EBOLA BIG DAY FOR DALLAS

steve graham

Veteran Member
Wouldn't it be amazing if Jackson fears having been infected.....or maybe by this point, knows he is infected.
Think ... just think it through ...

Duncan had a long layover in Virginia.

He meets with his North Carolina family members in Virginia.

THEN he goes to Dallas and the rest is history.

The North Carolina family made a big hairy deal out of being seen with Jackson.

If the woman in the picture with Duncan is the same woman who later met with Jackson, then ...

Where is the sister? What is Jackson up to the past few days?


Panic Sex Lady is into footwear because that's all she has left ...
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Think ... just think it through ...

Duncan had a long layover in Virginia.

He meets with his North Carolina family members in Virginia.

THEN he goes to Dallas and the rest is history.

The North Carolina family made a big hairy deal out of being seen with Jackson.

If the woman in the picture with Duncan is the same woman who later met with Jackson, then ...

Where is the sister? What is Jackson up to the past few days?


Panic Sex Lady is into footwear because that's all she has left ...

Helen--

I've been thinking A LOT about that as well.


Also,---has there been ANY word from the step-daughter, Youngor, her husband, or their 4 children.


It bothers me mightily to think that this entire family might have been swept away by this horrific disease---and then even their MEMORY dishonored by a govt. and the CDC who USE them to further their OWN agendas, instead of even giving them the dignity of open HONESTY about what has happened to them. Being swept under the rug is NOT honoring or respecting them, in my view...
 

Songbird7777777

Membership Revoked
I think every member of this board is praying for those that have, and possilby infected. I'm usually very mild and quite.....but your comments offend me for every member of this outstanding forum.........to be honest.....get your head out of your ass..........we have an outstanding membership here.......fantastic at research......you are so out of line and as for me, on my ignore list......for the record.....I've NEVER put a member of this forum on ignore.

Whoa! ANOTHER PERFECT EXAMPLE!
I never said we didn't have and outstanding membership! There are a lot of members here that I have a lot of respect for and many when they post my ears perk up! Yes, some have outstanding research and I follow that, but that is not the case for several others. Ignore me! I don't appreciate being falsely accused of attacking the membership here as a whole!
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
EXACTLY!

So, let's start reporting the truth that we know to be true and don't claim as truth those things we are not sure! To say something may look suspicious is different than saying this or that is true!

And don't take it personal CountryMouse, there are others here that need to be more careful as what and how they are reporting things!

I only take it personal, Songbird, if someone says I'm saying or thinking or feeling something I haven't.


I am NOT sure that they are dead.

YOU can NOT be SURE that they are alive.


ALL ANY OF US HAVE TO GO ON IS SPECULATION, at this point.


But I have to say I think the past track record of the "truthfulness" of the CDC and this administration leans the odds heavily in my viewpoint's favor....
 

steve graham

Veteran Member
Jackson NEVER misses an opportunity to present himself in front of any camera........he's dropped out of the limelight........so unlike him!
 

Be Well

may all be well
I think every member of this board is praying for those that have, and possilby infected. I'm usually very mild and quite.....but your comments offend me for every member of this outstanding forum.........to be honest.....get your head out of your ass..........we have an outstanding membership here.......fantastic at research......you are so out of line and as for me, on my ignore list......for the record.....I've NEVER put a member of this forum on ignore.

You put me on ignore?
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
I've never condemned the family...I believe mine and others is compassionate concern. I have never thought it was right to just drag people off to who knows where and them not be allowed any communication with the press or interviews by phone or skype !~ computer. THAT could be any of us...a group show up at your house say you have been exposed in some way and haul you and your family off and then be unable to communicate with you. Several articles have said they are under armed guard and considering they had to go on CNN to get some food and inform people about the hazardous waste that had not been removed from the apt after a week....it could be they moved them to keep them from talking. I think we all should be concerned about that.


My second thought is let's recap the events as we have been told.

Duncan helped carry a pregnant woman on Sept 15th who supposedly had ebola...the people who helped carry her were reported to have died a short time after that...duncan leaves on 19th

Arrives 20th to Troh's apt....goes to ER first time on 26th but was said to have been feeling bad on 24th

released and then returned on 28th violently ill after having diarrhea, fever etc overnight at least while Troh, the grandchildren and the nephews were all staying and was later said there were three mattresses and Duncan had slept on all of them....Troh calls daughter after rough night and tells her to come get the children...she gets blanket from walmart and brings it to Duncan ....calls 911 takes nephews and her father to ER and brings the blanket with her to ER.

and NONE of these people have had symptoms or gotten ill.....I really don't see how carrying someone with ebola ..transmitted and killed all those who carried the pregnant lady and at least nine people had very intimate interaction in the same apt, same bathroom, same mattresses for many hours and none of them even got it. The girlfriend said she slept on the same sheets for several days afterward.

