ALERT RUSSIA INVADES UKRAINE - Consolidated Thread

northern watch

TB Fanatic
Very, very believable . . .
which is precisely why people with a vision of this starting with a limited tactical nuclear exchange of some sort are liberals regardless of the smug smile on Hodges face.
I want to present an alternate idea, if I was the Russian leader instead of starting with a limited nuke exchange, hit the CONUS with a sudden nuclear stealth strike, catch the US leadership off guard. Hit the US so hard, it cannot get up.
The stealth strike would involve submarine launched nuclear armed cruise missiles and Club-K nuclear armed cruise missiles.
I am certain with all the illegals crossing the border, some Russian and Chinese special forces came in with them. They mission would be to bring down power lines and cause disruption in the US.
 

bobfall2005

Veteran Member
I would say the one that just cleared up some stuff is Joe.
The language of MAD has mostly been forgotten.
Do this, we're okay.
Do that, we're not okay.

Clear, precise communications.
It avoids misunderstandings.

Don't like Joe, but everyone knows where he stands.
China goes after Taiwan, militarily , US defends. Now China knows.
Russia uses tac nukes im Ukraine, US goes after Russia. Now Russia knows.
The white house staffers are just sweet talking the masses.

Message delivered.

Its Cold war 2.
Everyone is clear, everyone gets a better
Chance of seeing tomorrow.
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq

Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s interview with Newsweek, September 21, 2022​

September 21, 2022

Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s interview with Newsweek, September 21, 2022

Question:
Russia’s military operation in Ukraine continues, and many fear the conflict could go on indefinitely. Has Russia made progress toward its stated goals of “denazification” and “demilitarization” of Ukraine, and are the two sides anywhere closer toward a negotiated settlement than they were on February 24?

Sergey Lavrov: With its actions to nurture a Russophobic neo-Nazi regime in Ukraine, deploy military equipment and turn its territory into a springboard for containing Russia, the West left us no choice but to conduct a special military operation. Its goals are well-known: protection of the population of Donbass, elimination of threats to Russia’s security, demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine. All of them remain relevant and will be achieved, no matter how long it would take.

To date, the entire LPR, a significant part of the DPR, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions have been liberated. Peaceful life is taking shape in these territories. Despite the shelling and sabotage, repair and restoration works are underway at civilian infrastructure facilities and in the residential sector. New houses, schools, hospitals, cultural institutions are being built.
I would like to emphasize that the collective West, led by the United States, is openly seeking to defeat Russia “on the battlefield.” The United States and its allies are ready to sacrifice Ukraine for the sake of their geopolitical goals. To achieve them, they pump the country with weapons, and this leads to an escalated and prolonged conflict. It puts off the prospects of its settlement.

Washington is not interested in establishing peace and tranquillity in Ukraine. That became clear already in March, when Moscow and Kiev came close to reaching mutual agreements. Such turn of events obviously frightened the Americans and the British, so they actually forbade Ukraine to conduct further dialogue with Russia. Since then, the Ukrainian authorities have been shying away from negotiation process.

Question: Syria has become the first country other than Russia to recognize the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics as independent states. Does Russia view these entities as nations with fixed borders, or would Russia support efforts to expand their sovereignty to include other territories in which Russian forces currently operate in Ukraine? Alternatively, would Russia support separate independence measures in these territories or even referendums to join the Russian Federation as was the case for Crimea in 2014?

Sergey Lavrov: The first state to recognize the independence of the DPR and of the LPR was not Russia, but South Ossetia. And after Russia, Abkhazia, Syria and North Korea also did this.

Russia recognized the independence of the Donbass republics within the borders specified in their constitutions. In fact, that means the administrative borders of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions of the former Ukrainian SSR.

As for other Ukrainian territories liberated from the yoke of the neo-Nazi Kiev regime you mentioned, we proceed from the premise that their inhabitants have the right to independently determine their own destiny. We see the desire of people to be together with Russia and therefore we shall treat their choice with respect. The corresponding intentions have been voiced recently by the leaders of the DPR, LPR, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions. All of them are entitled to use the right to self-determination in accordance with the UN Charter.

Question: President Joe Biden confirmed early-on in the conflict that there had been a “complete rupture” in U.S.-Russia relations. On what levels are the countries still communicating? Are conversations being conducted about nuclear arms verification, deconfliction in regions like the Black Sea and Syria or the fates of U.S. citizens detained either in criminal court or the battlefield?

