ALERT RUSSIA INVADES UKRAINE - Consolidated Thread

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Housecarl

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wait-n-see said:
Those under Putin have little choice in the matter being under an communist dictatorship. They are along for the ride with what their leadership demands, less than the Chinese and even more less than the North Koreans.

Those of us in the west at least have some, even if slight, ability in swaying our leadership. even if our elections have become a joke, the elite still have to placate their minions.
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Tell that to Ceucescu....
 
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northern watch said:

Biden Rebukes Russia's "Outrageous" Ukraine Escalation, Says US "Not Seeking A New Cold War"​

BY TYLER DURDEN
ZERO HEDGE
WEDNESDAY, SEP 21, 2022 - 11:59 AM

Update(1159ET): As expected President Biden in his speech blasted Putin's "outrageous" invasion of Ukraine and latest escalation by ordering a 'partial' mobilization. He stressed before the UN General Assembly the war is "about extinguishing Ukraine's right to exist as a state — plain and simple." On Ukraine, the president said further, "The world should see these outrageous acts for what they are. Putin claims he had to act because Russia was threatened. But no one threatened Russia, and no one other than Russia sought conflict."

"Ukraine has the same rights that belong to every sovereign nation. We will stand in solidarity with Ukraine. We will stand in solidarity against Russian aggression," Biden continued. He highlighted Putin's mention of nuclear weapons in his early Wednesday speech, and responded "we are not seeking a new Cold War." Biden made mention of alleged atrocities by Russian forces in places like Izium, and even charged the Kremlin with "torture" of Ukrainian civilians.
Overall, there was little unexpected in the somewhat lengthy speech, nor were there any specific new US courses of action or sanctions in response to the Ukraine conflict or Putin's fresh declarations. Below is Biden's UN address, which lasted a little over 30-minutes, in full...

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President Joe Biden is set to address the United Nations General Assembly Wednesday morning at UN headquarters in New York City. Crucially it will come hours after Russian President Vladimir Putin in his own major speech addressing the Ukraine conflict announced a 'partial mobilization' of national forces - or rather of reserve units, as the Kremlin is now clarifying. Calling the moves “urgent, necessary steps to defend the sovereignty, security and territorial integrity of Russia,” Putin said that Russia is fighting the full might of NATO. The US and its allies, he said, are seeking to “destroy” Russia.

Putin also accused the west of using "nuclear blackmail" against Russia noting that "if its territorial integrity is threatened Russia will definitely use all the means at its disposal" to defend Russian territory. "This is not a bluff," he had stressed. US officials were quick to condemn what they said is a severe "escalation" of the "war of aggression" against Ukraine. Putin's speech additionally included an order for fresh mobilization of 300,000 "reservists". The White House issued an initial statement saying it takes Putin's words about nuclear weapons "seriously" - but that it still doesn't see the need to increase America's nuclear readiness and strategic deterrents.

Given that Biden's UN remarks are coming the same day as Putin's significant new declaration - being widely viewed as a new strategy of using the fuller might of the Russian military's blunt forces amid the Ukrainian counteroffensive in the east - which has seen some success, all eyes will be on Biden and his potentially outlining a specific response, including the likelihood of more sanctions.

He's also expected to announce $2.9 billion for a fund aimed at mitigating global food insecurity, in part driven by the seven-month Ukraine conflict.

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Cold war?? What a joke!

This has already gone hot. The only question is how hot it will get and anyone survives at the end.
 
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Housecarl

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Red Baron said:
Russia wants to mobilize?

Russia can't adequately supply their own troops currently fighting with food, fuel, medicine or even pay.

Russia doesn't have the officers to lead these men nor the NCO's to train them to current standards.

These new "reserves" are just going to be cannon fodder.
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Makes me wonder how many PLA or NORK senior NCOs, Lts and Captains speak fluent Russian. Brazil's next biggest contribution to the Allies was supplying a tranche of company grade French speaking officers to flesh out the French Army’s organization charts following behind anti-submarine and surface raider patrols.
 
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Housecarl

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wait-n-see said:
You actually trying to equate Ceucescu to Putin?

You really think they would have the same resources available to them in keeping the population under control? wow!

I don't seem them the same at all.
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On paper Ceucescu had more resources per capita to keep him in power that Putin has. The same can be said for any banana republic. When his Praetorians saw the tide turning they went with it.
 
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mecoastie

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northern watch said:
A gradual call up of 300000 reserves. No extra conscription. The continued threat of nukes and recycling the same anti NATO talking points. And this time he really isnt bluffing.