I think we should BE concerned for their welfare and why they are being silenced....as they obviously are.

????

small correction---per the interview, Troh says she went to work the morning of the 28th and her DAUGHTER Youngor came to stay with Duncan, and it was SHE who called 911. The ambulance took Duncan and Youngor followed ambulance in her own car (not Louise Tron's car---she was at work).

Not sure WHO's car they took the blanket in, or who's car it was that was eventually impounded and covered in plastic by the Hazmat unit--Louise's or Youngor's.
 

Be Well

may all be well
Helen--

I've been thinking A LOT about that as well.


Also,---has there been ANY word from the step-daughter, Youngor, her husband, or their 4 children.


It bothers me mightily to think that this entire family might have been swept away by this horrific disease---and then even their MEMORY dishonored by a govt. and the CDC who USE them to further their OWN agendas, instead of even giving them the dignity of open HONESTY about what has happened to them. Being swept under the rug is NOT honoring or respecting them, in my view...

Not. One. Word. from them. I agree with you 100%.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Jackson NEVER misses an opportunity to present himself in front of any camera........he's dropped out of the limelight........so unlike him!

If you're speaking of Jesse Jackson---I couldn't help but think about that, too, as I watched him bowing to pray with all the FAMILY MEMBERS WHO HAD BEEN EXPOSED TO DUNCAN, right before they took them off under ARMED GUARD into that "undisclosed gated home" for their "quarantine".

hmmmmmm......
 

yellowlabz

Veteran Member
In post #38, there is a picture of Duncan on his cell phone. His free arm is wrapped around the waist of a lady with yellow hair. The face is blurred, but not the shoes. She is wearing white sandals. This woman is not identified. We think the picture is taken inside of an airport, and Duncan is still healthy.

The sister and the mother met with Jesse Jackson.

In post #61, a video shows Jesse Jackson with the mother "and other relatives". A woman appears at 0:13. She has yellow hair. She is of the same general build as the lady in post #38.

The lady with yellow hair appears again more than once. At 1:13, a lady with yellow hair is behind Jackson. She is wearing what look to be the same pair of sandals as the lady in post #38.

If this lady with Jesse Jackson is the sister from North Carolina, the sister who traveled with the mother to meet Jesse Jackson, then it appears she did have contact with Duncan just after he arrived in the United States and before he arrived in Dallas.



Panic Sex Lady thought you might need a fresh reason for Panic Sex ...


Wow! Good watchful eye! It is too late for me to study it -- my mind is exploding from bits and pieces of threads I've read...but I will definitely check it out in the morning. Thanks for alerting us!
 

steve graham

Veteran Member
That's excelllent advice CM......I think we've entered the zone of unknown.......unknown who's on the team here.......I'm grieved to say that at this juncture, we have to guard against unwanted infiltrators.....I just made myself sound nuts! I fear I'm right though. My fear for this forum is that we aren't all on the same team here. [/B]
Hey guys---



we're all on the SAME team here----




take a deep breath & let's all


CALM


down



'k?
 

helen

Panic Sex Lady
If you're speaking of Jesse Jackson---I couldn't help but think about that, too, as I watched him bowing to pray with all the FAMILY MEMBERS WHO HAD BEEN EXPOSED TO DUNCAN, right before they took them off under ARMED GUARD into that "undisclosed gated home" for their "quarantine".

hmmmmmm......

Jackson was not with the Dallas family members. He was with the North Carolina family members.

Jackson did not attend the funeral today. http://www.myrecordjournal.com/news...s-ebola-victim-relatives-recall-a-gentle.html

"Television cameras, mostly local, were lined against one wall, and there was a small arrangement of lilies, roses and carnations with a card from the Rev. Jesse L. Jackson Sr.’s Rainbow/PUSH Coalition on the other.

Jackson dropped everything to travel to Dallas to comfort this family and hold news conferences. But he didn't sign the card.


Panic Sex Lady sadly puts her flannel panties away and readies for a dark, cold winter in the nude ...

 

msswv123

Veteran Member
small correction---per the interview, Troh says she went to work the morning of the 28th and her DAUGHTER Youngor came to stay with Duncan, and it was SHE who called 911. The ambulance took Duncan and Youngor followed ambulance in her own car (not Louise Tron's car---she was at work).

Not sure WHO's car they took the blanket in, or who's car it was that was eventually impounded and covered in plastic by the Hazmat unit--Louise's or Youngor's.


