helen
Panic Sex Lady
No your not Helen found these hanging in the BS, I knew they had to be yours...
Imagine frosty silence aimed in your direction, Bob.
Panic Sex Lady estimates those panties to be several sizes off the mark ...
EBOLA BIG DAY FOR DALLAS
- Thread starter Bubble Head
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Imagine frosty silence aimed in your direction, Bob.
Panic Sex Lady estimates those panties to be several sizes off the mark ...
And the most recent news, posted on one of the other threads, is that another benefactor is going to provide them a rental house but they will not be moving into it for a few days.
So no later than about 12 minutes from now, they WILL be OUT of the 21 day isolation/quarantine. They will be staying in the same location for a few more days until they can move into the rental home that is being provided to them. If they wished to do so they could now come and go freely with no restrictions.
Oh and Bubble Head, the 21 day isolation/quarantine *is* the norm and has been since the first Ebola outbreak in 1976. The 42 day counter only kicks in as a way to determine when to declare an end to an outbreak in a specific area. It is counted from the death of the last infected individual or from the point the last infected, but recovering individual no longer shows signs of Ebola in the bloodstream. If any new cases do pop up the 42 day counter starts over.
The current 42 day counter for the Dallas area ends on Thursday, November 27, 2014...Thanksgiving Day.
hope4mil
Veteran Member
Here is a current photo of Youngor Jallah and I believe that would be her 2 year old son, Prophet.
This is from the story below.
Hope
Family of first US Ebola victim tell of dispiriting public reaction to their plight
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/19/family-first-us-ebola-victim-dispiritng-public-reaction
Youngor Jallah, the daughter of Eric Duncan’s fiance, has faced hostility and fear during her family’s three weeks in quarantine
Jon Swaine in Dallas
Follow @jonswaine Follow @GuardianUS
theguardian.com, Sunday 19 October 2014 15.37 EDT
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Youngor Jallah Youngor Jallah’s mother, Louise Troh, was the fiancee of Thomas Eric Duncan, the first person to die from Ebola in the US. Photograph: Youngor Jallah
Before her fiance became the first person to die from Ebola in the US, Louise Troh was like a surrogate mother to Esther Toe, who had emigrated to Texas from their native Liberia with no family and little money.
“This is your sister,” Troh told Youngor Jallah, her real daughter, when Jallah arrived from west Africa to join them both among the Liberian expatriate community of north-east Dallas, in 2006.
While becoming a proud grandmother to Jallah’s four children, Troh helped Toe through her own pregnancies. As their families grew older and closer, living in the same apartment complex, Toe’s children would dash up the dusty steps to Jallah’s home after school, to ask for candy.
Then, earlier this month, Troh’s fiance, Thomas Eric Duncan, was diagnosed with the deadly virus. Everything changed. That day, Toe, 31, “was standing outside our apartment and telling her kids: ‘Do not go in that house any more, because that house is an Ebola house’,” said Jallah, 35, who lived about a mile away from her mother and Duncan.
“I was so discouraged,” she said with a sigh, sitting on a plastic chair outside her door on a run-down estate this weekend. The pair have not spoken since.
The crushing reaction from a dear friend has left Jallah fearful for how her mother, and the three people who lived with her and Duncan, will be received by the public after they end 21 days of state-mandated quarantine at a house in an undisclosed Dallas location at midnight on Sunday. None has shown symptoms of infection.
“I don’t know where I am going to go,” Troh, who has lost a deposit on a new apartment to which she was planning to move before the crisis, told Jallah in a telephone conversation on Saturday. “I don’t know if I have a choice.”
But above all, she said of Duncan: “I miss him so much.”
Troh, her 13-year-old son and two young men who were staying with them have been confined to the grounds of a modest house donated for three weeks by a member of Wilshire Baptist church, which Troh attends. African-style meals have been delivered by congregants. George Mason, the church’s pastor, is raising funds to replace belongings that had to be destroyed.
A relative said Troh, 54, had been listening to music, reading books including the Bible, and watching a small television that was provided after a while by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), whose officials have been taking the temperatures of the four twice a day. Troh’s housemates are said to have been playing video games and throwing a football.
Anxiety about their future is shared by senior officials in this north Texas city, where the infection with Ebola of two nurses who treated Duncan at Texas Health Presbyterian hospital has set some people on edge. Mayor Mike Rawlings on Friday convened a conference call with dozens of religious leaders and asked them to urge their congregations to show compassion to Troh and her family.
Rex Howe, a pastor who was on the call, said Rawlings expressed concern that local reaction had shifted from caution to fear.
“He said that the encouragement should be not to ostracise certain members of the community,” said Howe. “We need to be informed and compassionate as we think through our response to this.”
Already, stories abound of people mistaken for relatives of Duncan having stones thrown at their homes, and of distant family members being verbally abused.
Rawlings also requested that Dr John Carlo, a former medical director for Dallas County who is now the chief executive of an HIV/Aids prevention non-profit, address the clerics after him to share his experiences.
“We deal with this stigma around infectious diseases every day,” said Carlo. “It’s critical that people be cognisant that we just tend to stigmatise people because of them.”
Jallah, her husband Aaron and their four children, who are aged between two and 11, are among 48 people to have been monitored for the 21 days until as late as Sunday night, because they came into contact with Duncan before he was hospitalised. Another 75 healthcare workers at the hospital, who had contact with Duncan up to his death on 8 October, remain under monitoring and have been asked to sign agreements stating that they will avoid public transport and crowds.
After bringing Duncan crackers and Gatorade as he became more and more sick, it was Jallah who called 911 for the ambulance that took him back to the hospital on 30 September. Four days earlier, he had been sent home with antibiotics after visiting the hospital’s emergency room.
Jallah’s family, too, have received visits each morning by CDC officials for temperature checks, and have been asked to call in with their own afternoon readings. After being confined to their apartment for almost two weeks, they were allowed to move around outside about a week ago, she said.
The response from people they have encountered since then has been dispiriting, said Jallah. Neighbours flee when they leave to take out their trash. One cable engineer sent out to install their internet service dumped his equipment and drove off after being warned they were infected with Ebola.
His replacement shunned the family and covered himself “from head to toe” with hand sanitiser as he left, said Jallah. “I told him its OK, everybody wants to be protected.” The managers of their apartment tried to avoid repairing their broken refrigerator by asking Jallah to store food in the refrigerator in a vacant apartment opposite, she said.
Her three eldest children – Joe Joe, 11, Rose, six, and King, four – were pulled out of schools on orders of the CDC and are due to return to classes on Monday. Jallah, who also has a two-year-old son, Prophet, is concerned about how the “Ebola kids” will be treated by their classmates on the bus.
“I’m worrying so much,” she said. “But I’m hopeful, because I don’t know what else to do.”
The family would make a fresh start somewhere else, she said, but “we don’t have the money to move. We work from paycheck to paycheck”. While being monitored for possible symptoms, she and Aaron have been unable to work and have gone unpaid.
Dallas County judge Clay Jenkins, who has taken a keen interest in the status of Troh and her family, described them as “gracious, dignified people, who are bearing a burden”. He said he had asked one of his officials to help find Troh new accommodation, and stressed that whatever the reaction of the community to their release to normal life, their freedom from Monday would be bittersweet.
“It’s going to be a great day for them, because it’s just been hanging over their heads like a knife, like a dangling knife for 21 days,” said Jenkins. “But let’s not forget that for Louise and those three young men, they lost someone that they love very much.”
This is from the story below.
Hope
Family of first US Ebola victim tell of dispiriting public reaction to their plight
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/19/family-first-us-ebola-victim-dispiritng-public-reaction
Youngor Jallah, the daughter of Eric Duncan’s fiance, has faced hostility and fear during her family’s three weeks in quarantine
Jon Swaine in Dallas
Follow @jonswaine Follow @GuardianUS
theguardian.com, Sunday 19 October 2014 15.37 EDT
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Youngor Jallah Youngor Jallah’s mother, Louise Troh, was the fiancee of Thomas Eric Duncan, the first person to die from Ebola in the US. Photograph: Youngor Jallah
Before her fiance became the first person to die from Ebola in the US, Louise Troh was like a surrogate mother to Esther Toe, who had emigrated to Texas from their native Liberia with no family and little money.
“This is your sister,” Troh told Youngor Jallah, her real daughter, when Jallah arrived from west Africa to join them both among the Liberian expatriate community of north-east Dallas, in 2006.
While becoming a proud grandmother to Jallah’s four children, Troh helped Toe through her own pregnancies. As their families grew older and closer, living in the same apartment complex, Toe’s children would dash up the dusty steps to Jallah’s home after school, to ask for candy.
Then, earlier this month, Troh’s fiance, Thomas Eric Duncan, was diagnosed with the deadly virus. Everything changed. That day, Toe, 31, “was standing outside our apartment and telling her kids: ‘Do not go in that house any more, because that house is an Ebola house’,” said Jallah, 35, who lived about a mile away from her mother and Duncan.
“I was so discouraged,” she said with a sigh, sitting on a plastic chair outside her door on a run-down estate this weekend. The pair have not spoken since.
The crushing reaction from a dear friend has left Jallah fearful for how her mother, and the three people who lived with her and Duncan, will be received by the public after they end 21 days of state-mandated quarantine at a house in an undisclosed Dallas location at midnight on Sunday. None has shown symptoms of infection.
“I don’t know where I am going to go,” Troh, who has lost a deposit on a new apartment to which she was planning to move before the crisis, told Jallah in a telephone conversation on Saturday. “I don’t know if I have a choice.”
But above all, she said of Duncan: “I miss him so much.”
Troh, her 13-year-old son and two young men who were staying with them have been confined to the grounds of a modest house donated for three weeks by a member of Wilshire Baptist church, which Troh attends. African-style meals have been delivered by congregants. George Mason, the church’s pastor, is raising funds to replace belongings that had to be destroyed.
A relative said Troh, 54, had been listening to music, reading books including the Bible, and watching a small television that was provided after a while by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), whose officials have been taking the temperatures of the four twice a day. Troh’s housemates are said to have been playing video games and throwing a football.
Anxiety about their future is shared by senior officials in this north Texas city, where the infection with Ebola of two nurses who treated Duncan at Texas Health Presbyterian hospital has set some people on edge. Mayor Mike Rawlings on Friday convened a conference call with dozens of religious leaders and asked them to urge their congregations to show compassion to Troh and her family.
Rex Howe, a pastor who was on the call, said Rawlings expressed concern that local reaction had shifted from caution to fear.
“He said that the encouragement should be not to ostracise certain members of the community,” said Howe. “We need to be informed and compassionate as we think through our response to this.”
