And then they wept
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fruit loop
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People have indeed heard me attack President Bush. But at no time did I ever call all of you commies, traitors, rats, dirty, stupid, etc.
Obama has served as a community organizer and a senator. He has more experience than Bush did. What's the difference? Sarah Palin served as mayor of a small town and is in mid-term as governor. What's the difference?
Obama has served as a community organizer and a senator. He has more experience than Bush did. What's the difference? Sarah Palin served as mayor of a small town and is in mid-term as governor. What's the difference?
SouthernGal
"Don't retreat...reload"
OH, MY GOD! You think your Messiah is more qualified to be POTUS because he was a community organizer than boosh was as a two term Governor? Are you serious?
And yes - you called me a "farking troll" on more than one occasion.
fruit loop
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Not during the election, SG. It's been mutual between us from time to time. I thought we buried that months ago. At least I hoped so, because I admire and respect you tremendously as a person.
Bush didn't serve two terms as governor. He served one term and a partial. He had no prior experience prior to this. I should know because I worked for the guy during part of that time in Texas. I moved to Carolina in 1997.
I do not think Barack Obama is a Messiah any more than Sarah Palin is an Esther. That's ridiculous. What I do hope is that he can find a way to fix the economic woes, clean up this disaster of a foreign policy, get our troops out of Iraq and back to pursuing Osama Bin Laden, and get rid of the abuses of our Constitution that have taken place in the last eight years.
Bush didn't serve two terms as governor. He served one term and a partial. He had no prior experience prior to this. I should know because I worked for the guy during part of that time in Texas. I moved to Carolina in 1997.
I do not think Barack Obama is a Messiah any more than Sarah Palin is an Esther. That's ridiculous. What I do hope is that he can find a way to fix the economic woes, clean up this disaster of a foreign policy, get our troops out of Iraq and back to pursuing Osama Bin Laden, and get rid of the abuses of our Constitution that have taken place in the last eight years.
kozanne
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http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?t=309730
http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?p=2932933#post2932933
http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?p=2913272#post2913272
http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?p=2900557#post2900557
http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?p=2770427#post2770427
http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?p=2759419#post2759419
kozanne
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Stop it SG! You are making me want to take FL off ignore! UNBELIEVABLE!
SouthernGal
"Don't retreat...reload"
I cannot get over your hypocrisy. You have derided conservative Christians and anti-abortionists, and conservatives in general, over and over and over. Now that your messiah has been elected you want everyone to kumbaya together and "work to heal the country". MY COUNTRY cannot be healed by an illegal alien, muslim marxist. And I will NOT capitulate to him or any of his disciples. Ever.
kozanne
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Amen. Way too little, way too late.
fruit loop
Inactive
I never said anyone needed to "get behind 'our' president" or that anyone had to like Obama because he IS now the president. (Which is more than I can say for 8 years ago)
What I AM proposing is that all the citizens stop dividing themselves against each other on the basis of votes. Politics is no reason to hate your neighbors. Dear God - there was a case last week of a woman questioning trick-or-treaters about their parents' political affiliations and refusing to give the children candy if their answer was not to her liking. What if that attack on the McCain worker had been real? Both are taking politics too far.
What I AM proposing is that all the citizens stop dividing themselves against each other on the basis of votes. Politics is no reason to hate your neighbors. Dear God - there was a case last week of a woman questioning trick-or-treaters about their parents' political affiliations and refusing to give the children candy if their answer was not to her liking. What if that attack on the McCain worker had been real? Both are taking politics too far.
kozanne
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That was the day I realized "Liberty and Justice for those who could afford it"
Kinda like the 2.4 billion dollars spent on this campaign.
"How to Buy the Presidency" by George Soros.
Dex
Constitutional Patriot
Two words. Party Politics. Then, a lack of true American patriots who are willing to go beyond that into a policy of true American liberty. Truely Orwellian, a country of brainwashed masses, a nation of ideological idiots without a concept of the brutal realities of control and manipulation. A nation who has forgotten history, who has lost touch with their true identity and gone the way of complacency, apathy, ignorance and what will soon become oblivion. We the people will be lead as lambs to the slaughter unless we rise and stand for our Republic.
Man. I was off watching Mike Rowe bite the testicles off lambs (for real, I was) and somebody said something nice about me. Thankya, I'm blushing over here.
kozanne
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Wow kozanne,
I've been here since Y2K and that's all you could find?