Yes Louise calls daughter to come get kids...louise went to work and daughter came and brought blanket and followed to ER....I remember it saying a few people went with her to the ER. Thanks for clarifying that.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
That's excelllent advice CM......I think we've entered the zone of unknown.......unknown who's on the team here.......I'm grieved to say that at this juncture, we have to guard against unwanted infiltrators.....I just made myself sound nuts! I fear I'm right though. My fear for this forum is that we aren't all on the same team here. [/B]

Steve---let's not think that way.

I've known some people here a LONG time on this forum and I don't hear anything diversive.


I hear FEAR, and worry, and hope that maybe this nightmare really ISN'T real after all, and more FEAR, and people looking around them at their kids and their 'others' and then at the TV saying Duncan's family went home tonight and thinking "well..well...maybe...maybe it isn't so bad after all........maybe we have dodged this bullet...........maybe I can breathe again..."

and for some, they KNOW better, in their hearts, but they NEED this little "breathing space" to rest in or they'll run screaming....


sometimes we just have to give each other..........space...............


pax
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Jackson was not with the Dallas family members. He was with the North Carolina family members.

Jackson did not attend the funeral today. http://www.myrecordjournal.com/news...s-ebola-victim-relatives-recall-a-gentle.html

"Television cameras, mostly local, were lined against one wall, and there was a small arrangement of lilies, roses and carnations with a card from the Rev. Jesse L. Jackson Sr.’s Rainbow/PUSH Coalition on the other.

Jackson dropped everything to travel to Dallas to comfort this family and hold news conferences. But he didn't sign the card.


Panic Sex Lady sadly puts her flannel panties away and readies for a dark, cold winter in the nude ...


sorry I was unclear---yes I meant his NC relatives, not his Dallas ones....
 

jazzy

Advocate Discernment
countrymouse nailed it-----those who recovered got a big press conference, lots of high fives and congrats-----they got to put on a show to prove their superiority over ebola and its not such a big deal and to calm americas fears........

the story is that none of the family are infected and all is well--why not brag about it? why not show the public there is nothing to worry about, hey, america----ebola is not so dangerous--you can live for days with a sick infectious person coughing, puking, with diarrhea all over the place and then live amongst the vomit and germs and filth for several more days and you still wont get it cause its soooo hard to catch-----nothing to worry about!

well, unless you are a nurse wearing gloves, a gown, face mask and goggles treating an ebola patient in a sterile environment for just a few days---THEN you can get it.

all this louise troh stuff----hidden away, no press availability, no interviews or skype, not even a skype visit for the memorial service for duncan the church had---would not everyone at her church WANT to see how healthy and well she is doing.

reports lately said they had phones and tv and internet and sent emails--so she cant do an interview to show they are all well?

now they want to just disappear in the night and have privacy and go somewhere for peace and quiet, no publicity, no press, no nothing.......youd think after the last 21 days they be kinda tired of all the peace and quiet. heck, id at least want to go to church and show myself and express my gratitude.

any news reporter would JUMP thru fire to get that interview, even if its just skype, to show america they are fine to calm people. wouldnt the cdc and judge and mayor want that to calm the peoples fears in dallas?

but they didnt. i think they didnt cause they cant.
 

steve graham

Veteran Member
Love your posts and trust them CM.........have to disagree on this person.
Steve---let's not think that way.

I've known some people here a LONG time on this forum and I don't hear anything diversive.


I hear FEAR, and worry, and hope that maybe this nightmare really ISN'T real after all, and more FEAR, and people looking around them at their kids and their 'others' and then at the TV saying Duncan's family went home tonight and thinking "well..well...maybe...maybe it isn't so bad after all........maybe we have dodged this bullet...........maybe I can breathe again..."

and for some, they KNOW better, in their hearts, but they NEED this little "breathing space" to rest in or they'll run screaming....


sometimes we just have to give each other..........space...............


pax
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
countrymouse nailed it-----those who recovered got a big press conference, lots of high fives and congrats-----they got to put on a show to prove their superiority over ebola and its not such a big deal and to calm americas fears........

the story is that none of the family are infected and all is well--why not brag about it? why not show the public there is nothing to worry about, hey, america----ebola is not so dangerous--you can live for days with a sick infectious person coughing, puking, with diarrhea all over the place and then live amongst the vomit and germs and filth for several more days and you still wont get it cause its soooo hard to catch-----nothing to worry about!

well, unless you are a nurse wearing gloves, a gown, face mask and goggles treating an ebola patient in a sterile environment for just a few days---THEN you can get it.

all this louise troh stuff----hidden away, no press availability, no interviews or skype, not even a skype visit for the memorial service for duncan the church had---would not everyone at her church WANT to see how healthy and well she is doing.

reports lately said they had phones and tv and internet and sent emails--so she cant do an interview to show they are all well?

now they want to just disappear in the night and have privacy and go somewhere for peace and quiet, no publicity, no press, no nothing.......youd think after the last 21 days they be kinda tired of all the peace and quiet. heck, id at least want to go to church and show myself and express my gratitude.

any news reporter would JUMP thru fire to get that interview, even if its just skype, to show america they are fine to calm people. wouldnt the cdc and judge and mayor want that to calm the peoples fears in dallas?

but they didnt. i think they didnt cause they cant.

hear hear



What we have to do NOW is stay vigilant.