Already, stories abound of people mistaken for relatives of Duncan having stones thrown at their homes, and of distant family members being verbally abused.
Rawlings also requested that Dr John Carlo, a former medical director for Dallas County who is now the chief executive of an HIV/Aids prevention non-profit, address the clerics after him to share his experiences.
“We deal with this stigma around infectious diseases every day,” said Carlo. “It’s critical that people be cognisant that we just tend to stigmatise people because of them.”
Jallah, her husband Aaron and their four children, who are aged between two and 11, are among 48 people to have been monitored for the 21 days until as late as Sunday night, because they came into contact with Duncan before he was hospitalised. Another 75 healthcare workers at the hospital, who had contact with Duncan up to his death on 8 October, remain under monitoring and have been asked to sign agreements stating that they will avoid public transport and crowds.
After bringing Duncan crackers and Gatorade as he became more and more sick, it was Jallah who called 911 for the ambulance that took him back to the hospital on 30 September. Four days earlier, he had been sent home with antibiotics after visiting the hospital’s emergency room.
Jallah’s family, too, have received visits each morning by CDC officials for temperature checks, and have been asked to call in with their own afternoon readings. After being confined to their apartment for almost two weeks, they were allowed to move around outside about a week ago, she said.
The response from people they have encountered since then has been dispiriting, said Jallah. Neighbours flee when they leave to take out their trash. One cable engineer sent out to install their internet service dumped his equipment and drove off after being warned they were infected with Ebola.
His replacement shunned the family and covered himself “from head to toe” with hand sanitiser as he left, said Jallah. “I told him its OK, everybody wants to be protected.” The managers of their apartment tried to avoid repairing their broken refrigerator by asking Jallah to store food in the refrigerator in a vacant apartment opposite, she said.
Her three eldest children – Joe Joe, 11, Rose, six, and King, four – were pulled out of schools on orders of the CDC and are due to return to classes on Monday. Jallah, who also has a two-year-old son, Prophet, is concerned about how the “Ebola kids” will be treated by their classmates on the bus.
“I’m worrying so much,” she said. “But I’m hopeful, because I don’t know what else to do.”
The family would make a fresh start somewhere else, she said, but “we don’t have the money to move. We work from paycheck to paycheck”. While being monitored for possible symptoms, she and Aaron have been unable to work and have gone unpaid.
Dallas County judge Clay Jenkins, who has taken a keen interest in the status of Troh and her family, described them as “gracious, dignified people, who are bearing a burden”. He said he had asked one of his officials to help find Troh new accommodation, and stressed that whatever the reaction of the community to their release to normal life, their freedom from Monday would be bittersweet.
“It’s going to be a great day for them, because it’s just been hanging over their heads like a knife, like a dangling knife for 21 days,” said Jenkins. “But let’s not forget that for Louise and those three young men, they lost someone that they love very much.”
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Songbird7777777
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CountryMouse, I am just as concerned as the next one, but, I refuse to worry and fret!
There are more than enough false statements, twisted stories and speculation here to put a lot of people in a panic.
I read a lot of statements and suspicions here and some of the suspicions I wonder about, too, but, I won't panic over them.
The truth will come out! God is still in control! Those of us that are Christians are told over and over in scripture not to worry and not to fear. It is a sin! I admit, sometimes fear tries to take root but I give it to the Lord before it does!
Someone else mentioned on another thread that they are surprised at the responses of fear demonstrated on this board as this is the one of the types of things that many on this board has been teaching us to prepare for. I am surprised, also, of the fear and panic here!
We just have to trust the Lord's promise that He will guide us! As His children He will not leave us alone and if it is our time to go, well, there is nothing we can do about it.
I mentioned on a post not to long ago that one of our preps should be preparing to die because no one is promised tomorrow!
I look at the thread Dennis started for those members that have passed away and although I don't know most, every time another one is added, I think did they spend a lot of time, years possibly, on the message boards tied up in knots and fear and worry and stock piling only to die before anything ever happened. How sad if that is the case!
Yes, be concerned and watch and research, but don't freak out! Don't take everything as gospel, but, look for other confirmations!
I know the government is lying to us big time! They have been for a long time! But there are always those that come out with the truth eventually!
Be at peace, Countrymouse! GOD HAD EVERYTHING UNDER CONTROL!
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Songbird7777777
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Thank you for posting this article!
hope4mil
Veteran Member
Helen, that was my post #38, with the picture of the blonde pictured at an airport. I thought no one else but me was concerned about another possible vector to spread this Ebola. I am glad that you agree that this person, probably Duncan's half sister, Mai Wureh, is a big deal She could now be showing symptoms of Ebola.
I finally found the source of that photo, and it says that it was taken at Dallas Airport, so the blonde must have met him there and took him to Louise Troh's apartment.
Hope
PICTURE EXCLUSIVE: The moment Ebola landed in America.
15 days ago virus victim Thomas Duncan was warmly greeted by a relative at Dallas airport. Today he is fighting for his life and she is just one of a hundred people he put at risk too
Thomas Eric Duncan, 42, is pictured arriving at Dallas-Fort Worth Airport
Holds a relative wearing traditional African dress while on the phone
Is notifying his family members that he will be at their Dallas home shortly
Was able to make the journey after allegedly lying on health forms in Liberia
He is in a critical condition in hospital and is being held in isolation
Texas authorities are still searching for people who may have been exposed
Scare cases sweeping the nation with 100 potential patients reported today
By Nick Fagge In Dallas, Texas For Mailonline and Wills Robinson for MailOnline
Published: 16:56 EST, 4 October 2014 | Updated: 14:04 EST, 5 October 2014
Standing in the arrivals lounge of Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport this is the moment Ebola victim Thomas Eric Duncan unwittingly brought the deadly virus to the USA.
Pictured moments after he completed his journey from disease-ravaged Liberia, two weeks ago, the 42-year-old smiles, as he is greeted warmly by relatives.
Holding a family member close he calls others on his cell phone to tell them he will shortly be arriving at their home in Dallas.
It follows a journey he was only able to make after he allegedly lied on an airport questionnaire in Liberia about not having any contact with a person infected with the deadly disease.
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Arrival: Ebola victim Thomas Eric Duncan, 42 greets a woman and phones his family after landing at Dallas-Forth Worth International Airport on September 20th
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Arrival: Ebola victim Thomas Eric Duncan, 42 greets a woman and phones his family after landing at Dallas-Forth Worth International Airport on September 20th
Dressed in a traditional African costume and with her hair-styled especially for the happy occasion the relative appears pleased to see him.
Looking healthy Mr Duncan shows no signs of the potentially fatal Ebola virus that struck him down just days after he arrived in the USA.
Today the 42-year-old is fighting for his life at the Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas after doctors confirmed his medical condition had dramatically altered from serious to critical.
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Texas Health Resources, which runs the hospital, said in a statement: 'Mr Duncan is in a critical condition.'
However the relative – who MailOnline have decided not to name – appears to have initially been in denial about the risk to her health after her extended family and friends contacted her following Mr Duncan's hospital admission last week.
A friend told MailOnline: 'She is the one who went to pick Thomas Eric Duncan up from the airport.
'They greeted each other, they hugged and held each other, which is only normal. They were pleased to see each other.
'But now everyone has been asking her about what has happened.
'And she has replied; "my Daddy does not have Ebola."
'She said; "Everyone should stop calling me because my dad does not have Ebola."
Document: A photo shows a copy of a passenger health screening form filled out by Thomas Eric Duncan and handed to the Liberian Airport Authority. Officials in the country say they plan to prosecute him
Document: A photo shows a copy of a passenger health screening form filled out by Thomas Eric Duncan and handed to the Liberian Airport Authority. Officials in the country say they plan to prosecute him
The relative was urged to undergo medical tests to see if she had become infected by the virus. But she appeared to be reluctant to do so.
The friend told MailOnline: 'She was meant to go for a medical check-up because she was one of the people who had been with him [Thomas Duncan], but she did not.'
It is unclear whether the relative – who is in a stable relationship and has three young children – has since been to see a doctor.
Mr Duncan arrived in Texas on September 20th after passing through two of the busiest airports in the USA - at Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport, and Dulles International Airport in Washington DC.
The Liberian national had earlier passed through Brussels International in Belgium on a flight from the African state's capital Monrovia.
Authorities have claimed he posed no danger to his fellow travelers or anyone who later boarded those planes because he was not displacing any symptoms of the Ebola virus at the time and was therefore not contagious.
Home: After leaving the airport, the 42-year-old went to this apartment in Dallas where he stayed with four members of his family. Hazmat teams decontaminated the area a week after he was diagnosed with Ebola
Home: After leaving the airport, the 42-year-old went to this apartment in Dallas where he stayed with four members of his family. Hazmat teams decontaminated the area a week after he was diagnosed with Ebola
Health officials issue order to Ebola patient family to stay...
However the 42-year-old helped to carry pregnant daughter of a neighbour who was dying of Ebola prior to the journey.
Mr Duncan had come to Dallas to marry the mother of his estranged son, Louise Troh, which would have paved the way for him to stay in the USA permanently, it has emerged.
Mark Wingfield, pastor at the Wilshire Baptist Church in Dallas, where Ms Troh worships, told MailOnline: 'Louise told our senior pastor on Thursday.
The 42-year-old, who is understood to have arrived in the USA on a tourist visa, met Ms Troh in Liberia many years ago, according to Wilshire Baptist church pastor George Mason.
He said: 'They had this child. They had a falling out, and she came to the [United] States.'
The child, Kasiah Duncan, also came to the USA and this week said he had not seen his father since he was aged three. He is a 19-year-old college student at Angelo State University in San Angelo.
Relocated: Two of Duncan's relatives who were quarantined inside the apartment are seen leaving and being moved to another, undisclosed location
Relocated: Two of Duncan's relatives who were quarantined inside the apartment are seen leaving and being moved to another, undisclosed location
Mr Mason added: 'The son hasn't really seen his father for many years.
'I think [Duncan] was seeking reconciliation and hoping they might marry.'
Ms Troh visited the Liberian capital Monrovia, where Mr Duncan was living, in August this year, according to her Facebook page.
Louise Troh's ex-husband Joe Joe Jallah, who met Mr Duncan before he was admitted to hospital, told the Wall Street Journal, that he believed this was his first trip to the USA.
Mr Duncan arrived in Texas on September 20. He began showing symptoms of Ebola three days after his arrival and was admitted to Texas Presbyterian Hospital on Sunday.
Texas health officials have said about 100 people may have come into contact with Mr Duncan.
And today they announced nine family members and health-care workers had had direct exposure to the Ebola patient and that none has had any symptoms of the disease.