I must be doing pretty good.
You're not as bad as some, believe you me. Nobody on this board is perfect.
ETA: It only showed 500 posts, though, and you have a lot more than that.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/05/atlanta.reacts.obama.win/index.html
Atlantans thank Obama: 'We can become something great'
ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- The Rev. Martin Luther King is looking down on the United States, smiling, Otis Sutton said Wednesday.
Otis Sutton, 78, recalls how times have changed since he grew up in the segregated South.
"That's what he wanted. He'd been preaching that all along," Sutton, 78, said of the nation electing its first African-American president.
Sutton, who has worked on and off at the historic Busy Bee Cafe in Atlanta, Georgia, since it opened in 1947, was baptized by the civil rights icon's father, King Sr. He remembers playing pick-up football games in a dirt lot with King Jr. when they were both youngsters in Atlanta.
Asked if King Jr. was any good at football, Sutton chuckled.
"He liked to read and study," he said with a reverence that prohibited him from disparaging King Jr. in any way, "but he loved the game."
Walk around Atlanta and you'll find plenty of African-Americans who hope Sen. Barack Obama will inspire young people to reach for a book rather than a football.
"As young, black Americans our society and our communities had told us that the only way we could make it out is if we entertain," said Cortez Tarver, 28, who cuts hair at the University Barber Shop, just down the street from the historically black Morehouse College and Clark Atlanta University.
"They want us to be funny. They want us to cook their food, entertain them and play their sports -- and we do all that, we're just going to fit in."
The media reinforce the erroneous notion that successful black men exist only in the realms of hip hop, football and basketball, Tarver said.
The result is that fewer and fewer African-American children aspire to occupations like doctor and lawyer, he said.
All that changed after Obama locked up the Electoral College vote on Tuesday night.
"Now, they can say they want to be president," Tarver said of young blacks. "This shows us, hey, if we go to college, we study hard, we help out our communities, we can become president, we can become something great -- other than shucking and jiving, other than putting on a show."
Sutton likens Obama's rise through the political ranks to Tiger Woods' rise through professional golf. Until about 12 years ago, when Woods turned pro, it was rare to find black youngsters swinging club at their local links. Even if they had the natural skill, they did not believe the game belonged to them, he said.
"You never seen black children playing golf till [Woods] started playing," said Sutton, explaining that even his 7-year-old grandson, Josh, now enjoys playing golf.
What Woods did for golf, Sutton said, Obama has done for politics. Children across the nation were told Tuesday night that they, too, can aspire to the highest office in the land.
"If he can do it, they believe they can do it," Sutton said.
Back at University Barbershop, Tarver's colleague, Spot Jackson, 28, said the only thing keeping him awake was some Burger King coffee and a few doughnuts after staying up until 6 a.m. watching election news.
Like Tarver and Sutton, Jackson said he believes Obama shattered the ceiling for black men and women. He joked that Obama's victory made him want to start a foundation. Its mission would be simple, he said.
"We're going to eradicate the word 'can't.' We're going to try to get it out of every dictionary known to man," he said.
"There's nothing you can honestly say you can't do anymore; it just changes your perception as far as what you think is possible in this country."
Jackson dismissed a question about whether the change was made possible by Obama's skin color, saying it was more about the man's character and platform.
"He could've been green and if the message was the same and it resonated the same way it did, then he still would've gotten the same support," he said.
Jackson said he saw television footage of people in Indonesia celebrating the U.S. presidential election, something he's never seen in the 10 years he's been voting.
Morgan Blanchard, 20, a junior at Clark Atlanta, said she also was impressed to see international footage from Italy and Australia of people celebrating the election. It shows Obama has broad appeal, which speaks more to his honesty and principles than to his skin color, she said.
"Oh gosh, it's not even that he's African-American," she said, noting with a sly smile that Obama's mother was white. "It's the way he carries himself, the way he puts himself out there. I don't think race has anything to do with it."
Her sentiments were echoed by fellow Clark Atlanta student Ashante Smith, 18. A sophomore studying music, Smith said many African-Americans voted for Obama because of his race, but she pointed out that he also snared millions of votes in white and Latino communities.
"I think he was just really committed to all communities," she said.
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And while she thinks Obama can help improve education, unemployment and the economy in general, she concurs with many who say he can hearten generations of African-Americans to reach higher in life.
"It just inspires me to go for what I want," she said. "It's like we can do anything."
