And then they wept

Fred

Middle of the road
http://blow.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/04/people-wept/

And Then They Wept

History will record this as the night the souls of black folk, living and dead, wept – and laughed, screamed and danced – releasing 400 years of pent up emotion.

They were the souls of those whose bodies littered the bottom of the Atlantic, whose families were torn asunder, whose names were erased.

They were those who knew the terror of being set upon by men with clubs, of being trapped in a torched house, of dangling at the end of a rough rope.

They were the souls of those who knew the humiliation of another person’s spit trailing down their faces, of being treated like children well into their twilight years, of being derided and despised for the beauty God gave them.

They were also the tears of those for whom “Yes We Can, ” Obama’s campaign slogan, took on a broader, more profound meaning.

“Yes We Can” escape the prison of lowered expectations and the cycles of poor choices. “Yes We Can” rise above history and beyond hatred. “Yes We Can” ascend to Martin Luther King’s mountain top and see the promised land where dreams are fulfilled, where the best man wins and where justice prevails.

During this election African-Americans, their hearts weary from disappointment, dared to hope and dream again. Tonight their dream has been realized.

Whether or not you agree with Barack Obama’s politics, there is no denying that his election represents a seminal moment in the African-American narrative and a giant leap forward on the road to America’s racial reconciliation.

In fact everyone, regardless of race, should feel free to shed a tear and be proud of how far our country has come.

Feel free to share your thoughts.


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Note from Fred: Jonathon Blanks, author of the piece below, is a libertarian, not a Democrat or Republican.

http://blanksslate.blogspot.com/2008/11/president-elect-barack-obama.html

President-Elect Barack Obama

I have no illusions about an Obama presidency. I dislike the bulk of his policies. I cringe at the thought of a united Democrat-controlled government. I think the already impossible expectations of any president have been amplified for him and he is thus almost guaranteed to fail--perhaps miserably. I will be unrelenting in my criticism of his administration and its allies in Congress when they attempt to go beyond their constitutional bounds--and they almost certainly will.

All that said, when he approached the podium last night to give his victory speech, I wept.

I wept because I've heard countless blatantly racist diatribes, jokes, comments, and sub-human comparisons over the course of my life. I wept because of the pain my older family members endured and all the struggles they faced that I can't even fathom. I wept because, on several occasions, I've been told I can't date someone because her parents wouldn't approve of my race; that in spite of my intelligence, my responsibility, my diction, my future prospects, my talents and my everything else that makes me a good person--and even the fact that I look white--I'm different. It didn't matter whether the parents were liberal or conservative; or whether they were college educated or not: being black made me not good enough.

I wept because the America I just described--even my home state of Indiana which hasn't gone for a Democrat since Lyndon Johnson--voted for a black man to be President of the United States. And, nationally, it wasn't even close.

I could not be prouder of Barack Obama. And I am so very proud of my country.
 

Kronos

Veteran Member
Seriously!

You don't even need to be born here, to become CIC, how cool is that! :)

Arnie for Prez 2012!!!

Hey, he's so buff in those Conan flics,
he's just GOTTA be good at... well, what ever it takes to be CIC, anymore :P

/sarcasm (I am NOT a happy puppy)

P.S.: Fred, I still love ya ;)
 

BUBBAHOTEPT

Veteran Member
I hope in 20 years that we could look back at BOs 8 years in office and say that he helped solve the great problems of our time........
 

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
_______________
Yeah, great for them. Now they can form a utopian society like the ones in African. Liberia comes to mind.
 

kozanne

Inactive
I hope in 20 years that we could look back at BOs 8 years in office and say that he helped solve the great problems of our time........

I'm not. America is no longer a republic. She will be sold like a harlot in the streets. And your president will be her pimp.
 

Digital Omnivore

Veteran Member
It was fun to watch Roland Martin, one of CNN's reporters during this election cycle.

You see, Roland would basically defend Obama at every point, calling his detractors every name in the book, including racists.

Then when Obama won, Roland broke down and cried on air.

The Journalistic Integrity of CNN was on display for all to see.
 

kozanne

Inactive
It was fun to watch Roland Martin, one of CNN's reporters during this election cycle.