Sergey Lavrov: The Russian-American interstate dialogue has been practically frozen owing the United States. It is objectively not possible to maintain normal communication with Washington declaring the strategic defeat of Russia as an objective.

It equally pertains to the consultations on strategic stability and arms control discontinued by the American side. Naturally, we note some sketchy signals from the U.S. administration and personally Joe Biden concerning the resumption of the START dialogue, but what is behind those signals remains to be seen.

The Americans are avoiding any substantive interaction on regional deconfliction.

As for the detained U.S. citizens, we have repeatedly warned that it is counterproductive to bring this issue before the public. It should be dealt with professionally by the competent agencies in the format to be agreed by Moscow and Washington.

As for the Americans imprisoned during combat operations, one should turn to the authorities in Kiev as well as senior officials of the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics through official diplomatic channels.

Question: Sanctions imposed by the U.S. and its allies on Russia have dealt a shock to the global economy, and one area of considerable blowback has been in the energy sector, where in the U.S. and a number of other countries, the price of gas and other goods has become a major source of concern. Is it Russia’s hope that the domestic cost of these sanctions will soon outweigh their benefits and disrupt the coalition of countries waging economic war on Russia?

Sergey Lavrov: The West has been imposing unilateral restrictive measures under the guise of crippling Russia. However, they have failed to shatter the Russian economy. Moreover, the sanctions have appeared to be a two-edge weapon: increasing prices and decreasing incomes are seen in many European countries, as well as energy shortages and threats of social upheavals. The routine benefits of civilization become the privilege of the rich. This is the price that ordinary citizens pay for the anti-Russian policy of the ruling elites.

The whole sectors of European economies (including metallurgic and chemical) have been prospering for decades due to stable supplies of Russian inexpensive energy commodities. It allowed the EU countries to enter into successful competitions, including with American companies. It looks like this will not be the case anymore, and it has not been our choice.

If they want to act to the detriment of their own interests in the West, we cannot keep them from doing that.

Question: The mutual distrust that has emerged since the conflict began has led many to consider that the previous level of economic integration between Russia and the West may not be achieved for some time, if ever, even if the conflict were to be resolved. Is Russia prepared for this scenario in the long term and if so, what does that mean for Russia’s economic and geopolitical future? Might we see more investment in alternative frameworks such as BRICS and the Shanghai Cooperation Organization?

Sergey Lavrov: The frenzied response of the United States and its allies to Russia’s special military operation has basically drawn the line under a whole era of interaction between our country and the West. Those whom we believed to be trustworthy economic partners have chosen illegitimate sanctions and a unilateral break-off of business ties.

Russia is not happy about it: what had been built by decades of hard work was destroyed virtually overnight. Well, we will draw our own conclusions from the behaviour of our Western colleagues – I do not think that in the foreseeable future they will be able to restore their credibility as business counterparts.

We will continue working with those partners who are ready for equal, mutually beneficial cooperation, who have not been affected by anti-Russian hysteria. And they constitute the vast majority of the international community. We see wide interest in the expanded cooperation with us from the countries of Eurasia, Africa, and Latin America, members and participants in the EEU, the CSTO, the CIS, the SCO, BRICS, and many other non-Western countries.

We will continue to adapt to new foreign trade and financial realities, intensify import phase-out. Together with our friends, we will decrease the share of U.S. dollar in mutual trade and use national currencies in mutual settlements. We intend to make use of all available opportunities and instruments to protect our interests. I have no doubts that Russia will withstand any sanctions pressure.

Question: Russia and China have strengthened their comprehensive strategic partnership for years and both sides say they will continue to do so even amid the conflict in Ukraine, during which some major Chinese companies and institutions have been cautious not to trigger U.S. sanctions by dealing with Russian markets. What do the events since February 24 mean for the relationship between Moscow and Beijing and the multipolar international order both governments have sought to promote?

Sergey Lavrov: Strategic partnership with China remains an absolute foreign policy priority for Russia. It is sustainable, long-term, and does not depend on the volatility of the international environment. The relationship between Russia and China is characterized by deep mutual trust, mutual support in the protection of each other’s fundamental national interests, and willingness to expand mutually beneficial ties.

Intensive and trust-based dialogue between the leaders – President Putin and President Xi – plays a key role. This February, the Russian leader visited Beijing, and on 15 September top-level negotiations were held in Samarkand on the margins of the Meeting of the Council of Heads of State of the SCO.

In the context of heightened international tensions, the responsible approach adopted by Russia and China – permanent members of the United Nations Security Council – towards pressing issues is becoming increasingly relevant. Together with our Chinese friends, we will keep working on improving the world situation, facilitate the creation of a just multi-polar system based on the UN Charter, and, first of all, on the fundamental principle of the sovereign equality of states.

