EBOLA DR BEING TESTED FOR EBOLA IN NYC

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psychgirl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
This one, to me, rings as that the Dr is infected. What an idiot. And here I "thought" I was going to answer on the "all clear thread" that it was over, too....NOT.

Melodi, GREAT write up as always. Thanks for that!
To Ironskull, well I did have to chuckle out loud at your post but then thought better of it because if you truly ARE having chest pains then you need to TAKE A BREAK and let someone else carry the water for you over this mess, ok??
 

Cascadians

Leska Emerald Adams
Ack, Subway

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/24/n...-bellevue-hospital-in-new-york-city.html?_r=0

" ... Mr. Spencer went to a bowling alley in Brooklyn on Wednesday evening, according to a city official briefed on the contact tracing efforts. He took the subway to Brooklyn and a taxi home. ...

Dr. Spencer began to feel sluggish on Tuesday but did not develop a fever until Thursday morning, he told the authorities. At 11 a.m., the doctor found that he had a 103-degree temperature and alerted the staff of Doctors Without Borders, according to the official. ... ... ... ... ... ... "
 

TxGal

Day by day
A thought for any NYC TB2Kers -

If this case does turn out to be a positive, needless to say it will be unnerving, frightening, paranoia-inducing. It will make you think twice before, during, and after stepping out your front door every single time. You will look at people a little differently...strangers become possible contactees and therefore possibly infective. It will shake your confidence in just about everything. If you have children your natural protective instinct will kick into overdrive. They need to know you aren't scared, but are prepared and will keep them safe.

We in Texas just went through this, and to a certain extent now we still are and maybe always will. Relying on your knowledge, training, and faith will be what keeps you on an even keel. Keep up with the news, particularly here, but keep doing what you need to do using the precautions that make sense for you and yours. We've found that taking positive action helps a lot in keeping the natural stress of the situation at bay.

Take an inventory of your preps, see what holes you may have and do what you can to fill those holes. Shop when the crowds are normally low, but don't wait too long in case there is a herd of sheeple catching up. Keep your wipes in your car, practice social distancing, eat right and try to rest when you can. Your nerves will be frayed, you will be on a heightened sense of awareness, but that is a natural survival instinct and can serve you well. Having as much control over your personal situation as possible, and that includes the strength that comes from family, faith, and prepping, will keep you strong.
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This is a great time to break out or acquire at-home activities. Books, games, crafts, puzzles, DVDs, whatever you and yours enjoy will go a long way to maintaining balance. Amazon is your friend if you are short on activities. We cranked up food preservation and are canning and dehydrating like crazy. It helps with preps, demands full attention, and gives a sense of accomplishment. And to a certain extent, control over our personal environment. Find those things you enjoy and embrace them. It'll stop you from being on the internet for hours on end and running around like your hair is on fire.

It will be a rough ride if it's a positive case, but you can handle it. :-)
 

breezyhill

Veteran Member
I am Marie. Just took a pill. I am just so pissed at my kids for not heeding the warnings and now putting my precious grandson in danger. What is wrong with them?

ironskull, I feel your pain. my 30-something daughter left 10 days ago for a trip to europe that was planned for in early september. I reasoned, I pleaded, I guit-tripped, I exerted parental authority...nada, I got nowhere. I've been prepping for the better part of 20 years. she doesn't get it. yeah, those little white pills are good for something. it doesn't take away the worry, but at least I can stop hyperventilating...

p.s. her plane just landed in chicago. I used flightaware to track her flight to and from europe. that's a pretty cool site.
 

psychgirl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
A thought for any NYC TB2Kers -

If this case does turn out to be a positive, needless to say it will be unnerving, frightening, paranoia-inducing. It will make you think twice before, during, and after stepping out your front door every single time. You will look at people a little differently...strangers become possible contactees and therefore possibly infective. It will shake your confidence in just about everything. If you have children your natural protective instinct will kick into overdrive. They need to know you aren't scared, but are prepared and will keep them safe.

We in Texas just went through this, and to a certain extent now we still are and maybe always will. Relying on your knowledge, training, and faith will be what keeps you on an even keel. Keep up with the news, particularly here, but keep doing what you need to do using the precautions that make sense for you and yours. We've found that taking positive action helps a lot in keeping the natural stress of the situation at bay.