If there STILL has been no word, no proof, NO PEEP out of ALL these missing relatives (not just Louise and her two sons and nephew, but her daughter Youngor and her husband and their 4 kids, and Duncan's sister who was in NC and met him at the airport)----then we'll KNOW something is rotten in Denmark.

And we HAVE to keep trying to raise a STINK about it till somebody listens.

although---if it's a "few weeks" from now---time enough for all the SECONDARY and TERTIARY infections from this ever-widening pool to ripen----then it may be a moot point by then WHAT happened to Louise and her family---by then EVERYONE will know....
 

msswv123

Veteran Member
Video's at links

Service to be held for first Ebola patient to die on US soil

By Tina Terry
RALEIGH, N.C. — Family members of Thomas Eric Duncan are preparing to remember him Saturday.

Duncan is the first person to be diagnosed with Ebola in the U.S. A memorial service will be held in his honor at 10 a.m. Saturday at Rowan International Church. Duncan’s sister, mother and nephew attend the church.

Family members remember him as a hard worker who was employed as a FedEx worker before leaving Liberia last month.

"The memorial service is going to be a celebration of Duncan's life remembering him for who he was,” said Samar Ghandour, the church’s pastor.

He will officiate the memorial.

Duncan reportedly traveled to the U.S. for a wedding in September. Within days of his arrival he was diagnosed with Ebola and admitted to a Texas hospital where he died Oct. 8.

“It's been very difficult not just because of Eric's death, but many of the people here have other relatives friends and family who have also been dying in Liberia,” Ghandour said.

Duncan’s nephew Joe Weeks has expressed anger that his uncle died when two missionaries from the United States, also diagnosed with Ebola, survived the virus.

However, Ghandour refused to cast judgment without the facts. He said he’s looking forward and hoping for a solution to the deadly virus.

"I'm just thinking as to what could be done to help remedy the situation.”


http://www.wsoctv.com/news/news/local/nc-health-officials-set-ebola-info-website/nhmFZ/



Memorial service held in Salisbury for first U.S. Ebola victim


Kannapolis held a memorial service for him on Saturday. Duncan was the first man to be diagnosed with Ebola in the United States.

He was also the first man to die from the virus.

He was from Liberia and had been treated in Dallas, Texas. Duncan’s service was held on Saturday at Rowan International Church in Salisbury.

His family told Channel 9 he was a good man.

“I was really looking forward to him coming here and us doing things together like families do,” said Joe Weeks. “Unfortunately that is never going to happen. That’s what hurts me the most.”

Duncan’s death sparked a public health crisis, eventually infecting two of his nurses with the virus.

http://www.wsoctv.com/news/news/local/memorial-service-held-salisbury-first-us-ebola-vic/nhmqZ/


(Pastor says 99 percent of his congregation have ties to Liberia)
 

helen

Panic Sex Lady
We always have a bar fight in here right before everything goes straight to hell.


Panic Sex Lady looks around for a partner in Panic ...
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Video's at links

Service to be held for first Ebola patient to die on US soil

By Tina Terry
RALEIGH, N.C. — Family members of Thomas Eric Duncan are preparing to remember him Saturday.

Duncan is the first person to be diagnosed with Ebola in the U.S. A memorial service will be held in his honor at 10 a.m. Saturday at Rowan International Church. Duncan’s sister, mother and nephew attend the church.

Family members remember him as a hard worker who was employed as a FedEx worker before leaving Liberia last month.

"The memorial service is going to be a celebration of Duncan's life remembering him for who he was,” said Samar Ghandour, the church’s pastor.

He will officiate the memorial.

Duncan reportedly traveled to the U.S. for a wedding in September. Within days of his arrival he was diagnosed with Ebola and admitted to a Texas hospital where he died Oct. 8.

“It's been very difficult not just because of Eric's death, but many of the people here have other relatives friends and family who have also been dying in Liberia,” Ghandour said.

Duncan’s nephew Joe Weeks has expressed anger that his uncle died when two missionaries from the United States, also diagnosed with Ebola, survived the virus.

However, Ghandour refused to cast judgment without the facts. He said he’s looking forward and hoping for a solution to the deadly virus.