Question: This year marks the 50th anniversary of your graduation from the Moscow State Institute of International Relations and you’ve been involved in your country’s diplomacy ever since. Looking back at a half a century of experience, how would you evaluate the risk of confrontation between major powers today? Are the peoples of the world, including us as Americans and Russians, living through a particularly dangerous time?

Sergey Lavrov: Unfortunately, the global situation continues to degrade. The main cause, and I have had to speak about it repeatedly, is the persistent desire of the West led by the United States to ensure its global dominance, though it is impossible for obvious reasons. Nevertheless, Washington and its satellites do everything to slow down the process of democratization of international relations. They want to replace the UN-centred architecture formed in the wake of World War II and international law with some “rules-based order”. Acting in the worst colonial traditions, they divide the world into “democracies” and “authoritarian regimes”. They try to “press on” those who do not agree with this course, who pursue an independent policy and are guided by national interests, using unilateral sanctions, blackmail and blatant power play.
Today, Western states funnel weapons and military hardware into the neo-Nazi regime in Kiev, and train Ukraine’s armed forces. NATO, U.S. arms are used to fire at the Russian territory bordering Ukraine, killing civilians there. The Pentagon does not hide the fact of passing on to Kiev intelligence and target designations for strikes. We record the presence of American mercenaries and advisers “in the battlefield”. The United States, in fact, is teetering on the brink of turning into a party to conflict. This is to your question about the risk of a direct collision between nuclear powers.

Unfortunately, Washington seems to be still living in the day before yesterday, thinking in terms of unipolarity. They cannot accept the fact that the modern world is no longer West-centred. And it will never be again. Today, strong, independent players from developing countries have emerged and they are increasingly visible. These states and their integration associations do not want to participate in the anti-Russian “crusade” instigated from Washington.

Question: While we know that Russian officials have stated that they do not play sides in domestic U.S. politics, it is true that domestic politics have an influence on foreign policy. Is Russia tracking how the upcoming midterm elections and the 2024 presidential election may affect U.S. policy toward Russia and other foreign policy issues that affect Russia’s interests?

Sergey Lavrov: Once again, I would like to reaffirm our principled position of non-interference in the internal affairs of foreign states. The United States is no exception. We are not interfering, but of course we are closely monitoring the preparations for the November midterm elections to Congress. This is not a whim, but a duty of diplomats, journalists, and scholars. However, I can say straight away that we do not exaggerate the importance of the results of these elections in the context of improving Russian-American relations, given the persistent rejection at the Capitol of the very idea of equal dialogue with Moscow. It is still too early to say anything about the 2024 U.S. Presidential campaign since it has not really begun yet.

 

mecoastie

Veteran Member
I want to present an alternate idea, if I was the Russian leader instead of starting with a limited nuke exchange, hit the CONUS with a sudden nuclear stealth strike, catch the US leadership off guard. Hit the US so hard, it cannot get up.
The stealth strike would involve submarine launched nuclear armed cruise missiles and Club-K nuclear armed cruise missiles.
I am certain with all the illegals crossing the border, some Russian and Chinese special forces came in with them. They mission would be to bring down power lines and cause disruption in the US.
If he was to go nuke this is the only way to do it. Dont waste the time in the Ukraine or with a single strike to send a message. Send a message by hitting hard and fast. Bases and capital cities, critical infrastructure hubs.
 

mecoastie

Veteran Member
I would say the one that just cleared up some stuff is Joe.
The language of MAD has mostly been forgotten.
Do this, we're okay.
Do that, we're not okay.

Clear, precise communications.
It avoids misunderstandings.

Don't like Joe, but everyone knows where he stands.
China goes after Taiwan, militarily , US defends. Now China knows.
Russia uses tac nukes im Ukraine, US goes after Russia. Now Russia knows.
The white house staffers are just sweet talking the masses.

Message delivered.

Its Cold war 2.
Everyone is clear, everyone gets a better
Chance of seeing tomorrow.
You mean Biden? He doesnt know what he says never mind the meaning of it. If there isnt an X taped on the floor he doesnt know where to stand. He cant string a coherent sentence together. He had to have a cheat note to write a condolence for the Queens death. How many times have his statements been walked back? The fact that he doesnt know what he says scares me worse than Putins drivel.
 

db cooper

Resident Secret Squirrel
It's called hands on leadership
Well, yes, in some circles. But there is certainly a good element of propaganda here for this pecker-pianist actor/comedian. If his regime was not propped up by the US & European nations endless military and monetary support, I don't think he'd be engaging in such photo ops. Personally, I can't stand Zippy, and as for Putin, he is someone to fear, for I don't think this guy bullshits. Putin does not have to have endless photo ops to scare the hell out of the whole world.