Take an inventory of your preps, see what holes you may have and do what you can to fill those holes. Shop when the crowds are normally low, but don't wait too long in case there is a herd of sheeple catching up. Keep your wipes in your car, practice social distancing, eat right and try to rest when you can. Your nerves will be frayed, you will be on a heightened sense of awareness, but that is a natural survival instinct and can serve you well. Having as much control over your personal situation as possible, and that includes the strength that comes from family, faith, and prepping, will keep you strong.
...
This is a great time to break out or acquire at-home activities. Books, games, crafts, puzzles, DVDs, whatever you and yours enjoy will go a long way to maintaining balance. Amazon is your friend if you are short on activities. We cranked up food preservation and are canning and dehydrating like crazy. It helps with preps, demands full attention, and gives a sense of accomplishment. And to a certain extent, control over our personal environment. Find those things you enjoy and embrace them. It'll stop you from being on the internet for hours on end and running around like your hair is on fire.

It will be a rough ride if it's a positive case, but you can handle it. :-)

Thank you for this....I don't live in NYC, but do have relatives there of my hub. Your words are very calming and wise..
 

Used Camels

Inactive
I've said it before ... and surely the authorities are perfectly aware ...

"Human nature" and "best intentions" of those who are potential Ebola patients are in direct conflict with each other here. It is either extreme naivete or outright malevolence on the part of political leaders and the WHO and CDC to simply put the full responsibility of maintaining effective quarantine control conditions on the shoulders of individuals in the population, even for those who are medical professionals.

Why?

Number one--of course every one of us is "special". Something as terrible as Ebola won't or can't actually happen to us. If that was possible, by golly, we wouldn't have put ourselves in harms way in the first place. Many of us in fact are very educated and know better than to actually get infected.

Number two--the self-monitoring and voluntary quarantining requests are perfectly logical in a general sense, but really, we (I) have a very busy life. I can't be expected to drop EVERYTHING for three weeks. Get real! After all, I am special (see #1) and I won't actually get sick anyway.

Number three--if I do start to exhibit symptoms of some kind, I have to, for as long as possible, deny they can actually be Ebola manifesting. If I deny it, it will go away. And if it does become obvious that denial isn't working, then I am probably going to panic and not be concerned about maintaining some set of protocols that were intended for someone else. After all, I am special (see #1) and I need treatment now, damn the other repercussions.
 

Walkin' Away

Senior Member
Maric---

I just remembered your update on what your DH had said about the east and "the plague."

Does he have anything new to report?

Just wondering....Take Care All,

W.A.
 

Cascadians

Leska Emerald Adams
Dr was sluggish with fever, nausea and gastrointestinal issues while riding subway to Brooklyn Wednesday evening.
 

nchomemaker

Veteran Member
Patient in New York City Tests Positive for Ebola



By MARC SANTORAOCT. 23, 2014



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Dr. Craig Spencer was transported from his apartment on West 147th Street in Harlem to Bellevue Hospital on Thursday. Credit Ozier Muhammad/The New York Times






A doctor in New York City who recently returned from treating Ebola patients in Guinea tested positive for the Ebola virus Thursday, becoming the city’s first diagnosed case.

The doctor, Craig Spencer, was rushed to Bellevue Hospital on Thursday and placed in isolation while health care workers spread out across the city to trace anyone he might have come into contact with in recent days. A further test will be conducted by the federal Centers for Disease Control to confirm the initial test.

While officials have said they expected isolated cases of the disease to arrive in New York eventually, and had been preparing for this moment for months, the first case highlighted the challenges surrounding containment of the virus, especially in a crowded metropolis.

Even as the authorities worked to confirm that Mr. Spencer was infected with Ebola, it emerged that he traveled from Manhattan to Brooklyn on the subway on Wednesday night, when he went to a bowling alley and then took a taxi home.


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The next morning, he reported having a temperature of 103 degrees, raising questions about his health while he was out in public.

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A photo of Dr. Craig Spencer posted on his Facebook page.

A person infected with Ebola cannot spread the disease until they begin to display symptoms, and it cannot be spread through the air. As the person becomes sicker, the viral load in the body builds, and they become more and more contagious.

Dr. Spencer’s travel history and the timing of the onset of his symptoms led health officials to dispatch “disease detectives immediately began to actively trace all of the patient’s contacts to identify anyone who may be at potential risk,” according to a statement released by the department.

It was unclear if the city was trying to find people who might have come into contact with Dr. Spencer on the subway. The Metropolitan Transportation Authority directed all questions to the health department, which did not immediately respond to requests for comment on the issue.