Separately, five public school children who had possibly been exposed to the Ebola patient had been kept home from class in recent days while being monitored as a precaution, though none had shown any symptoms, said Mike Miles, superintendent of the Dallas Independent School District.
Fears: Officers hand out facemasks at Newark Liberty Airport today, where it was feared a passenger had Ebola. It later turned out he did not
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Fears: Officers hand out facemasks at Newark Liberty Airport today, where it was feared a passenger had Ebola. It later turned out he did not
Ebola scare cases are sweeping the nation, with more than 100 potential victims reported to authorities by hospitals in the last few days.
Health workers are on high alert for anybody with links to West Africa - where the disease has killed thousands - who show Ebola-like symptoms, which include vomiting, bleeding and diarrhea.
The Center for Disease Control (CDC) has been deluged by reports of potential sufferers - but so far none have turned out to be genuine Ebola victims.
Today Dr. Thomas Frieden, director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said the rush of potential cases came after news of Duncan's infection spread to hospitals, who have been especially vigilant.
The first Ebola diagnosis in the United States 'has really increased attention to what health workers need to do to be alert and make sure a travel history is taken,' Frieden told a news conference.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...deadly-virus-American-soil.html#ixzz3GeyALEVE
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helen
Panic Sex Lady
I believe this woman is an informally adopted daughter of Louise Troh. Her last name is Toe. She is mentioned in a recent interview with Youngor Jallah. Youngor Jallah has three children in school, so the other two children may belong to Toe.
Toe reportedly started shunning Jallah, and Jallah is pretty upset.
I don't know if Toe was ever monitored. If her children were part of the five who were told to stay out of school, then Toe may be under watch too.
Panic Sex Lady would rather cuddle at this point ...
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hope4mil
Veteran Member
Helen you may be right. I only found one other mention of Toe, whose first name is Esther.
Hope
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/19/family-first-us-ebola-victim-dispiritng-public-reaction
Before her fiance became the first person to die from Ebola in the US, Louise Troh was like a surrogate mother to Esther Toe, who had emigrated to Texas from their native Liberia with no family and little money.
“This is your sister,” Troh told Youngor Jallah, her real daughter, when Jallah arrived from west Africa to join them both among the Liberian expatriate community of north-east Dallas, in 2006.
While becoming a proud grandmother to Jallah’s four children, Troh helped Toe through her own pregnancies. As their families grew older and closer, living in the same apartment complex, Toe’s children would dash up the dusty steps to Jallah’s home after school, to ask for candy.
Then, earlier this month, Troh’s fiance, Thomas Eric Duncan, was diagnosed with the deadly virus. Everything changed. That day, Toe, 31, “was standing outside our apartment and telling her kids: ‘Do not go in that house any more, because that house is an Ebola house’,” said Jallah, 35, who lived about a mile away from her mother and Duncan.
“I was so discouraged,” she said with a sigh, sitting on a plastic chair outside her door on a run-down estate this weekend. The pair have not spoken since...
Hope
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/19/family-first-us-ebola-victim-dispiritng-public-reaction
Before her fiance became the first person to die from Ebola in the US, Louise Troh was like a surrogate mother to Esther Toe, who had emigrated to Texas from their native Liberia with no family and little money.
“This is your sister,” Troh told Youngor Jallah, her real daughter, when Jallah arrived from west Africa to join them both among the Liberian expatriate community of north-east Dallas, in 2006.
While becoming a proud grandmother to Jallah’s four children, Troh helped Toe through her own pregnancies. As their families grew older and closer, living in the same apartment complex, Toe’s children would dash up the dusty steps to Jallah’s home after school, to ask for candy.
Then, earlier this month, Troh’s fiance, Thomas Eric Duncan, was diagnosed with the deadly virus. Everything changed. That day, Toe, 31, “was standing outside our apartment and telling her kids: ‘Do not go in that house any more, because that house is an Ebola house’,” said Jallah, 35, who lived about a mile away from her mother and Duncan.
“I was so discouraged,” she said with a sigh, sitting on a plastic chair outside her door on a run-down estate this weekend. The pair have not spoken since...
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
(btw, I am NOT directing these comments at YOU, Hope4mil----just quoting you--thanks)
Okay, let me get this straight: the CDC later QUARANTINED THAT SAME HOUSE (apartment) and put the family under ARMED GUARD when they BROKE quarantine, due to the DANGER OF EXPOSING OTHERS TO THE EBOLA VIRUS IN THAT APT......BUT a MOTHER who on the VERY DAY that Duncan goes into the hospital and is confirmed to have Ebola, who warns her kids not to go in there, is WRONG and EVIL and JUDGMENTAL and "STIGMATIZING" toward her sister for the high crime and misdemeanor of TRYING TO PROTECT HER KIDS.
Okay, so this means----if I do ANYTHING TO PROTECT MYSELF from getting this disease---anything from putting on gloves or a mask to SIMPLY USING HAND SANITIZER---that is "SHUNNING" and to be DISCOURAGED because it HURTS THEIR FEELINGS and makes them FEEL BAD---it's STIGMATIZING them.
Sorry---but if some of you on here mean THIS kind of POLITICALLY CORRECT GARBAGE when you say we need to be kinder and "not stigmatize" them-----
(sputter gasp----utterly lost for words---or at least LADYLIKE ones....)
I WILL PROTECT MY KIDS TO MY LAST BREATH---AND I DON'T THINK MUCH OF ANY MOTHER THAT WOULD NOT.
and if you can't tell the DIFFERENCE between THAT and being "racist" or "judgmental" or "stigmatizing"----
(gropes again for words......)
Lord help............
Okay, let me get this straight: the CDC later QUARANTINED THAT SAME HOUSE (apartment) and put the family under ARMED GUARD when they BROKE quarantine, due to the DANGER OF EXPOSING OTHERS TO THE EBOLA VIRUS IN THAT APT......BUT a MOTHER who on the VERY DAY that Duncan goes into the hospital and is confirmed to have Ebola, who warns her kids not to go in there, is WRONG and EVIL and JUDGMENTAL and "STIGMATIZING" toward her sister for the high crime and misdemeanor of TRYING TO PROTECT HER KIDS.
Okay, so this means----if I do ANYTHING TO PROTECT MYSELF from getting this disease---anything from putting on gloves or a mask to SIMPLY USING HAND SANITIZER---that is "SHUNNING" and to be DISCOURAGED because it HURTS THEIR FEELINGS and makes them FEEL BAD---it's STIGMATIZING them.
Sorry---but if some of you on here mean THIS kind of POLITICALLY CORRECT GARBAGE when you say we need to be kinder and "not stigmatize" them-----
(sputter gasp----utterly lost for words---or at least LADYLIKE ones....)
I WILL PROTECT MY KIDS TO MY LAST BREATH---AND I DON'T THINK MUCH OF ANY MOTHER THAT WOULD NOT.
and if you can't tell the DIFFERENCE between THAT and being "racist" or "judgmental" or "stigmatizing"----
(gropes again for words......)
Lord help............
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Helen---
the Daily Mail has JUST IN THE LAST COUPLE OF HOURS blocked out her face---I saw this pic earlier this evening and almost copied it but didn't because I was looking for pics of Louise Troh and not of his sister, and it was NOT blocked out then.
Here are some others, which I found tonight:
In This Photo: Jesse Jackson, Josephus Weeks, Nowai Korkoyah, Mai Wureh
Rev. Jesse Jackson (L) prays with Nowai korkoyah (3nd L), the mother of Ebola patient Thomas Eric Duncan, as well as his nephew's, Josephus Weeks (2nd L), and Josephus Weeks jr. (2nd R) and sister, Mai Wureh, (R) before they spoke to the media at the South Dallas Cafe on October 7, 2014 in Dallas, Texas. Rev. Jesse Jackson was visiting Dallas to show support of Ebola patient Thomas Eric Duncan and his family.
In This Photo: Jesse Jackson, Mai Wureh
Rev. Jesse Jackson (L) hugs Mai Wureh, the sister of Ebola patient Thomas Eric Duncan, as she aarrives for a press conference at the South Dallas Cafe on October 7, 2014 in Dallas, Texas. Rev. Jesse Jackson was visiting Dallas to show support of Ebola patient Thomas Eric Duncan and his family.
Mr Duncan's sister, Mai Wureh, confirmed on Wednesday that her brother had been hospitalized with Ebola
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...t-named-Thomas-Eric-Duncan.html#ixzz3GfLnGJyA
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Heliobas Disciple
TB Fanatic
It looks like from this article that this pastor has spoken to her. I find it hard to believe a pastor would lie. If she were dead and he was told not to disclose it, he'd just not make comments to the media. However, that being said, he also says that she's moving out of the house on Monday which has since changed so I question WHEN he last spoke to her, not if he spoke to her.
Like everyone else, I would like to see her and those who were quarantined with her address the press, even if very briefly. I think it would be a huge PR coup for the CDC and I can't believe they aren't pushing for it. Once again showing how badly they've handled this situation since Duncan first reported to the ER.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/19/ebola-dallas-quarantine/17507669/
(fair use applies)
For a city weary of Ebola, a welcome 'D-Day'
Rick Hampson
8:38 p.m. EDT October 19, 2014
DALLAS – This Ebola-rattled metropolis observed a milestone in its battle with the disease Sunday, which marked the end of a 21-day observation period for some people who were in contact with Thomas Eric Duncan before his became the first case diagnosed in the United States.
"We can breathe a sigh of relief,'' said Mark Wingfield, associate pastor at the church attended by Duncan's girlfriend, Louise Troh. Unlike most of those exposed to Duncan, Troh, 54, was under a mandatory isolation order.
"We give thanks for the passing of the quarantine period,'' WIngfield told the congregation at Wilshire Baptist Church's worship service. But earlier, he said, "We won't celebrate, out of respect for the two patients.''
He referred to two nurses who became infected with Ebola while treating Duncan at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital. They're being treated at special hospital units in Atlanta and outside Washington.
It can take up to 21 days for Ebola symptoms – fever, sore throat and muscle pain, followed by severe vomiting, diarrhea and bleeding – to develop. The period that expired Sunday applied to about 50 people, including those Duncan lived with at an apartment complex on the northeast side of the city.
Scores of hospital workers and others in the area will still be monitored, either because they were exposed to Duncan after he was admitted to the hospital Sept. 28 – three days after he was first treated and released -- or because they were exposed to the two infected nurses. Duncan died Oct. 8.
The hospital workers have been told to stay around home and away from public places, or stay at Texas Health Presbyterian until their 21 days are up. They're monitored regularly for symptoms.