The last time we were this close to a nuke war, President Kennedy was not running around looking for photo ops, hanging out with the troops, visiting soldiers in hospitals. No, he was hard at work planning, meeting with advisers and keeping our asses out of a huge war no one could win.
 

db cooper

Resident Secret Squirrel
I want to present an alternate idea, if I was the Russian leader instead of starting with a limited nuke exchange, hit the CONUS with a sudden nuclear stealth strike, catch the US leadership off guard. Hit the US so hard, it cannot get up.
The stealth strike would involve submarine launched nuclear armed cruise missiles and Club-K nuclear armed cruise missiles.
I am certain with all the illegals crossing the border, some Russian and Chinese special forces came in with them. They mission would be to bring down power lines and cause disruption in the US.
The problem with your idea, is that it is very plausible indeed. Given the weak kneed regime we have, by the time any order came out to do anything at all the whole damn place will be smoke, dust and mushroom clouds.
 

jed turtle

a brother in the Lord
I want to present an alternate idea, if I was the Russian leader instead of starting with a limited nuke exchange, hit the CONUS with a sudden nuclear stealth strike, catch the US leadership off guard. Hit the US so hard, it cannot get up.
The stealth strike would involve submarine launched nuclear armed cruise missiles and Club-K nuclear armed cruise missiles.
I am certain with all the illegals crossing the border, some Russian and Chinese special forces came in with them. They mission would be to bring down power lines and cause disruption in the US.
This is what I am actually expecting. Putin has said in the past that his days of living on the streets of -iirc - Leningrad-, taught him that if he knew he was going to end in a fight, that his best chance of surviving was to hit first and hit hard. Their Kanyon torpedo the size of a small submarine is designed to cause a tsunami able to wipe out major cities. That new submarine able to deliver that torpedo was just commissioned. Is our libtard NWO “leadership” in DC and Washington being controlled by the WEF who want us all dead and wiped off the face of the Earth ? Looks to me like they are...
 

northern watch

TB Fanatic

At the precipice of World War 3​

akrainer's Photo

BY AKRAINER
WEDNESDAY, SEP 21, 2022 - 8:24
Clash of the two systems of governance, as George Soros formulated it in his remarks to the World Economic Forum conference in May, seems to have reached a phase transition. Russian President Vladimir Putin has returned from last week’s summit of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization conference in Samarkand with a palpable sense of confidence and determination, and it does appear that he has obtained reassurances of support from all the key leaders during the event, including China’s Xi Jinping, India’s Narendra Modi, Turkey’s Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Iran’s Ebrahim Raisi, and even the new PM of Pakistan, Shehbaz Sharif.

Russia is ready to shift gears​

Now, the leadership of Russia is prepared to shift gears in Ukraine. While annexation of the Donbas region wasn’t part of the objectives set out at the outset of the “Special Military Operation” in February, this could be about to change. Namely, public referendums have been announced and will be held between 23 and 27 September in all the key regions controlled by Russia. The people will be voting on whether they want to become absorbed in Russian federation. This move will have a massive impact and remove any legal strictures the Russian leadership observed by waging war in foreign territory. Soon, this could become Russian territory and any attacks on Kherson, Donetsk, Lugansk or Zaporozhye will be regarded as attacks on Russia proper.

Laws for thee, rules for me​

This prospect has triggered quite a consternation in Washington, London and Bruxelles where political and military leaderships are sure to reject any such changes. American Secretary of State Antony Blinken wasted no time to declare that, “Any Russian sham ‘referenda’ in Ukraine would be illegitimate and an affront to the principles of sovereignty and territorial integrity…

Some might disagree, however. In July 2010, the International Court of Justice issued an “Advisory Opinion” on Kosovo (previously part of Serbia) in which it determined a few important points of international law. Namely:
  1. Unilateral declarations of independence are not illegal under international law.
  2. People’s right to self-determination supersedes territorial integrity.
But some restrictions do apply, so these principles don’t extend to the likes of the people of Catalunya. Or Crimea. Or for any people in Ukraine for that matter. You see, there’s international law and then there’s the rules. We use rules to determine which laws we observe and which ones we disregard. So rules must necessarily supersede the law. I think.