At Dr. Spencer’s apartment in Harlem, his home was sealed off and workers distributed informational fliers about the disease. It was not clear if anyone was being quarantined.



Health authorities declined to say how many people in total might have come into contact with Dr. Spencer while he was symptomatic.

Mayor Bill de Blasio, speaking at a press conference Thursday evening before the diagnosis, said Dr. Spencer has given health workers a detailed accounting of his activities over the last few days.

“Our understanding is that very few people were in direct contact with him,” Mr. de Blasio said.

Dr. Spencer had been working with Doctors Without Borders in Guinea, treating Ebola patients, before returning to New York City on Oct. 14, according to a city official.

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A photograph of Mr. Spencer on his LinkedIn page.

He told the authorities that he did not believe the protective gear he wore while working with Ebola patients had been breached but had been monitoring his own health.

Doctors Without Borders, in a statement, said it provides guidelines for its staff on their return from Ebola assignments, but did not elaborate on those protocols.



“The individual engaged in regular health monitoring and reported this development immediately,” the group said in a statement.

Dr. Spencer began to feel sluggish on Tuesday but did not develop a fever until Thursday morning, he told the authorities. At 11 a.m., the doctor found that he had a 103-degree temperature and alerted the staff of Doctors Without Borders, according to the official.

The staff of Doctors Without Borders called the city’s health department, which in turn called the Fire Department.

Emergency medical workers, wearing full personal protective gear, rushed to Dr. Spencer’s apartment, on West 147th Street. He was transported to Bellevue and arrived shortly after 1 p.m.

He was placed in a special isolation unit and is being seen by the pre-designated medical critical care team. They are in personal protective equipment with undergarment air ventilation systems.

Bellevue doctors have prepared for an Ebola patient with numerous drills and tests using “test patients” as well as actual treatment of suspected cases that turned out to be false alarms.

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Bellevue Hospital has been designated the center for treatment of the Ebola virus in New York City. Credit Joshua Bright for The New York Times

A health care worker at the hospital said that Dr. Spencer seemed very sick and it was unclear to the medical staff why he had not gone to the hospital earlier, since his fever was high, at 103.

Dr. Spencer is a fellow of international emergency medicine at NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital/Columbia University Medical Center, and an instructor in clinical medicine at Columbia University.

“He is a committed and responsible physician who always puts his patients first,” the hospital said in a statement. “He has not been to work at our hospital and has not seen any patients at our hospital since his return from overseas.”

Even before the diagnosis, the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention dispatched a team of experts to assist in the case, before the test results were even known.

More than 30 people have gone to city hospitals and raised suspicions of Ebola, but in all those cases, health workers were able to rule it out without a blood test.

While the city stepped up its laboratory capacity so it can get test results within four to six hours, because of the precautions that need to be taken when drawing blood and treating a person possibly sick with Ebola, it took until late in the evening to confirm the diagnosis..

But doctors said that even before the results came in, it seemed likely that he was infected. Symptoms usually occur within eight to 10 days infection and Dr. Spencer was home nine days when he reported feeling ill.

Ebola is transmitted through bodily fluids and secretions, including blood, mucus, feces and vomit.

Continue here: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/24/n...-bellevue-hospital-in-new-york-city.html?_r=0
 

JohnGaltfla

#NeverTrump
HOLY FLIRKINGSHMIDT:

Patient in New York City Tests Positive for Ebola

:siren::siren::siren::siren::siren::siren:

And equity futures go south on the news...

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breezyhill

Veteran Member
anderson cooper on cnn just said major announcement from new york mayor is coming up any minute now. wonder what it could be? they said it would be 12 hours before the test results on the doc came in.
 

TxGal

Day by day
NY Times is reporting he's positive...

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/24/n...ital-in-new-york-city.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

"A doctor in New York City who recently returned from treating Ebola patients in Guinea tested positive for the Ebola virus Thursday, becoming the city’s first diagnosed case.

The doctor, Craig Spencer, was rushed to Bellevue Hospital on Thursday and placed in isolation while health care workers spread out across the city to trace anyone he might have come into contact with in recent days. A further test will be conducted by the federal Centers for Disease Control to confirm the initial test.
While officials have said they expected isolated cases of the disease to arrive in New York eventually, and had been preparing for this moment for months, the first case highlighted the challenges surrounding containment of the virus, especially in a crowded metropolis.

