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Countrymouse
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I'm sorry, and ya'll can think me hard-hearted or that my tin-foil is on too tight if you want to, and I'll have no hard feelings. (
)But I will believe Louise Troh and her children are alive and well when I SEE AND HEAR THEM IN A LIVE NEWS CONFERENCE.
Did you not notice the latest contradiction?
Just this morning Judge Jenkins said that Louise would NOT be released from quarantine for "a few more days"?
And NOW suddenly she IS being released today after all?
And the CDC--who would LOVE to parade her out as PROOF POSITIVE that ebola is NOT EASILY CAUGHT JUST BY BEING NEAR SOMEONE WHO HAS EBOLA---has NOT provided a fanfare-filled press conference with her to trumpet that fact.
Sorry, I'm going to be a doubting Thomas on this one.
Countrymouse
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Ebola has been the best thing to happen to her. Moved for free from an apartment, to a gated community and into a house. FREE
Now they will be moving again, to another house ... FREE
And just who wrote the statement, does that really sound like her or one of her family members? see pics above
A statement from Louise Troh ahead of the lifting of her Ebola quarantine says family wishes 'to be given privacy as we seek to rebuild our home'
Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins says Ebola victim's fiancee Louise Troh is likely to spend a few more days in gated community when quarantine ends Monday, then move to new rental home in the Dallas area that's being paid for by anonymous donors - @NBCNews
http://www.breakingnews.com/item/2014/10/19/image-a-statement-from-louise-troh-ahead-of-the-l/
I think it's time to hunt up some of her ORIGINAL videos and statements from the FIRST threads that talked about Duncan, and post them here for comparison.
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I'm not buying that the above text came from the woman pictured in a prior post. Just not buying it.
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So if she's going to go to church, can someone hang around outside next Sunday and look for her and take a photo of her and post it?
Reminds me of the old switcheroo........the crumbumb who whacks a little old lady for her purse turns up in court with suit & tie& fresh haircut........oh yeah......he's just a good boy give him a break............
I don't expect the truth but I pray God will cause it to come out nevertheless....................
I don't expect the truth but I pray God will cause it to come out nevertheless....................
Betty_Rose
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Maybe they were waiting to get married before they had sex?
Countrymouse
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I am in process of searching thru the entire ORIGINAL Duncan thread (now in the Ebola Archives sig) and will post as soon as I find some of her quoted talk or a video. I KNOW I saw some there.
In the meantime, whatever became of THIS???----
http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/show...10-8-2014-FIRST-IN-USA!&p=5367391#post5367391
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Officials: Second person being monitored for Ebola
DALLAS — Health officials are closely monitoring a possible second Ebola patient who had close contact with the first person to be diagnosed in the U.S., the director of Dallas County's health department said Wednesday.
All who have been in close contact with the man officially diagnosed are being monitored as a precaution, Zachary Thompson, director of Dallas County Health and Human Services, said in a morning interview with WFAA-TV, Dallas-Fort Worth.
"Let me be real frank to the Dallas County residents: The fact that we have one confirmed case, there may be another case that is a close associate with this particular patient," he said. "So this is real. There should be a concern, but it's contained to the specific family members and close friends at this moment."
The director continued to assure residents that the public isn't at risk because health officials have the virus contained.
On Tuesday, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention confirmed a patient at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas was the first person to be diagnosed in the United States with the Ebola virus.
Thomas Eric Duncan had left Liberia on Sept. 19 and arrived in Dallas the following day.
Zachary Taylor
Zachary Taylor, director of Dallas County's health department, discusses precautions being taken after a patient in the Texas city was diagnosed Sept. 30, 2014, with Ebola.(Photo: WFAA-TV, Dallas-Fort Worth)
On Sept. 26, he sought treatment at the hospital after becoming ill but was sent back to the northeast Dallas apartment complex where he was staying with a prescription for antibiotics. Duncan's sister, Mai Wureh, said he notified health-care workers that he was visiting from Liberia when they asked for his Social Security number and he told them he didn't have one.
Two days later, he was admitted to the hospital with more critical symptoms, after requiring an ambulance ride.
Duncan, whose condition was upgraded to serious from critical Wednesday, was in contact with at least five children from four schools before he was hospitalized, said Superintendent Mike Miles of Dallas Independent Schools. Each of those children have been kept home from school and are under precautionary monitoring.
"They are consulting with the county on any additional action that may need to be taken during the course of investigation," district spokesman Jon Dahlander said in a statement. "This is part of routine emergency operations during a health incident in the county. This is same protocol taken during things like flu and tuberculosis cases."
More than a half a dozen CDC employees arrived in Dallas after news of the diagnosis broke. The CDC and Dallas County are working together in what they call a contact investigation.
Anyone who had contact with the patient, including emergency room staff, will be under health officials' observation for 21 days. If any of those being monitored show symptoms, they'll be placed in isolation.
The three paramedics who transported the patient in Dallas are temporarily off duty and among those under observation. They have tested negative for the virus and are being restricted to their homes.
#BREAKING@texashealth says #DallasEbola patient is now in "serious condition."
— Jenny Doren (@JennyDoren) October 1, 2014
Stanley Gaye, president of the Liberian Community Association of Dallas-Fort Worth, said the 10,000-strong Liberian population in North Texas is skeptical of the CDC's assurances because Ebola has ravaged their country.
"We've been telling people to try to stay away from social gatherings," Gaye said at a community meeting Tuesday. Large get-togethers are a prominent part of Liberian culture.
ALSO: Paramedics, ER staff under Ebola observation in Dallas
MONDAY: Dallas hospital isolates possible Ebola patient
Ebola symptoms can include fever, muscle pain, vomiting and bleeding and can appear as long as 21 days after exposure to the virus. The disease is not contagious until symptoms begin, and it takes close contact with bodily fluids to spread.
"We don't want to get a panic going," said Roseline Sayon, the association's vice president. "We embrace those people who are coming forward. Don't let the stigma keep you from getting tested."
Texas Health Director David Lakey, accompanied by Gov. Rick Perry, said the state has been preparing for the possibility of the virus landing here since August.
"This is a very sophisticated city, a very sophisticated hospital, ... and the chances of it being spread are very, very scarce," Lakey said.
Contributing: Jenny Doren and Rebecca Lopez, WFAA-TV, Dallas-Fort Worth; The Associated Press
Timeline
The current outbreak of Ebola in West Africa is the largest since the virus was first discovered in 1976. Until Sept. 30, no cases of this disease, which has a 50% fatality rate, had been diagnosed in humans in the United States.
• Sept. 19. Thomas Eric Duncan leaves Monrovia, Liberia, for a trip to the United States. He has been exposed to Ebola but is not exhibiting symptoms, so he is not contagious. It is unclear whether he knew he had been exposed.
• Sept. 20. After changing planes in Brussels, Belgium, and at Washington Dulles International Airport, Duncan arrives in Dallas to visit his sister.
• Sept. 24. Duncan's family members tell U.S. authorities this is the day he first felt sick. That is when he likely became contagious.
• Sept. 26. Duncan seeks treatment at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas and is sent back to his sister's apartment with antibiotics.
• Sept. 28. Duncan is transported to the same hospital by ambulance. He is critically ill and put in isolation in the hospital's intensive care unit.
• Sept. 30. The federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention confirms that Duncan has been stricken with the Ebola virus, the first patient to be diagnosed in the USA.
• Oct. 1. Duncan's condition is upgraded from critical to serious, and health officials say they are closely monitoring a second patient who had contact with Duncan. Others who have been in contact with Duncan, including paramedics and children, are being observed for symptoms.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...ient/16525649/
In the meantime, whatever became of THIS???----
http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/show...10-8-2014-FIRST-IN-USA!&p=5367391#post5367391
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Officials: Second person being monitored for Ebola
DALLAS — Health officials are closely monitoring a possible second Ebola patient who had close contact with the first person to be diagnosed in the U.S., the director of Dallas County's health department said Wednesday.
All who have been in close contact with the man officially diagnosed are being monitored as a precaution, Zachary Thompson, director of Dallas County Health and Human Services, said in a morning interview with WFAA-TV, Dallas-Fort Worth.
"Let me be real frank to the Dallas County residents: The fact that we have one confirmed case, there may be another case that is a close associate with this particular patient," he said. "So this is real. There should be a concern, but it's contained to the specific family members and close friends at this moment."
The director continued to assure residents that the public isn't at risk because health officials have the virus contained.
On Tuesday, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention confirmed a patient at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas was the first person to be diagnosed in the United States with the Ebola virus.
Thomas Eric Duncan had left Liberia on Sept. 19 and arrived in Dallas the following day.
