Meemur
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CHAT So you wake up on Dec 9th, and the railroad strike has occurred -- what are the first things you will do?
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Donna_in_OK
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It's gonna hurt .... but.. I'm with them.
CaryC
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Yeah they had another strike in Austria ........Monday ?
Had a thought, I know it's rare but it happens:
The RR workers themselves are mad at Biden because he betrayed them. Imagine that. Voting for and even voting harder for, a Demoncrat and they betray you. I never would have thought that.
Never would I have thought voting Demoncrat would even consider betraying their base. The Rebulicans yea in a heart beat but a Demoncrat? Odd isn't it.
Well she was out of the room at the time, and I just knew THE GUYS would come in there and back me up, and my reply would move up the page. But NO, THE GUYS came in there and backed HER up. Bunch of chickens.
BTW I sleep in the dog house whenever I want. Got a good heater and AC, Recliner and TV with remote all stuffed in there.
So now that all ya'all took up for SB I'll make the coffee for Millwright, so you just come on down and we'll have a good old cup as friends do for one another. Ya may have to sift the grounds with your teeth, though. I just throw a handful of coffee in a pot and bring it to a boil, and drink. Seems like most people like to have their coffee run through a filter, but I like to do it river bank style.
Raggedyman
Res ipsa loquitur
OH LAW CARY!!!!
I STARTED alla this mess with my "disturbance in the force post" . . . next thing ya know we've got the
"sisterhood of the flying skillet" storm troopers out on ya
I'm a'feared a gittin' mah MAN KARD PULLED in righteous retribution
I STARTED alla this mess with my "disturbance in the force post" . . . next thing ya know we've got the
"sisterhood of the flying skillet" storm troopers out on ya
I'm a'feared a gittin' mah MAN KARD PULLED in righteous retribution
GingerN
Veteran Member
I didn't realize y'all had sold the farm.
babysteps
Veteran Member
It won't matter if the strike is a nothingburger or a BIG DEAL. Hubby will be going to work as usual. First responders are Essential, dontchaknow.
I filled my truck yesterday during my regular grocery run and picked up refills of Mom's meds. That's really about all I need to do in "preparation".
I'm absolutely sure that when something Big actually happens, I'll realize a dozen things I shoulda done... but since I can't think of them right now, what I've done will have to be good enough.
I filled my truck yesterday during my regular grocery run and picked up refills of Mom's meds. That's really about all I need to do in "preparation".
I'm absolutely sure that when something Big actually happens, I'll realize a dozen things I shoulda done... but since I can't think of them right now, what I've done will have to be good enough.
Yeah.... our son and his wife decided they couldn't stay in NY after she retires, so we moved to their small hobby farm about 200 miles north. 160 acres and 90 head of cattle were getting too much for us to handle alone, and the property taxes took every penny of our income.
Plans are to all move to the mid south together in a few years. In the meantime, we're more or less homesteading/subsistence farming and helping raise the three little granddaughters. We all get along really well... similar views on all the important stuff, including child raising (vital!), so its working out very well.
But I'm still brokenhearted about losing my beautiful farm... and absolutely furious at the politicians and their idiotic policies that made it necessary!
Summerthyme
Barry Natchitoches
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You are thinking about moving to the mid-south?
Property taxes on large farm parcels can be brutal in Tennessee, especially for folks on a fixed income. We have almost no help for seniors to pay outsized property taxes.
But down, just a little south of us, Mississippi has very low property taxes compared to most states. They do have an income tax, but I would think that would not be as much of an issue to you as property taxes.
They are also notorious for taxing your car.
Here in Tennessee, your yearly car tax is a flat fee - $108 a year, per car that is roadworthy enough to need a car tag.
In Mississippi, it varies depending on the book value of the car. If you run an old truck, like my 23 year old, mid sized pickup, that might work to your advantage. But Lord help you if you just bought a top of the line luxury vehicle!
You want to steer clear of the Memphis area, that is, northwest Mississippi. The Memphis metropolitan area now extends into several northwest Mississippi counties. Stay totally out of Northwest Mississippi.
But out in the areawhere Cary and Southern Breeze live is much better.
They are in northeast Mississippi.
You might PM them when it gets closer to the time to make your move, to get more specific information.
If I were buying a small farm today, I would not hesitate to buy into some areas of northeast Mississippi.
NoDandy
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So, you make bivouac coffee, just like an old Mess Sgt. Where you drink the coffee, then chew it. Yuk. Yeah, I remember those days, use to take my own filters, and get two cups. Once through the filter, was pretty good. Went well with a bacon or pork chop sandwich.
Good advice. DS has been doing the research... we'll just sort of be along for the ride (and some of the financing!)
Summerthyme
CaryC
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My dad was a mess SFC and boy could he cook. He was the one that taught me how to cook coffee.
SouthernBreeze
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I agree with you Barry concerning all things Mississippi. About NW MS, stay clear of Southhaven, Tunica, Olive Branch, and any place south along the MS. River! Southhaven, Tunica, and Olive Branch are now considered suburbs of Memphis.