"This Sunday is a milestone,'' said Dr. Joseph McCormick, a University of Texas School of Public Health virologist who first studied Ebola in 1976 with the federal Centers for Disease Control and prevention. He said the expiration of the period "really supports the fact that this disease is not easily transmitted,'' especially since four of the quarantined -- Troh, her son, Duncan's nephew and another youth -- lived with him in the same apartment.
Clay Jenkins, Dallas County's top elected official, called it "a critical weekend.'' John Wiley Price, a county commissioner who has criticized Duncan's initial release from Presbyterian, called Sunday "D-Day.''
Relief was tempered with worry about possible new cases.
"We've taken so many turns with this,'' said Jennifer Staubach Gates, a city council member (and daughter of former Dallas Cowboys' star Roger Staubach) whose district includes the complex where Duncan was staying.
She alluded to the fact that the nurses became infected despite wearing protective clothing, and that one of them was cleared to fly between Cleveland and Dallas, putting her in possible contact with more than 100 travelers. They also are being monitored.
Many remain vigilant. The Roman Catholic diocese of Fort Worth urged worshipers not to hold hands during the Lord's Prayer. Priests were told to place the communion bread in worshipers' hands rather than on their tongues, and there was no sharing of communion wine -- restrictions also common during flu season.
The county-imposed quarantine of Duncan's girlfriend and her family expired at midnight. Wingfield said that on Monday the family would move out of the secret location where they've stayed all month to a new undisclosed location.
"Louise is trying to figure out how she's going to get her life back together,'' he said. "It's as if her house burned down and someone died in the fire. She wonders how people will receive her family. Will they welcome them? Will they be afraid of them?''
He said the family would not return to their old apartment. This came as news to Kevin Nuran, the landlord. He said Troh was welcome back -- but not the news media, which descended last month when word leaked out of Duncan's diagnosis.
As he described how some journalists sneaked into residents' homes, followed him in his vehicle to Home Depot and questioned children walking to school, Nuran reflected a growing attitude here: Hysteria over Ebola can be as bad as the disease itself.
Like everyone else, I would like to see her and those who were quarantined with her address the press, even if very briefly. I think it would be a huge PR coup for the CDC and I can't believe they aren't pushing for it. Once again showing how badly they've handled this situation since Duncan first reported to the ER.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/19/ebola-dallas-quarantine/17507669/
(fair use applies)
For a city weary of Ebola, a welcome 'D-Day'
Rick Hampson
8:38 p.m. EDT October 19, 2014
DALLAS – This Ebola-rattled metropolis observed a milestone in its battle with the disease Sunday, which marked the end of a 21-day observation period for some people who were in contact with Thomas Eric Duncan before his became the first case diagnosed in the United States.
"We can breathe a sigh of relief,'' said Mark Wingfield, associate pastor at the church attended by Duncan's girlfriend, Louise Troh. Unlike most of those exposed to Duncan, Troh, 54, was under a mandatory isolation order.
"We give thanks for the passing of the quarantine period,'' WIngfield told the congregation at Wilshire Baptist Church's worship service. But earlier, he said, "We won't celebrate, out of respect for the two patients.''
He referred to two nurses who became infected with Ebola while treating Duncan at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital. They're being treated at special hospital units in Atlanta and outside Washington.
It can take up to 21 days for Ebola symptoms – fever, sore throat and muscle pain, followed by severe vomiting, diarrhea and bleeding – to develop. The period that expired Sunday applied to about 50 people, including those Duncan lived with at an apartment complex on the northeast side of the city.
Scores of hospital workers and others in the area will still be monitored, either because they were exposed to Duncan after he was admitted to the hospital Sept. 28 – three days after he was first treated and released -- or because they were exposed to the two infected nurses. Duncan died Oct. 8.
The hospital workers have been told to stay around home and away from public places, or stay at Texas Health Presbyterian until their 21 days are up. They're monitored regularly for symptoms.
"This Sunday is a milestone,'' said Dr. Joseph McCormick, a University of Texas School of Public Health virologist who first studied Ebola in 1976 with the federal Centers for Disease Control and prevention. He said the expiration of the period "really supports the fact that this disease is not easily transmitted,'' especially since four of the quarantined -- Troh, her son, Duncan's nephew and another youth -- lived with him in the same apartment.
Clay Jenkins, Dallas County's top elected official, called it "a critical weekend.'' John Wiley Price, a county commissioner who has criticized Duncan's initial release from Presbyterian, called Sunday "D-Day.''
Relief was tempered with worry about possible new cases.
"We've taken so many turns with this,'' said Jennifer Staubach Gates, a city council member (and daughter of former Dallas Cowboys' star Roger Staubach) whose district includes the complex where Duncan was staying.
She alluded to the fact that the nurses became infected despite wearing protective clothing, and that one of them was cleared to fly between Cleveland and Dallas, putting her in possible contact with more than 100 travelers. They also are being monitored.
Many remain vigilant. The Roman Catholic diocese of Fort Worth urged worshipers not to hold hands during the Lord's Prayer. Priests were told to place the communion bread in worshipers' hands rather than on their tongues, and there was no sharing of communion wine -- restrictions also common during flu season.
The county-imposed quarantine of Duncan's girlfriend and her family expired at midnight. Wingfield said that on Monday the family would move out of the secret location where they've stayed all month to a new undisclosed location.
"Louise is trying to figure out how she's going to get her life back together,'' he said. "It's as if her house burned down and someone died in the fire. She wonders how people will receive her family. Will they welcome them? Will they be afraid of them?''
He said the family would not return to their old apartment. This came as news to Kevin Nuran, the landlord. He said Troh was welcome back -- but not the news media, which descended last month when word leaked out of Duncan's diagnosis.
As he described how some journalists sneaked into residents' homes, followed him in his vehicle to Home Depot and questioned children walking to school, Nuran reflected a growing attitude here: Hysteria over Ebola can be as bad as the disease itself.
bw
Fringe Ranger
When I was in a similar position, I WAS put in the public eye and I despised being put there. I have no doubt the family would like to be left alone. But I don't believe for a second that the government would respectfully accede to that desire and leave them be, not when there's political capital to be made and high-five points to be scored.
No matter what the family wants, they are being managed by handlers and they would be staged according to what the handlers want. The handlers can call in any number of psych-trained experts to manipulate the family and bring pressure to bear.
This is a government that routinely sacrifices young men in foreign lands for pointless wars. It is developing a recent record of lying, double-dealing and casual carnage that is mind-boggling. Can anyone here actually believe that this government would meekly back off, just because the family wanted to be left alone?
jazzy
Advocate Discernment
i sat thinking last night about this----
if i went thru what ms troh has experienced, loss of loved one to a terrible disease, whisked away and put in quarantine for 21 days because i had the closest contact with him and was exposed to the life threatening disease, lost my belongings, my job, my life turned upside down because no one knew if i carried the disease or had symptoms and could spread it to others---what would i do-------
and i realized i would WELCOME the chance to prove i was alive and well and healthy at the end of the quarantine.
id be in front of cameras, doing face time interviews to PROVE and SHOW i was not sick. at the end of the quarantine i would demand an actual ebola blood test and wave that negative test report as a flag proudly. heck, id print copies and mail them out to everyone i knew.
i would not shrink away or hide worried of people being afraid of me, id show them there is nothing to be afraid of.
if i went thru all that and came out uninfected, then would i not be the new poster child for the cdc? id show people it IS possible to come in contact and not get infected, that the fear of ebola is as horrible as the disease itself. i would make every effort to calm the public, friends and family.
would i like it or enjoy it? no. it would be hard to fight against the fears of others knowing with some i would not be successful. but i would DO IT because i owe it to the public to dispel the rampaging fears by showing myself.
if i had experienced what ms troh did, i would prove that living with an infected person, casual contact is not that infectious. i would say, here take some of my blood and try to find out why i did not get it. see if there are any antibodies, see if there is any immunity, see if my blood can help others. see if you can find out why i did not get it.
while i may want to slink off and be left alone or write a book or ponder a lawsuit, i would show to the world the cdc was right, ebola is hard to get and we should not live in fear..
i would do it because it was my duty to do so as a christian and as an american to dispel the growing fears in this country. after all the outpouring of assistance and prayers and care, i would stand up next to the cdc at a big fat press conference as proof ebola is as difficult to catch as they say. i would smile, give thanks to God and to all who have assisted me, pray for the nurses who caught it and thank america for taking care of my loved one that died.
and then, only after that, i would ask for privacy for a time to get my life back together.
if i went thru what ms troh has experienced, loss of loved one to a terrible disease, whisked away and put in quarantine for 21 days because i had the closest contact with him and was exposed to the life threatening disease, lost my belongings, my job, my life turned upside down because no one knew if i carried the disease or had symptoms and could spread it to others---what would i do-------
and i realized i would WELCOME the chance to prove i was alive and well and healthy at the end of the quarantine.
id be in front of cameras, doing face time interviews to PROVE and SHOW i was not sick. at the end of the quarantine i would demand an actual ebola blood test and wave that negative test report as a flag proudly. heck, id print copies and mail them out to everyone i knew.
i would not shrink away or hide worried of people being afraid of me, id show them there is nothing to be afraid of.
if i went thru all that and came out uninfected, then would i not be the new poster child for the cdc? id show people it IS possible to come in contact and not get infected, that the fear of ebola is as horrible as the disease itself. i would make every effort to calm the public, friends and family.
would i like it or enjoy it? no. it would be hard to fight against the fears of others knowing with some i would not be successful. but i would DO IT because i owe it to the public to dispel the rampaging fears by showing myself.
if i had experienced what ms troh did, i would prove that living with an infected person, casual contact is not that infectious. i would say, here take some of my blood and try to find out why i did not get it. see if there are any antibodies, see if there is any immunity, see if my blood can help others. see if you can find out why i did not get it.
while i may want to slink off and be left alone or write a book or ponder a lawsuit, i would show to the world the cdc was right, ebola is hard to get and we should not live in fear..
i would do it because it was my duty to do so as a christian and as an american to dispel the growing fears in this country. after all the outpouring of assistance and prayers and care, i would stand up next to the cdc at a big fat press conference as proof ebola is as difficult to catch as they say. i would smile, give thanks to God and to all who have assisted me, pray for the nurses who caught it and thank america for taking care of my loved one that died.
and then, only after that, i would ask for privacy for a time to get my life back together.
vessie
Has No Life - Lives on TB
No your not Helen found these hanging in the BS, I knew they had to be yours...
Lol! Bob, that looks like a pair of men's French Canadian swim trunks!
VThe thing with "they just want privacy"... how come they didn't want "privacy" after Duncan was first taken to the hospital? They were giving multiple interviews to anyone willing to talk to them, for DAYS, until the CDC stepped in and whisked them away!