Zachary Taylor
Zachary Taylor, director of Dallas County's health department, discusses precautions being taken after a patient in the Texas city was diagnosed Sept. 30, 2014, with Ebola.(Photo: WFAA-TV, Dallas-Fort Worth)
On Sept. 26, he sought treatment at the hospital after becoming ill but was sent back to the northeast Dallas apartment complex where he was staying with a prescription for antibiotics. Duncan's sister, Mai Wureh, said he notified health-care workers that he was visiting from Liberia when they asked for his Social Security number and he told them he didn't have one.
Two days later, he was admitted to the hospital with more critical symptoms, after requiring an ambulance ride.
Duncan, whose condition was upgraded to serious from critical Wednesday, was in contact with at least five children from four schools before he was hospitalized, said Superintendent Mike Miles of Dallas Independent Schools. Each of those children have been kept home from school and are under precautionary monitoring.
"They are consulting with the county on any additional action that may need to be taken during the course of investigation," district spokesman Jon Dahlander said in a statement. "This is part of routine emergency operations during a health incident in the county. This is same protocol taken during things like flu and tuberculosis cases."
More than a half a dozen CDC employees arrived in Dallas after news of the diagnosis broke. The CDC and Dallas County are working together in what they call a contact investigation.
Anyone who had contact with the patient, including emergency room staff, will be under health officials' observation for 21 days. If any of those being monitored show symptoms, they'll be placed in isolation.
The three paramedics who transported the patient in Dallas are temporarily off duty and among those under observation. They have tested negative for the virus and are being restricted to their homes.
#BREAKING@texashealth says #DallasEbola patient is now in "serious condition."
— Jenny Doren (@JennyDoren) October 1, 2014
Stanley Gaye, president of the Liberian Community Association of Dallas-Fort Worth, said the 10,000-strong Liberian population in North Texas is skeptical of the CDC's assurances because Ebola has ravaged their country.
"We've been telling people to try to stay away from social gatherings," Gaye said at a community meeting Tuesday. Large get-togethers are a prominent part of Liberian culture.
ALSO: Paramedics, ER staff under Ebola observation in Dallas
MONDAY: Dallas hospital isolates possible Ebola patient
Ebola symptoms can include fever, muscle pain, vomiting and bleeding and can appear as long as 21 days after exposure to the virus. The disease is not contagious until symptoms begin, and it takes close contact with bodily fluids to spread.
"We don't want to get a panic going," said Roseline Sayon, the association's vice president. "We embrace those people who are coming forward. Don't let the stigma keep you from getting tested."
Texas Health Director David Lakey, accompanied by Gov. Rick Perry, said the state has been preparing for the possibility of the virus landing here since August.
"This is a very sophisticated city, a very sophisticated hospital, ... and the chances of it being spread are very, very scarce," Lakey said.
Contributing: Jenny Doren and Rebecca Lopez, WFAA-TV, Dallas-Fort Worth; The Associated Press
Timeline
The current outbreak of Ebola in West Africa is the largest since the virus was first discovered in 1976. Until Sept. 30, no cases of this disease, which has a 50% fatality rate, had been diagnosed in humans in the United States.
• Sept. 19. Thomas Eric Duncan leaves Monrovia, Liberia, for a trip to the United States. He has been exposed to Ebola but is not exhibiting symptoms, so he is not contagious. It is unclear whether he knew he had been exposed.
• Sept. 20. After changing planes in Brussels, Belgium, and at Washington Dulles International Airport, Duncan arrives in Dallas to visit his sister.
• Sept. 24. Duncan's family members tell U.S. authorities this is the day he first felt sick. That is when he likely became contagious.
• Sept. 26. Duncan seeks treatment at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas and is sent back to his sister's apartment with antibiotics.
• Sept. 28. Duncan is transported to the same hospital by ambulance. He is critically ill and put in isolation in the hospital's intensive care unit.
• Sept. 30. The federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention confirms that Duncan has been stricken with the Ebola virus, the first patient to be diagnosed in the USA.
• Oct. 1. Duncan's condition is upgraded from critical to serious, and health officials say they are closely monitoring a second patient who had contact with Duncan. Others who have been in contact with Duncan, including paramedics and children, are being observed for symptoms.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...ient/16525649/
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The have a 19 year old son. And IIRC it was said they slept in the same bed; even if they did not have sex they certainly had close enough contact to get infected, if it was in the stars.
Sasquatch
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The writing above is not from the person talking in the phone interview. JMHO
Louise Troh talks to News 8 about her ordeal since fiance Thomas Eric Duncan was diagnosed with Ebola
Tanya Eiserer, WFAA 9:07 p.m. CDT October 7, 2014
DALLAS — It wasn't supposed to be like this for Louise Troh and the man she loves.
Thomas Eric Duncan arrived in Dallas last month after making the long, international flight from Ebola-ravaged Liberia. They planned to marry.
"He was just so happy," Troh told News 8 in a phone interview on Tuesday. "He said, 'I can't even believe this,' and he kept saying it forever."
But that joy was short-lived.
Within days, Duncan was stricken by the Ebola virus, and Troh's family become the center of a public health crisis.
Duncan currently remains in critical condition at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas. He is on a ventilator and dialysis. He began taking an experimental medication over the weekend, and his condition has stabilized, the hospital said.
"I'm just praying to God that he gets better," Troh said. "He's a generous guy, and I'm just so sad. He just come to America and just get so sick, and just went down just in a second. I feel so sad. I'm confused, and really disturbed. I don't know. I'm just praying to God so he can wake up and for him to be able to see his children and be able to come back to his family."
Neither Troh nor her children have shown symptoms of the illness. Health officials have repeatedly said that the virus is not contagious unless someone is showing symptoms.
According to news accounts, Troh and Duncan met years ago at a refugee camp on the Ivory Coast. She came to this country about a decade ago with their small son. He remained behind in their impoverished homeland.
More recently, the couple had reconnected and he had decided to come to the United States. Duncan arrived on September 20.
But just days before he left Liberia, Duncan had contact with a woman who was stricken by Ebola, according to The New York Times. He reportedly helped carry the woman to and from a taxi taking her to a hospital in Monrovia, the county's capital.
The Associated Press has reported that it was believed at the time that the woman's symptoms were related to her pregnancy.
On September 24, Duncan fell ill in Troh's Dallas apartment. He went to Presbyterian Hospital that next evening. They gave him antibiotics and sent him home.
Three days later, Duncan was very sick. Troh's daughter called 911.
"She saved his life," Troh said. "If she had not been there to go and see his condition, maybe I might have come and see him dead in the house."
Troh said her daughter likely saved their lives by telling them not to go back into the bedroom where Duncan had been staying.
It was soon announced that tests had confirmed Duncan as the first Ebola patient diagnosed in the United States.
Troh's apartment became the center of 24-hour media coverage and around-the-clock police surveillance. She and her children were confined inside the contaminated apartment for days after authorities told them they could not leave.
"It's a horrible thing to see yourself come just come into something like this, and then people looking at you outside, and to be so ugly... so nasty and angry at you... and I didn't do anything wrong," Troh said.
She described it as a terrible, scary thing to be trapped inside that apartment.
"I don't' even want to think about it too much," Troh said.
http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/heal...roh-thomas-eric-duncan-dallas-ebola/16886061/
Louise Troh talks to News 8 about her ordeal since fiance Thomas Eric Duncan was diagnosed with Ebola
Tanya Eiserer, WFAA 9:07 p.m. CDT October 7, 2014
DALLAS — It wasn't supposed to be like this for Louise Troh and the man she loves.
Thomas Eric Duncan arrived in Dallas last month after making the long, international flight from Ebola-ravaged Liberia. They planned to marry.
"He was just so happy," Troh told News 8 in a phone interview on Tuesday. "He said, 'I can't even believe this,' and he kept saying it forever."
But that joy was short-lived.
Within days, Duncan was stricken by the Ebola virus, and Troh's family become the center of a public health crisis.
Duncan currently remains in critical condition at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas. He is on a ventilator and dialysis. He began taking an experimental medication over the weekend, and his condition has stabilized, the hospital said.
"I'm just praying to God that he gets better," Troh said. "He's a generous guy, and I'm just so sad. He just come to America and just get so sick, and just went down just in a second. I feel so sad. I'm confused, and really disturbed. I don't know. I'm just praying to God so he can wake up and for him to be able to see his children and be able to come back to his family."
Neither Troh nor her children have shown symptoms of the illness. Health officials have repeatedly said that the virus is not contagious unless someone is showing symptoms.
According to news accounts, Troh and Duncan met years ago at a refugee camp on the Ivory Coast. She came to this country about a decade ago with their small son. He remained behind in their impoverished homeland.
More recently, the couple had reconnected and he had decided to come to the United States. Duncan arrived on September 20.
But just days before he left Liberia, Duncan had contact with a woman who was stricken by Ebola, according to The New York Times. He reportedly helped carry the woman to and from a taxi taking her to a hospital in Monrovia, the county's capital.
The Associated Press has reported that it was believed at the time that the woman's symptoms were related to her pregnancy.