Even as the authorities worked to confirm that Mr. Spencer was infected with Ebola, it emerged that he traveled from Manhattan to Brooklyn on the subway on Wednesday night, when he went to a bowling alley and then took a taxi home......"

Very long article, and it looks like an advanced edition. I'm wondering if it's bogus, but it's out there...
 

Sully

Veteran Member
Even many people with the flu go out in public and Ebola spreads as easily as the flu.

And if Ebola lives on hard surfaces for a few hours, just think of all the people who probably came in contact with the money that he has spent here and there....bills and coins.

Sully
 

TxGal

Day by day
Initial test positive:

From breakingnews.com

Doctor in New York City positive for Ebola virus in initial tests - @nytimes, @ABC, @NBCNews
Read more on nytimes.com
 

mzkitty

I give up.
2h
Health officials say girlfriend of doctor being tested for Ebola in New York has been quarantined as precaution - @NBCNews
 

maric

Short but deadly
Maric---

I just remembered your update on what your DH had said about the east and "the plague."

Does he have anything new to report?

Just wondering....Take Care All,

W.A.
No. The visions come when God wants them to. I'll post when it happens again.
 

shinerbock

Innocent Bystander
Not surprised with CDC haste, double-testing. Doctors who volunteer to fight Ebola in W. Africa will get the speediest and very best. Evidently they are the only ones that will be reported. Not sure @ this point just how I feel about this.

So young and his girlfriend...
 
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nchomemaker

Veteran Member
I hope this has absolutely nothing to do with the thread in the bomb shelter. Maybe has family there and went to see them when he got back from Africa? God I hope not!
 

TxGal

Day by day
Presser coming up:

Officials to hold press conference at 9 pm ET after patient tests positive for Ebola in New York City - @NYCMayorsOffice
 

maric

Short but deadly
Thank you for this....I don't live in NYC, but do have relatives there of my hub. Your words are very calming and wise..

Not only do I have family there but I'm about 250 miies away. Not to mention the fact that a lot of people from around here commute.
 

eXe

Techno Junkie
ABC News ‏@ABC 4m4 minutes ago

JUST IN: NY Gov. Cuomo, NYC Mayor de Blasio to speak at 9 p.m. ET from NYC hospital where sickened doctor has tested positive for Ebola.

And of course.. our own John Galt :)

johngaltfla.com ‏@johngaltfla 1m1 minute ago

10.23 20:32 ET BREAKING NEWS: New York City Has First Positive Test for Ebola http://wp.me/p1ybp5-5Ai
 

shinerbock

Innocent Bystander
I hope this has absolutely nothing to do with the thread in the bomb shelter. Maybe has family there and went to see them when he got back from Africa? God I hope not!

His girl friend is already quarantined in NYC @ Bellevue where the doctor is.
 

Dash

Veteran Member
This DOCTOR should be criminally prosecuted if he lives and even one other person in NYC turns up infected. He should know better. How selfish! What if wrong with people?
 

Used Camels

Inactive
This DOCTOR should be criminally prosecuted if he lives and even one other person in NYC turns up infected. He should know better. How selfish! What if wrong with people?

I've said it before ... and surely the authorities are perfectly aware ...

"Human nature" and "best intentions" of those who are potential Ebola patients are in direct conflict with each other here. It is either extreme naivete or outright malevolence on the part of political leaders and the WHO and CDC to simply put the full responsibility of maintaining effective quarantine control conditions on the shoulders of individuals in the population, even for those who are medical professionals.

Why?

Number one--of course every one of us is "special". Something as terrible as Ebola won't or can't actually happen to us. If that was possible, by golly, we wouldn't have put ourselves in harms way in the first place. Many of us in fact are very educated and know better than to actually get infected.

Number two--the self-monitoring and voluntary quarantining requests are perfectly logical in a general sense, but really, we (I) have a very busy life. I can't be expected to drop EVERYTHING for three weeks. Get real! After all, I am special (see #1) and I won't actually get sick anyway.

Number three--if I do start to exhibit symptoms of some kind, I have to, for as long as possible, deny they can actually be Ebola manifesting. If I deny it, it will go away. And if it does become obvious that denial isn't working, then I am probably going to panic and not be concerned about maintaining some set of protocols that were intended for someone else. After all, I am special (see #1) and I need treatment now, damn the other repercussions.
 
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