I agree with Jazzy, I'd want to "prove" I was alive, and well, and hadn't ever had Ebola. Only then would I likely say "now that Thomas has been buried (I know, he's been cremated) and we are well, we'd like this episode in our lives to belong to the past, and we'd like some privacy to heal".
I want to know if they show up in church on Sunday. They clearly are devoted Christians and regular church-goers. If I had been spared from a deadly disease, the first Sunday I was allowed out, I would have been in church giving public thanks for my deliverance.
As far as the "shunning", etc... since it was very soon after Youngor Jallah, et al had actually had in-person exposure to a contagious Ebola patient, that was simple common sense. If they continue to be shunned (note, it's their own people- members of the Liberian community- who are doing this!!), then some education is needed. However, personally, I'd avoid all contact closer than 3 feet with any of them until another 21 days (the 42 days wherein 98% of Ebola cases break out after exposure), just out of common sense caution.
Summerthyme
I agree with Jazzy, I'd want to "prove" I was alive, and well, and hadn't ever had Ebola. Only then would I likely say "now that Thomas has been buried (I know, he's been cremated) and we are well, we'd like this episode in our lives to belong to the past, and we'd like some privacy to heal".
I want to know if they show up in church on Sunday. They clearly are devoted Christians and regular church-goers. If I had been spared from a deadly disease, the first Sunday I was allowed out, I would have been in church giving public thanks for my deliverance.
As far as the "shunning", etc... since it was very soon after Youngor Jallah, et al had actually had in-person exposure to a contagious Ebola patient, that was simple common sense. If they continue to be shunned (note, it's their own people- members of the Liberian community- who are doing this!!), then some education is needed. However, personally, I'd avoid all contact closer than 3 feet with any of them until another 21 days (the 42 days wherein 98% of Ebola cases break out after exposure), just out of common sense caution.
Summerthyme
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
I just posted the below to the Belize thread, but given all the heat in here last night that somehow some people were being uncompassionate if they wanted to be HONEST about the dangers of Ebola and pointing out the past lies and inconsistencies, or if they wanted PROOF (after all the said lies and inconsistencies) that THIS time at least the govt. was telling the truth, I decided to post it here also.
I see a DANGEROUS "Politically Correct" spin developing in this country, which will make it UNACCEPTABLE TO EXPRESS CONCERN ABOUT CATCHING EBOLA, TO DISAGREE WITH THE "OFFICIAL' POSITION ON EBOLA, OR TO TRY TO PRACTICE PERSONAL PROTECTION TO AVOID GETTING EBOLA.
the post:
I don't think they WILL change the PPE.
Here's why:
1. If they change the PPE on all HCWs working with Ebola patients, that sends the message that Ebola is FAR MORE CONTAGIOUS than previously reported.
2. If the people SEE that HCWs are wearing Level 4 PPE (as they SHOULD BE) they will start asking questions:
The ANSWERS to ALL these questions will indicate that--up to NOW---the GOVERNMENT, the CDC, and the "MEDICAL EXPERTS" have been LYING to them.
That will cause a MASSIVE loss of trust and questioning of GOVERNMENT---which we can't have, ESPECIALLY right before an ELECTION.
Furthermore, "IF" the people were AWARE of these truths, they would take steps to PROTECT THEMSELVES from Ebola (especially as they see their Government is NOT protecting them).
They might do POLITICALLY INCORRECT THINGS that would "STIGMATIZE" the sick (most of whom, up to now, have been African or black) by:
1. Avoiding persons they think may have been in a "hot" zone or in contact with "hot" (infected) people;
2. Wearing their own PPE, which hurts the feelings of those who have been sick and makes them feel "stigmatized"
3. Even putting on hand sanitizer around people they feel may be "hot" (infected), which again might hurt those people's feelings and make them feel stigmatized
----and with political correctness, we can't have that.
With the politically correct ideology, is it FAR better that we IGNORE the potential REAL level of transmissibility of Ebola altogether, and have it march unopposed through the general population, than to make a group of people (blacks, Lilberians, Africans, etc.) or even a single person (such as a recently quarantined person or a recovered Ebola patient) "feel" bad.
I see a DANGEROUS "Politically Correct" spin developing in this country, which will make it UNACCEPTABLE TO EXPRESS CONCERN ABOUT CATCHING EBOLA, TO DISAGREE WITH THE "OFFICIAL' POSITION ON EBOLA, OR TO TRY TO PRACTICE PERSONAL PROTECTION TO AVOID GETTING EBOLA.
the post:
I don't think they WILL change the PPE.
Here's why:
1. If they change the PPE on all HCWs working with Ebola patients, that sends the message that Ebola is FAR MORE CONTAGIOUS than previously reported.
2. If the people SEE that HCWs are wearing Level 4 PPE (as they SHOULD BE) they will start asking questions:
*Why is Level 4 PPE necessary?
*Why were we not TOLD it was this contagious BEFORE?
*If it IS this contagious, WHY are our borders still open?
*If it is THIS contagious, then "I" might catch it a LOT more easily!
*Why were we not TOLD it was this contagious BEFORE?
*If it IS this contagious, WHY are our borders still open?
*If it is THIS contagious, then "I" might catch it a LOT more easily!
The ANSWERS to ALL these questions will indicate that--up to NOW---the GOVERNMENT, the CDC, and the "MEDICAL EXPERTS" have been LYING to them.
That will cause a MASSIVE loss of trust and questioning of GOVERNMENT---which we can't have, ESPECIALLY right before an ELECTION.
Furthermore, "IF" the people were AWARE of these truths, they would take steps to PROTECT THEMSELVES from Ebola (especially as they see their Government is NOT protecting them).
They might do POLITICALLY INCORRECT THINGS that would "STIGMATIZE" the sick (most of whom, up to now, have been African or black) by:
1. Avoiding persons they think may have been in a "hot" zone or in contact with "hot" (infected) people;
2. Wearing their own PPE, which hurts the feelings of those who have been sick and makes them feel "stigmatized"
3. Even putting on hand sanitizer around people they feel may be "hot" (infected), which again might hurt those people's feelings and make them feel stigmatized
----and with political correctness, we can't have that.
With the politically correct ideology, is it FAR better that we IGNORE the potential REAL level of transmissibility of Ebola altogether, and have it march unopposed through the general population, than to make a group of people (blacks, Lilberians, Africans, etc.) or even a single person (such as a recently quarantined person or a recovered Ebola patient) "feel" bad.
nchomemaker
Veteran Member
hope4mil
Veteran Member
Countrymouse, no problem. I am totally with you on this one. I think that if Louise and crew are alive, then they are being used as test subjects by .gov, etc. She and her family are probably being paid big bucks to allow them to find out why they did not get ebola. So whether dead or alive, I am sure their blood, dna, etc is being used for medical research.
I also think we need to save all of these photos and videos, as they will probably be pulled soon. When I have more time, I will post some more.
Take care CM, and I am right behind you on this one.
Hope
bw
Fringe Ranger
Lol! Bob, that looks like a pair of men's French Canadian swim trunks!
Well, they don't have to belong to Helen in order to be something Helen left there.
xtreme_right
Veteran Member
http://educationblog.dallasnews.com...to-attend-dallas-isd-schools-on-tuesday.html/
Surprising Dallas ISD, four students affected by Ebola patient showed up at school Monday
By Tawnell D. Hobbs
thobbs@dallasnews.com
8:18 am on October 20, 2014
Four of the five children who were after having contact with Thomas Eric Duncan, who died from Ebloa, showed to Dallas ISD schools on Monday, surprising school administrators who expected them to return Tuesday.
DISD superintendent Mike Miles said Monday morning that the students would return Tuesday.
The five students, who have not been named, attend Conrad High School, Tasby Middle School, and Hotchkiss and Rogers elementary schools.
In addition, three students from Richardson ISD, who were being monitored because of their exposure to Duncan, will transfer into Jill Stone Elementary School in Dallas ISD, Miles said.
“We are happy to have our kids back in our schools,” Miles said during a news conference Monday. “Our students are now clear, which means they do not have the virus.”
DISD officials said Friday that discussions have been held with staff members at the schools to ensure everyone is aware that there is no way the students have Ebola. Teachers at the campuses provided students with a lesson on the virus.
Classrooms where the students will return received extra attention. A psychological services representative gave students in those classes a lesson about the virus, and they were talked to about being sensitive and conscientious.
“There is no reason to fear the return of these students,” Sherry Christian, DISD’s executive director of student services, said on Friday.
But it was not certain Friday if the students will return to their campuses or go to other schools.
“Right now, we are preparing as if they’re coming back to the school that they left,” Christian said. “We have not received anything to the contrary.”
Counselors were expected to reach out to the families this past weekend to let them know that everyone is excited about the return of the children, according to Christian. The plan included letting the families and students know to tell a counselor if the kids are feeling uncomfortable while at school.
“We’re just really excited for our kids, to get them back, to get them into a normal routine,” Christian said.
Surprising Dallas ISD, four students affected by Ebola patient showed up at school Monday
By Tawnell D. Hobbs
thobbs@dallasnews.com
8:18 am on October 20, 2014
Four of the five children who were after having contact with Thomas Eric Duncan, who died from Ebloa, showed to Dallas ISD schools on Monday, surprising school administrators who expected them to return Tuesday.
DISD superintendent Mike Miles said Monday morning that the students would return Tuesday.
The five students, who have not been named, attend Conrad High School, Tasby Middle School, and Hotchkiss and Rogers elementary schools.
In addition, three students from Richardson ISD, who were being monitored because of their exposure to Duncan, will transfer into Jill Stone Elementary School in Dallas ISD, Miles said.
“We are happy to have our kids back in our schools,” Miles said during a news conference Monday. “Our students are now clear, which means they do not have the virus.”
DISD officials said Friday that discussions have been held with staff members at the schools to ensure everyone is aware that there is no way the students have Ebola. Teachers at the campuses provided students with a lesson on the virus.
Classrooms where the students will return received extra attention. A psychological services representative gave students in those classes a lesson about the virus, and they were talked to about being sensitive and conscientious.
“There is no reason to fear the return of these students,” Sherry Christian, DISD’s executive director of student services, said on Friday.
But it was not certain Friday if the students will return to their campuses or go to other schools.
“Right now, we are preparing as if they’re coming back to the school that they left,” Christian said. “We have not received anything to the contrary.”
Counselors were expected to reach out to the families this past weekend to let them know that everyone is excited about the return of the children, according to Christian. The plan included letting the families and students know to tell a counselor if the kids are feeling uncomfortable while at school.