On September 24, Duncan fell ill in Troh's Dallas apartment. He went to Presbyterian Hospital that next evening. They gave him antibiotics and sent him home.
Three days later, Duncan was very sick. Troh's daughter called 911.
"She saved his life," Troh said. "If she had not been there to go and see his condition, maybe I might have come and see him dead in the house."
Troh said her daughter likely saved their lives by telling them not to go back into the bedroom where Duncan had been staying.
It was soon announced that tests had confirmed Duncan as the first Ebola patient diagnosed in the United States.
Troh's apartment became the center of 24-hour media coverage and around-the-clock police surveillance. She and her children were confined inside the contaminated apartment for days after authorities told them they could not leave.
"It's a horrible thing to see yourself come just come into something like this, and then people looking at you outside, and to be so ugly... so nasty and angry at you... and I didn't do anything wrong," Troh said.
She described it as a terrible, scary thing to be trapped inside that apartment.
"I don't' even want to think about it too much," Troh said.
http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/heal...roh-thomas-eric-duncan-dallas-ebola/16886061/
Hmmmm yes I thought about that one too but somehow I doubt it. Ok so let's say they did not have sex... what about a passionate kiss right?!? Plenty of saliva transfer with that one....
Countrymouse
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STILL searching Ebola archives:
Haven't yet found pic or video of Louise Troh, but I HAVE found THIS little gold mine:
Louise Troh's DAUGHTER (Duncan's STEP-DAUGHTER) SPOKE TO CNN on Friday Oct. 3.
There is a VIDEO of that interview at this link:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...-restore-confidence-in-cdcs-handling-of-case/
You can ALSO see & hear the interview HERE:
http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2014/10/...ts-stepdaughter-no-one-is-telling-me-nothing/
(I'm going to look & see if anyone posted it to YouTube; if so I will post it)
HERE is the article that goes with the interview.
if her GROWN DAUGHTER (who may have grown up in the US, at least partially) could only speak English THIS well, is it likely the MOTHER would speak it any better???
Alarming Claims Made by ‘Stepdaughter’ of Dallas Ebola Patient Likely Won’t Help Restore Confidence in CDC’s Handling of Case
Oct. 3, 2014 10:48pm Jason Howerton
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A woman who claims to be the “stepdaughter” of Dallas Ebola patient Thomas Duncan told CNN’s John Berman on Friday that she had close contact with her stepfather and ended up calling 911 when he became feverish and sweaty.
However, she also revealed a number of other “shocking” details about her interactions so far with Centers for Disease Control and Prevention officials.
This 2011 photo provided by Wilmot Chayee shows Thomas Eric Duncan at a wedding in Ghana. Duncan, who became the first patient diagnosed in the U.S with Ebola, has been kept in isolation at a hospital since Sunday, Sept. 28, 2014. He was listed in serious but stable condition. (AP Photo/Wilmot Chayee)
Firstly, Youngor Jallah claimed she found out that Duncan was diagnosed with the deadly Ebola virus on the news. She told Berman that no official with the CDC or other agency called to inform her.
“I saw it on the news. No one called me and tell me that step-daddy is positive of Ebola,” she added. “No one called me.”
The woman also said no official provided instructions as to how — or even if — she should clean and disinfect the apartment. Further, Jallah claimed she is still waiting to receive instructions from CDC officials on whether or not she should self-quarantine.
“No one is giving me no instructions and no one is telling me nothing,” she told CNN, later admitting that she is “scared” of contracting the Ebola virus.
“There’s no one to help, only Jesus,” Jallah continued. “We only depending on God.”
Haven't yet found pic or video of Louise Troh, but I HAVE found THIS little gold mine:
Louise Troh's DAUGHTER (Duncan's STEP-DAUGHTER) SPOKE TO CNN on Friday Oct. 3.
There is a VIDEO of that interview at this link:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...-restore-confidence-in-cdcs-handling-of-case/
You can ALSO see & hear the interview HERE:
http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2014/10/...ts-stepdaughter-no-one-is-telling-me-nothing/
(I'm going to look & see if anyone posted it to YouTube; if so I will post it)
HERE is the article that goes with the interview.
if her GROWN DAUGHTER (who may have grown up in the US, at least partially) could only speak English THIS well, is it likely the MOTHER would speak it any better???
Alarming Claims Made by ‘Stepdaughter’ of Dallas Ebola Patient Likely Won’t Help Restore Confidence in CDC’s Handling of Case
Oct. 3, 2014 10:48pm Jason Howerton
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A woman who claims to be the “stepdaughter” of Dallas Ebola patient Thomas Duncan told CNN’s John Berman on Friday that she had close contact with her stepfather and ended up calling 911 when he became feverish and sweaty.
However, she also revealed a number of other “shocking” details about her interactions so far with Centers for Disease Control and Prevention officials.
This 2011 photo provided by Wilmot Chayee shows Thomas Eric Duncan at a wedding in Ghana. Duncan, who became the first patient diagnosed in the U.S with Ebola, has been kept in isolation at a hospital since Sunday, Sept. 28, 2014. He was listed in serious but stable condition. (AP Photo/Wilmot Chayee)
Firstly, Youngor Jallah claimed she found out that Duncan was diagnosed with the deadly Ebola virus on the news. She told Berman that no official with the CDC or other agency called to inform her.
“I saw it on the news. No one called me and tell me that step-daddy is positive of Ebola,” she added. “No one called me.”
The woman also said no official provided instructions as to how — or even if — she should clean and disinfect the apartment. Further, Jallah claimed she is still waiting to receive instructions from CDC officials on whether or not she should self-quarantine.
“No one is giving me no instructions and no one is telling me nothing,” she told CNN, later admitting that she is “scared” of contracting the Ebola virus.
“There’s no one to help, only Jesus,” Jallah continued. “We only depending on God.”
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Kris, if none of the Duncan family are now infected it will be a medical miracle. Further, at least one of them must be infected using your one in five criteria.
Again, the CDC is hiding the Duncan family. The only logical reason is some of them are Ebola infected. Call me doubting Douglas, but I refuse to believe none of them has Ebola until I confirm it visually, at a live press conference. The CDC is acting like they have something to hide in my opinion.
Again, the CDC is hiding the Duncan family. The only logical reason is some of them are Ebola infected. Call me doubting Douglas, but I refuse to believe none of them has Ebola until I confirm it visually, at a live press conference. The CDC is acting like they have something to hide in my opinion.
Vessie, the reason they don't have an exact length of time is because it is all a matter of probabilities.
The probability decreases very rapidly at the 21 day mark and is down much lower at 42 days but doesn't go to absolute zero.
In fact no one can say when it goes to absolute zero with any certainty. The same is true of any virus.
Hell there is a theory that some viruses stay in our system for years and never cause a problem or go into active replication, until some unknown stimulus causes them to suddenly activate.
Scientists actually don't know much about the vast majority of viruses. They know about a couple of thousand that can potentially infect mammals but there are hundreds of thousands they don't know about or haven't identified.
The numbers are staggering. They say that in case of the flu, every infected airway cell produces up to 10,000 more viruses before it dies. During an infection the number of viruses in a persons body can rise to 100 trillion in just a few days.
http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2013/02/20/an-infinity-of-viruses/
When scientists say the incubation period is 21 days, it's a rough estimate based on previous incidents they have observed with people and with animals. It could be longer, but the probability decreases with each day beyond that. I bet no one can say the exact day that probability reaches zero.
Yes, in something this serious where people's lives are at stake, it would be an intelligent thing to error on the side of caution.
But,,,, who ever said the government was intelligent. I bet it would be a whole lot more than 21 days if Obama's family was potentially being exposed.
Countrymouse
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Okay, still searching archives but took break to search You Tube:
Found this from Mail Online---I'd forgotten about how, IMMEDIATELY AFTER SHE WAS OUTSIDE FREELY TALKING TO THE PRESS, the CDC / Texas stationed ARMED GUARDS outside her apt. to make her not "break quarantine":
Daily Mail OnLine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfBcmj_kOoY
Published on Oct 3, 2014
Ebola Victim's Family Quarantined Under Armed Guard
The family of Thomas Duncan are being forcibly quarantined in their apartment after they attempted to leave. Meanwhile, authorities are searching for anyone who might have come into contact with him.
Hazmat team finally arrive at Ebola victim's apartment FIVE DAYS after he was taken away by ambulance as his family remain quarantined under armed guard inside after one went to school on Wednesday
A hazmat team was finally on scene today to sanitize the contaminated apartment where the Ebola victim's family have been quarantined under police guard.
Louise Troh, her son Timothy Wayne, 13, nephew Oliver Smallwood, 21, and his friend Jeffrey Cole, have been legally ordered to stay inside the Dallas apartment where Ebola patient Thomas Duncan fell desperately ill last weekend.
The Dallas Fire Department's hazmat crew and a private cleaning company were both at the apartment complex this afternoon.