Also, Gov. Tate Reeves is trying to do away with income tax for everyone. If you are 65+, you already don't pay any income or property tax here. Another point, the cost of living here is very low, too, even though, our car tags are quite expensive for newer cars and trucks.
Adjusting to our Southern culture and temps are something else entirely. LOL.
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CaryC
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You stop that right now! Getting people to move to MS, what is wrong with you??????? It's way to crowded here, way to. Why on a clear day I can see my neighbors house.
And Hot!
Why on a normal day in the summer I can see the heat waves coming off of the gravel roads.
(just poking)
Tristan
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If a strike happens, I'll go get plenty of bags of coffee.
I'll visit liquor store to get barter items. I'll stick to that story.
I'll fill all vehicles and gas cans.
That's it. We have enough ammo and storage food for a small country.
Why wait?
Beat the rush.
Raggedyman
Res ipsa loquitur
fret not - its going to happen to ALL of us - even the most experienced, long time, well prepared among us. . . all ANY of us can do is "the best we can". its the fervent members of the church of perpetual procrastination that will suffer the greatest. there won't be a need for any "I tried ta tell ya's" they will realize it themselves, and in short order
L.A.B.
Goodness before greatness.
I worked a rail unit in the port last night, discharging and loading-out. Normally, the company would run the entire team until Friday night, and re-order for the next week-shift the next day on Saturday.
Last night we were released on Tuesday. We’ll see how long the ships will stow rail cargo. FUBAR in the making.
Timing & proper Decision making Top to Bottom required.
I pray this pending chaos will serve us well. The Battle for the [RESET]!
How long from this soft-marker could it go from bee’s-wax to lambs blood?
3-days to 3 months?
Last night we were released on Tuesday. We’ll see how long the ships will stow rail cargo. FUBAR in the making.
Timing & proper Decision making Top to Bottom required.
I pray this pending chaos will serve us well. The Battle for the [RESET]!
How long from this soft-marker could it go from bee’s-wax to lambs blood?
3-days to 3 months?
psychgirl
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Local WIBC radio is really on this issue right now.
I’m at work but on break, have no idea what’s happening but they’re saying basically this is nothing but chaos now and the rail workers were lied to from the beginning is what I’m hearing?
Portraying it as a huge cluster.
I’m at work but on break, have no idea what’s happening but they’re saying basically this is nothing but chaos now and the rail workers were lied to from the beginning is what I’m hearing?
Portraying it as a huge cluster.
bracketquant
Veteran Member
bracketquant
Veteran Member
In my opinion, no.
If any strike happens, and happens in any magnitude, the first to suffer will be the lowest man. Any increase in magnitude and it'll reach beyond the low man. I don't believe it will reach "them", the ones who will laugh at any fingers.
But then, I'm simply not expecting things to get out of hand. I expect the two sides in the RR issue to win, while the rest of us lose. I do not expect all of us to lose.
CaryC
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CaryC
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What are my plans? Sleep in late:
Pelosi said in a letter to her colleagues last night that Democrats have stood with “hard-working railroaders in their fight against greedy railroad corporations for fairer wages, benefits and working conditions,” she said in the letter.
House lawmakers voted 290 to 137 on legislation that would force the adoption of a tentative labor agreement by rail workers, using the power of a 1926 law that allows Congress to intervene in railroad disputes that threaten to disrupt the U.S. economy.
US equities have rebounded on the news...
Any legislation that passes the House will have to be approved by the Senate as well. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I., Vt.) proposed a similar sick-leave measure.
As we detailed yesterday, union leaders have already expressed their ire at the intervention.
Michael Paul Lindsey, a locomotive engineer in Idaho and steering committee member for Railroad Workers United, told Insider it was a "blatant betrayal," but he wasn't surprised.
House lawmakers are also expected to vote on a second bill that would increase paid sick leave to seven days.
www.zerohedge.com
Democrat-Run House Votes To Push Labor Deal Down Railroad Unions' Throats
Update (1315ET): As expected, Democrats have 'crossed a line' and voted to remove labor unions' leverage by approving a bill to force them to accept the railroad labor deal.Pelosi said in a letter to her colleagues last night that Democrats have stood with “hard-working railroaders in their fight against greedy railroad corporations for fairer wages, benefits and working conditions,” she said in the letter.
House lawmakers voted 290 to 137 on legislation that would force the adoption of a tentative labor agreement by rail workers, using the power of a 1926 law that allows Congress to intervene in railroad disputes that threaten to disrupt the U.S. economy.
US equities have rebounded on the news...
Any legislation that passes the House will have to be approved by the Senate as well. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I., Vt.) proposed a similar sick-leave measure.
As we detailed yesterday, union leaders have already expressed their ire at the intervention.
Michael Paul Lindsey, a locomotive engineer in Idaho and steering committee member for Railroad Workers United, told Insider it was a "blatant betrayal," but he wasn't surprised.
Republicans have traditionally philosophically-opposed government intervention into private contractual obligations, and Senator Marco Rubio has vociferously defended the workers' rights:
House lawmakers are also expected to vote on a second bill that would increase paid sick leave to seven days.