Rules based order or bust…​

Jest aside, western empire is now overtly and explicitly committed to this “rules based global order,” and Russia is clearly the greatest threat to that order. At last weekend’s NATO’s Military Committee Conference held in Tallinn (16-18 Sep. 2022), Estonia’s Defence Forces Chief Martin Herem delivered a speech stating as follows: “Collectively we must deny Russia the possibility to change today’s rules-based international order.” On that same occasion, the Committee’s chairman Admiral Rob Bauer announced “the biggest overhaul of our military structures since 1949.”

This morning’s news from Russia are more ominous still. Russia’s Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu made it explicit that, “The time has come when we are at war with NATO and the collective West.” Apparently, Russia is now preparing to mobilize another 300,000 reservists and we know that such a force is not required in Ukraine alone. Another rumor from Russia this morning is that the Governor of the Central Bank of Russia, Elvira Niabullina has tendered her resignation to President Putin.

It appears that we are at the precipice of a major escalation and the channels of de-escalation are falling silent. For reasons that are still unclear, a call between Vladimir Putin and French President Macron failed to even take place yesterday (according to some reports, it was Vladimir Putin who wanted to speak to Macron but Macron declined the call while other reports stated the opposite – Macron tried to get through but Putin declined).

Boris Johnson’s excellent adventure​

We should recall that only a few months ago Henry Kissinger warned the collective west to stand down and avoid this conflict even at the price of ceding Ukraine’s territory, but his warnings fell on deaf ears. That was in late May. In fact in April and in July of this year negotiated settlement of the Ukraine crisis was being seriously discussed between Kiev and Moscow. But on both occasions, Boris Johnson intervened to torpedo the negotiations and abruptly flew to Kiev to persuade Ukraine’s President Zelensky to end the talks.

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This was the same Boris Johnson who announced the imminent conflict in a speech to the dignitaries in – where else – the City of London last November. On that occasion, he issued a warning to the European governments: “We hope that our friends [in Europe] may recognize that a choice is shortly coming between mainlining ever more Russian hydrocarbons in giant new pipelines and sticking up for Ukraine and championing the cause of peace and stability.”

When the history of this conflict is being written in the future, it will have to answer how it was possible for one deeply unpopular leader to wiled such disproportionate influence on events so far from his own nation’s borders, why he acted as he did and on whose behalf he did so. What is certain is that his actions benefited neither the British nor the Ukrainian people.

What of the markets?​

The coming changes will likely lead to much turmoil in the markets. What we can predict is that we’ll see many large-scale price events (LSPEs) both in financial and in commodity markets. While such events themselves are unpredictable (their timing and magnitude), one thing we do know for sure is that they tend to unfold as trends over sustained time periods that might span weeks, months or even years.

Contributor posts published on Zero Hedge do not necessarily represent the views and opinions of Zero Hedge, and are not selected, edited or screened by Zero Hedge editors.

 

China Connection

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raven

TB Fanatic
I want to present an alternate idea, if I was the Russian leader instead of starting with a limited nuke exchange, hit the CONUS with a sudden nuclear stealth strike, catch the US leadership off guard. Hit the US so hard, it cannot get up.
The stealth strike would involve submarine launched nuclear armed cruise missiles and Club-K nuclear armed cruise missiles.
I am certain with all the illegals crossing the border, some Russian and Chinese special forces came in with them. They mission would be to bring down power lines and cause disruption in the US.
I'd lean toward sinking that aircraft carrier off Taiwan, eliminating Okinawa, and Guam and getting action going in the Pacific.
Eliminating Diego and that fleet to turn lose the Iranians.
Taking down the North American Air Defense system and flying bombers through the North and delivering to Northern US cities.

And then see how well the team in Washington handles multitasking.
 

plantman

Veteran Member
I 100 percent agree with this guy regarding Putin not having a reverse gear. He has never threatened, he has always followed through. That said, if Putin does do this, it is important to realize that this only further's the WEF agenda in the dissolution of the USA. My gut instinct says that Putin is establishment.

The US is doomed. Complacency kills.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Liveuamap
@Liveuamap
11m

President @AndrzejDu: This is not a regional conflict: this war - Russia's war against Ukraine - is the source of a global fire, this war will affect both our and your countries. Unless it has already happened https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/20-september-president-andrzejduda-this-is-not-a-regionalvia @prezydentpl

View: https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1572349506397552640?s=20

Just now catching up after a long and stressful day at work. OK--this "map" that "President AndzeiDu" had accompanying his tweet that "this war....is a global fire...that will affect both our and your countries"---this map is OF NEW YORK CITY.