The confinement order, which also bans visitors, was imposed after the quarantined individuals tried to leave. The 13-year-old went to Tasby Middle School for part of Wednesday, Dallas News revealed today, but was sent home. School officials said again that no family members were exhibiting Ebola signs.
There were growing concerns over the conditions the family have been left in after Mr Duncan's girlfriend told CNN on Thursday that his sweat-soaked sheets were still on the bed - five days after he was taken to hospital with Ebola symptoms.
A cleaning crew was rushed to the scene by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) following the shocking revelation - only to be turned away by Tex
MailOnline was awaiting comments from the CDC and Texas Department of Health today.
The hazmat team arrived today a full five days after Mr Duncan was rushed by ambulance to Texas Presbyterian hospital after showing the contagious symptoms of Ebola.
Mr Duncan has now become too weak to talk and pray with his family on the phone from his quarantine unit, his nephew Joe Weeks told ABC today.
A Washington D.C. hospital said today that a patient was being tested for Ebola after presenting with symptoms. The patient, who had recently traveled to Nigeria, was isolated until the tests are completed.
Mr Duncan's family are expected to be relocated before the cleanup can begin but officials had no information on where the family would go.
Louise Troh said Thursday that she is tired of being locked up and wants federal health authorities to decontaminate her home.
The quarantine order would ensure the group can be closely monitored for signs of the disease at the North Dallas home, Texas State Health Commissioner David Lakey said.
Dr Lakey said during a press conference on Thursday that there had been 'a little bit of hesitancy' from cleaning companies when trying to find someone to do the job.
American Red Cross representatives delivered food to the apartment on Thursday and the North Texas Food Bank said it sent cereal, tuna, produce and other supplies.
Private security guards and sheriff's deputies blocked the entrance to the 300-unit apartment complex to dozens of reporters.
Texas health officials expanded their efforts to contain the virus, reaching out to as many as 100 people who may have had direct contact with Duncan or someone close to him.
None of them has shown symptoms, but they have been told to notify medical workers if they feel ill, said Erikka Neroes, a spokeswoman for the Dallas County Health and Human Services agency.
The at-risk group includes 12 to 18 people who had direct contact with the infected man, including an ambulance crew and a handful of schoolchildren, she said. The others came into contact with that core group.
'This is a big spider web' of people, Ms Neroes said.
Found this from Mail Online---I'd forgotten about how, IMMEDIATELY AFTER SHE WAS OUTSIDE FREELY TALKING TO THE PRESS, the CDC / Texas stationed ARMED GUARDS outside her apt. to make her not "break quarantine":
Daily Mail OnLine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfBcmj_kOoY
Published on Oct 3, 2014
Ebola Victim's Family Quarantined Under Armed Guard
The family of Thomas Duncan are being forcibly quarantined in their apartment after they attempted to leave. Meanwhile, authorities are searching for anyone who might have come into contact with him.
Hazmat team finally arrive at Ebola victim's apartment FIVE DAYS after he was taken away by ambulance as his family remain quarantined under armed guard inside after one went to school on Wednesday
A hazmat team was finally on scene today to sanitize the contaminated apartment where the Ebola victim's family have been quarantined under police guard.
Louise Troh, her son Timothy Wayne, 13, nephew Oliver Smallwood, 21, and his friend Jeffrey Cole, have been legally ordered to stay inside the Dallas apartment where Ebola patient Thomas Duncan fell desperately ill last weekend.
The Dallas Fire Department's hazmat crew and a private cleaning company were both at the apartment complex this afternoon.
The confinement order, which also bans visitors, was imposed after the quarantined individuals tried to leave. The 13-year-old went to Tasby Middle School for part of Wednesday, Dallas News revealed today, but was sent home. School officials said again that no family members were exhibiting Ebola signs.
There were growing concerns over the conditions the family have been left in after Mr Duncan's girlfriend told CNN on Thursday that his sweat-soaked sheets were still on the bed - five days after he was taken to hospital with Ebola symptoms.
A cleaning crew was rushed to the scene by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) following the shocking revelation - only to be turned away by Tex
MailOnline was awaiting comments from the CDC and Texas Department of Health today.
The hazmat team arrived today a full five days after Mr Duncan was rushed by ambulance to Texas Presbyterian hospital after showing the contagious symptoms of Ebola.
Mr Duncan has now become too weak to talk and pray with his family on the phone from his quarantine unit, his nephew Joe Weeks told ABC today.
A Washington D.C. hospital said today that a patient was being tested for Ebola after presenting with symptoms. The patient, who had recently traveled to Nigeria, was isolated until the tests are completed.
Mr Duncan's family are expected to be relocated before the cleanup can begin but officials had no information on where the family would go.
Louise Troh said Thursday that she is tired of being locked up and wants federal health authorities to decontaminate her home.
The quarantine order would ensure the group can be closely monitored for signs of the disease at the North Dallas home, Texas State Health Commissioner David Lakey said.
Dr Lakey said during a press conference on Thursday that there had been 'a little bit of hesitancy' from cleaning companies when trying to find someone to do the job.
American Red Cross representatives delivered food to the apartment on Thursday and the North Texas Food Bank said it sent cereal, tuna, produce and other supplies.
Private security guards and sheriff's deputies blocked the entrance to the 300-unit apartment complex to dozens of reporters.
Texas health officials expanded their efforts to contain the virus, reaching out to as many as 100 people who may have had direct contact with Duncan or someone close to him.
None of them has shown symptoms, but they have been told to notify medical workers if they feel ill, said Erikka Neroes, a spokeswoman for the Dallas County Health and Human Services agency.
The at-risk group includes 12 to 18 people who had direct contact with the infected man, including an ambulance crew and a handful of schoolchildren, she said. The others came into contact with that core group.
'This is a big spider web' of people, Ms Neroes said.
Mama Ten Bears
Veteran Member
The children are returning to school. No big conspiracy unless the kids no show. Jenkins specifically asked the middle school students to be kind when the boy returns.
Be Well
may all be well
So we need a photo of the boy returning to school with his mother so we know it's the real one. No one on earth would know if "a boy" was the actual son of Youngor Jallah.
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
This one has a SHORT snippet of her talking, complaining about how the CDC has not yet cleaned up the apartment (her comments, plus the earlier ones I posted by her daughter, definitely would NOT have endeared her to the CDC---she was telling the ENTIRE NEWS MEDIA what a POOR JOB the CDC was doing!---so she was silenced...as well as the fact that they HAD to get them out of sight before they showed VISIBLE signs of infection---just their very PRESENCE if they got sick would blow the CDC's lies sky-high...)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDH5KTBU9h8
The next one, while is has no quotes, has good pics of Duncan's mother and (I believe) his sister, which may be useful for future reference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuWg1EKCQQE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDH5KTBU9h8
The next one, while is has no quotes, has good pics of Duncan's mother and (I believe) his sister, which may be useful for future reference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuWg1EKCQQE
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Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Here is the video where the step-daughter (Louise Troh's daughter) is told she can go back to work (this is after her mother, brother, cousin, and a friend of theirs were all sent off into quarantine at the undisclosed location)--good article with it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFBsRNKPU7Y
Published on Oct 6, 2014
Dallas Ebola victim's stepdaughter - who took him to hospital as he was 'vomiting wildly' - is given all clear to return to work as nursing assistant
Youngor Jallah, 35, was called by the CDC on Sunday to say she can go back to work
Ms Jallah was with Thomas Eric Duncan when he was taken to a Dallas hospital. She made him tea, helped him move and was in ambulance with him
She told MailOnline: 'They said I can go back to work but I do not know what I will do. I will not go back yet'
It can take 21 days for a patient to begin to come down with the dreaded disease from the time they first come in contact with a sufferer
But people are not considered infectious if they are not showing symptoms
Mr Duncan, 42, remains in a critical condition and is being given an experimental drug to aid his desperate struggle for life
The stepdaughter of Texas Ebola victim, Thomas Duncan, who called 911 and rode in the ambulance with the man she calls 'Daddy' has been told she can return to work, MailOnline can reveal.
Nursing assistant Youngor Jallah, 35, has been in 'quarantine' in her small Dallas apartment along with her husband, Aaron Yah, 43, and their four children ages 2 to 11 since Thomas Duncan's devastating diagnosis last Monday.
MailOnline has reported that Mr Yah, also a nursing assistant, had been told he could return to work at the end of last week.
Green light: Youngor Jallah, the stepdaughter of Ebola victim Thomas Eric Duncan, told MailOnline that the CDC has told her that she could return to work as a nursing assistant. But she isn't leaving her home at the moment
Ms Jallah whose contact with Mr Duncan - who remains in a critical condition - was far more intimate and prolonged than that of her husband, told MailOnline on Monday: 'The CDC came yesterday. They said I can go back to work but I do not know what I will do. I will not go back yet.'