"I'm just thinking as to what could be done to help remedy the situation.”


http://www.wsoctv.com/news/news/local/nc-health-officials-set-ebola-info-website/nhmFZ/



Memorial service held in Salisbury for first U.S. Ebola victim


Kannapolis held a memorial service for him on Saturday. Duncan was the first man to be diagnosed with Ebola in the United States.

He was also the first man to die from the virus.

He was from Liberia and had been treated in Dallas, Texas. Duncan’s service was held on Saturday at Rowan International Church in Salisbury.

His family told Channel 9 he was a good man.

“I was really looking forward to him coming here and us doing things together like families do,” said Joe Weeks. “Unfortunately that is never going to happen. That’s what hurts me the most.”

Duncan’s death sparked a public health crisis, eventually infecting two of his nurses with the virus.

http://www.wsoctv.com/news/news/local/memorial-service-held-salisbury-first-us-ebola-vic/nhmqZ/


(Pastor says 99 percent of his congregation have ties to Liberia)


And here is the report of the Service they DID have yesterday:

At Service for Dallas Ebola Victim, Relatives Recall a Gentle, Generous Man

By JONATHAN M. KATZ

OCT. 18, 2014

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Thomas Eric Duncan’s mother, Nowai Gartay, center, at his memorial rites in Salisbury, N.C. Credit Andy McMillan for The New York Times




SALISBURY, N.C. — With hymns and prayers for answers, family and friends gathered at a North Carolina church on Saturday to bid farewell to Thomas Eric Duncan, the first person to die of Ebola in the United States.

Mr. Duncan’s mother sat weeping with other relatives in the front row of the small, red-carpeted sanctuary of the church they attend here, Rowan International Church. About 30 other congregants stood and sang, “I must tell Jesus all of my trials,” and, “We have a God who never fails.”

A slide show of photos of Mr. Duncan in Liberia played in a loop over the dais. In eulogies, relatives remembered him as a giving man who had shown courage throughout his 42 years, even as bullets flew during the Liberian civil war. They emphasized that he had contracted Ebola when he helped carry a sick woman just days before he was to make his long-awaited journey to the United States — though all were insistent that he did not know what disease she was suffering from.


“Let’s not forget how he died. He died helping someone,” said Harry Korkoryah, Mr. Duncan’s half brother. “He answered that call from God.”


Undercurrents of frustration and doubt ran throughout the morning service.

“Where did Ebola come from to destroy people?” sermonized Bishop Arthur F. Kulah of the United Methodist Church in Liberia, one of at least nine members of the clergy from various churches at the service. “To set behind people who were already behind?”

Several relatives implied strongly that they did not believe the hospital’s or officials’ narratives of what had happened to Mr. Duncan during his illness in Dallas, where he arrived in September.

“The day will come when we all have answers for what happened to my brother,” said Josephus Weeks, Mr. Duncan’s nephew, who was the same age as his uncle and raised alongside him.

Mr. Weeks has been sharply critical of the care his uncle received at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital, denouncing the hospital for “ignorance, incompetence and indecency” in an opinion article on Tuesday in The Dallas Morning News and saying the hospital had been indifferent to the suffering of a black man who lacked health insurance. He was more muted after the solemn service here but did not hide his dissatisfaction, saying in an interview that the hospital had still not responded to the family’s questions.

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The Rev. Samar Ghandour, in white, led a prayer for Mr. Duncan in Salisbury, N.C. Credit Andy McMillan for The New York Times

“I’m not accusing anyone of anything, but we want to know what happened,” he said.

Mr. Duncan’s brief time in America touched off widespread alarm, which grew when two nurses from the Dallas hospital tested positive for Ebola in the week after his death on Oct. 8.

A cruise ship carrying another worker from the hospital was met on Saturday by a helicopter carrying supplies for blood testing, prompting cheers from passengers. The worker, a laboratory supervisor who handled Mr. Duncan’s blood samples, is in voluntary isolation on the Carnival Magic ship with her husband. Carnival Cruise Lines said she posed no health risk, but Texas officials wanted her to submit a blood sample for testing before the ship made its scheduled arrival in Galveston on Sunday morning.

At the memorial service for Mr. Duncan, relatives said they had not seen the man they knew as Eric for years, in some cases decades. Consequently, many of the stories shared were about him as a boy and young man, a master of playing soccer with a tennis ball, who would race his motorcycles down streets at top speed. Bishop Kulah, who founded a school for Liberian refugees in neighboring Ivory Coast that Mr. Duncan attended during the 1989-96 Liberian civil war, recalled the young man’s operation of a telephone booth to help displaced people contact their relatives back at home. He said Mr. Duncan had often allowed those who could not afford to pay to use the phone for free.