Nothing earth shattering there.

Is 300,000 the true number?
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300000 is what Shoigu stated in his speech

Russian reserves are different than our Ready Reserves or National Guard. A vast majority of them are like our Inactive Ready Reserve. Guys who served their active time and are now on a list to get recalled if there is a war. They dont train on weekends etc. Russia has tried several iterations of our Ready Reserve with limited success. I suspect these are the guys that will go first as they should have the current training and some equipment. Then they would be followed by the others over time as they come in for retraining and equipment. If I was Russia I would start with the guys most recently released from active duty and work backwards.
 
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Housecarl said:
On paper Ceucescu had more resources per capita to keep him in power that Putin has. The same can be said for any banana republic. When his Praetorians saw the tide turning they went with it.
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We will just have to agree to disagree as I don't see a banana state dictator the same as the dictator of a major state like Russia. Ceucescu had no where near the ability to keep the minions in line that Putin has.

Odds are we will see one way or the other very soon.
 
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jward

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any way to spin this as a wee bit o' deescalation or positive signal?

Doge
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#Russia has released 10 prisoners of war captured in #Ukraine following mediation by Saudi Arabia's crown prince. Among the list of POWs released is British-born Aiden Aslin, who was sentenced to death and told he'd be executed, and Americans Alexander Drueke and Andy Huynh.

Croatian man Vjekoslav Prebeg who went to Ukraine to fight has also been released. He was also facing the death penalty, accused by Russian separatist authorities of being a mercenary.


12:12 PM · Sep 21, 2022·Twitter Web App
 
jward

jward

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mecoastie said:
300000 is what Shoigu stated in his speech

Russian reserves are different than our Ready Reserves or National Guard. A vast majority of them are like our Inactive Ready Reserve. Guys who served their active time and are now on a list to get recalled if there is a war. They dont train on weekends etc. Russia has tried several iterations of our Ready Reserve with limited success. I suspect these are the guys that will go first as they should have the current training and some equipment. Then they would be followed by the others over time as they come in for retraining and equipment. If I was Russia I would start with the guys most recently released from active duty and work backwards.
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Explainer on Russian Conscription, Reserve, and Mobilization​

I have found this of use in keeping it straight....


March 05, 2022​



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Kateryna Stepanenko, Frederick W. Kagan, Brian Babcock-Lumish
March 5, 2022
  • The early announcement of the 2022 spring draft is unlikely to increase Russian combat power in Ukraine in the near term.
  • Recent Russian efforts to create a Western-style reserve force are unlikely to materially impact combat operations in Ukraine.
  • As Russia exhausts its high-readiness units staffed with contract soldiers, the quality of reinforcements is likely to be much lower than the units first committed to the invasion.
The Russian military is a hybrid format combining a traditional cadre-and-reserve conscript system and a contract-professional system. While the Russian Army has made efforts to professionalize its ranks, particularly in the last 15 years, it remains reliant on conscripts, both for its active-duty force and for its reserve forces in the event of general mobilization.[1] Most combat units must be filled out by conscripts or mobilized reservists in order to be combat-capable. Contract soldiers are concentrated in the cadre and elite units, especially the airborne units.
The cadre-and-reserve units of the Russian Armed Forces are maintained at a low readiness with a limited number of professional staff and conscripts, with the expectation that they would be staffed with reservists in the event of mobilization.[2] The Russians have already used many cadre-and-reserve units in Ukraine, and they have not performed well against the Ukrainians, with some units suffering heavy losses. Russia does not likely have a large reserve of highly skilled contract units remaining, although there are probably some uncommitted forces.
Conscription
The Russian Armed Forces conscript men semi-annually, with the fall draft lasting from October 1 until December 31 and the spring draft running from April 1 until July 15.[3] In 2022, the Kremlin announced the spring draft early on February 18.[4] The draft affects all men aged 18 to 27 years old, though some conscripts can be as young as 16 years old.[5] Russian conscripts typically serve one year.[6] The annual conscription pool of all Russian military-aged men is approximately 1.2 million people, though only about half are compelled to present themselves at their local military commissariat (voenkomat). The Russian General Staff reported conscripting 127,000 people for the fall 2021 draft and 134,000 people in spring 2021 out of 672,000 summoned men.[7] The number of conscripts is relatively consistent year on year, with 263,000 in 2020 and 267,000 in 2019.[8] Approximately 261,000 conscripts from 2021 are currently serving across Russian units, with the fall 2021 conscripts entering their third month of training.
New conscripts undergo a one- to two-month basic training, followed by three-to-six months of advanced training before arriving at their assigned units.[9] Current law precludes conscripts from deploying to combat with less than four months of training; however, martial law or general mobilization could supersede the current policy, allowing for the immediate employment of new conscripts or mobilized reservists.[10] Some of the fall 2021 conscripts are likely already serving in units fighting in Ukraine. The rapid employment of relatively untrained reservists is unlikely to materially increase Russia’s combat power in Ukraine.