Doctors say that no-one is at risk of catching the virus unless they come into contact with a sufferer who is exhibiting symptoms.
But it is unlikely that Youngor will return to work until the family have gone through the 21 days considered the latest time between exposure and manifestation of Ebola.
She does not intend to allow her eldest child to return to school before the October 17. She has no child-care provisions either - as her mother, Louise Troh, 54, the woman who Mr Duncan traveled to the States to marry, provided childcare and remains in quarantine in a secret location along with her 13-year-old son, nephew and a friend.
Published on Oct 6, 2014
Dallas Ebola victim's stepdaughter - who took him to hospital as he was 'vomiting wildly' - is given all clear to return to work as nursing assistant
Youngor Jallah, 35, was called by the CDC on Sunday to say she can go back to work
Ms Jallah was with Thomas Eric Duncan when he was taken to a Dallas hospital. She made him tea, helped him move and was in ambulance with him
She told MailOnline: 'They said I can go back to work but I do not know what I will do. I will not go back yet'
It can take 21 days for a patient to begin to come down with the dreaded disease from the time they first come in contact with a sufferer
But people are not considered infectious if they are not showing symptoms
Mr Duncan, 42, remains in a critical condition and is being given an experimental drug to aid his desperate struggle for life
The stepdaughter of Texas Ebola victim, Thomas Duncan, who called 911 and rode in the ambulance with the man she calls 'Daddy' has been told she can return to work, MailOnline can reveal.
Nursing assistant Youngor Jallah, 35, has been in 'quarantine' in her small Dallas apartment along with her husband, Aaron Yah, 43, and their four children ages 2 to 11 since Thomas Duncan's devastating diagnosis last Monday.
MailOnline has reported that Mr Yah, also a nursing assistant, had been told he could return to work at the end of last week.
Green light: Youngor Jallah, the stepdaughter of Ebola victim Thomas Eric Duncan, told MailOnline that the CDC has told her that she could return to work as a nursing assistant. But she isn't leaving her home at the moment
Ms Jallah whose contact with Mr Duncan - who remains in a critical condition - was far more intimate and prolonged than that of her husband, told MailOnline on Monday: 'The CDC came yesterday. They said I can go back to work but I do not know what I will do. I will not go back yet.'
Doctors say that no-one is at risk of catching the virus unless they come into contact with a sufferer who is exhibiting symptoms.
But it is unlikely that Youngor will return to work until the family have gone through the 21 days considered the latest time between exposure and manifestation of Ebola.
She does not intend to allow her eldest child to return to school before the October 17. She has no child-care provisions either - as her mother, Louise Troh, 54, the woman who Mr Duncan traveled to the States to marry, provided childcare and remains in quarantine in a secret location along with her 13-year-old son, nephew and a friend.
Mama Ten Bears
Veteran Member
Everyone who goes to that school will be paying attention. I can't believe y'all actually think they were Nonexistant before this. Not possible to slip a fast one.
Be Well
may all be well
It is very odd that Youngor Jallah was allowed to go back to work in a few days, when she had been touching Duncan when he was very symptomatic and vomiting. And now people who even went to the bridal shop are being searched for. Nothing makes sense.
I want to see Youngor Jallah live on TV.
I want to see Youngor Jallah live on TV.
Be Well
may all be well
Actually, considering that there is no doubt that the gov has given a gag order one way or another for all individuals, hospitals and media about any ebola patients, it is possible. Threats work wonders.
Mama Ten Bears
Veteran Member
There won't be a gag order for the 100s of families at the four different schools.
Be Well
may all be well
How difficult would it be to say "the children are now attending a private/other school to protect their privacy". And if some of these children are Youngor Jallah's, why were they not going to school but she could go back to work as a nurse's aide? I don't know who all these children were, but some of them were hers for sure. None of it makes sense.
almost ready
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This was written by a professional writer, not an HCW. Smells worse than ever. Looks like they're going to keep the Troh family under wraps longer, now, pleading "privacy".....
until after the election, at least!
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Ebola-Victims-Family-Prepares-to-Leave-Quarantine-279633312.html
Here's Troh's full statement:
Tomorrow, my family and I will complete the 21-day quarantine period we were required to undergo because of the Ebola virus in Dallas. We are so happy this is coming to an end, and we are so grateful that none of us has shown any sign of illness.
Our happiness is mixed with sadness at the same time. My beloved fiancé, Thomas Eric Duncan, who was also the father of my son, Karsiah Eric Duncan, did not survive with us. We continue to mourn his loss and grieve the circumstances that led to his death, just at the time we thought we were facing a happy future together. Our hearts also go out to the two brave women who have been infected by this terrible disease as they were trying to help him. We are also aware of how much this has affected many other people of my city, Dallas, and my country, the United States of America, even as it has in the country of my birth, Liberia. We also know that many people who work in Presbyterian Hospital are hurting because of this tragedy. We pray that God will bring healing to all in our community soon.
We thank all people of kindness who have prayed for us during this time, and we join your prayers now for others who are suffering too. We have lost so much, but we have our lives and we have our faith in God, which always gives us hope.
Even though the quarantine is over, our time of mourning is not over. Because of that, we ask to be given privacy as we seek to rebuild our home, our family and our daily living. We will not give any interviews at this time. I do have a story to tell, and I look forward to telling it in my own way at the right time.
At this time, I would like to give my thanks to Mayor Mike Rawlings and Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins for all the help and kindness they have shown me in the last three weeks. These two men have cared about me as a person. The many people who work with and for them, and also the state health workers who have cared for us, have been angels from God who have kept our spirits up through all of this. And of course I want to thank all my family, the Liberian community, and my friends at Wilshire Baptist Church. I look forward to seeing you all soon.
All glory be to God.
until after the election, at least!
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Ebola-Victims-Family-Prepares-to-Leave-Quarantine-279633312.html
Here's Troh's full statement:
Tomorrow, my family and I will complete the 21-day quarantine period we were required to undergo because of the Ebola virus in Dallas. We are so happy this is coming to an end, and we are so grateful that none of us has shown any sign of illness.
Our happiness is mixed with sadness at the same time. My beloved fiancé, Thomas Eric Duncan, who was also the father of my son, Karsiah Eric Duncan, did not survive with us. We continue to mourn his loss and grieve the circumstances that led to his death, just at the time we thought we were facing a happy future together. Our hearts also go out to the two brave women who have been infected by this terrible disease as they were trying to help him. We are also aware of how much this has affected many other people of my city, Dallas, and my country, the United States of America, even as it has in the country of my birth, Liberia. We also know that many people who work in Presbyterian Hospital are hurting because of this tragedy. We pray that God will bring healing to all in our community soon.
We thank all people of kindness who have prayed for us during this time, and we join your prayers now for others who are suffering too. We have lost so much, but we have our lives and we have our faith in God, which always gives us hope.
Even though the quarantine is over, our time of mourning is not over. Because of that, we ask to be given privacy as we seek to rebuild our home, our family and our daily living. We will not give any interviews at this time. I do have a story to tell, and I look forward to telling it in my own way at the right time.
At this time, I would like to give my thanks to Mayor Mike Rawlings and Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins for all the help and kindness they have shown me in the last three weeks. These two men have cared about me as a person. The many people who work with and for them, and also the state health workers who have cared for us, have been angels from God who have kept our spirits up through all of this. And of course I want to thank all my family, the Liberian community, and my friends at Wilshire Baptist Church. I look forward to seeing you all soon.
All glory be to God.
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Best pic yet
Has a pic at the 00:57 sec. mark where a seated woman is seen--Louise Troh most likely; also shows her son and the older boy (nephew?).
Interesting to see the EXTENT to which the HAZMAT crew went in cleaning up this place---the kiddie pool full of bleach that they placed to walk in after they were done alone speaks volumes....
the Hazmat crew took ALL THESE PRECAUTIONS you will see in this film, yet--miraculously---Louis Troh, her 13 year old son, her grown nephew, and a young friend of theirs lived IN the contaminated apartment four days after Duncan was FINALLY accepted into the hospital (by which time he was projectile vomiting, per family reports above) and AFTER they admit holding him and caring for him WITHOUT any PPE protections---and yet THEY are all WELL, FINE, and RELEASED today.
I have a gold mine I'd LOVE to sell you, if you believe that---only $8 million today, a bargain...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj4okCtyvTM
back to searching the Ebola thread for that live interview I remember seeing her do...
Has a pic at the 00:57 sec. mark where a seated woman is seen--Louise Troh most likely; also shows her son and the older boy (nephew?).
Interesting to see the EXTENT to which the HAZMAT crew went in cleaning up this place---the kiddie pool full of bleach that they placed to walk in after they were done alone speaks volumes....
the Hazmat crew took ALL THESE PRECAUTIONS you will see in this film, yet--miraculously---Louis Troh, her 13 year old son, her grown nephew, and a young friend of theirs lived IN the contaminated apartment four days after Duncan was FINALLY accepted into the hospital (by which time he was projectile vomiting, per family reports above) and AFTER they admit holding him and caring for him WITHOUT any PPE protections---and yet THEY are all WELL, FINE, and RELEASED today.