His half brother recounted Mr. Duncan’s long struggle to obtain a visa to the United States, which he used to visit Louise Troh, the mother of one of his children, and his dreams of someday living in this country for good. “He was going to do four or five jobs,” Mr. Korkoryah said. “He was going to make so much money. But God had other plans.”

As Ebola ravages West Africa, Liberians are losing an integral part of their culture, in which the double-cheek kiss was once the standard greeting.

Mr. Weeks said that he and Mr. Duncan’s mother, Nowai Gartay, had spoken to him by phone for the last time on Oct. 3, five days before his death. They allowed the phone to ring for five minutes before Mr. Duncan finally answered in a faint voice, the sound of an oxygen machine whirring in the background. One of the most emotional moments in the service came when one speaker mentioned that Mr. Duncan had not been able to call and say goodbye to his mother in the last days of his life, and many family members began to sob loudly.

The church where the service was held, Rowan International, is part of a small Baptist movement based in this North Carolina town and has congregants from several West African and Caribbean nations, said the Rev. Samar Ghandour, the church’s Liberian-born pastor, who led Saturday’s proceedings. Mr. Ghandour said the church helped operate 68 ministries in Liberia, several of which have lost parishioners in the Ebola epidemic that has ravaged the country and two neighboring West African nations, Guinea and Sierra Leone. The church’s members have donated about $675 to Ebola relief through Samaritan’s Purse, an organization based in North Carolina and run by the Rev. Franklin Graham, he said.

Bishop Kulah told the congregation in his sermon that Ebola was destroying Liberian culture by scaring people away from shaking hands or embracing their loved ones. The bishop, who said later that he had been in the United States since Aug. 23, asked Americans to forgive any Liberians who had given them cause to worry about the disease. He then made a strong appeal, which he said was on behalf of his country and president, for Americans to resist stigmatizing Liberians as carriers of the disease.

There were few signs at the one-story, brick and vinyl-sided church on Saturday of the intense national scrutiny on Mr. Duncan and his family. Television cameras, mostly local, were lined against one wall, and there was a small arrangement of lilies, roses and carnations with a card from the Rev. Jesse L. Jackson Sr.’s Rainbow/PUSH Coalition on the other. About half of the church’s approximately 80 blue fabric seats were empty.

Still, relatives were guarded after weeks of media hounding, and for the most part asked to be left alone. Mr. Weeks, speaking on the family’s behalf, made it clear that the memorial was their final chance to have a say over the legacy of their father, uncle and son, as a kind, gentle man who had spent his life helping others.

“I would like him to be remembered as that kind of person,” Mr. Weeks said. “Not as the person who brought this disease to America.”

Manny Fernandez contributed reporting from Dallas, and Jack Healy from Houston.


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/19/us/thomas-eric-duncan-ebola-victim-is-mourned-at-service.html?_r=0
 

poppy

Veteran Member
I was watching a video on another board but there was no link to copy. It was a PHD very knowledgeable about Ebola and studied outbreaks in Sudan in person. I thought monkeys were the host animal for Ebola but he said it is fruit bats. They can infect other wild animals commonly used for food in that part of the world and whoever butchers them contracts Ebola from the blood. He said we hear of outbreaks on occasion but it is common for people there to die from it all the time. He also said outbreaks are self limiting in rural areas because the people have learned to not go near people sick with a fever, so the outbreak dead ends with very few cases, often only one. He also said it is not uncommon for others living with an infected person to not catch it. It seems to require contact with infected blood or other fluids. He also said we now have more cases in this outbreak than the total from all other previous outbreaks combined because this one involves urban areas. He said the number of those infected generally rises due to healthcare workers becoming infected and spreading it. That's certainly what we've seen so far.
 

Bubble Head

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Why start counting from the first trip to the hospital? Isn't it possible to not catch it immediately, and then contract it later if contact with the ebola positive patient continues?

Shouldn't the 21 days start from the last contact with the infected person?

Yes it is possible to catch it much sooner and when the person is asymptomatic. Usual guidelines are 42 days after last exposure. However people have caught it up to 90 days after last exposure. I just started the thread using the lying CDCs current guidelines and it seems like they have done exactly what I thought they would do. I also stated in the original Obola thread that the family needed to be moved out of the apartment of vomit and bloody stool after several days sitting there. I think that is a least a semblance of Christian sprit. I knew full well the CDC would have to cover their butts and I don't believe anything from the mouth of some phony politician, race baiter, or bureaucrat. I want to see the people and I want to see them alive. I unfortunately do not believe that is the case hence the start of the thread. By proper medical guidelines they should still be in quarantine until at least 42 days from last exposure. CDC played their hand like the cheap ignorant chumps they are.