Russian Reserve
The Russian reserve has over two million former conscripts and contract servicemen on paper, but few are actively trained or prepared for war.[11] Historically, only 10 percent of reservists receive refresher training after completing their initial term of service.[12] Russia lacks the administrative and financial capacity to train reservists on an ongoing basis. According to a 2019 RAND analysis, Russia only had 4,000 to 5,000 troops in what would be considered an active reserve in the Western sense, meaning soldiers attending regular monthly and annual training.[13] Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu has repeatedly stated that the Russian Armed Forces hoped to have 80,000-100,000 active reserve members.[14]
In 2021, the Russian military started a new initiative to remedy its lack of a ready reserve, the Russian Combat Army Reserve (BARS-2021). BARS-2021 aimed to establish an active reserve by recruiting volunteer reservists for three-year contract service.[15] BARS-2021 operated on the same principle as US and NATO reserves, where reservists actively train and are compensated. The concept of BARS-2021 was that volunteer Russian reservists would regularly participate in monthly exercises and maintain their mobilization readiness while maintaining their civilian jobs.[16]
Local administrations began distributing information about enlisting into the Russian reserves throughout late August and early September 2021, offering significant financial incentives.[17] Eligible reservists included soldiers younger than 42, junior officers younger than 47, colonels younger than 57, and other senior officials younger than 52.[18] Reservists would continue training two or three times a month throughout peacetime and form their own military units. The Southern Military District (SMD) announced a goal of having a 38,000-person reserve corps of service veterans, up from 400 people.[19] There is limited information on how many reservists returned to military service; Novokuznetsk data shows that the city planned to gain 220 reservists, but reported only recruiting 20.[20] The Central Military District (CMD) reported conducting a BARS-2022 program from January 24-26, 2022, during which the CMD gained 9,000 reservists.
 
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The Russian Armed Forces sought to create exclusively reservist units but likely did not accomplish its goals due to low engagement.[21] The Russian Defense Ministry hoped to recruit more than 100,000 reservists starting in August 2021, but it is unlikely the Kremlin was able to achieve its goals on such a short timeline.
Mobilization

Current law limits mobilization of reserves to soldiers and sailors younger than 45 and officers younger than 55. Men who transferred to the reserve less than two years ago, fathers of three or more children, and those with criminal records are also exempt from mobilization under current law.[22] The Russian State Duma adopted a bill on February 22 to strengthen general mobilization, making it mandatory for men to appear at a military commissar’s office without receiving a conscription notice from regional authorities.[23] This law will reduce the administrative time needed to enlist conscripts if the Kremlin announces martial law. Russian independent media source Vazhnye Istorii explained that the Russian military can activate both reservists and new conscripts during general mobilization, including those previously exempted from conscription.[24] In the event of a general mobilization, the Russian Army will likely attempt to fill the ranks of nascent reserve units and backfill combat casualties from units already serving in Ukraine.
The Russian cadre-and-reserve units concentrated around Ukraine before the invasion almost certainly required a significant reserve call-up to fill out. As the ground offensive in Ukraine stalls, the Russian military likely faces a requirement for a new reserve call up to fill out additional units and replace individual losses in these units. There is reporting as of March 5 that 3,000 individual replacements are being mobilized across the Russian border from Kharkiv to replace combat losses in Russian units.[25]

As early as December 2021, the Russian Committee for Soldier’s Mothers claimed that newly signed reservists and contractors started deploying to units near the Ukrainian border.[26] The Committee claimed that the new reservists arrived in Belgorod Oblast to the following units: Training Military unit in Kovrov (unit number 306616), 752nd Motorized Rifle Regiment (Valuyki), 3rd Motorized Rifle Division (Boguchar, Valuyki), 4th Guards Tank Division, and 2nd Guards Motor Rifle Division.[27] US officials also note that Russian reservists will be integrated across all 120-125 battalion tactical groups following the initial invasion.[28]
Conclusion
Russia is likely rapidly exhausting the manpower it can readily use to generate additional effective combat power even as its forces lose combat effectiveness in Ukraine amid high losses. Russian efforts to mobilize more manpower can bring more people into Russian combat units, but those people are unlikely to be well-enough trained or motivated to generate large amounts of new combat power.

