BRKG Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore has collapsed

[Jeep]

New bridge is going to be called the "Bumbling Biden Memorial Bridge".

 

[BornFree]

Not entirely true. Thats only because they emphasis was on time and money. They could have had tugs on standby at the bridge and they could have required the ships to slow to a speed where a tug could escort them through the bridge.

Even a small shift by a tug might have prevented the massive collapse of the bridge.

There's always a tradeoff between safety and money.

A few of these just a few feet outside of the main channel would have solved all the problems with ramming bridges.

 

[BornFree]

Woke America eyes booting Francis Scott Key's name from rebuilt Baltimore bridge​

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Replacing the Francis Scott Key Bridge will take years, billions of dollars and probably come with an entirely new name.

While much of the span remains submerged in the Patapsco River in Baltimore, there are already murmurs about naming the future bridge after someone other than Key, who wrote America’s national anthem and was a slave owner.

“President Joe Biden has pledged that the bridge will be rebuilt. Absolutely. Do that. But when it’s rebuilt, let’s rename it, too,” journalist Wayne Washington wrote in The Root, a Black news media site.

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The bridge was named after Key in part because of its location.

According to the Maryland Preservation, historians believe the bridge stood within 100 yards of where Key was detained on the British flagship HMS Tonnant during the War of 1812, and where he wrote the poem that later became the “Star-Spangled Banner.”

But Key’s reputation has taken a hit in recent years along with other historical figures who owned slaves. Key also represented slaveholders in court and was a proponent of racist views.

As a lawyer, he also represented slaves seeking freedom and he asserted “all men are free.” But he held eight enslaved people when he died.

The National Park Service describes Key as having had “a conflicted relationship with slavery.”

There have been efforts for several years to strip Key’s name off buildings and to rid his likeness, particularly in the wake of the protests following the death of George Floyd, a Black man killed while in police custody.

Dozens of public buildings across the country have been renamed to rid them of connections to people who owned slaves or promoted segregation and racism. Congress also ordered the Pentagon to rename nine military installations as well as hundreds of streets and buildings associated with Confederate soldiers.

Many believe the collapse of the bridge will leave Key’s name buried along with it.

Rep. Mike Collins, Georgia Republican, asked his followers on social media to predict a name for the new bridge.

“Baltimore obviously won’t rename the new bridge after Francis Scott Key again,” he said.

A new bridge, some believe, should be named after other historical figures in Maryland such as Black abolitionists Frederick Douglass or Harriet Tubman, or perhaps Thurgood Marshall, the first Black Supreme Court Justice.

“We should not, in 2020-whenever-the-bridge-is-rebuilt, be naming things in honor of former slaveholders,” Mr. Washington wrote in The Root.

Key was a Maryland native and died in Baltimore, where a statue on N. Eutaw Street was erected in 1911.

The monument was splattered in red paint by activists in 2017 and tagged with the words “racist anthem” on its base.

Key’s poem that inspired the national anthem included four stanzas and some believe part of the third — “No refuge could save the hireling and slave/From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave” — was aimed at mocking slaves who were enticed by the British to join their side in exchange for refuge and land after the war ended.

Key has enough negative baggage to have landed on the target list for possible name changes to public schools in Montgomery County, Maryland.

County school officials have held public meetings to consider renaming six schools named after men who owned slaves, among them Francis Scott Key Middle School in Silver Spring.

Students and residents also launched a petition to change the name to a Black historical figure, such as Harriet Tubman, who helped free slaves through the Underground Railroad, and to ditch Francis Scott Key.

“It’s important to learn about the wrongs he’s done and why he shouldn’t be honored through the name of a middle school,” an 8th-grade student wrote on the petition.

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I saw this coming. I made a comment about it early on in the thread. Its what these progressive American hating communist's do. Pure Evil.

 

[homecanner1]

New bridge will probably have a statue to the 6 illegals sacrificed and called the Buttigieg Memorial Bridge, because rampant ego demand$ it in exchange for tasks.