I have a gold mine I'd LOVE to sell you, if you believe that---only $8 million today, a bargain...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj4okCtyvTM
back to searching the Ebola thread for that live interview I remember seeing her do...
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
JACKPOT!!!
This video has images of the family AS THEY ARE TAKEN FROM THEIR APARTMENT, to the "undisclosed location", so we can be fairly certain these are the last pictures publicized of Louise Troh, her son, her nephew, and a friend of theirs who was with them when the apt. was put under quarantine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msew1xBr_fQ
This video has images of the family AS THEY ARE TAKEN FROM THEIR APARTMENT, to the "undisclosed location", so we can be fairly certain these are the last pictures publicized of Louise Troh, her son, her nephew, and a friend of theirs who was with them when the apt. was put under quarantine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msew1xBr_fQ
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
interesting article from Oct. 2 from Judge Jenkins--he's VERY ANTSY to get them moved "five minutes ago"...
Quarantined family in Ebola patient's apartment should be moved, judge says
(CNN) -- The quarantined partner of Ebola patient Thomas Eric Duncan should be moved with her family out of the Texas apartment where Duncan became sick with the virus and where his sweat-stained sheets were still on the bed, the Dallas County director of homeland security said.
Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins, also director of the county's Homeland Security and Emergency Management, said officials are working on that relocation after Duncan's girlfriend told CNN of being forced to live with distressing living conditions. You have got to be kidding, her own apartment.
Jenkins acknowledged "some hygiene issues" in the apartment.
"I would like to see those people moved to better living conditions," Jenkins told CNN's Jake Tapper on Thursday afternoon. "We are working on that. I would like to move them five minutes ago."
4 people quarantined in U.S. Ebola scare
The partner, who asked to be identified only by her first name, Louise, is quarantined with one of her children younger than 13 and two nephews in their 20s because they were in the apartment when Duncan became ill, she told CNN's Anderson Cooper.
She also doesn't know what to do with Duncan's towels, so she stowed them in plastic bags, Cooper said. Cooper's interview with Louise will air Thursday evening on CNN's "AC360˚."
"This is a woman of strong faith," Cooper said of the quarantine. "She's praying a lot."
In the wake of Louise's revelations about Duncan's sheets and towels, a medical waste contractor was on the way to her apartment, a CDC official said Thursday.
The official did not explain why the contractor is on its way only now, as Duncan was removed from the apartment on Sunday by ambulance and taken to the hospital.
Duncan, a 42-year-old Liberian citizen, is in serious condition in a Dallas hospital, a spokeswoman said. As of Thursday, the family members weren't showing symptoms of the Ebola virus, officials said.
Jenkins acknowledged problems with Louise's apartment but defended the overall government response.
"We have some hygiene issues that we are addressing in that apartment," Jenkins said earlier in the day. "Those people in the apartment are part of Dallas County, and they're going to be treated with utmost respect and dignity in this unusual situation.
"We are working to get the response, which has been a good response, strengthened every hour of the day," the judge said.
On Thursday evening, the apartment complex was experiencing a blackout after a storm struck and a transformer blew. Without air conditioning, residents opened their doors.
Louise, a caregiver, sometimes refers to Duncan as her husband and sometimes as the father of at least one of her children, Cooper said. "They're not legally married, but they clearly have some sort of relationship."
Forced to stay in remain in her apartment, Louise is worried, not knowing what to do and waiting on federal health officials, Cooper said. She and her family will be quarantined for 21 days, and she's frequently taking her family members' temperatures as well as her own.
"She doesn't know how she's going to get food into the apartment. She was told she said maybe the Red Cross would come by. She's still waiting for that," Cooper said.
"Some health officials brought sandwiches last night, but she hasn't had anything today," Cooper said. "She's certainly kind of at loose ends and is obviously extremely worried."
Later in the day Thursday, officials were delivering food to Louise and her three family members, said Dr. David Lakey, commissioner of the Texas Department of State Health Services.
The apartment is being monitored with local law enforcement, Lakey said.
Judge Jenkins said that at one point, Louise and her family especially "were noncompliant with the request to stay home."
Mayor Mike Rawlings acknowledged other problems outside the apartment building, blaming the media and saying "it is as best disorganized out there."
The city has embedded police at the apartment complex "to make sure there is calm," the mayor said.
Despite the close contact, Louise "does not feel that she came into any contact with any (bodily) fluids" from Duncan, Cooper said.
"She says he didn't vomit on her. She wasn't cleaning up after him. She said he was very much sort of prideful, would take care of himself, go into the bathroom when he had diarrhea," Cooper said.
Louise and her family are in isolation with sheets and towels used by the Ebola-stricken Duncan, Cooper said. Louise did use bleach to clean her apartment, "but it's not clear to me how systematic the cleaning was," he said.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/02/us/tex...can/index.html
http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/show...10-8-2014-FIRST-IN-USA!&p=5368834#post5368834
Quarantined family in Ebola patient's apartment should be moved, judge says
(CNN) -- The quarantined partner of Ebola patient Thomas Eric Duncan should be moved with her family out of the Texas apartment where Duncan became sick with the virus and where his sweat-stained sheets were still on the bed, the Dallas County director of homeland security said.
Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins, also director of the county's Homeland Security and Emergency Management, said officials are working on that relocation after Duncan's girlfriend told CNN of being forced to live with distressing living conditions. You have got to be kidding, her own apartment.
Jenkins acknowledged "some hygiene issues" in the apartment.
"I would like to see those people moved to better living conditions," Jenkins told CNN's Jake Tapper on Thursday afternoon. "We are working on that. I would like to move them five minutes ago."
4 people quarantined in U.S. Ebola scare
The partner, who asked to be identified only by her first name, Louise, is quarantined with one of her children younger than 13 and two nephews in their 20s because they were in the apartment when Duncan became ill, she told CNN's Anderson Cooper.
She also doesn't know what to do with Duncan's towels, so she stowed them in plastic bags, Cooper said. Cooper's interview with Louise will air Thursday evening on CNN's "AC360˚."
"This is a woman of strong faith," Cooper said of the quarantine. "She's praying a lot."
In the wake of Louise's revelations about Duncan's sheets and towels, a medical waste contractor was on the way to her apartment, a CDC official said Thursday.
The official did not explain why the contractor is on its way only now, as Duncan was removed from the apartment on Sunday by ambulance and taken to the hospital.
Duncan, a 42-year-old Liberian citizen, is in serious condition in a Dallas hospital, a spokeswoman said. As of Thursday, the family members weren't showing symptoms of the Ebola virus, officials said.
Jenkins acknowledged problems with Louise's apartment but defended the overall government response.
"We have some hygiene issues that we are addressing in that apartment," Jenkins said earlier in the day. "Those people in the apartment are part of Dallas County, and they're going to be treated with utmost respect and dignity in this unusual situation.
"We are working to get the response, which has been a good response, strengthened every hour of the day," the judge said.
On Thursday evening, the apartment complex was experiencing a blackout after a storm struck and a transformer blew. Without air conditioning, residents opened their doors.
Louise, a caregiver, sometimes refers to Duncan as her husband and sometimes as the father of at least one of her children, Cooper said. "They're not legally married, but they clearly have some sort of relationship."
Forced to stay in remain in her apartment, Louise is worried, not knowing what to do and waiting on federal health officials, Cooper said. She and her family will be quarantined for 21 days, and she's frequently taking her family members' temperatures as well as her own.
"She doesn't know how she's going to get food into the apartment. She was told she said maybe the Red Cross would come by. She's still waiting for that," Cooper said.
"Some health officials brought sandwiches last night, but she hasn't had anything today," Cooper said. "She's certainly kind of at loose ends and is obviously extremely worried."
Later in the day Thursday, officials were delivering food to Louise and her three family members, said Dr. David Lakey, commissioner of the Texas Department of State Health Services.
The apartment is being monitored with local law enforcement, Lakey said.
Judge Jenkins said that at one point, Louise and her family especially "were noncompliant with the request to stay home."
Mayor Mike Rawlings acknowledged other problems outside the apartment building, blaming the media and saying "it is as best disorganized out there."
The city has embedded police at the apartment complex "to make sure there is calm," the mayor said.
Despite the close contact, Louise "does not feel that she came into any contact with any (bodily) fluids" from Duncan, Cooper said.
"She says he didn't vomit on her. She wasn't cleaning up after him. She said he was very much sort of prideful, would take care of himself, go into the bathroom when he had diarrhea," Cooper said.