And I never knew that one of its boroughs is called "New BABYLON."
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
I hate it when I am correct. It seems the September 24th date has more significance than I first thought. Yom Kippur is on October 4th also.


I would say a nuclear exchange is imminent.
I went to Safeway this afternoon. The sheeple were lined up on the self checkout lines 30 deep, and for several cycles too. And the crazies were absolutely bonkers. I saw a black guy start a fire under a park bench to cook
his lunch.

I said from Day one Putin would never lose. He won't. Nukes will come into play. Oreally, prepare for a nuke exchange. Heck, it is 0200 PST and we could have launches within hours if zippy goes for it.
The ukies will now be uterrly crushed. NATO will be engaged.
IT IS TEOTWA
WKI
Doug--since you brought up Sept 24--


I've often thought a nuclear exchange would be the perfect "cover" for the Rapture to happen simultaneously--

the official story will simply be that all those extra people were somehow "vaporized"--even if they weren't in an area that was hit

And in all the ensuing chaos--who will care, anyway?
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
I want to present an alternate idea, if I was the Russian leader instead of starting with a limited nuke exchange, hit the CONUS with a sudden nuclear stealth strike, catch the US leadership off guard. Hit the US so hard, it cannot get up.
The stealth strike would involve submarine launched nuclear armed cruise missiles and Club-K nuclear armed cruise missiles.
I am certain with all the illegals crossing the border, some Russian and Chinese special forces came in with them. They mission would be to bring down power lines and cause disruption in the US.

That works both ways....

ETA: I wouldn't be surprised if either the Russians or CCP contracted out that SF side of such a scenario to the Cartels.
 
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northern watch

TB Fanatic

Xi Tells Armed Forces Focus On Preparing For Wars As Geopolitical Flashpoints Intensify​

BY TYLER DURDEN
ZERO HEDGE
WEDNESDAY, SEP 21, 2022 - 10:40 PM

Coming off last week's Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) in Uzbekistan where the two leaders met, the Australian Strategic Policy Institute observes, "Xi has likely sensed the opportunity to use the Sino-Russian 'no limits' partnership to extract greater Russian resources from Putin in exchange for China’s continued backing."

"Despite his seemingly unimpressed face at the summit, Xi is unlikely to break ties with Putin over the lack of Russian progress in Ukraine. Russia simply remains too important a partner in China’s strategy to challenge the United States’ position in the Indo-Pacific," the institute's analysis adds.

And interesting given the timing, Xi on Wednesday - the same day that Putin declared a 'partial' national military mobilization - addressed a national military seminar, telling top officers to focus their attention on gearing up for potential military action on the horizon.



"It is imperative to conscientiously summarize and apply successful experience in reforms, to master new situations and [understand] the requirements of the tasks, to focus on preparing for wars, and to have the courage to explore and innovate," Xinhua News Agency quoted the Chinse president as saying.

He said further at the Beijing-hosted defense conference, which included high-ranking representatives of China's Central Military Commission (CMC), as well as the People's Armed Police Force and military academies, that major reforms to the nations armed forces he initiated starting years ago have been successful.

"Long-standing systemic obstructions, structural incongruities and policy issues in the development of national defense and the armed forces have been resolved," he told the top defense officials.

Last week's SCO conference involved moments where Putin seemed on the defensive, particularly in dialogue with China's Xi and India's Modi...

Meanwhile, on Tuesday a pair of Western warships make a provocative sail through of the contested Taiwan Strait, at a moment the PLA military continues its heavy patrol presence surrounding Taiwan in the wake of the early August Pelosi visit, as CNN describes:
US and Canadian warships sailed through the Taiwan Strait on Tuesday following weekend remarks from President Joe Biden that the US would defend Taiwan in the event it is attacked by China.
A US Navy ship, the Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS Higgins, conducted a “routine Taiwan Strait transit” on Tuesday, US Navy spokesperson Lt. Mark Langford said in a statement.
The US ship conducted the transit “in cooperation with Royal Canadian Navy Halifax-class frigate HMCS Vancouver,” Langford said.
It wasn't the first time Biden answered with a simple "yes" when pressed on whether the US would defend Taiwan if the island were invaded.

He issued the blunt response when asked in a CBS "60 Minutes" interview which aired Sunday what the US reaction would be if China decided to invade Taiwan. "Yes, if, in fact, there was an unprecedented attack," he said in a sit-down with CBS' Scott Pelley. Xi no doubt had such provocative comments from the US commander-in-chief fresh on his mind when he addressed Wednesday's military conference in Beijing.