 

[CTFIREBATTCHIEF]

It would be nice if Congress would write and pass a law, that prohibits that bridge from being renamed when and if it's rebuilt.

 

[Hfcomms]

They have renamed many military bases thereby rewriting or erasing American history so you can bet this bridge if rebuilt isn't going to retain the same name either.

 

[Macgyver]

The DonJon Farrell 256 (250 ton) showed up today and apparently they are also in the process of loading a large crawler crane on a barge nearby.

The Weeks (that's the company name) 533 left NYC yesterday to head down. Thats a 5-600 ton crane barge.

Weeks 533 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[RememberGoliad]

bowel thrusters ... in rear.

Even our current WH occupant has those....and they're randomly activated!

 

[Techwreck]

Delays likely...

Baltimore Bridge Collapse: Container Ship "Potentially Atop High-Pressure Underwater Gas Line" | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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Baltimore Bridge Collapse: Container Ship "Potentially Atop High-Pressure Underwater Gas Line"​

BY TYLER DURDEN
SATURDAY, MAR 30, 2024 - 08:55 AM
The federal government authorized $60 million for salvage efforts for the 1.6-mile-long Francis Scott Key Bridge at the Port of Baltimore, which collapsed on Tuesday after being struck by a large container ship. A massive CIA-linked floating crane has arrived in Baltimore, Maryland, along with other cranes, and it will soon begin clearing the mangled bridge from the shipping channel, which has paralyzed the entire port.

The salvage operation may not begin as seamlessly as government officials hoped. As Captain John Konrad, CEO of gCaptain, a website specializing in tracking the shipping industry, states, the 984-foot Singapore-flagged container ship Dali is apparently "sitting atop a high-pressure underwater gas line."

"Sources at ICS reports ship salvage effort will likely be delayed while line is surveyed and additional risk can be assessed," Konrad wrote on social media platform

He said, "The weight of steel/concrete pinning down bow of the vessel is estimated to be 3-4 thousand tons."

The National Pipeline Mapping System database shows Konrad is correct about an underwater natural gas pipeline under the bridge.


Photos and maps at link, problems pulling over here.

 

[bw]

The National Pipeline Mapping System database shows Konrad is correct about an underwater natural gas pipeline under the bridge.

Could have been spectacular if they hit that while dragging the anchor.

 

[Plain Jane]

Photos and maps at link, problems pulling over here.

Got it.

Baltimore Bridge Collapse: Container Ship "Potentially Atop High-Pressure Underwater Gas Line"​

BY TYLER DURDEN
SATURDAY, MAR 30, 2024 - 09:55 AM
The federal government authorized $60 million for salvage efforts for the 1.6-mile-long Francis Scott Key Bridge at the Port of Baltimore, which collapsed on Tuesday after being struck by a large container ship. A massive CIA-linked floating crane has arrived in Baltimore, Maryland, along with other cranes, and it will soon begin clearing the mangled bridge from the shipping channel, which has paralyzed the entire port.

The salvage operation may not begin as seamlessly as government officials hoped. As Captain John Konrad, CEO of gCaptain, a website specializing in tracking the shipping industry, states, the 984-foot Singapore-flagged container ship Dali is apparently "sitting atop a high-pressure underwater gas line."


Konrad reported this late Friday night. He said this news will soon be released on the "state of Maryland's website."



The National Pipeline Mapping System database shows Konrad is correct about an underwater natural gas pipeline under the bridge.



Here's a regional view of the NatGas pipeline network.



Besides fears about salvage delays, there are mounting structural concerns about the vessel's hull and whether it's still seaworthiness.



Next week, President Biden will travel to the Francis Scott Key Bridge. Biden has been criticized for not visiting disaster sites in a timely fashion, including the toxic train disaster in East Palestine, Ohio.

(Tweets at the link)

 

[Macgyver]

Got it.