Democrat-Run House Votes To Push Labor Deal Down Railroad Unions' Throats | ZeroHedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
www.zerohedge.com
Raggedyman
Res ipsa loquitur
sad to say I'm beginning to come to the realization of that very same thing here - and - I've only got 90 acres and NO cows.
you folks had waaayyyy more to deal with. even here it gets to be a bit much maintaining pastures and fence lines - even if you DON'T use them for cows. if you don't mow a pasture from time to time, the day eventually comes that you'll have to LOG IT. I don't even want to get started on keeping the ditch lines clear of leaves and dead fall. that's a year 'round chore and it becomes particularly important during late fall. neglecting ditch lines in the mountains is a HUGE mistake. all you need is a few small branches and a "toad strangler" of a down pour. if it manages to create a "dam" in your drainage ditch you can get a real mess of washed out road(s). rain water running down hill is devastatingly damaging. far better to realize its important to go from REGULARLY blowing/raking/scraping out several hundred yards of ditch every fall - and doing it at least once a week BEFORE it rains. skipping that necessary chore can end up meaning a track hoe, dump truck and lots of gravel to make repairs you WOULDN'T have had to make if you'd stayed on top of it to begin with.
to be honest one of the things I've begun to discuss with Raggedyann is exactly what she'd have to be certain was maintained should something happen to me. she's aware of some - but not all - of what's entailed in keeping this place up. much of it she'd have to hire out to be done. you were a lot more involved that she's been around here in terms of that kind of maintenance. she's not capable of doing a lot of this stuff by heself
bw
Fringe Ranger
"Stand with" is more than writing a strongly worded letter, or posing for pictures with union leaders. Standing with someone means you're with them when they actually need you.
Barry Natchitoches
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I hear you, Cary.
I feel the same way about southwest Tennessee.
But we can make an exception for Summerthyme and her kinfolk, can’t we?
I would love to have HER as a neighbor - but I have to steer her away from my very blue neck of the woods, for obvious reasons.
Barry Natchitoches
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If you old foggies in Alabama and Mississippi get a break on property taxes after 65, why can’t we get one in Tennessee?
Samuel Adams
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You will wake up on December 10th, to the exact same nothingburger you woke up to on January 1, 2000…….I care not that behind the scenes RR issues now and behind the scenes tech issues commencing 1997ish were/are real…..so is the fact that the Beast ain’t gunna spook it’s cash cow (the lobotomized American public) over no cliff.
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Zagdid
Veteran Member
I remember y2k because the computer graphics company I worked for received a letter from a very proactive and competent government that required us to identify all clocks imbedded in our equipment and determine the outcome of the y2k moment. In my opinion, our government then was partly responsible for the avoidance of any possible catastrophe.
This current incompetent government has only shown a propensity to fuel catastrophes.
bw
Fringe Ranger
Way before that. My first Y2k patch was '94, and if it weren't done a state driver license system would have failed in '95. But back to railroads ...
Samuel Adams
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Samuel Adams
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Yup.
Good thing they have absolutely nothing to do with anything, save moshing it on the stupid tube for the masses, eh ?
CaryC
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I hear you, Cary.
I feel the same way about southwest Tennessee.
But we can make an exception for Summerthyme and her kinfolk, can’t we?
I would love to have HER as a neighbor - but I have to steer her away from my very blue neck of the woods, for obvious reasons.
If you old foggies in Alabama and Mississippi get a break on property taxes after 65, why can’t we get one in Tennessee?
Well ......................since it's Summerthyme, but only close kin, no wagon train of folks LOL
You answered your own question; LOL Blue neck of the woods.
Why there were even Tenneneesians who fought for and with the Yankee's. And your Governor after the W-u-AR was a scalawag of the highest order.
Anyway just so anyone thinks I'm saying all this behind Summerthyme's back, I've got a PM out to her, if she or DH wants any info about MS.
And if she or hubby wants snow, and the only thing I can say to that is LAWDY, then AL has a ski resort. And that is true, google it. LOL
Kewpie
Senior Member
The chances of a strike beyond just a day or two are fairly nil. Remember, Congress/senate can, will, and historically have passed a law basically making a strike illegal.
BUT, as far as if it came to pass my first steps would be…well, liquor store, but I ain’t bartering! Just my own stash.
Probably stocking up on soil and compost. Probably some other garden stuff, though I’m good on the seeds I’m good with. Probably snagging extra water and things to purify water. Some fuel (heating/cooking/etc.) although I’m good there for quite awhile.
The government will immediately pass measures to stop a strike (by whatever means necessary) though. There is already historical precedent for this.
BUT, as far as if it came to pass my first steps would be…well, liquor store, but I ain’t bartering! Just my own stash.
Probably stocking up on soil and compost. Probably some other garden stuff, though I’m good on the seeds I’m good with. Probably snagging extra water and things to purify water. Some fuel (heating/cooking/etc.) although I’m good there for quite awhile.
The government will immediately pass measures to stop a strike (by whatever means necessary) though. There is already historical precedent for this.
Samuel Adams
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Exactly.
Highly hypersensationalized nothingburger.
Yummy
Highly hypersensationalized nothingburger.
Yummy
night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
I SINCERELY hope you folks are correct. But doubt it.