Mobilization efforts are likely to start producing diminishing returns as Russia moves through the categories of fully-trained and recently-released reservists into categories of people further removed from their initial military experiences and/or those who will undergo hasty training before deployment to the front lines. Individual replacements for battlefield losses are unlikely to have the same training as their predecessors, and new units or those reinforced by these augmentees will not have undergone unit-level training prior to employment. More units and reservist replacements will likely appear in Ukraine, therefore, but the net effect on Russia’s actual combat capability will likely be small and diminishing.
A declaration of martial law and general mobilization would not overcome the structural challenges of Russia’s hybrid cadre-and-reserves and contract-soldier system. Creating cohesive fighting units cannot be accomplished overnight. Replacing individual combat casualties in Ukraine with recalled reservists who have gone years without military training is unlikely to dramatically increase Russian combat power.
[1] The Future of the Russian Military
[2] The Future of the Russian Military
[3] https://www dot kp.ru/putevoditel/obrazovanie/vesennij-prizyv/; https://www dot interfax.ru/russia/794657
[4] http://publication dot pravo.gov.ru/Document/View/0001202202180067; https://nv. Dot ua/world/geopolitics/rossiya-prodolzhaet-styagivat-voyska-k-granice-s-ukrainoy-analitik-cit-na-radio-nv-50205189.html; https://vk dot tatarstan.ru/index.htm/news/2000133.htm
[5] https://www dot kp.ru/putevoditel/obrazovanie/vesennij-prizyv/; Timebomb 2000. Dot consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_18260/673dfb400c48363d58052a3dd0e762af36f38979/
[6] Timebomb 2000 dot consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_18260/
[7] https://www dot interfax.ru/russia/794657; https://ria dot ru/20210930/trebovaniya-1752464085.html
[8] https://iz dot ru/1036012/2020-07-16/v-rossii-zavershilsia-vesennii-prizyv; https://tvzvezda dot ru/news/202012311053-F2LZR.html; https://iz dot ru/960313/video/osennii-prizyv-v-armiiu-zavershaetsia-v-rossii
[9] https://intumen dot ru/armiya/god-v-armii.html?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F
[10] http://pravo dot gov.ru/proxy/ips/?docbody=&nd=102053139#:~:text=%D0%A1%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%83%D1%81%20%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BB%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B0%D1%89%D0%B8%D1%85%20%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8C%20%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%BA%D1%83%D0%BF%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8C%20%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B2,2.
[11] https://www dot cnn.com/2022/02/25/europe/russia-ukraine-military-comparison-intl/index.html; How Do the Militaries of Russia and Ukraine Stack Up?; https://gogov dot ru/articles/population-ru/military; The Future of the Russian Military
[12] The Best or Worst of Both Worlds?; https://www.dia.mil/Portals/110/Ima...cations/Russia_Military_Power_Report_2017.pdf
[13] The Best or Worst of Both Worlds?
[14] https://www.chathamhouse.org/sites/...-20-russian-state-mobilization-monaghan-2.pdf
[15] https://understandingwar-my.sharepo...tAtUAswnUxdmQBwm0bkwsaGMESiVAyLNTbnA?e=abfgqR;
[16] https://news dot vtomske.ru/news/187931-eto-ne-podgotovka-k-voine-tomskii-voenkom-poyasnil-zachem-armiya-uvelichivaet-lyudskoi-rezerv
[17] Российская армия увеличивает людской резерв. Зачем? - BBC News Русская служба
[18] https://novochgrad dot ru/texts/help/id/40825.html ; https://republic dot ru/posts/101526?fbclid=IwAR300FtWIKzIZHnRTSNZnx7Z3D4fhyvhDQL7tC1Fdo-iP-0WRhcplHSbQz4
[19] Российская армия увеличивает людской резерв. Зачем? - BBC News Русская служба; https://www dot ng.ru/armies/2021-12-24/11_8335_army5.html
[20] https://www dot admnkz.info/web/guest/news/one/-/asset_publisher/JE0WkfMvNUCn/content/id/3671290
[21] https://www dot interfax-russia.ru/south-and-north-caucasus/report/boevoy-armeyskiy-rezervnyy-sostav-sozdadut-v-yuzhnom-voennom-okruge-do-konca-avgusta
[22] Timebomb 2000 dot consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_18260/89c4b6f3cfb74e2fe8a1c3c7c523591031444778/
[23] https://www dot the-village.ru/people/the-question/rossiyanam-stali-prihodit-povestki-iz-voenkomata; https://sozd dot duma.gov.ru/bill/361804-7
[24] https://t dot me/istories_media/928
[25]
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View: https://www.facebook.com/GeneralStaff.ua/posts/265329312446821