Baltimore Bridge Collapse: Container Ship "Potentially Atop High-Pressure Underwater Gas Line"​

BY TYLER DURDEN
SATURDAY, MAR 30, 2024 - 09:55 AM
The federal government authorized $60 million for salvage efforts for the 1.6-mile-long Francis Scott Key Bridge at the Port of Baltimore, which collapsed on Tuesday after being struck by a large container ship. A massive CIA-linked floating crane has arrived in Baltimore, Maryland, along with other cranes, and it will soon begin clearing the mangled bridge from the shipping channel, which has paralyzed the entire port.

The salvage operation may not begin as seamlessly as government officials hoped. As Captain John Konrad, CEO of gCaptain, a website specializing in tracking the shipping industry, states, the 984-foot Singapore-flagged container ship Dali is apparently "sitting atop a high-pressure underwater gas line."


Konrad reported this late Friday night. He said this news will soon be released on the "state of Maryland's website."



The National Pipeline Mapping System database shows Konrad is correct about an underwater natural gas pipeline under the bridge.



Here's a regional view of the NatGas pipeline network.



Besides fears about salvage delays, there are mounting structural concerns about the vessel's hull and whether it's still seaworthiness.



Next week, President Biden will travel to the Francis Scott Key Bridge. Biden has been criticized for not visiting disaster sites in a timely fashion, including the toxic train disaster in East Palestine, Ohio.

(Tweets at the link)

Most gas lines are installed well below the bottom.
And honestly if the gas company thought it was damaged it would have been turned off by now.

It's been warming up here so ng demand is going to be reduced anyway.

 

[bw]

Most gas lines are installed well below the bottom.

It was mentioned that this harbor has a very rocky bottom.

 

[Macgyver]

It was mentioned that this harbor has a very rocky bottom.

I don't know if there is anyway to lookup how it was installed.

It could have been trenched and backfilled or it could have been drilled horizontal from land.

 

[bw]

I don't know if there is anyway to lookup how it was installed.

It could have been trenched and backfilled or it could have been drilled horizontal from land.

Top men are looking into it. Top Men.

 

[energy_wave]

Great Youtube channel for info on the bridge and salvage.


What is Going on With Shipping?

https://www.youtube.com/@wgowshipping

Who Is In Charge of the Salvage in Baltimore?​

Rt 9:42

Dali Timeline from Data Recorder in Striking Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, March 26, 2024​

Rt 31:04

 

[Millwright]

I always see signs denoting a pipeline on both banks where it crosses a channel.

"DO NOT ANCHOR, DO NOT DREDGE"

 

[mecoastie]

I always see signs denoting a pipeline on both banks where it crosses a channel.

"DO NOT ANCHOR, DO NOT DREDGE"

They are also clearly marked on nav charts

 

[Countrymouse]

Got it.

Baltimore Bridge Collapse: Container Ship "Potentially Atop High-Pressure Underwater Gas Line"​

BY TYLER DURDEN
SATURDAY, MAR 30, 2024 - 09:55 AM
The federal government authorized $60 million for salvage efforts for the 1.6-mile-long Francis Scott Key Bridge at the Port of Baltimore, which collapsed on Tuesday after being struck by a large container ship. A massive CIA-linked floating crane has arrived in Baltimore, Maryland, along with other cranes, and it will soon begin clearing the mangled bridge from the shipping channel, which has paralyzed the entire port.

The salvage operation may not begin as seamlessly as government officials hoped. As Captain John Konrad, CEO of gCaptain, a website specializing in tracking the shipping industry, states, the 984-foot Singapore-flagged container ship Dali is apparently "sitting atop a high-pressure underwater gas line."


Konrad reported this late Friday night. He said this news will soon be released on the "state of Maryland's website."



The National Pipeline Mapping System database shows Konrad is correct about an underwater natural gas pipeline under the bridge.



Here's a regional view of the NatGas pipeline network.



Besides fears about salvage delays, there are mounting structural concerns about the vessel's hull and whether it's still seaworthiness.