Bubble Head will continue to wear his full Mark V diving suit and brass helmet with filtered air until I see them or hear something that comes close to truth. Sorry Helen.
 

The Traveler

Veteran Member
Im going to take the contrarian view for a minute. IF it was my fiancé who died from ebola and I was along with my family put in quarantine away from the public eye for 21 days. I WOULD NOT want to be in the public's eye once the quarantine was lifted no matter how much the CDC or the media or people on a forum wanted to see me. Everyone could just pound sand. That family did not ask for the notoriety, nor did they do anything to be placed in the spot light except for being directly involved with Duncan.

Its like a lady said at a safety meeting I recently attended. Her husband had lost his right arm in an industrial accident. She said and I quote " I never asked for this, I didn't do anything wrong to be placed in a position to deal with this pain and suffering." Neither did this woman.

We don't know what she has dealt with and we don't know how many death threats she has received. She will surface soon enough and when she does well maybe things aren't as bad as we expected.
 

helen

Panic Sex Lady
Bubble Head will continue to wear his full Mark V diving suit and brass helmet with filtered air until I see them or hear something that comes close to truth. Sorry Helen.

No harm done, dear.

(Panic Sex Lady crosses another name off of her Panic Partner List and moves on ...)
 

yellowlabz

Veteran Member



WHERE IS JACKSON?

I'm not saying I believe this, but according to his Facebook page, he was in South Africa yesterday?? www.facebook.com/revjessejackson


Reverend Jesse Jackson Sr.

Yesterday
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#StopTheViolence #SaveTheChildren Thank you for joining us today during the Saturday Morning Forum. Today I am In South Africa where I was honored to receive the Satma Award. I will be calling in to the Saturday Morning Forum from South Africa today. I am thankful to everyone from all around the world for your encouragement and prayers. Let us bring love, hope, healing and peace to this world. Love you guys. Keep Hope Alive.
 
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The Traveler

Veteran Member
Im going to take the contrarian view for a minute. IF it was my fiancé who died from ebola and I was along with my family put in quarantine away from the public eye for 21 days. I WOULD NOT want to be in the public's eye once the quarantine was lifted no matter how much the CDC or the media or people on a forum wanted to see me. Everyone could just pound sand. That family did not ask for the notoriety, nor did they do anything to be placed in the spot light except for being directly involved with Duncan.

Its like a lady said at a safety meeting I recently attended. Her husband had lost his right arm in an industrial accident. She said and I quote " I never asked for this, I didn't do anything wrong to be placed in a position to deal with this pain and suffering." Neither did this woman.

We don't know what she has dealt with and we don't know how many death threats she has received. She will surface soon enough and when she does well maybe things aren't as bad as we expected.
 

helen

Panic Sex Lady
Im going to take the contrarian view for a minute. IF it was my fiancé who died from ebola and I was along with my family put in quarantine away from the public eye for 21 days. I WOULD NOT want to be in the public's eye once the quarantine was lifted no matter how much the CDC or the media or people on a forum wanted to see me. Everyone could just pound sand. That family did not ask for the notoriety, nor did they do anything to be placed in the spot light except for being directly involved with Duncan.

Its like a lady said at a safety meeting I recently attended. Her husband had lost his right arm in an industrial accident. She said and I quote " I never asked for this, I didn't do anything wrong to be placed in a position to deal with this pain and suffering." Neither did this woman.

We don't know what she has dealt with and we don't know how many death threats she has received. She will surface soon enough and when she does well maybe things aren't as bad as we expected.

There is just one little thing wrong with this line of reasoning. Louise Troh and Youngor Jallah are conscientious, God-fearing, really nice people. If they thought they could allay fear by making a brief appearance, they would do it.

 

wait-n-see

Veteran Member
Im going to take the contrarian view for a minute. IF it was my fiancé who died from ebola and I was along with my family put in quarantine away from the public eye for 21 days. I WOULD NOT want to be in the public's eye once the quarantine was lifted no matter how much the CDC or the media or people on a forum wanted to see me. Everyone could just pound sand. That family did not ask for the notoriety, nor did they do anything to be placed in the spot light except for being directly involved with Duncan.

Its like a lady said at a safety meeting I recently attended. Her husband had lost his right arm in an industrial accident. She said and I quote " I never asked for this, I didn't do anything wrong to be placed in a position to deal with this pain and suffering." Neither did this woman.

We don't know what she has dealt with and we don't know how many death threats she has received. She will surface soon enough and when she does well maybe things aren't as bad as we expected.

This is an excellent, logical and well thought out post.