“We’re just really excited for our kids, to get them back, to get them into a normal routine,” Christian said.
Wow, such ownership of these kids! Who do they belong to?
PyratePrincess
Deceased
Still no live video..no voice recordings of the family...nada. A story in the local fox network said Ms. Troh's comments were relayed to the media by the city. EH??
I completely understand wanting to pick up the pieces and start fresh...but as several have commented-to be so conspicuously absent seems bizarre.
I completely understand wanting to pick up the pieces and start fresh...but as several have commented-to be so conspicuously absent seems bizarre.
xtreme_right
Veteran Member
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/19/family-first-us-ebola-victim-dispiritng-public-reaction
theguardian.com, Sunday 19 October 2014 15.37 EDT
Family of first US Ebola victim tell of dispiriting public reaction to their plight
Youngor Jallah, the daughter of Eric Duncan’s fiance, has faced hostility and fear during her family’s three weeks in quarantine
Youngor Jallah’s mother, Louise Troh, was the fiancee of Thomas Eric Duncan, the first person to die from Ebola in the US. Photograph: Youngor Jallah
Before her fiance became the first person to die from Ebola in the US, Louise Troh was like a surrogate mother to Esther Toe, who had emigrated to Texas from their native Liberia with no family and little money.
“This is your sister,” Troh told Youngor Jallah, her real daughter, when Jallah arrived from west Africa to join them both among the Liberian expatriate community of north-east Dallas, in 2006.
While becoming a proud grandmother to Jallah’s four children, Troh helped Toe through her own pregnancies. As their families grew older and closer, living in the same apartment complex, Toe’s children would dash up the dusty steps to Jallah’s home after school, to ask for candy.
Then, earlier this month, Troh’s fiance, Thomas Eric Duncan, was diagnosed with the deadly virus. Everything changed. That day, Toe, 31, “was standing outside our apartment and telling her kids: ‘Do not go in that house any more, because that house is an Ebola house’,” said Jallah, 35, who lived about a mile away from her mother and Duncan.
“I was so discouraged,” she said with a sigh, sitting on a plastic chair outside her door on a run-down estate this weekend. The pair have not spoken since.
The crushing reaction from a dear friend has left Jallah fearful for how her mother, and the three people who lived with her and Duncan, will be received by the public after they end 21 days of state-mandated quarantine at a house in an undisclosed Dallas location at midnight on Sunday. None has shown symptoms of infection.
“I don’t know where I am going to go,” Troh, who has lost a deposit on a new apartment to which she was planning to move before the crisis, told Jallah in a telephone conversation on Saturday. “I don’t know if I have a choice.”
But above all, she said of Duncan: “I miss him so much.”
Troh, her 13-year-old son and two young men who were staying with them have been confined to the grounds of a modest house donated for three weeks by a member of Wilshire Baptist church, which Troh attends. African-style meals have been delivered by congregants. George Mason, the church’s pastor, is raising funds to replace belongings that had to be destroyed.
A relative said Troh, 54, had been listening to music, reading books including the Bible, and watching a small television that was provided after a while by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), whose officials have been taking the temperatures of the four twice a day. Troh’s housemates are said to have been playing video games and throwing a football.
Anxiety about their future is shared by senior officials in this north Texas city, where the infection with Ebola of two nurses who treated Duncan at Texas Health Presbyterian hospital has set some people on edge. Mayor Mike Rawlings on Friday convened a conference call with dozens of religious leaders and asked them to urge their congregations to show compassion to Troh and her family.
Rex Howe, a pastor who was on the call, said Rawlings expressed concern that local reaction had shifted from caution to fear.
“He said that the encouragement should be not to ostracise certain members of the community,” said Howe. “We need to be informed and compassionate as we think through our response to this.”
Already, stories abound of people mistaken for relatives of Duncan having stones thrown at their homes, and of distant family members being verbally abused.
Rawlings also requested that Dr John Carlo, a former medical director for Dallas County who is now the chief executive of an HIV/Aids prevention non-profit, address the clerics after him to share his experiences.
“We deal with this stigma around infectious diseases every day,” said Carlo. “It’s critical that people be cognisant that we just tend to stigmatise people because of them.”
Jallah, her husband Aaron and their four children, who are aged between two and 11, are among 48 people to have been monitored for the 21 days until as late as Sunday night, because they came into contact with Duncan before he was hospitalised. Another 75 healthcare workers at the hospital, who had contact with Duncan up to his death on 8 October, remain under monitoring and have been asked to sign agreements stating that they will avoid public transport and crowds.
After bringing Duncan crackers and Gatorade as he became more and more sick, it was Jallah who called 911 for the ambulance that took him back to the hospital on 30 September. Four days earlier, he had been sent home with antibiotics after visiting the hospital’s emergency room.
Jallah’s family, too, have received visits each morning by CDC officials for temperature checks, and have been asked to call in with their own afternoon readings. After being confined to their apartment for almost two weeks, they were allowed to move around outside about a week ago, she said.
The response from people they have encountered since then has been dispiriting, said Jallah. Neighbours flee when they leave to take out their trash. One cable engineer sent out to install their internet service dumped his equipment and drove off after being warned they were infected with Ebola.
His replacement shunned the family and covered himself “from head to toe” with hand sanitiser as he left, said Jallah. “I told him its OK, everybody wants to be protected.” The managers of their apartment tried to avoid repairing their broken refrigerator by asking Jallah to store food in the refrigerator in a vacant apartment opposite, she said.
Her three eldest children – Joe Joe, 11, Rose, six, and King, four – were pulled out of schools on orders of the CDC and are due to return to classes on Monday. Jallah, who also has a two-year-old son, Prophet, is concerned about how the “Ebola kids” will be treated by their classmates on the bus.
“I’m worrying so much,” she said. “But I’m hopeful, because I don’t know what else to do.”
The family would make a fresh start somewhere else, she said, but “we don’t have the money to move. We work from paycheck to paycheck”. While being monitored for possible symptoms, she and Aaron have been unable to work and have gone unpaid.
Dallas County judge Clay Jenkins, who has taken a keen interest in the status of Troh and her family, described them as “gracious, dignified people, who are bearing a burden”. He said he had asked one of his officials to help find Troh new accommodation, and stressed that whatever the reaction of the community to their release to normal life, their freedom from Monday would be bittersweet.
“It’s going to be a great day for them, because it’s just been hanging over their heads like a knife, like a dangling knife for 21 days,” said Jenkins. “But let’s not forget that for Louise and those three young men, they lost someone that they love very much.”
theguardian.com, Sunday 19 October 2014 15.37 EDT
Family of first US Ebola victim tell of dispiriting public reaction to their plight
Youngor Jallah, the daughter of Eric Duncan’s fiance, has faced hostility and fear during her family’s three weeks in quarantine
Youngor Jallah’s mother, Louise Troh, was the fiancee of Thomas Eric Duncan, the first person to die from Ebola in the US. Photograph: Youngor Jallah
Before her fiance became the first person to die from Ebola in the US, Louise Troh was like a surrogate mother to Esther Toe, who had emigrated to Texas from their native Liberia with no family and little money.
“This is your sister,” Troh told Youngor Jallah, her real daughter, when Jallah arrived from west Africa to join them both among the Liberian expatriate community of north-east Dallas, in 2006.
While becoming a proud grandmother to Jallah’s four children, Troh helped Toe through her own pregnancies. As their families grew older and closer, living in the same apartment complex, Toe’s children would dash up the dusty steps to Jallah’s home after school, to ask for candy.
Then, earlier this month, Troh’s fiance, Thomas Eric Duncan, was diagnosed with the deadly virus. Everything changed. That day, Toe, 31, “was standing outside our apartment and telling her kids: ‘Do not go in that house any more, because that house is an Ebola house’,” said Jallah, 35, who lived about a mile away from her mother and Duncan.
“I was so discouraged,” she said with a sigh, sitting on a plastic chair outside her door on a run-down estate this weekend. The pair have not spoken since.
The crushing reaction from a dear friend has left Jallah fearful for how her mother, and the three people who lived with her and Duncan, will be received by the public after they end 21 days of state-mandated quarantine at a house in an undisclosed Dallas location at midnight on Sunday. None has shown symptoms of infection.
“I don’t know where I am going to go,” Troh, who has lost a deposit on a new apartment to which she was planning to move before the crisis, told Jallah in a telephone conversation on Saturday. “I don’t know if I have a choice.”
But above all, she said of Duncan: “I miss him so much.”
Troh, her 13-year-old son and two young men who were staying with them have been confined to the grounds of a modest house donated for three weeks by a member of Wilshire Baptist church, which Troh attends. African-style meals have been delivered by congregants. George Mason, the church’s pastor, is raising funds to replace belongings that had to be destroyed.
A relative said Troh, 54, had been listening to music, reading books including the Bible, and watching a small television that was provided after a while by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), whose officials have been taking the temperatures of the four twice a day. Troh’s housemates are said to have been playing video games and throwing a football.
Anxiety about their future is shared by senior officials in this north Texas city, where the infection with Ebola of two nurses who treated Duncan at Texas Health Presbyterian hospital has set some people on edge. Mayor Mike Rawlings on Friday convened a conference call with dozens of religious leaders and asked them to urge their congregations to show compassion to Troh and her family.
Rex Howe, a pastor who was on the call, said Rawlings expressed concern that local reaction had shifted from caution to fear.
“He said that the encouragement should be not to ostracise certain members of the community,” said Howe. “We need to be informed and compassionate as we think through our response to this.”
Already, stories abound of people mistaken for relatives of Duncan having stones thrown at their homes, and of distant family members being verbally abused.
Rawlings also requested that Dr John Carlo, a former medical director for Dallas County who is now the chief executive of an HIV/Aids prevention non-profit, address the clerics after him to share his experiences.
“We deal with this stigma around infectious diseases every day,” said Carlo. “It’s critical that people be cognisant that we just tend to stigmatise people because of them.”
Jallah, her husband Aaron and their four children, who are aged between two and 11, are among 48 people to have been monitored for the 21 days until as late as Sunday night, because they came into contact with Duncan before he was hospitalised. Another 75 healthcare workers at the hospital, who had contact with Duncan up to his death on 8 October, remain under monitoring and have been asked to sign agreements stating that they will avoid public transport and crowds.
After bringing Duncan crackers and Gatorade as he became more and more sick, it was Jallah who called 911 for the ambulance that took him back to the hospital on 30 September. Four days earlier, he had been sent home with antibiotics after visiting the hospital’s emergency room.
Jallah’s family, too, have received visits each morning by CDC officials for temperature checks, and have been asked to call in with their own afternoon readings. After being confined to their apartment for almost two weeks, they were allowed to move around outside about a week ago, she said.