Next week, President Biden will travel to the Francis Scott Key Bridge. Biden has been criticized for not visiting disaster sites in a timely fashion, including the toxic train disaster in East Palestine, Ohio.

(Tweets at the link)

Now WHO thought it would be a good idea to build a bridge RIGHT ON TOP OF a high-pressure natural gas line to BEGIN with???!?

 

[Knoxville's Joker]

Thanks! I had VHF in my notes, but just blindly typed VHS...LOL!

It's all analog and all good...

 

[packyderms_wife]

Woke America eyes booting Francis Scott Key's name from rebuilt Baltimore bridge​

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Replacing the Francis Scott Key Bridge will take years, billions of dollars and probably come with an entirely new name.

While much of the span remains submerged in the Patapsco River in Baltimore, there are already murmurs about naming the future bridge after someone other than Key, who wrote America’s national anthem and was a slave owner.

“President Joe Biden has pledged that the bridge will be rebuilt. Absolutely. Do that. But when it’s rebuilt, let’s rename it, too,” journalist Wayne Washington wrote in The Root, a Black news media site.

---

---

The bridge was named after Key in part because of its location.

According to the Maryland Preservation, historians believe the bridge stood within 100 yards of where Key was detained on the British flagship HMS Tonnant during the War of 1812, and where he wrote the poem that later became the “Star-Spangled Banner.”

But Key’s reputation has taken a hit in recent years along with other historical figures who owned slaves. Key also represented slaveholders in court and was a proponent of racist views.

As a lawyer, he also represented slaves seeking freedom and he asserted “all men are free.” But he held eight enslaved people when he died.

The National Park Service describes Key as having had “a conflicted relationship with slavery.”

There have been efforts for several years to strip Key’s name off buildings and to rid his likeness, particularly in the wake of the protests following the death of George Floyd, a Black man killed while in police custody.

Dozens of public buildings across the country have been renamed to rid them of connections to people who owned slaves or promoted segregation and racism. Congress also ordered the Pentagon to rename nine military installations as well as hundreds of streets and buildings associated with Confederate soldiers.

Many believe the collapse of the bridge will leave Key’s name buried along with it.

Rep. Mike Collins, Georgia Republican, asked his followers on social media to predict a name for the new bridge.

“Baltimore obviously won’t rename the new bridge after Francis Scott Key again,” he said.

A new bridge, some believe, should be named after other historical figures in Maryland such as Black abolitionists Frederick Douglass or Harriet Tubman, or perhaps Thurgood Marshall, the first Black Supreme Court Justice.

“We should not, in 2020-whenever-the-bridge-is-rebuilt, be naming things in honor of former slaveholders,” Mr. Washington wrote in The Root.

Key was a Maryland native and died in Baltimore, where a statue on N. Eutaw Street was erected in 1911.

The monument was splattered in red paint by activists in 2017 and tagged with the words “racist anthem” on its base.

Key’s poem that inspired the national anthem included four stanzas and some believe part of the third — “No refuge could save the hireling and slave/From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave” — was aimed at mocking slaves who were enticed by the British to join their side in exchange for refuge and land after the war ended.

Key has enough negative baggage to have landed on the target list for possible name changes to public schools in Montgomery County, Maryland.

County school officials have held public meetings to consider renaming six schools named after men who owned slaves, among them Francis Scott Key Middle School in Silver Spring.

Students and residents also launched a petition to change the name to a Black historical figure, such as Harriet Tubman, who helped free slaves through the Underground Railroad, and to ditch Francis Scott Key.

“It’s important to learn about the wrongs he’s done and why he shouldn’t be honored through the name of a middle school,” an 8th-grade student wrote on the petition.

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To really piss the blacks off, if it has to be renamed, name it after the Hispanics that lost their lives filling potholes on the bridge. After all they actually contributed something to society, unlike the black turd that’s bitching about key being a slave holder!

 

[CTFIREBATTCHIEF]

I'm going to spit ball this out there and then "duck and cover" afterwards *grin*.