Atlantans thank Obama: 'We can become something great'
ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- The Rev. Martin Luther King is looking down on the United States, smiling, Otis Sutton said Wednesday.
Otis Sutton, 78, recalls how times have changed since he grew up in the segregated South.
"That's what he wanted. He'd been preaching that all along," Sutton, 78, said of the nation electing its first African-American president.
Sutton, who has worked on and off at the historic Busy Bee Cafe in Atlanta, Georgia, since it opened in 1947, was baptized by the civil rights icon's father, King Sr. He remembers playing pick-up football games in a dirt lot with King Jr. when they were both youngsters in Atlanta.
Asked if King Jr. was any good at football, Sutton chuckled.
"He liked to read and study," he said with a reverence that prohibited him from disparaging King Jr. in any way, "but he loved the game."
Walk around Atlanta and you'll find plenty of African-Americans who hope Sen. Barack Obama will inspire young people to reach for a book rather than a football.
"As young, black Americans our society and our communities had told us that the only way we could make it out is if we entertain," said Cortez Tarver, 28, who cuts hair at the University Barber Shop, just down the street from the historically black Morehouse College and Clark Atlanta University.
"They want us to be funny. They want us to cook their food, entertain them and play their sports -- and we do all that, we're just going to fit in."
The media reinforce the erroneous notion that successful black men exist only in the realms of hip hop, football and basketball, Tarver said.
The result is that fewer and fewer African-American children aspire to occupations like doctor and lawyer, he said.
All that changed after Obama locked up the Electoral College vote on Tuesday night.
"Now, they can say they want to be president," Tarver said of young blacks. "This shows us, hey, if we go to college, we study hard, we help out our communities, we can become president, we can become something great -- other than shucking and jiving, other than putting on a show."
Sutton likens Obama's rise through the political ranks to Tiger Woods' rise through professional golf. Until about 12 years ago, when Woods turned pro, it was rare to find black youngsters swinging club at their local links. Even if they had the natural skill, they did not believe the game belonged to them, he said.
"You never seen black children playing golf till [Woods] started playing," said Sutton, explaining that even his 7-year-old grandson, Josh, now enjoys playing golf.
What Woods did for golf, Sutton said, Obama has done for politics. Children across the nation were told Tuesday night that they, too, can aspire to the highest office in the land.
"If he can do it, they believe they can do it," Sutton said.
Back at University Barbershop, Tarver's colleague, Spot Jackson, 28, said the only thing keeping him awake was some Burger King coffee and a few doughnuts after staying up until 6 a.m. watching election news.
Like Tarver and Sutton, Jackson said he believes Obama shattered the ceiling for black men and women. He joked that Obama's victory made him want to start a foundation. Its mission would be simple, he said.
"We're going to eradicate the word 'can't.' We're going to try to get it out of every dictionary known to man," he said.
"There's nothing you can honestly say you can't do anymore; it just changes your perception as far as what you think is possible in this country."
Jackson dismissed a question about whether the change was made possible by Obama's skin color, saying it was more about the man's character and platform.
"He could've been green and if the message was the same and it resonated the same way it did, then he still would've gotten the same support," he said.
Jackson said he saw television footage of people in Indonesia celebrating the U.S. presidential election, something he's never seen in the 10 years he's been voting.
Morgan Blanchard, 20, a junior at Clark Atlanta, said she also was impressed to see international footage from Italy and Australia of people celebrating the election. It shows Obama has broad appeal, which speaks more to his honesty and principles than to his skin color, she said.
"Oh gosh, it's not even that he's African-American," she said, noting with a sly smile that Obama's mother was white. "It's the way he carries himself, the way he puts himself out there. I don't think race has anything to do with it."
Her sentiments were echoed by fellow Clark Atlanta student Ashante Smith, 18. A sophomore studying music, Smith said many African-Americans voted for Obama because of his race, but she pointed out that he also snared millions of votes in white and Latino communities.
"I think he was just really committed to all communities," she said.
advertisement
And while she thinks Obama can help improve education, unemployment and the economy in general, she concurs with many who say he can hearten generations of African-Americans to reach higher in life.
"It just inspires me to go for what I want," she said. "It's like we can do anything."
Warren Bone
Membership Revoked
kozanne
Inactive
Whatever.
You're wrong.
You've heard the term 'sour grapes'.
fruit loop
Inactive
Yeah, we now have a new color in this country....purple-skinned.