The response from people they have encountered since then has been dispiriting, said Jallah. Neighbours flee when they leave to take out their trash. One cable engineer sent out to install their internet service dumped his equipment and drove off after being warned they were infected with Ebola.
His replacement shunned the family and covered himself “from head to toe” with hand sanitiser as he left, said Jallah. “I told him its OK, everybody wants to be protected.” The managers of their apartment tried to avoid repairing their broken refrigerator by asking Jallah to store food in the refrigerator in a vacant apartment opposite, she said.
Her three eldest children – Joe Joe, 11, Rose, six, and King, four – were pulled out of schools on orders of the CDC and are due to return to classes on Monday. Jallah, who also has a two-year-old son, Prophet, is concerned about how the “Ebola kids” will be treated by their classmates on the bus.
“I’m worrying so much,” she said. “But I’m hopeful, because I don’t know what else to do.”
The family would make a fresh start somewhere else, she said, but “we don’t have the money to move. We work from paycheck to paycheck”. While being monitored for possible symptoms, she and Aaron have been unable to work and have gone unpaid.
Dallas County judge Clay Jenkins, who has taken a keen interest in the status of Troh and her family, described them as “gracious, dignified people, who are bearing a burden”. He said he had asked one of his officials to help find Troh new accommodation, and stressed that whatever the reaction of the community to their release to normal life, their freedom from Monday would be bittersweet.
“It’s going to be a great day for them, because it’s just been hanging over their heads like a knife, like a dangling knife for 21 days,” said Jenkins. “But let’s not forget that for Louise and those three young men, they lost someone that they love very much.”
xtreme_right
Veteran Member
There's the one photograph in this article, but it's not of the family. Also no video.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/20/dallas-ebola-watchlist-virus-contact
Relief in Dallas as dozens declared Ebola-free after three weeks in isolation
•Forty-three of 48 people no longer at risk of developing virus
•‘It provides a measure of relief and reassurance’, officials say
Lauren Gambino in New York
theguardian.com, Monday 20 October 2014 12.30 EDT
Dallas officials at a news conference. ‘I’m happy we can tell people they are free and clear of monitoring,’ health commissioner David Lakey said. Photograph: Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images
The first wave of people who may have had contact with Thomas Eric Duncan have been declared Ebola-free after 21 days of twice-daily temperature checks, bringing welcome news to a Dallas hospital that was sent into a tailspin by the discovery of the virus.
At least 43 of the 48 people who may have come into contact with Duncan, the first person to be diagnosed with Ebola in the US, are no longer at risk of developing the virus, the Texas department of health announced in a statement Monday. Duncan died from Ebola on 8 October.
“Epidemiologists have worked around the clock to call and visit people who may have had any exposure, to make sure they were asymptotic and doing well,” Texas state health commissioner Dr David Lakey said in a statement.
“I’m happy we can tell people they are free and clear of monitoring. It provides a measure of relief and reassurance.”
At a press conference on Monday morning, Dallas mayor Mike Rawlings said the news marked a positive turn in the three-week drama that heightened public fear of an outbreak across the county – and the country.
“There is no question [that] today is a milestone day, a hurdle we needed to clear,” Rawlings said. “But there are more hurdles we need to jump.”
He warned that the state is weeks away from the “magic day” of 7 November, which is 21 days after the last possible contact that anyone in Texas could have had with a known infected person.
The incubation period for Ebola is between two and 21 days after exposure, although symptoms typically develop between days eight and 10.
Duncan’s fiancee, Louise Troh, was among the 43 people cleared for Ebola overnight Sunday, along with her 13-year-old son and two young men who stayed in the apartment where his condition worsened.
After Duncan was diagnosed, Troh and the three young men were quarantined in the apartment where the bedsheets he’d slept on remained. After several days, they were moved into a home donated for three weeks by a member of Wilshire Baptist church, and a clean-up crew was sent in to decontaminate the apartment.
“We are so happy this is coming to an end, and we are so grateful that none of us has shown any sign of illness,” Troh said in the statement.
“We have lost so much, but we have our lives and we have our faith in God, which always gives us hope. Even though the quarantine is over, our time of mourning is not over. Because of that, we ask to be given privacy as we seek to rebuild our home, our family and our daily living.”
Troh learned of her fiance’s death from her pastor, George Mason. Upon hearing the news, Troh collapsed in tears, Mason said. He was unable to embrace her because of the quarantine restrictions.
State officials, working with a team from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), initially identified 48 people who may have had contact with Duncan before he was admitted, including healthcare workers and community members. They were checked twice daily for fever and monitored for other symptoms of the deadly disease.
Those cleared from quarantine are people who could have had contact with Duncan up to 28 September, the day he was brought to the emergency room and isolated. The healthcare workers who treated Duncan after he was diagnosed are still being monitored, and have pledged not to go into public spaces until the end of their 21-day incubation periods. State health officials said about 120 people are being monitored.
Dallas County judge Clay Jenkins said the remaining five people of the initial 48 identified as having had contact with Duncan will be taken off monitoring in stages over the next few days, if they don’t show symptoms; one as early as Monday afternoon.
One was the last person potentially exposed to Duncan during the ambulance ride to the hospital and the other four are healthcare workers.
Several school-age children who were on the monitoring list have been cleared and are due to return to school on Tuesday, said the superintendent of the Dallas independent school district, Mike Miles.
Since Duncan’s death, two nurses who treated Duncan at Texas Health Presbyterian hospital in Dallas have been diagnosed. Both have since been moved to speciality care units – one in Maryland and one in Georgia.
One of the infected nurses, Amber Vinson, traveled back and forth to Ohio from Texas, possibly after she began to feel ill. She reported a low-grade fever on the day she flew back from Cleveland to Dallas.
The CDC director, Tom Frieden, said Vinson should not have been allowed to travel while she was being monitored. It was later revealed that Vinson had contacted the CDC before she traveled, and was allowed to fly.
“Suggestions that she ignored any of the physician and government-provided protocols recommended to her are patently untrue and hurtful,” Vinson’s relatives said in a statement. “She has not and would not knowingly expose herself or anyone else,” it added.
A group of passengers aboard one of Vinson’s two Frontier Airlines flights are being monitored for symptoms. Among those are a small group of passengers who sat within a three-foot radius of Vinson on one of the flights, who are deemed to be at a higher risk; they have been directed to stay home.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/20/dallas-ebola-watchlist-virus-contact
Relief in Dallas as dozens declared Ebola-free after three weeks in isolation
•Forty-three of 48 people no longer at risk of developing virus
•‘It provides a measure of relief and reassurance’, officials say
Lauren Gambino in New York
theguardian.com, Monday 20 October 2014 12.30 EDT
Dallas officials at a news conference. ‘I’m happy we can tell people they are free and clear of monitoring,’ health commissioner David Lakey said. Photograph: Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images
The first wave of people who may have had contact with Thomas Eric Duncan have been declared Ebola-free after 21 days of twice-daily temperature checks, bringing welcome news to a Dallas hospital that was sent into a tailspin by the discovery of the virus.
At least 43 of the 48 people who may have come into contact with Duncan, the first person to be diagnosed with Ebola in the US, are no longer at risk of developing the virus, the Texas department of health announced in a statement Monday. Duncan died from Ebola on 8 October.
“Epidemiologists have worked around the clock to call and visit people who may have had any exposure, to make sure they were asymptotic and doing well,” Texas state health commissioner Dr David Lakey said in a statement.
“I’m happy we can tell people they are free and clear of monitoring. It provides a measure of relief and reassurance.”
At a press conference on Monday morning, Dallas mayor Mike Rawlings said the news marked a positive turn in the three-week drama that heightened public fear of an outbreak across the county – and the country.
“There is no question [that] today is a milestone day, a hurdle we needed to clear,” Rawlings said. “But there are more hurdles we need to jump.”
He warned that the state is weeks away from the “magic day” of 7 November, which is 21 days after the last possible contact that anyone in Texas could have had with a known infected person.
The incubation period for Ebola is between two and 21 days after exposure, although symptoms typically develop between days eight and 10.
Duncan’s fiancee, Louise Troh, was among the 43 people cleared for Ebola overnight Sunday, along with her 13-year-old son and two young men who stayed in the apartment where his condition worsened.
After Duncan was diagnosed, Troh and the three young men were quarantined in the apartment where the bedsheets he’d slept on remained. After several days, they were moved into a home donated for three weeks by a member of Wilshire Baptist church, and a clean-up crew was sent in to decontaminate the apartment.
“We are so happy this is coming to an end, and we are so grateful that none of us has shown any sign of illness,” Troh said in the statement.
“We have lost so much, but we have our lives and we have our faith in God, which always gives us hope. Even though the quarantine is over, our time of mourning is not over. Because of that, we ask to be given privacy as we seek to rebuild our home, our family and our daily living.”
Troh learned of her fiance’s death from her pastor, George Mason. Upon hearing the news, Troh collapsed in tears, Mason said. He was unable to embrace her because of the quarantine restrictions.
State officials, working with a team from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), initially identified 48 people who may have had contact with Duncan before he was admitted, including healthcare workers and community members. They were checked twice daily for fever and monitored for other symptoms of the deadly disease.
Those cleared from quarantine are people who could have had contact with Duncan up to 28 September, the day he was brought to the emergency room and isolated. The healthcare workers who treated Duncan after he was diagnosed are still being monitored, and have pledged not to go into public spaces until the end of their 21-day incubation periods. State health officials said about 120 people are being monitored.
Dallas County judge Clay Jenkins said the remaining five people of the initial 48 identified as having had contact with Duncan will be taken off monitoring in stages over the next few days, if they don’t show symptoms; one as early as Monday afternoon.
One was the last person potentially exposed to Duncan during the ambulance ride to the hospital and the other four are healthcare workers.
Several school-age children who were on the monitoring list have been cleared and are due to return to school on Tuesday, said the superintendent of the Dallas independent school district, Mike Miles.
Since Duncan’s death, two nurses who treated Duncan at Texas Health Presbyterian hospital in Dallas have been diagnosed. Both have since been moved to speciality care units – one in Maryland and one in Georgia.
One of the infected nurses, Amber Vinson, traveled back and forth to Ohio from Texas, possibly after she began to feel ill. She reported a low-grade fever on the day she flew back from Cleveland to Dallas.
The CDC director, Tom Frieden, said Vinson should not have been allowed to travel while she was being monitored. It was later revealed that Vinson had contacted the CDC before she traveled, and was allowed to fly.