Louise and her family are in isolation with sheets and towels used by the Ebola-stricken Duncan, Cooper said. Louise did use bleach to clean her apartment, "but it's not clear to me how systematic the cleaning was," he said.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/02/us/tex...can/index.html
http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/show...10-8-2014-FIRST-IN-USA!&p=5368834#post5368834
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
ANOTHER jackpot
LOTS of pics of the DAUGHTER of Louise Troh, Youngor Jallah, 35, Duncan’s stepdaughter.
http://gotnews.com/tag/louise-troh/
Also this site says the family--or at least Duncan's 17-year-old son--is not the sweet, God-fearing meek family that may have been portrayed in the media.
The site shows SEVERAL pics of the 17-year-old son of Louise Troh and Duncan, flashing gang signs and hanging with his friends.
Here are the pics of the STEP-DAUGHTER, Youngor Jallah, so that SHE will NOT be confused with her MOTHER Louise Troh:
This last one actually may BE the 57-year-old Louise Troh, or it may be the daugher Jallah--hard for me to tell & it is not labeled:
Text with the photos reads as follows:
Her never before seen photos are below.
Youngor Jallah, 35, is Duncan’s stepdaughter.
Jallah called the ambulance when Thomas Eric Duncan.
The Daily Mail reported the following:
Jallah’s next meeting with health workers was on Wednesday night when she and her husband Yah were visited at their second-floor apartment by officials from the state and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
The officials took the temperature of everyone who lives in the apartment – Jallah, her husband and their four children – a daughter and three sons, ages 2 to 11.
The night before Duncan was taken to the hospital,the children had stayed over at their grandmothers and slept on her couches.
The health workers told the family not to leave their apartment, but when Jallah explained that they didn’t have any food they told her that she and her husband could go to the store.
Are you insane? You can go to the store?! After handling clothing and other material of an Ebola-stricken man?
So here are photos taken from her Facebook page:
LOTS of pics of the DAUGHTER of Louise Troh, Youngor Jallah, 35, Duncan’s stepdaughter.
http://gotnews.com/tag/louise-troh/
Also this site says the family--or at least Duncan's 17-year-old son--is not the sweet, God-fearing meek family that may have been portrayed in the media.
The site shows SEVERAL pics of the 17-year-old son of Louise Troh and Duncan, flashing gang signs and hanging with his friends.
Here are the pics of the STEP-DAUGHTER, Youngor Jallah, so that SHE will NOT be confused with her MOTHER Louise Troh:
This last one actually may BE the 57-year-old Louise Troh, or it may be the daugher Jallah--hard for me to tell & it is not labeled:
Text with the photos reads as follows:
Her never before seen photos are below.
Youngor Jallah, 35, is Duncan’s stepdaughter.
Jallah called the ambulance when Thomas Eric Duncan.
The Daily Mail reported the following:
Jallah’s next meeting with health workers was on Wednesday night when she and her husband Yah were visited at their second-floor apartment by officials from the state and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
The officials took the temperature of everyone who lives in the apartment – Jallah, her husband and their four children – a daughter and three sons, ages 2 to 11.
The night before Duncan was taken to the hospital,the children had stayed over at their grandmothers and slept on her couches.
The health workers told the family not to leave their apartment, but when Jallah explained that they didn’t have any food they told her that she and her husband could go to the store.
Are you insane? You can go to the store?! After handling clothing and other material of an Ebola-stricken man?
So here are photos taken from her Facebook page:
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Fringe Ranger
People who are disappeared are disappeared forever. This does not look good.
Sleeping Cobra
TB Fanatic
With all the contradicting main stream media reports it's hard to know just what to believe any more. They can be dead and yet the main stream media will report they left the hospital not mentioning they died of Ebola.
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
YAHOOO !!!!!! I FOUND IT !!!!!!!!!!
"Girlfriend" Louise Troh's INTERVIEW WITH ANDERSON COOPER FROM QUARANTINE---
SO YOU CAN HEAR HOW SHE EXPRESSES HERSELF, FOR YOURSELF--!!!
http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2014/10/...la-patient-speaks-from-quarantine/?hpt=ac_mid
If I can find this on You Tube, I will post it; if not---SOMEBODY PLEASE DOWNLOAD THIS before it VANISHES, and save it and put it up in a format we ALL can hear!!!
"Girlfriend" Louise Troh's INTERVIEW WITH ANDERSON COOPER FROM QUARANTINE---
SO YOU CAN HEAR HOW SHE EXPRESSES HERSELF, FOR YOURSELF--!!!
http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2014/10/...la-patient-speaks-from-quarantine/?hpt=ac_mid
If I can find this on You Tube, I will post it; if not---SOMEBODY PLEASE DOWNLOAD THIS before it VANISHES, and save it and put it up in a format we ALL can hear!!!
Be Well
may all be well
The woman in the white clothes sitting in the black chair looks way too young to be Louise Troh; her facial structure looks like Youngor, and skin color is exactly like Youngor's. Troh's skin is much darker and her facial structure is quite different. The woman in the black chair has different eyebrows than Youngor but only due to the other photos of Youngor having more plucking on them. Woman on black chair has eyemakeup smeared below eyes (or on purpose) or strange shadows, that is why her resemblence to the other photos of Youngor look a bit different, imho.
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
msswv123
Veteran Member
As quarantine nears end, Ebola victim's fiancee cites two brave nurses
October 19 2014
Ebola victim Thomas Eric Duncan's friends and family were due to get out of quarantine on Monday, and his fiancee said none of them were ill.
Louise Troh issued a statement Sunday through her pastor, saying the family is grateful for their health, but saddened that two nurses contracted the deadly virus as they fought in vain to save Duncan's life.
"Tomorrow, my family and I will complete the 21-day quarantine period we were required to undergo because of the Ebola virus in Dallas," Troh said. "We are so happy this is coming to an end, and we are so grateful that none of us has shown any sign of illness.
"Our happiness is mixed with sadness at the same time," she continued. "My beloved fiance ... did not survive with us. ... Our hearts also go out to the two brave women who have been infected by this terrible disease as they were trying to help him."
Troh, 54, acknowledged that Ebola had affected Dallas, Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital and the nation, saying, "We pray that God will bring healing to all in our community soon."
She thanked everyone who showed the family kindness and who prayed for them, singling out Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings and Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins. "These two men have cared about me as a person," she said.
She also thanked the local Liberian community, health officials and Wilshire Baptist Church.
The pastor, the Rev. George Mason, said Troh was looking forward to seeing her four grandchildren, who were not quarantined with her but who stayed home with their parents during the 21-day incubation period for Ebola, which is spread by the bodily fluids of those who are showing symptoms.
"They want to resume their life and fade into the woodwork as fast as possible," Mason told the Los Angeles Times.
Troh said the family needs privacy "as we seek to rebuild our home, our family and our daily living. We will not give any interviews at this time. I do have a story to tell, and I look forward to telling it in my own way at the right time."
Mason said Troh, a nursing assistant at a local nursing home, is working on a book.
The two nurses Troh referred to are Nina Pham, who is being treated at the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda, Md., and Amber Vinson, who is at Emory University Hospital in Atlanta.
Vinson had traveled to Ohio on Oct. 10 and returned to Dallas on Oct. 13. On Sunday, Ohio officials raised the number of people being monitored there to 153 and announced stricter travel rules to stop possible Ebola transmission.
Three Ohioans are under quarantine, and county health officials are taking the temperatures of another 22 Ohioans twice a day to check for fever, thought to be among the earliest warning signs of Ebola.
In an abundance of caution, Ohio officials announced Saturday that those being directly monitored are forbidden to leave their counties without permission, and that another 48 Ohioans who are monitoring themselves for fever are forbidden from leaving the U.S. (Fifty-two other Ohioans are taking their own temperatures but aren't required to check in or limit their travel.)
"We don’t want to take the slightest chance for this disease to potentially spread, we don’t want people in other places to have to deal with what we’re dealing with and we don’t want potentially sick Ohioans to go beyond the reach of the good care we know we have here at home in the unlikely event that they get sick,” Dr. Mary DiOrio, state epidemiologist and interim chief of the ODH Bureau of Prevention and Health Promotion, said in a statement.
“We’re taking an aggressive approach, no doubt about it, but it’s just common sense," DiOrio added. "Some might criticize us for being too aggressive, but we’re comfortable taking that criticism.”
The weekend's announcement came as political fallout and anxiety over Ebola's arrival in the United States has continued to spread seemingly faster than the virus itself, with scares and false alarms being reported all over the country.
Currently, the only two confirmed transmissions in the U.S. are Vinson and Pham, who was described Sunday as stable and in fair condition. Both contracted it from Duncan, who had recently arrived from Liberia and who died Oct. 8.
On Sunday, the CEO of Texas Health Resources published an apology in Dallas-area newspapers for Presbyterian Hospital's decision to send Duncan home after his first arrival at the emergency room with Ebola symptoms.