Right now, the Fort McHenry tunnel has an 8 lane roadway with reversable lane capability. the Baltimore harbor tunnel has two lanes each direction. Fort McHenry tunnel was not opened until 1985 so the harbor tunnel and the key bridge took the whole load from 1977 to 1985.

You've lost two lanes each direction on the bridge but have the capability to run at least eight lanes right now in either direction using the reversable feature in the Fort McHenry tunnel to get through Baltimore. As for hazmats? you have the western leg of the existing beltway to move them now. A lot of trucks take that as it is because it is not tolled.

My back of the envelope spitballing opinion here. Clear the channel, using the insurance money to repay the money laid out up front to get the job moving. then the hell with the bridge. You save well over a billion or more in replacement cost and the upkeep to deal with the damn thing. Hazmats go west of baltimore,on the existing 695 beltway which has at least three lanes of traffic each way. you can reverse lanes on the Fort McHenry tunnel to deal with traffic flow as needed. Is it longer for hazmats vehicles south of 95 towards sparrows point to go around baltimore to the west, sure, but it's not all that much longer. If the trucking companies are smart, they'll add the added fuel and driver's cost into the manifest.

After all, doesn't this present administration *spit* WANT us out of our cars and on the train, or bicycles or walking? Why spend a whole bunch of our money to replace it. just take the insurance money like you would take a check on a totaled car and use it for something else.

Again, just spitballing

 

[Millwright]

Now WHO thought it would be a good idea to build a bridge RIGHT ON TOP OF a high-pressure natural gas line to BEGIN with???!?

The pipeline was probably put in after the bridge.

It's the best place, Captains are already exhibiting caution in the area, big boats wouldn't anchor near a bridge.

 

[Millwright]

They are also clearly marked on nav charts

Running the intercoastal, there are almost as many pipeline warnings as Bucee's billboards on I-45.

 

[bw]

Now WHO thought it would be a good idea to build a bridge RIGHT ON TOP OF a high-pressure natural gas line to BEGIN with???!?

It's a great place. In the normal course of events, no one is going to be anchoring there.

 

[Knoxville's Joker]

This event might prompt building a tunnel instead of a replacement bridge. Tunnel boring machines have changed the tunnel building game and agencies/companies affected by losing the Port of Baltimore will demand a tunnel instead of a bridge.

I foresee the Navy to be screaming very loudly that they don't want another bridge in that location.

They will have to borrow the D.U.M.B. boring technologies to ensure the tunnel can handel hazmat and other explosive loads. The point has great merit though...

 

[Millwright]

Tunnels aren't good for hazmat.

But, with the right kickbacks and corruption, somehow it could be approved.

 

[Wildweasel]

Even our current WH occupant has those....and they're randomly activated!

It all just Depends.

 

[Wildweasel]

Next week, President Biden will travel to the Francis Scott Key Bridge. Biden has been criticized for not visiting disaster sites in a timely fashion, including the toxic train disaster in East Palestine, Ohio.

"Where are the train tracks I used to ride over this bridge?"

 

[Knoxville's Joker]

Tunnels aren't good for hazmat.

But, with the right kickbacks and corruption, somehow it could be approved.

Well, if the Tunnel is made large enough and designed in a way that blasts are mitigated as in large enough for blasts to dissipate to prevent damage type stuff.

That is what gets me with the supposed woo D.U.M.B. boring tech, how do they handle quakes and terror attacks and explosions well? Maybe they already have it figured out and they are chomping at the bit to show off the technology to compete with Elon or something.

 

[Publius]

know it's only been a few days buy it's already sounding like the news media/press are going to milk this for all they can get out of it. I can't much for the construction people yet but may play out the same.

 

[Millwright]

Well, if the Tunnel is made large enough and designed in a way that blasts are mitigated as in large enough for blasts to dissipate to prevent damage type stuff.