“Suggestions that she ignored any of the physician and government-provided protocols recommended to her are patently untrue and hurtful,” Vinson’s relatives said in a statement. “She has not and would not knowingly expose herself or anyone else,” it added.
A group of passengers aboard one of Vinson’s two Frontier Airlines flights are being monitored for symptoms. Among those are a small group of passengers who sat within a three-foot radius of Vinson on one of the flights, who are deemed to be at a higher risk; they have been directed to stay home.
John Green
Veteran Member
I am sure we will see them on The Today Show very soon. There is always money to be made off a tragedy.
Doomer Doug
TB Fanatic
The failure of the family to come forward and have a press conference is causing undue stress to people. The worthless, incompetent CDC head Dr. Frieden should pay the price and be FIRED for screwing with the psyche of the American people.
It is classic Public Relations technique to have a press conference to divert attention away from what is really important. The level of political BS from the CDC and the government has been truly astounding. The new Czar will be even worse.
The powers that be have made the decision to keep the sheeple in line until after the elections and after the holiday spending season is over. The Black Death lasted four years, from 1348 to 1352. We are one month into a potential Ebola epidemic in the USA that will last up to a decade. Ebola may go endemic in Africa and be around for the next 200 years.
Hold your horses; remember it is the American way to reduce everything to sound bites and declare "Dallas safe" in 21 days.
Until we seal our borders, restrict all incoming air travel from West Africa we are in danger. Duncan was round one of many to come.
It is classic Public Relations technique to have a press conference to divert attention away from what is really important. The level of political BS from the CDC and the government has been truly astounding. The new Czar will be even worse.
The powers that be have made the decision to keep the sheeple in line until after the elections and after the holiday spending season is over. The Black Death lasted four years, from 1348 to 1352. We are one month into a potential Ebola epidemic in the USA that will last up to a decade. Ebola may go endemic in Africa and be around for the next 200 years.
Hold your horses; remember it is the American way to reduce everything to sound bites and declare "Dallas safe" in 21 days.
Until we seal our borders, restrict all incoming air travel from West Africa we are in danger. Duncan was round one of many to come.
ainitfunny
Saved, to glorify God.
It is NOT "ALL OVER" with Ebola, not in any sense at all.
For those who believe "the Ebola scare is over" they should realize that ALL IT TAKES IS ANOTHER "DUNCAN" to start the whole thing all over AND OBAMA HAS GUARANTEED MANY MORE"Duncans" by speeding up the issuance of VISAS to citizens of Ebola affected nations!!!
For those who believe "the Ebola scare is over" they should realize that ALL IT TAKES IS ANOTHER "DUNCAN" to start the whole thing all over AND OBAMA HAS GUARANTEED MANY MORE"Duncans" by speeding up the issuance of VISAS to citizens of Ebola affected nations!!!
Outlaw-16
Contributing Member
Just so I have this straight. Duncan comes in from West Africa to TX. He goes to the hospital that then sends him home only to have him return and test positive for Ebola.
That much is assured.
Now we have this whole girlfriend, pretty convenient, that shows up negative. How is that even possible? Two HCW's a nurse and lab tech, are positive yet this 'girlfriend' who had to be intimate with Duncan, kiss, bodily fluid transfer, share the same bed maybe, is somehow negative?
From what I had heard, Duncan was supposed to have been a UPS contract agent in West Africa and had never physically met the people that he stayed with in TX. Was this some kind of arrangement like a prison pen pal?
That much is assured.
Now we have this whole girlfriend, pretty convenient, that shows up negative. How is that even possible? Two HCW's a nurse and lab tech, are positive yet this 'girlfriend' who had to be intimate with Duncan, kiss, bodily fluid transfer, share the same bed maybe, is somehow negative?
From what I had heard, Duncan was supposed to have been a UPS contract agent in West Africa and had never physically met the people that he stayed with in TX. Was this some kind of arrangement like a prison pen pal?
Outlaw- no, Duncan and Louise Troh had a child together around 19 years ago. She emigrated to the US, but they apparently stayed in contact, although I don't believe they had seen each other in person in many years.
Summerthyme
Summerthyme
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Yes, this article was quoted a page or two back, and it was her comments about seeing others' natural desire to protect themselves (such as putting on hand sanitizer) as somehow expressing "rejection", "judging", and "stigmatizing" them, that made me write the post below (which I've copied from a few posts above on this page):
I see a DANGEROUS "Politically Correct" spin developing in this country, which will make it UNACCEPTABLE TO EXPRESS CONCERN ABOUT CATCHING EBOLA, TO DISAGREE WITH THE "OFFICIAL' POSITION ON EBOLA, OR TO TRY TO PRACTICE PERSONAL PROTECTION TO AVOID GETTING EBOLA.
I don't think they WILL change the PPE (for the HCWs working with ebola patients):
Here's why:
1. If they change the PPE on all HCWs working with Ebola patients, that sends the message that Ebola is FAR MORE CONTAGIOUS than previously reported.
2. If the people SEE that HCWs are wearing Level 4 PPE (as they SHOULD BE) they will start asking questions:
The ANSWERS to ALL these questions will indicate that--up to NOW---the GOVERNMENT, the CDC, and the "MEDICAL EXPERTS" have been LYING to them.
That will cause a MASSIVE loss of trust and questioning of GOVERNMENT---which we can't have, ESPECIALLY right before an ELECTION.
Furthermore, "IF" the people were AWARE of these truths, they would take steps to PROTECT THEMSELVES from Ebola (especially as they see their Government is NOT protecting them).
They might do POLITICALLY INCORRECT THINGS that would "STIGMATIZE" the sick (most of whom, up to now, have been African or black) by:
1. Avoiding persons they think may have been in a "hot" zone or in contact with "hot" (infected) people;
2. Wearing their own PPE, which hurts the feelings of those who have been sick and makes them feel "stigmatized"
3. Even putting on hand sanitizer around people they feel may be "hot" (infected), which again might hurt those people's feelings and make them feel stigmatized
----and with political correctness, we can't have that.
With the politically correct ideology, is it FAR better that we IGNORE the potential REAL level of transmissibility of Ebola altogether, and have it march unopposed through the general population, than to make a group of people (blacks, Lilberians, Africans, etc.) or even a single person (such as a recently quarantined person or a recovered Ebola patient) "feel" bad.
I see a DANGEROUS "Politically Correct" spin developing in this country, which will make it UNACCEPTABLE TO EXPRESS CONCERN ABOUT CATCHING EBOLA, TO DISAGREE WITH THE "OFFICIAL' POSITION ON EBOLA, OR TO TRY TO PRACTICE PERSONAL PROTECTION TO AVOID GETTING EBOLA.
I don't think they WILL change the PPE (for the HCWs working with ebola patients):
Here's why:
1. If they change the PPE on all HCWs working with Ebola patients, that sends the message that Ebola is FAR MORE CONTAGIOUS than previously reported.
2. If the people SEE that HCWs are wearing Level 4 PPE (as they SHOULD BE) they will start asking questions:
*Why is Level 4 PPE necessary?
*Why were we not TOLD it was this contagious BEFORE?
*If it IS this contagious, WHY are our borders still open?
*If it is THIS contagious, then "I" might catch it a LOT more easily!
*Why were we not TOLD it was this contagious BEFORE?
*If it IS this contagious, WHY are our borders still open?
*If it is THIS contagious, then "I" might catch it a LOT more easily!
The ANSWERS to ALL these questions will indicate that--up to NOW---the GOVERNMENT, the CDC, and the "MEDICAL EXPERTS" have been LYING to them.
That will cause a MASSIVE loss of trust and questioning of GOVERNMENT---which we can't have, ESPECIALLY right before an ELECTION.
Furthermore, "IF" the people were AWARE of these truths, they would take steps to PROTECT THEMSELVES from Ebola (especially as they see their Government is NOT protecting them).
They might do POLITICALLY INCORRECT THINGS that would "STIGMATIZE" the sick (most of whom, up to now, have been African or black) by:
1. Avoiding persons they think may have been in a "hot" zone or in contact with "hot" (infected) people;
2. Wearing their own PPE, which hurts the feelings of those who have been sick and makes them feel "stigmatized"
3. Even putting on hand sanitizer around people they feel may be "hot" (infected), which again might hurt those people's feelings and make them feel stigmatized
----and with political correctness, we can't have that.
With the politically correct ideology, is it FAR better that we IGNORE the potential REAL level of transmissibility of Ebola altogether, and have it march unopposed through the general population, than to make a group of people (blacks, Lilberians, Africans, etc.) or even a single person (such as a recently quarantined person or a recovered Ebola patient) "feel" bad.
hammerhead
Veteran Member
My thoughts are tracking in the same direction. "Too much information may lead to panic." It's not a stretch to hear people arguing a direct connection between panic and terroristic activity (or support of terroristic activity), and then the full array of Patriot Act sanctions come into play. A visible consequence of such sanctions being applied would include people shutting up abruptly.
I'm not saying that's what's happening, but speculating that current newsflow patterns -- or lack thereof -- is not inconsistent with what we're seeing and discussing. IF that's what's happening, well . . .
Has anyone seen confirmation that Louise Troh and her tribe are naturalized citizens - Louise in an early interview CLAIMED to be a naturalized citizen. But has there been any confirmation of this claim?
Using the 'watch what they do, not what they say', I have doubts about her legal status because of the way she initially acted (sort of hiding and acting like an illegal would act) until the mayor and judge visited her apartment.
Something isn't quite right. Has anyone else been bothered by this?
Using the 'watch what they do, not what they say', I have doubts about her legal status because of the way she initially acted (sort of hiding and acting like an illegal would act) until the mayor and judge visited her apartment.
Something isn't quite right. Has anyone else been bothered by this?
MrsClaus
Keeper of all things
That was the first thing I thought when I saw this picture.
It was, indeed, a big day in Dallas. Nothing happened.
The ginormous psy-op that is The Big E is just about done. It infected a whole lot of people; made them anxious, nauseated, faint, unsettled, worried, concerned. A few began to withdraw themselves from each other and 'bugged out'.
But they'll get over the disease, and soon.
The next time an even bigger, more grandiose psy-op is presented, some will have developed immunity. And will remain well. So maybe The Big E has been good, after all. Our immune systems will be strengthened and for that, we can be thankful.
The ginormous psy-op that is The Big E is just about done. It infected a whole lot of people; made them anxious, nauseated, faint, unsettled, worried, concerned. A few began to withdraw themselves from each other and 'bugged out'.
But they'll get over the disease, and soon.
The next time an even bigger, more grandiose psy-op is presented, some will have developed immunity. And will remain well. So maybe The Big E has been good, after all. Our immune systems will be strengthened and for that, we can be thankful.