"We examined him thoroughly and performed numerous tests, but the fact that Mr. Duncan had traveled to Africa was not communicated effectively among the care team, though it was in his medical chart," wrote the CEO, Barclay Berdan. "On that visit to the Emergency Department, we did not correctly diagnose his symptoms as those of Ebola. For this, we are deeply sorry."
But Berdan insisted that the infected nurses had correctly followed Centers for Disease Control and Prevention treatment guidelines and that the reason for their infection was still under investigation.
The co-president of one of the nation's largest nurses unions, Oakland-based National Nurses United, responded on CBS' "Face the Nation." "An apology is always nice, but a corporate CEO apology doesn't save lives," Jean Ross said Sunday.
Ross called for uniform safety standards that included a buddy system and hazardous material suits and respirator masks, saying a fragmented national medical care system has led to different safety standards at different hospitals.
"Unfortunately, in this country, we have a profit-driven healthcare system. And you cannot put a price on nurses and other healthcare workers' lives," Ross said, adding, "The nurses overwhelmingly told us, ... 'We are not ready.' "
Also appearing on "Face the Nation," Dr. Anthony Fauci of the National Institutes of Health said that the new CDC guidelines for handling the virus -- which were expected to be announced soon -- would be modeled after World Health Organization guidelines.
"It's predicated on no skin exposed, good training, having somebody monitor you back and forth to make sure you put your garb on and you take it off well," said Fauci, an immunologist who is the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious diseases.
Fauci is among the doctors treating Pham. He told CNN's "State of the Union" on Sunday: "She's doing fine. Her condition is fair. She is stable. ... She's a lovely young lady. I think when the world gets to see her and we hope she'll be out and we'll walk out of the hospital with her, you'll see what I'm talking about."
Asked about Vinson, Fauci said, "I'm taking care of Nina. I know a lot about Nina but not much about Amber."
Dallas officials announced that Pham's dog, Bentley, would be transferred to a special kennel where his urine and feces could be collected for testing during his 21-day quarantine.
“We are hopeful that Bentley’s journey will contribute to what we know about Ebola and dogs, since they play such an important role in so many people's lives," Dr. Cate McManus, of Dallas Animal Services, said in a statement.
A Spanish dog was not so fortunate after its mistress, a nurse's assistant, became infected with Ebola after caring for a patient there. Top government officials announced Sunday that the infected nursing assistant's blood no longer shows traces of Ebola, an indication that she may have beaten the virus, according to the Associated Press.
The CDC says there has been no documented case of a dog -- or a cat, for that matter -- transmitting the virus to humans, or of either animal getting sick. However, a small study indicated that dogs could carry the virus
http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-dallas-ebola-louise-troh-20141019-story.html#page=1
October 19 2014
Ebola victim Thomas Eric Duncan's friends and family were due to get out of quarantine on Monday, and his fiancee said none of them were ill.
Louise Troh issued a statement Sunday through her pastor, saying the family is grateful for their health, but saddened that two nurses contracted the deadly virus as they fought in vain to save Duncan's life.
"Tomorrow, my family and I will complete the 21-day quarantine period we were required to undergo because of the Ebola virus in Dallas," Troh said. "We are so happy this is coming to an end, and we are so grateful that none of us has shown any sign of illness.
"Our happiness is mixed with sadness at the same time," she continued. "My beloved fiance ... did not survive with us. ... Our hearts also go out to the two brave women who have been infected by this terrible disease as they were trying to help him."
Troh, 54, acknowledged that Ebola had affected Dallas, Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital and the nation, saying, "We pray that God will bring healing to all in our community soon."
She thanked everyone who showed the family kindness and who prayed for them, singling out Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings and Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins. "These two men have cared about me as a person," she said.
She also thanked the local Liberian community, health officials and Wilshire Baptist Church.
The pastor, the Rev. George Mason, said Troh was looking forward to seeing her four grandchildren, who were not quarantined with her but who stayed home with their parents during the 21-day incubation period for Ebola, which is spread by the bodily fluids of those who are showing symptoms.
"They want to resume their life and fade into the woodwork as fast as possible," Mason told the Los Angeles Times.
Troh said the family needs privacy "as we seek to rebuild our home, our family and our daily living. We will not give any interviews at this time. I do have a story to tell, and I look forward to telling it in my own way at the right time."
Mason said Troh, a nursing assistant at a local nursing home, is working on a book.
The two nurses Troh referred to are Nina Pham, who is being treated at the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda, Md., and Amber Vinson, who is at Emory University Hospital in Atlanta.
Vinson had traveled to Ohio on Oct. 10 and returned to Dallas on Oct. 13. On Sunday, Ohio officials raised the number of people being monitored there to 153 and announced stricter travel rules to stop possible Ebola transmission.
Three Ohioans are under quarantine, and county health officials are taking the temperatures of another 22 Ohioans twice a day to check for fever, thought to be among the earliest warning signs of Ebola.
In an abundance of caution, Ohio officials announced Saturday that those being directly monitored are forbidden to leave their counties without permission, and that another 48 Ohioans who are monitoring themselves for fever are forbidden from leaving the U.S. (Fifty-two other Ohioans are taking their own temperatures but aren't required to check in or limit their travel.)
"We don’t want to take the slightest chance for this disease to potentially spread, we don’t want people in other places to have to deal with what we’re dealing with and we don’t want potentially sick Ohioans to go beyond the reach of the good care we know we have here at home in the unlikely event that they get sick,” Dr. Mary DiOrio, state epidemiologist and interim chief of the ODH Bureau of Prevention and Health Promotion, said in a statement.
“We’re taking an aggressive approach, no doubt about it, but it’s just common sense," DiOrio added. "Some might criticize us for being too aggressive, but we’re comfortable taking that criticism.”
The weekend's announcement came as political fallout and anxiety over Ebola's arrival in the United States has continued to spread seemingly faster than the virus itself, with scares and false alarms being reported all over the country.
Currently, the only two confirmed transmissions in the U.S. are Vinson and Pham, who was described Sunday as stable and in fair condition. Both contracted it from Duncan, who had recently arrived from Liberia and who died Oct. 8.
On Sunday, the CEO of Texas Health Resources published an apology in Dallas-area newspapers for Presbyterian Hospital's decision to send Duncan home after his first arrival at the emergency room with Ebola symptoms.
"We examined him thoroughly and performed numerous tests, but the fact that Mr. Duncan had traveled to Africa was not communicated effectively among the care team, though it was in his medical chart," wrote the CEO, Barclay Berdan. "On that visit to the Emergency Department, we did not correctly diagnose his symptoms as those of Ebola. For this, we are deeply sorry."
But Berdan insisted that the infected nurses had correctly followed Centers for Disease Control and Prevention treatment guidelines and that the reason for their infection was still under investigation.
The co-president of one of the nation's largest nurses unions, Oakland-based National Nurses United, responded on CBS' "Face the Nation." "An apology is always nice, but a corporate CEO apology doesn't save lives," Jean Ross said Sunday.
Ross called for uniform safety standards that included a buddy system and hazardous material suits and respirator masks, saying a fragmented national medical care system has led to different safety standards at different hospitals.
"Unfortunately, in this country, we have a profit-driven healthcare system. And you cannot put a price on nurses and other healthcare workers' lives," Ross said, adding, "The nurses overwhelmingly told us, ... 'We are not ready.' "
Also appearing on "Face the Nation," Dr. Anthony Fauci of the National Institutes of Health said that the new CDC guidelines for handling the virus -- which were expected to be announced soon -- would be modeled after World Health Organization guidelines.
"It's predicated on no skin exposed, good training, having somebody monitor you back and forth to make sure you put your garb on and you take it off well," said Fauci, an immunologist who is the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious diseases.
Fauci is among the doctors treating Pham. He told CNN's "State of the Union" on Sunday: "She's doing fine. Her condition is fair. She is stable. ... She's a lovely young lady. I think when the world gets to see her and we hope she'll be out and we'll walk out of the hospital with her, you'll see what I'm talking about."
Asked about Vinson, Fauci said, "I'm taking care of Nina. I know a lot about Nina but not much about Amber."
Dallas officials announced that Pham's dog, Bentley, would be transferred to a special kennel where his urine and feces could be collected for testing during his 21-day quarantine.
“We are hopeful that Bentley’s journey will contribute to what we know about Ebola and dogs, since they play such an important role in so many people's lives," Dr. Cate McManus, of Dallas Animal Services, said in a statement.
A Spanish dog was not so fortunate after its mistress, a nurse's assistant, became infected with Ebola after caring for a patient there. Top government officials announced Sunday that the infected nursing assistant's blood no longer shows traces of Ebola, an indication that she may have beaten the virus, according to the Associated Press.
The CDC says there has been no documented case of a dog -- or a cat, for that matter -- transmitting the virus to humans, or of either animal getting sick. However, a small study indicated that dogs could carry the virus
http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-dallas-ebola-louise-troh-20141019-story.html#page=1