 

danielboon

TB Fanatic
This is what I am actually expecting. Putin has said in the past that his days of living on the streets of -iirc - Leningrad-, taught him that if he knew he was going to end in a fight, that his best chance of surviving was to hit first and hit hard. Their Kanyon torpedo the size of a small submarine is designed to cause a tsunami able to wipe out major cities. That new submarine able to deliver that torpedo was just commissioned. Is our libtard NWO “leadership” in DC and Washington being controlled by the WEF who want us all dead and wiped off the face of the Earth ? Looks to me like they are...
Um Duduman pretty much said this America will burn
 

mecoastie

Veteran Member
Just now catching up after a long and stressful day at work. OK--this "map" that "President AndzeiDu" had accompanying his tweet that "this war....is a global fire...that will affect both our and your countries"---this map is OF NEW YORK CITY.


And I never knew that one of its boroughs is called "New BABYLON."
He was speaking at the UN in NYC. Hence the m
 

Oreally

Right from the start
View: https://youtu.be/Uvmn8HkEt-I



in the first 15 or so minutes, a very sober assessment of the implications of Putin's address for war's progress, and also a very negative assessment of Ukrainian competency in both the mil and the pollical arena. he is Ukrainian, but not at all a regime cheerleader.

interesting coverage of the prisoner exchange, why it happened and its possible effect on Russian army morale. it seems the leadership of Azov was released to Turkey.

in the last 12 minutes, a quick overview of the frontlines. worth watching if only to catch up.

View: https://youtu.be/Uvmn8HkEt-I


28 min
 

northern watch

TB Fanatic

Victory or nuclear havoc Putin's dilemma in the West: We will use "strategic nuclear weapons" to protect donbass and surrounding areas – WarNews247 confirmation!​

"There is no going back - Stupid NATO retirees with strategic gallons"​

22/09/2022 - 13:33
War News 24 / 7

The former Prime Minister of Russia and Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation, Dmitry Medvedev, has just confirmed WarNews247 as he announced to the West that nuclear weapons will be used to protect the Donbass and the surrounding areas!

That's exactly what WarNews247 has been writing all this time.

N.Medvedev said the obvious: Now any attack by Ukrainians against Russian territory can be repelled with the use of nuclear weapons and even strategic ones.

The phrase "strategic nuclear weapons" indicates that Russia warns not only Ukraine but the countries of the West that supply Kiev with weapons.

"We will use nuclear weapons"​

According to what he wrote on his Telegram channel, Russia will not hesitate to use "strategic nuclear weapons" in case the Donbass and other regions of southeastern Ukraine are threatened, following the referendums that have been called for their annexation to the Russian Federation.

"Results of the decisions of the Supreme Chief of 21.09.22

  1. Referendums will be held and the republics of Donbass and other territories will be admitted to Russia.
  2. The protection of all territories that have joined will be significantly enhanced by the Russian Armed Forces.
"Russia has announced that not only mobilization capabilities, but also any Russian weapons, including strategic nuclear weapons and weapons based on new technologies, can be used to protect the Donbass and other territories after the referendums on their accession to Russia."

The Western establishment and all citizens of NATO countries must understand that Russia has chosen its own path and there is no going back, Dmitry Medvedev continued, commenting on Putin's decisions to support the referendums in Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporizhia and on the partial mobilization in the Russian Federation.


"The Western establishment, in general all citizens of NATO countries, must understand that Russia has chosen its own path. There is no going back," Medvedev wrote.

"Various stupid pensioners with strategic gallons do not have to scare us with discussions about a NATO strike in Crimea.

Hypersonic (weapons) are guaranteed to be able to reach targets in Europe and the US much faster,"
Medvedev added.

Earlier, retired US Lieutenant General Ben Hodges threatened Russia with the destruction of military bases in Crimea if Russia uses nuclear weapons within the framework in Ukraine.

According to the retired American general, in case of use of nuclear weapons, the Russian military bases in Crimea will be destroyed, provided that the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Navy is also attacked.

According to US General Ben Hodges, the probability of Russia using nuclear weapons is extremely small, but the United States of America is ready for such actions.

Victory or nuclear havoc the V.Putin dilemma in the West​

"The whole world should pray for Russia's victory, because there are only two ways to end this: either Russia wins, or there will be a nuclear apocalypse," Konstantin Malofeyev, a nationalist Russian tycoon, said in an interview.