That is what gets me with the supposed woo D.U.M.B. boring tech, how do they handle quakes and terror attacks and explosions well? Maybe they already have it figured out and they are chomping at the bit to show off the technology to compete with Elon or something.

It's more of a poison/chemical thing,

A chlorine gas leak would be a nightmare,

 

[Knoxville's Joker]

OK read through the thread and so far this is all I can come of things happening regarding the bridge collapse.

Ukrainian captain. Indian engineering crew(not unheard of but some folks will say lack of ability.) Funding bills failing for Ukraine. Though of note that many ukrainians want no connection with their home country, like the middle east, they want to wash their hands of the blood ties and bloodlust of their home country. Not to say that there was a blackmail deal going on, but the captain will be looked at hard and to pay attention to the findings or rather snippits of findings you never hear of again.

This has echoes of the Sinai evergrande beaching incident, the timing itself if very, very, very suspect given geopolitics.

Shipping industry has never recovered from the 2000, 2008, COVID/2021/22/20 economic crashes so there is no money to keep stuff well maintained so corners are cut constantly. The ship was involved in a prior impact incident and was cleared but ship master and pilot was blamed on the fault. There were also mentionings of ship having issues prior that may not have been properly fixed.

As far as the dirty fuel deal. Diesel fuel runs through filters. That is a given regardless of engine design. A filter failure could have caused some issues. BUt that diesel smoke and burnt diesel was smelled indicates a fuel line failure, not a bad fuel situation. This points to sabotage or just crappy maintenance schedules. Dirty Fuel if anything depending upont the nature of things may have allowed it to run richer or leaner. If it was kerosene versus diesel it would have burned up the pistons for lack of lubrication. If the filters failed and particles got through to the injectors it could have clogged fuel lines causing a possible line burst but they design stuff to be immune to that, so again points to bad maintenance procedures or no maintenance at all. That is from my limited understanding of smaller diesel engines, the bigger ones are not much different other than size and a few operational maintenance differences due to size and scope.

Lack of safety meausres on bridge pier because local politics prevented expenditures for infrastructure safety, this finding will come out later and will severely burn responsible parties. So it could have been an underhanded tactic to unseat the democrats or something else.

The bridge name is offensive to woke folks as the guy owned slaves despite him writing the national anthem.

This could have been a HAMAS deal as the Indians themselves could have been muslim and upset with US actions regarding Israel. It could also have been Israel coming back to bite us after we stabbed them in the back on the UN vote to tie their hands regarding Rafah.

This could have also been blowback from our backing on the attack in Russia, very possible depending upon the leanings of the Ukrainian captain.

The ship is bigger than the Enterprise captain Kirk operated. Any thrusting failure or intentional correction could have been amplified with a bad failure. But things point to intentional misdirection for damage on part of the ship.

That the folks at top are saying this is an intentional attack is telling. Before they even have all the official findings.

Plus DOT cut tugboat budgets by 40% and they would have been instrumental in stopping this from happening.

In short this happenstance was of our own administration and democrat failings. Outside of any external factors malfeasance and corruption could solely be blamed on it unfolding the way that it did.

My gut tells me that timing and everything else that this was intentional, I just can't find enough proof to back the feeling up.

 

[WalknTrot]

I'm going to spit ball this out there and then "duck and cover" afterwards *grin*.

Right now, the Fort McHenry tunnel has an 8 lane roadway with reversable lane capability. the Baltimore harbor tunnel has two lanes each direction. Fort McHenry tunnel was not opened until 1985 so the harbor tunnel and the key bridge took the whole load from 1977 to 1985.

You've lost two lanes each direction on the bridge but have the capability to run at least eight lanes right now in either direction using the reversable feature in the Fort McHenry tunnel to get through Baltimore. As for hazmats? you have the western leg of the existing beltway to move them now. A lot of trucks take that as it is because it is not tolled.