I agree 100% with what you are saying, and I live only 15 miles from ground zero. ;)
 

nchomemaker

Veteran Member
What a small world! And if I wasn't such a recluse, I would have known about this service being held here. Now I know. Thanks for posting it Countrymouse.

This part does not make me feel all warm and fuzzy. " The church where the service was held, Rowan International, is part of a small Baptist movement based in this North Carolina town and has congregants from several West African and Caribbean nations, said the Rev. Samar Ghandour, the church’s Liberian-born pastor, who led Saturday’s proceedings. Mr. Ghandour said the church helped operate 68 ministries in Liberia, several of which have lost parishioners in the Ebola epidemic that has ravaged the country and two neighboring West African nations, Guinea and Sierra Leone. The church’s members have donated about $675 to Ebola relief through Samaritan’s Purse, an organization based in North Carolina and run by the Rev. Franklin Graham, he said."
I'm wondering how many West Africans flew into the country for this service that was held a hop skip and jump from me.


Video's at links

Service to be held for first Ebola patient to die on US soil

By Tina Terry
RALEIGH, N.C. — Family members of Thomas Eric Duncan are preparing to remember him Saturday.

Duncan is the first person to be diagnosed with Ebola in the U.S. A memorial service will be held in his honor at 10 a.m. Saturday at Rowan International Church. Duncan’s sister, mother and nephew attend the church.

Family members remember him as a hard worker who was employed as a FedEx worker before leaving Liberia last month.

"The memorial service is going to be a celebration of Duncan's life remembering him for who he was,” said Samar Ghandour, the church’s pastor.

He will officiate the memorial.

Duncan reportedly traveled to the U.S. for a wedding in September. Within days of his arrival he was diagnosed with Ebola and admitted to a Texas hospital where he died Oct. 8.

“It's been very difficult not just because of Eric's death, but many of the people here have other relatives friends and family who have also been dying in Liberia,” Ghandour said.

Duncan’s nephew Joe Weeks has expressed anger that his uncle died when two missionaries from the United States, also diagnosed with Ebola, survived the virus.

However, Ghandour refused to cast judgment without the facts. He said he’s looking forward and hoping for a solution to the deadly virus.

"I'm just thinking as to what could be done to help remedy the situation.”


http://www.wsoctv.com/news/news/local/nc-health-officials-set-ebola-info-website/nhmFZ/



Memorial service held in Salisbury for first U.S. Ebola victim


Kannapolis held a memorial service for him on Saturday. Duncan was the first man to be diagnosed with Ebola in the United States.

He was also the first man to die from the virus.

He was from Liberia and had been treated in Dallas, Texas. Duncan’s service was held on Saturday at Rowan International Church in Salisbury.

His family told Channel 9 he was a good man.

“I was really looking forward to him coming here and us doing things together like families do,” said Joe Weeks. “Unfortunately that is never going to happen. That’s what hurts me the most.”

Duncan’s death sparked a public health crisis, eventually infecting two of his nurses with the virus.

http://www.wsoctv.com/news/news/local/memorial-service-held-salisbury-first-us-ebola-vic/nhmqZ/


(Pastor says 99 percent of his congregation have ties to Liberia)
 
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Frugal Bob

Veteran Member
Think ... just think it through ...

Duncan had a long layover in Virginia.

He meets with his North Carolina family members in Virginia.

THEN he goes to Dallas and the rest is history.

The North Carolina family made a big hairy deal out of being seen with Jackson.

If the woman in the picture with Duncan is the same woman who later met with Jackson, then ...

Where is the sister? What is Jackson up to the past few days?


Panic Sex Lady is into footwear because that's all she has left ...

No your not Helen found these hanging in the BS, I knew they had to be yours...:lol:

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xtreme_right

Veteran Member
I wish I could find the link to the article, but everyone here knows the massive amounts of info makes it hard to find again. It seems like there's a misunderstanding. Some people seem to think the family was already released from quarantine and there was no coverage of it. It was stated in the news that the quarantine is over at midnight tonight. That's still another hour away for central time zone.

Also, it was stated in the news that the family is staying in the house a few extra days because the people helping them find a new home are having problems finding someone willing to rent to the Ebola people.
 

Be Well

may all be well
I wish I could find the link to the article, but everyone here knows the massive amounts of info makes it hard to find again. It seems like there's a misunderstanding. Some people seem to think the family was already released from quarantine and there was no coverage of it. It was stated in the news that the quarantine is over at midnight tonight. That's still another hour away for central time zone.

Also, it was stated in the news that the family is staying in the house a few extra days because the people helping them find a new home are having problems finding someone willing to rent to the Ebola people.

Yes, I do remember reading that. Odd they can't find anyone to rent, as they found someone to let them use a house for free!
 
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