[26] https://t dot me/wwwagentsmedia/649
[27] https://t dot me/wwwagentsmedia/649
[28] https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/24/world/europe/ukraine-war-military.html
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Explainer on Russian Conscription, Reserve, and Mobilization

www.criticalthreats.org www.criticalthreats.org
 
jward

jward

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Lavrov: Donetsk, Lugansk, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions have the right to self-determination in accordance with the UN Charter.

Lavrov: Russian-American dialogue is practically frozen because of Washington.
 
W

Walrus

Veteran Member
jward said:
The Russian Armed Forces sought to create exclusively reservist units but likely did not accomplish its goals due to low engagement.[21] The Russian Defense Ministry hoped to recruit more than 100,000 reservists starting in August 2021, but it is unlikely the Kremlin was able to achieve its goals on such a short timeline.
Mobilization

Current law limits mobilization of reserves to soldiers and sailors younger than 45 and officers younger than 55. Men who transferred to the reserve less than two years ago, fathers of three or more children, and those with criminal records are also exempt from mobilization under current law.[22] The Russian State Duma adopted a bill on February 22 to strengthen general mobilization, making it mandatory for men to appear at a military commissar’s office without receiving a conscription notice from regional authorities.[23] This law will reduce the administrative time needed to enlist conscripts if the Kremlin announces martial law. Russian independent media source Vazhnye Istorii explained that the Russian military can activate both reservists and new conscripts during general mobilization, including those previously exempted from conscription.[24] In the event of a general mobilization, the Russian Army will likely attempt to fill the ranks of nascent reserve units and backfill combat casualties from units already serving in Ukraine.
The Russian cadre-and-reserve units concentrated around Ukraine before the invasion almost certainly required a significant reserve call-up to fill out. As the ground offensive in Ukraine stalls, the Russian military likely faces a requirement for a new reserve call up to fill out additional units and replace individual losses in these units. There is reporting as of March 5 that 3,000 individual replacements are being mobilized across the Russian border from Kharkiv to replace combat losses in Russian units.[25]

As early as December 2021, the Russian Committee for Soldier’s Mothers claimed that newly signed reservists and contractors started deploying to units near the Ukrainian border.[26] The Committee claimed that the new reservists arrived in Belgorod Oblast to the following units: Training Military unit in Kovrov (unit number 306616), 752nd Motorized Rifle Regiment (Valuyki), 3rd Motorized Rifle Division (Boguchar, Valuyki), 4th Guards Tank Division, and 2nd Guards Motor Rifle Division.[27] US officials also note that Russian reservists will be integrated across all 120-125 battalion tactical groups following the initial invasion.[28]
Conclusion
Russia is likely rapidly exhausting the manpower it can readily use to generate additional effective combat power even as its forces lose combat effectiveness in Ukraine amid high losses. Russian efforts to mobilize more manpower can bring more people into Russian combat units, but those people are unlikely to be well-enough trained or motivated to generate large amounts of new combat power.