My back of the envelope spitballing opinion here. Clear the channel, using the insurance money to repay the money laid out up front to get the job moving. then the hell with the bridge. You save well over a billion or more in replacement cost and the upkeep to deal with the damn thing. Hazmats go west of baltimore,on the existing 695 beltway which has at least three lanes of traffic each way. you can reverse lanes on the Fort McHenry tunnel to deal with traffic flow as needed. Is it longer for hazmats vehicles south of 95 towards sparrows point to go around baltimore to the west, sure, but it's not all that much longer. If the trucking companies are smart, they'll add the added fuel and driver's cost into the manifest.

After all, doesn't this present administration *spit* WANT us out of our cars and on the train, or bicycles or walking? Why spend a whole bunch of our money to replace it. just take the insurance money like you would take a check on a totaled car and use it for something else.

Again, just spitballing

Agree. That's what I was seeing...once the wreckage is cleared and the harbor channel open again, it's time to re-assess needs. Right now, street traffic can flow with fairly close detours.

I do see a need for a certain amount of redundancy in such an overbuilt area with such a busy port, but in reality, there's no reason to bust butt making rash decisions. There's time to think things through, and another similar bridge in the same spot may not be the smartest option. A LOT changes in 50-60 years since the last one was built.

 

[packyderms_wife]

OK read through the thread and so far this is all I can come of things happening regarding the bridge collapse.

Ukrainian captain. Indian engineering crew(not unheard of but some folks will say lack of ability.) Funding bills failing for Ukraine. Though of note that many ukrainians want no connection with their home country, like the middle east, they want to wash their hands of the blood ties and bloodlust of their home country. Not to say that there was a blackmail deal going on, but the captain will be looked at hard and to pay attention to the findings or rather snippits of findings you never hear of again.

This has echoes of the Sinai evergrande beaching incident, the timing itself if very, very, very suspect given geopolitics.

Shipping industry has never recovered from the 2000, 2008, COVID/2021/22/20 economic crashes so there is no money to keep stuff well maintained so corners are cut constantly. The ship was involved in a prior impact incident and was cleared but ship master and pilot was blamed on the fault. There were also mentionings of ship having issues prior that may not have been properly fixed.

As far as the dirty fuel deal. Diesel fuel runs through filters. That is a given regardless of engine design. A filter failure could have caused some issues. BUt that diesel smoke and burnt diesel was smelled indicates a fuel line failure, not a bad fuel situation. This points to sabotage or just crappy maintenance schedules. Dirty Fuel if anything depending upont the nature of things may have allowed it to run richer or leaner. If it was kerosene versus diesel it would have burned up the pistons for lack of lubrication. If the filters failed and particles got through to the injectors it could have clogged fuel lines causing a possible line burst but they design stuff to be immune to that, so again points to bad maintenance procedures or no maintenance at all. That is from my limited understanding of smaller diesel engines, the bigger ones are not much different other than size and a few operational maintenance differences due to size and scope.

Lack of safety meausres on bridge pier because local politics prevented expenditures for infrastructure safety, this finding will come out later and will severely burn responsible parties. So it could have been an underhanded tactic to unseat the democrats or something else.

The bridge name is offensive to woke folks as the guy owned slaves despite him writing the national anthem.

This could have been a HAMAS deal as the Indians themselves could have been muslim and upset with US actions regarding Israel. It could also have been Israel coming back to bite us after we stabbed them in the back on the UN vote to tie their hands regarding Rafah.

This could have also been blowback from our backing on the attack in Russia, very possible depending upon the leanings of the Ukrainian captain.

The ship is bigger than the Enterprise captain Kirk operated. Any thrusting failure or intentional correction could have been amplified with a bad failure. But things point to intentional misdirection for damage on part of the ship.

That the folks at top are saying this is an intentional attack is telling. Before they even have all the official findings.

Plus DOT cut tugboat budgets by 40% and they would have been instrumental in stopping this from happening.

In short this happenstance was of our own administration and democrat failings. Outside of any external factors malfeasance and corruption could solely be blamed on it unfolding the way that it did.