You see, Roland would basically defend Obama at every point, calling his detractors every name in the book, including racists.

Then when Obama won, Roland broke down and cried on air.

The Journalistic Integrity of CNN was on display for all to see.

Yup, it sure was. Journalism is dead. It's all newspeak now.
 

Laurane

Canadian Loonie
And it still goes on.....

"whose families were torn asunder, whose names were erased.

They were those who knew the terror of being set upon by men with clubs, of being trapped in a torched house, of dangling at the end of a rough rope"


on the continent of Africa to this day.......burnings, hackings, bombings, gunning.......on the N. American continent, those black people who are not grateful that their families came from that other place, just don't realise how fortunate they are to have opportunities like they do.
 
"whose families were torn asunder, whose names were erased.

They were those who knew the terror of being set upon by men with clubs, of being trapped in a torched house, of dangling at the end of a rough rope"


on the continent of Africa to this day.......burnings, hackings, bombings, gunning.......on the N. American continent, those black people who are not grateful that their families came from that other place, just don't realise how fortunate they are to have opportunities like they do.

You so have that correct! Rape and pillage, then stoning, then the gutting. Nice! They need to go there on vacation and take in the sights. It would blow their ever loving mind, but it would ruin this moment for them.
 

mbo

Membership Revoked
The writer of such nonsense is an idiot.

For Obama and the majority of blacks, there will be no "racial reconciliation" until the wallets have been busted wide open. They would have been just as happy with Dennis Kucinich or some other such socialist enabler as President.

The fact that Obama is half negro is only icing on the cake.


:kk1:
 

Fred

Middle of the road
The writer of such nonsense is an idiot.
Here's another idiot for you to mock:

http://www.wztv.com/template/inews_wire/wires.national/395a07f2-www.fox17.com.shtml

Emotional Rice says she's 'especially proud' of Obama victory

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Among the African-Americans who've been getting emotional over the victory of Barack Obama is Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

Her eyes glistened as she described Obama's victory as an "extraordinary step forward" for the nation.

She told reporters at the State Department today that it's proof of America's promise. Rice says "Americans across the political spectrum" can be proud of the election of Obama. And she said that as an African-American, she's "especially proud."

Rice was born and raised in Alabama at the height of the civil rights struggle.

She says the nation has "been through a long journey" toward making race less of a factor in life. And she says, "that work is not done."
 

SarahLynn

Veteran Member
The people cheering Obama's victory merely because he is a "man of colour" (as we like to say here in Canada) are extremely short-sighted if that was indeed their only reason for cheering him on. I know several like that-our daughter's soccer coach is glad Obama won merely because he is black. The man has absolutely NO CLUE what Obama's policies are, just knows he's black.
Well, when people begin to see what his policies are I think the euphoria making them feel so progressive and that being for Obama proves their lack of bigotry which has been surrounding the colour issue will sour for them real fast.
 

Ender

Inactive
If you want a pretty decent POV of what it is to be black in America, I would suggest reading Sammy Davis JR's autobiography, "Yes, I Can."

Sammy went through hell- especially when he married a white woman, but he stated flatly that if a black man wanted to pull himself up and become something, America was the place to do it. He was an optimist and loved the US- even through all of his trials.
 

kozanne

Inactive
If you want a pretty decent POV of what it is to be black in America, I would suggest reading Sammy Davis JR's autobiography, "Yes, I Can."

Sammy went through hell- especially when he married a white woman, but he stated flatly that if a black man wanted to pull himself up and become something, America was the place to do it. He was an optimist and loved the US- even through all of his trials.

I dated a black man in the 1960's.....wanna tell me about hell??????
 

mbo

Membership Revoked
Here's another idiot for you to mock:

http://www.wztv.com/template/inews_wire/wires.national/395a07f2-www.fox17.com.shtml

Emotional Rice says she's 'especially proud' of Obama victory

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Among the African-Americans who've been getting emotional over the victory of Barack Obama is Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

Her eyes glistened as she described Obama's victory as an "extraordinary step forward" for the nation.

She told reporters at the State Department today that it's proof of America's promise. Rice says "Americans across the political spectrum" can be proud of the election of Obama. And she said that as an African-American, she's "especially proud."