"If we do not win, we will have to use nuclear weapons, because we cannot lose," Malofeyev added.

"Does anyone really believe that Russia will accept defeat and not use its nuclear arsenal?" he asked.


 

psychgirl

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This is what I am actually expecting. Putin has said in the past that his days of living on the streets of -iirc - Leningrad-, taught him that if he knew he was going to end in a fight, that his best chance of surviving was to hit first and hit hard. Their Kanyon torpedo the size of a small submarine is designed to cause a tsunami able to wipe out major cities. That new submarine able to deliver that torpedo was just commissioned. Is our libtard NWO “leadership” in DC and Washington being controlled by the WEF who want us all dead and wiped off the face of the Earth ? Looks to me like they are...
Now there’s a novel idea to destroy the US
Use a weapon that causes a TSUNAMI !
 

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From the Wall Street Journal

America Has Lost Its Oil Buffer; The Strategic Petroleum Reserve is at historically low levels, when there are still many supply uncertainties

Thursday, September 22, 2022, 7:00 AM ET
By Jinjoo Lee
Wall Street Journal

Brace for impact: The U.S. is running out of a cushion reserved for oil shocks.

The U.S. Energy Information Administration said Wednesday that the Strategic Petroleum Reserve declined by nearly 7 million barrels in the week ended September 16, leaving it at roughly 427 million barrels—the lowest since 1984. For the first time since 1983, the SPR now holds less oil than commercial storage.

The U.S. has been drawing from the reserve at a rapid pace this year. The Energy Department on Monday said it has released roughly 155 million barrels of crude oil since President Biden authorized a draw of up to 180 million barrels on March 31. That implies a draw of slightly less than 900,000 barrels a day, or nearly 1% of global oil demand. The DOE on Monday said it plans to sell up to 10 million barrels from the SPR in November, extending the SPR draw beyond the initial October target. That would leave only about 15 million barrels that could be sold under the emergency authorization.


For Mr. Biden, who was looking to use the emergency authorization to lower pump prices, the move has been a near-term success, at least in the critical time leading up to the November midterm elections. Gasoline prices have declined steadily in the past three months and average $3.66 a gallon, down from a high of $5.03 in mid-June, according to GasBuddy.

Arguably, though, the release didn’t turn out to be necessary for energy security—the SPR’s stated purpose. The International Energy Agency initially thought Russia’s oil production would be cut by 3 million barrels a day after its invasion of Ukraine. Back then, there was at least a “perceived supply emergency” posed by Russia, said Bob McNally, president of the energy-consulting firm Rapidan Energy Group. That turned out to be a wild overestimate. As of August, Russia’s exports were down just 400,000 to 450,000 barrels a day from prewar levels, according to the latest IEA report. As Dan Pickering, chief investment officer at Pickering Energy Partners, puts it, “High prices are inconvenient. Lack of availability is a crisis.”

Depleted SPR levels leave the U.S. with fewer options in case of supply disruptions, which remain possible. To begin with, Russia’s oil exports will become a real wild card after Dec. 5, when the European Union’s import ban on Russian oil takes effect. By February 2023, the IEA expects Russia’s daily oil output to be 1.9 million barrels below preinvasion levels. While the Group of Seven nations agree on some form of price cap on Russian oil, what that mechanism will actually look like and how it will affect Russian supply are uncertain. On top of that, the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries has repeatedly signaled that it will cut output if prices fall. It already did so—albeit in a symbolic way—earlier this month, pulling back 100,000 barrels a day. And then there are also demand-side risks in the form of a potential recession and further lockdowns in China.

With so many hazards just around the bend, the U.S. needs a fully functioning air bag. Alas, this one comes with diminished cushioning capacity. Though the president can technically authorize more SPR drawdowns, there will be a limit, given that the IEA has a minimum stockholding obligation for participating members. RBC Capital Markets previously pegged that number for the U.S. at roughly 315 million barrels. And the DOE will eventually have to replenish the SPR by the same amount that it drew this year, increasing future oil demand. A DOE spokesperson said replenishment won’t likely occur until September 2023.

Besides the short-term political gain, the SPR draw could turn out to have been a losing strategy however the supply-demand balance shakes out. If there is an actual oil shock and not enough oil in the SPR to cushion it, it would be a painful lesson on why the reserve exists in the first place. If there is no such shock, this year’s SPR draw might have set a precedent for politicized use in the future.

Write to Jinjoo Lee at jinjoo.lee@wsj.com

America Has Lost Its Oil Buffer - WSJ
 
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