would vote no, as a block, to remove McCarthy.
Border Collie Dad
Flat Earther
I don't think your vote means anything.
Just responding to Cary C's post about who you vote for
intothatgoodnight
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I qualified my "vote" statement because those that vote for the chosen/selected machine candidate DO have their vote counted - in some cases, several times.
(BTW-notice that there never seems to be a vote-count complaint from the J6P Democrats?)
Funny, that.
intothegoodnight
Give this a listen- hopium though it be.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9aJqM_-vpg
You Won't BELIEVE What McCarthy Just Did to Become SPEAKER!!! - Dr. Steve Turley
RT 08:55
You Won't BELIEVE What McCarthy Just Did to Become SPEAKER!!! - Dr. Steve Turley
RT 08:55
vector7
Dot Collector
Matt Gaetz: This is what we’ve been fighting for...
The Republican rules package guarantees that these seven bills come up for a vote in the House. They include cutting IRS funding, restricting migration and curtailing abortion.
View: https://twitter.com/mattgaetz/status/1611893549351534592?s=20&t=3pUiKgYMJBmXgvajLNAJvA
The Republican rules package guarantees that these seven bills come up for a vote in the House. They include cutting IRS funding, restricting migration and curtailing abortion.
View: https://twitter.com/mattgaetz/status/1611893549351534592?s=20&t=3pUiKgYMJBmXgvajLNAJvA
vector7
Dot Collector
Kevin McCarthy: My father always told me it’s not how you start, it’s how you finish. And now we need to finish strong for the American people.
View: https://twitter.com/muh_thoughts/status/1611916447378296832?s=20&t=ERtp_G5sGdb3raIgs0oEIg
View: https://twitter.com/muh_thoughts/status/1611916447378296832?s=20&t=ERtp_G5sGdb3raIgs0oEIg
Buick Electra
TB2K Girls with Guns
From the horse's mouth....... and (FSTCBL)
truthsocial.com
nypost.com
Truth Social
Truth Social is America's "Big Tent" social media platform that encourages an open, free, and honest global conversation without discriminating on the basis of political ideology.
truthsocial.com
Kevin McCarthy credits Donald Trump for House speaker victory
“I do want to especially thank President Trump. I don’t think anybody should doubt his influence,” McCarthy said Saturday morning.
nypost.com
CaryC
Has No Life - Lives on TB
That would be really cool, no doubt. Over the years I have acquired a taste for crow, so don't mind eating it every now and then. And if that happens now, so much the better. However let me make one notation:
Bringing them up for a vote, does not mean passage. Even in the House. Much less Senate, and then a signature. So eventually they will not go anywhere. But let's concentrate on just the House.
There are already 212 or so Dems who are liberal and will vote down any conservative Bills. All they will need is about 7 cross over votes from Republicans (RINO's) and there tend to be about 30 or so that have done this in the past, who trend to the middle or even left, meaning those 20 holdouts who didn't holdout, but did get concessions, will get a voice and a vote, and will be voted down.
So many conservative bills have been shot down in the past it's almost become a tradition.
Just saying, but I could be wrong, I like my crow with BBQ. Might want to print out those concessions and follow them as they move through the House.
CaryC
Has No Life - Lives on TB
You really need to follow your own replies and responses to those replies. So maybe I can help you:
It should be plain why I'm hostile to them. They caved. And they played "We the People" like a fiddle. And the reason they caved is they are politicians and NOT Patriots.
My condescending tone is more in line with people thinking security and safety (or peace and safety) lie in the hands of men who reside in government, or traditional religious ceremony, rather than in the person of Christ.
The wise should and will seek out Christ. At His Birth only 3 did, if tradition holds, I say that because the Bible doesn't actually say how many there were. "....and wise men came from the east...." And you will note that neither the Wise men nor Christ sought out the rulers of their day.
And for Christ, those who put their faith and trust in anything besides Him, he had harsh words to say, turn tables over etc.... He wasn't all gooshy and touchy feely.
If we are truly in a Republic a representative form of government, when the politicians campaign do they say: I stand for this and this vote for me.
Or do they say: what do you want me to say/stand for in representing you?
Because one is and one isn't.
Just curious, out of the 20 "holdouts" were any of them your representative from your district?
No harm either way. Just curious. I'll tell you right up front none of them were from my district. So I assume my Representative voted for McCarthy every single time. Whether I wanted him to or not. A Representative type of government you say? Having a voice in government?
intothatgoodnight
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Ideally, a campaigning politician would stand and say that they support the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights.
To an aware patriotic citizen, THAT statement should mean something significant and vital.
The trouble seems to be that many? most? citizens and politicians do not:
1) know the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights;
2) understand (in an operational sense) the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights;
3) understand what the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights means to the country, as a whole;
4) understand what the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights means to they, and theirs, going into the future.
The fundamental problem is NOT just that politicians are ignorant about the importance of the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights - it is that the citizenry are ignorant/lazy in their understanding of their duty/necessity of holding "EVERYONE'S FEET to the fire" with regards to the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights - politicians, judicial and citizens - a solid baseline that we ALL agree to follow, for the good of everyone.
Money and power are strong distractions away from this mutual baseline agreement, however, as we all understand.
Willful (convenient) ignorance, sez me.
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jward
passin' thru
This article is beyond the paywall, but one line says something about not even being sure that Rogers was "lunging" at Gaetz, more like (when one watches the video in full) he was standing there and held/muzzled for no reason.
I dunno.. just like it's a scripted kabuki theatre performance, full o' sound n fury, signifying nothing- as I suggested days ago?
:: shrug ::
That remains my take:
RedState
@RedState
1m
Here's the Problem With Mike Rogers 'Lunging' at Matt Gaetz on the House Floor
View: https://twitter.com/RedState/status/1612209764720644098?s=20
I dunno.. just like it's a scripted kabuki theatre performance, full o' sound n fury, signifying nothing- as I suggested days ago?
:: shrug ::
That remains my take:
RedState
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Here's the Problem With Mike Rogers 'Lunging' at Matt Gaetz on the House Floor
View: https://twitter.com/RedState/status/1612209764720644098?s=20
vector7
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*REP. MIKE ROGERS TO STEP DOWN FROM HOUSE GOP STEERING: POLITICOThis article is beyond the paywall, but one line says something about not even being sure that Rogers was "lunging" at Gaetz, more like (when one watches the video in full) he was standing there and held/muzzled for no reason.
I dunno.. just like it's a scripted kabuki theatre performance, full o' sound n fury, signifying nothing- as I suggested days ago?
:: shrug ::
That remains my take:
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Here's the Problem With Mike Rogers 'Lunging' at Matt Gaetz on the House Floor
View: https://twitter.com/RedState/status/1612209764720644098?s=20
View: https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1612448053176270849?t=CbL7Pau_9f9NUvOauC7EEg&s=19
vector7
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Rep. @mtgreenee tells Tucker why she supported McCarthy:
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View: https://twitter.com/alx/status/1612627866033823746?t=i_VHMxU_CqsukWeJ4WXTbg&s=19
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View: https://twitter.com/alx/status/1612627866033823746?t=i_VHMxU_CqsukWeJ4WXTbg&s=19