Rice was born and raised in Alabama at the height of the civil rights struggle.

She says the nation has "been through a long journey" toward making race less of a factor in life. And she says, "that work is not done."

what I wrote still applies, whether Condoleeza is proud of Obama is irrelevant to my point

:dot5:
 

Ender

Inactive
kozanne:

I dated a black man in the 1960's.....wanna tell me about hell??????

Understand.

My great great-grandmother, on one side, was mulatto & my great-grandmother, one the other, was full-bloodied Cherokee.

I lucked out because I look pretty much like my avatar.
 

topcat46

Inactive
She says the nation has "been through a long journey" toward making race less of a factor in life. And she says, "that work is not done."

So tell us Condi, what will America look like and be like when that "work" is finally done?
 

fruit loop

Inactive
That was another great thing about this election: people did not vote for Obama just because he is of mixed race. They voted for him because he is qualified.

Sure it matters that he is of partial African descent. Many of us are old enough to remember the Civil Rights era, when black presidential NOMINEE would have been unheard of. Those of us who do can indeed celebrate this day, because it's been a long time coming.

The fact that people of all races chose Barack Obama is of even more significance. Perhaps we are, at last, moving towards a truly color-blind society, where people are judged on their character and abilities rather than their skin color.
 

knepper

Veteran Member
His typically white grandmother was unthoughtful enough to die just at the moment of his greatest triumph. How could she be so ungrateful, to rain on the messiah's parade!
 
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Amaryllis

Inactive
I hope in 20 years that we could look back at BOs 8 years in office and say that he helped solve the great problems of our time........

8 years? Yeah I guess I see your point now that I think about it. IF he does a good job of helping and solving problems, he'll be reelected a second term. If he settles the racial divide that's constantly split this country for so long, I'll support him that second time. Rush Limbaugh is totally convinced that Obama will purposely make racial tensions worse in order to hold on to the race card issue. We'll see.
 

Amaryllis

Inactive
That was another great thing about this election: people did not vote for Obama just because he is of mixed race. They voted for him because he is qualified.

I completely disagree. I think they voted for him because he is completely UNqualified. They simply wanted radical change. Wanted something totally new and different in Washington DC.
 

ZionForever

Membership Revoked
That's an interesting thing to say for someone who calls themselves "ZionForever".


Zion, as in Israel, as in one of my countries( i hold dual citizenship).

I look at people who are biggoted/racist/sterotypical of black people just the same as I look at the Nazi bastards who tried to destroy my people.
 
They wept and he is just a 50/50 half-cracker. Are they crying about the white part or the black part?

:lkick:

From what I have read, Obama is 50% white, ~45% arab, and ~5% black -- anybody have a definitive source on this?

Presuming above to be TRUE, the black community celebrates -- why? Because Obama LOOKS black, therefore is embraced as a bona-fide black man, despite the likelihood that his dark-featured appearance is derived primarily from an arab genetic source?


intothegoodnight
 

thompson

Certa Bonum Certamen
That was another great thing about this election: people did not vote for Obama just because he is of mixed race. They voted for him because he is qualified.

Sure it matters that he is of partial African descent. Many of us are old enough to remember the Civil Rights era, when black presidential NOMINEE would have been unheard of. Those of us who do can indeed celebrate this day, because it's been a long time coming.

The fact that people of all races chose Barack Obama is of even more significance. Perhaps we are, at last, moving towards a truly color-blind society, where people are judged on their character and abilities rather than their skin color.

That's some mighty strong stuff you're smokin'.
 

SouthernGal

"Don't retreat...reload"
That was another great thing about this election: people did not vote for Obama just because he is of mixed race. They voted for him because he is qualified.

Please, explain to us, in detail, exactly how he is qualified.

I'll be waiting.
 

BUBBAHOTEPT

Veteran Member
kozanne, you miss my point; I don't blame though. I did not vote for him; I wanted Alan Keyes...... I hope we are wrong about how he will act. He has a chance, a narrow chance, to actually do the smart thing and focus on what is wrong about this country ( albeit not everything ). I do not know this man, so I reckon I'll give him trust but verify opportunity....... God knows I have been so wrong for so long...........And by the way, I see HOPE: it is running toward the horizon with it's ass on fire........