My gut tells me that timing and everything else that this was intentional, I just can't find enough proof to back the feeling up.

There's a woo thread for this type of speculation in the Alt News forum.

 

[Walrus]

Most gas lines are installed well below the bottom.
And honestly if the gas company thought it was damaged it would have been turned off by now.

It's been warming up here so ng demand is going to be reduced anyway.

The pencil-pushers have already been hard at it, coming out of their normal skulking holes. They will throw roadblocks in front of every piece of actual productive work (all in the name of public safety and absolute guarantees, of course), and we'll see extra breakfast and lunch programs for the disenfranchised city schoolkids, free computers and scholarships for high schoolers, money thrown at beautifying the tenements which were built nicely but have since been trashed over and over again by generations of welfare takers, etc. so on and so on. In other words, innumerable projects and money will come out of the funds which will be thrown around. Only those with political critical mass will be able to latch onto their "fair shares".

I had to laugh when I saw that $60 million was set aside for salvage and cleanup. That amount was snapped up by the involved departments before they ever issued their first reports.

The ultimate cost of this boondoggle will be over $60 billion, and that's if the project is ever declared finished. The various levels of bureaucracy will feast on this until the governments quit functioning.

 

[jward]

USMC Lady Vet
@Arkypatriot

Bridge in Oklahoma shut down after being struck by barge - According to Oklahoma Highway Patrol, US-59 south of Sallisaw is shut down after a barge struck a bridge at the Kerr Reservoir. Bridge in Oklahoma shut down after being struck by barge
via @5NEWS

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1774158491411796315

View: https://twitter.com/Arkypatriot/status/1774158491411796315?s=20

 

[Millwright]

USMC Lady Vet
@Arkypatriot

Bridge in Oklahoma shut down after being struck by barge - According to Oklahoma Highway Patrol, US-59 south of Sallisaw is shut down after a barge struck a bridge at the Kerr Reservoir. Bridge in Oklahoma shut down after being struck by barge
via @5NEWS

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1774158491411796315

View: https://twitter.com/Arkypatriot/status/1774158491411796315?s=20

Part of the McClelland Kerr waterway/Marine highway system.

How there is a port near Tulsa.

Another bridge got taken down by a push-boat, south of there several years ago, killed several people.

ETA: from wiki

The I-40 bridge disaster was a bridge collapse that occurred southeast of Webbers Falls, Oklahoma, United States at 7:45 a.m. on May 26, 2002. Freight barges being transported on the Arkansas River collided with a pier supporting the Interstate 40 road bridge crossing the river. The resulting failure of the supports caused a section of the bridge to collapse, killing 14 people and injuring another 11. The collision was determined to have resulted from the captain of the barges' towboat losing consciousness.

A lady pulling a loaded horse trailer went over, killed her and the horses My dad was going that way, would have been there about that time, he took another route for some reason.

I-40 bridge disaster - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

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Part of the McClelland Kerr waterway/Marine highway system.

How there is a port near Tulsa.

Another bridge got taken down by a push-boat, south of there several years ago, killed several people.

ETA: from wiki

The I-40 bridge disaster was a bridge collapse that occurred southeast of Webbers Falls, Oklahoma, United States at 7:45 a.m. on May 26, 2002. Freight barges being transported on the Arkansas River collided with a pier supporting the Interstate 40 road bridge crossing the river. The resulting failure of the supports caused a section of the bridge to collapse, killing 14 people and injuring another 11. The collision was determined to have resulted from the captain of the barges' towboat losing consciousness.

A lady pulling a loaded horse trailer went over, killed her and the horses My dad was going that way, would have been there about that time, he took another route for some reason.

I-40 bridge disaster - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Is this the new train derailment trend alternative? I don't remember this stuff getting televised soo much before...

 

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If they intend to do any blasting I would like to see the ship removed first. If it is resting above the pipeline the shocks of the blasts may cause it to settle further, changing the distribution of force on the gas line. What is not broke now may be broke then.

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