That about sums it up for me.......:rdog:
 

Richard

TB Fanatic
http://blow.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/04/people-wept/

And Then They Wept

History will record this as the night the souls of black folk, living and dead, wept – and laughed, screamed and danced – releasing 400 years of pent up emotion.

They were the souls of those whose bodies littered the bottom of the Atlantic, whose families were torn asunder, whose names were erased.

They were those who knew the terror of being set upon by men with clubs, of being trapped in a torched house, of dangling at the end of a rough rope.

They were the souls of those who knew the humiliation of another person’s spit trailing down their faces, of being treated like children well into their twilight years, of being derided and despised for the beauty God gave them.

They were also the tears of those for whom “Yes We Can, ” Obama’s campaign slogan, took on a broader, more profound meaning.

“Yes We Can” escape the prison of lowered expectations and the cycles of poor choices. “Yes We Can” rise above history and beyond hatred. “Yes We Can” ascend to Martin Luther King’s mountain top and see the promised land where dreams are fulfilled, where the best man wins and where justice prevails.

During this election African-Americans, their hearts weary from disappointment, dared to hope and dream again. Tonight their dream has been realized.

Whether or not you agree with Barack Obama’s politics, there is no denying that his election represents a seminal moment in the African-American narrative and a giant leap forward on the road to America’s racial reconciliation.

In fact everyone, regardless of race, should feel free to shed a tear and be proud of how far our country has come.

Feel free to share your thoughts.


========================================
Note from Fred: Jonathon Blanks, author of the piece below, is a libertarian, not a Democrat or Republican.

http://blanksslate.blogspot.com/2008/11/president-elect-barack-obama.html

President-Elect Barack Obama

I have no illusions about an Obama presidency. I dislike the bulk of his policies. I cringe at the thought of a united Democrat-controlled government. I think the already impossible expectations of any president have been amplified for him and he is thus almost guaranteed to fail--perhaps miserably. I will be unrelenting in my criticism of his administration and its allies in Congress when they attempt to go beyond their constitutional bounds--and they almost certainly will.

All that said, when he approached the podium last night to give his victory speech, I wept.

I wept because I've heard countless blatantly racist diatribes, jokes, comments, and sub-human comparisons over the course of my life. I wept because of the pain my older family members endured and all the struggles they faced that I can't even fathom. I wept because, on several occasions, I've been told I can't date someone because her parents wouldn't approve of my race; that in spite of my intelligence, my responsibility, my diction, my future prospects, my talents and my everything else that makes me a good person--and even the fact that I look white--I'm different. It didn't matter whether the parents were liberal or conservative; or whether they were college educated or not: being black made me not good enough.

I wept because the America I just described--even my home state of Indiana which hasn't gone for a Democrat since Lyndon Johnson--voted for a black man to be President of the United States. And, nationally, it wasn't even close.

I could not be prouder of Barack Obama. And I am so very proud of my country.



what is Obama going to do then, why vote for a president because of the colour of his skin, isn't this racist
supposed a white man ran for presidency in South Africa on the basis of race, would he be voted in
I want to rule SA because I'm white!
Do you want a black president because he is black

political correctness works both ways, both whites and blacks can be racist, the current regimes of Zimbabwe and SA are anti-white racist
don't forget Mugabwe is a total fascist because of his race or human nature?

Obama has little experience as a politician, his election is like electing me, I have no experience in politics but I am ordained by the PTB
 

SarahLynn

Veteran Member
Allan Keyes-now there is a man of courage, conviction, principles, AND very much qualified. What a shame, what could have been.
 

Sherrynboo

Veteran Member
I think the main reason Obama won is because of what the republicans have done to this country for the last 8 years. McCain has been a big part of that problem so why expect him to change his stripes now? We had Clinton for 8 years and overall things went pretty well, economy wise He didn't confiscate our guns and actually attempted to balance the budget. I thing the budget is past the point of no return now. I did not vote for Obama but he has been duly elected and as my president, I will stand behind him until he gives me a reason not to. At least give the guy a fair shake until he has proven what his true agenda is!

Sherry in GA
 
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