Mobilization efforts are likely to start producing diminishing returns as Russia moves through the categories of fully-trained and recently-released reservists into categories of people further removed from their initial military experiences and/or those who will undergo hasty training before deployment to the front lines. Individual replacements for battlefield losses are unlikely to have the same training as their predecessors, and new units or those reinforced by these augmentees will not have undergone unit-level training prior to employment. More units and reservist replacements will likely appear in Ukraine, therefore, but the net effect on Russia’s actual combat capability will likely be small and diminishing.
A declaration of martial law and general mobilization would not overcome the structural challenges of Russia’s hybrid cadre-and-reserves and contract-soldier system. Creating cohesive fighting units cannot be accomplished overnight. Replacing individual combat casualties in Ukraine with recalled reservists who have gone years without military training is unlikely to dramatically increase Russian combat power.
[1] The Future of the Russian Military
[2] The Future of the Russian Military
[3] https://www dot kp.ru/putevoditel/obrazovanie/vesennij-prizyv/; https://www dot interfax.ru/russia/794657
[4] http://publication dot pravo.gov.ru/Document/View/0001202202180067; https://nv. Dot ua/world/geopolitics/rossiya-prodolzhaet-styagivat-voyska-k-granice-s-ukrainoy-analitik-cit-na-radio-nv-50205189.html; https://vk dot tatarstan.ru/index.htm/news/2000133.htm
[5] https://www dot kp.ru/putevoditel/obrazovanie/vesennij-prizyv/; Timebomb 2000. Dot consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_18260/673dfb400c48363d58052a3dd0e762af36f38979/
[6] Timebomb 2000 dot consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_18260/
[7] https://www dot interfax.ru/russia/794657; https://ria dot ru/20210930/trebovaniya-1752464085.html
[8] https://iz dot ru/1036012/2020-07-16/v-rossii-zavershilsia-vesennii-prizyv; https://tvzvezda dot ru/news/202012311053-F2LZR.html; https://iz dot ru/960313/video/osennii-prizyv-v-armiiu-zavershaetsia-v-rossii
[9] https://intumen dot ru/armiya/god-v-armii.html?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F
[10] http://pravo dot gov.ru/proxy/ips/?docbody=&nd=102053139#:~:text=%D0%A1%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%83%D1%81%20%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BB%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B0%D1%89%D0%B8%D1%85%20%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8C%20%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%BA%D1%83%D0%BF%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8C%20%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B2,2.
[11] https://www dot cnn.com/2022/02/25/europe/russia-ukraine-military-comparison-intl/index.html; How Do the Militaries of Russia and Ukraine Stack Up?; https://gogov dot ru/articles/population-ru/military; The Future of the Russian Military
[12] The Best or Worst of Both Worlds?; https://www.dia.mil/Portals/110/Ima...cations/Russia_Military_Power_Report_2017.pdf
[13] The Best or Worst of Both Worlds?
[14] https://www.chathamhouse.org/sites/...-20-russian-state-mobilization-monaghan-2.pdf
[15] https://understandingwar-my.sharepo...tAtUAswnUxdmQBwm0bkwsaGMESiVAyLNTbnA?e=abfgqR;
[16] https://news dot vtomske.ru/news/187931-eto-ne-podgotovka-k-voine-tomskii-voenkom-poyasnil-zachem-armiya-uvelichivaet-lyudskoi-rezerv
[17] Российская армия увеличивает людской резерв. Зачем? - BBC News Русская служба
[18] https://novochgrad dot ru/texts/help/id/40825.html ; https://republic dot ru/posts/101526?fbclid=IwAR300FtWIKzIZHnRTSNZnx7Z3D4fhyvhDQL7tC1Fdo-iP-0WRhcplHSbQz4
[19] Российская армия увеличивает людской резерв. Зачем? - BBC News Русская служба; https://www dot ng.ru/armies/2021-12-24/11_8335_army5.html
[20] https://www dot admnkz.info/web/guest/news/one/-/asset_publisher/JE0WkfMvNUCn/content/id/3671290
[21] https://www dot interfax-russia.ru/south-and-north-caucasus/report/boevoy-armeyskiy-rezervnyy-sostav-sozdadut-v-yuzhnom-voennom-okruge-do-konca-avgusta
[22] Timebomb 2000 dot consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_18260/89c4b6f3cfb74e2fe8a1c3c7c523591031444778/
[23] https://www dot the-village.ru/people/the-question/rossiyanam-stali-prihodit-povestki-iz-voenkomata; https://sozd dot duma.gov.ru/bill/361804-7
[24] https://t dot me/istories_media/928
[25]
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View: https://www.facebook.com/GeneralStaff.ua/posts/265329312446821

[26] https://t dot me/wwwagentsmedia/649
[27] https://t dot me/wwwagentsmedia/649
[28] https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/24/world/europe/ukraine-war-military.html
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Explainer on Russian Conscription, Reserve, and Mobilization

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Along your line of discussion and recruiting with this partial mobilization announcement and the reasons for it, people don't seem to understand the Wagner Group of contract mercenaries and how they're being used. They're often referred to as "the mysterious Wagner Group" although I don't see the big mystery.

Here's a couple of videos - the first one is the head of Wagner explaining the recruiting process to a group of prisoners in a Russian prison, and the next one is a battlefield talk from some of the previous recruits - kind of a recruiting video, I guess.

Wagner is used as one of Russia's premier offensive units and is presently engaged in the drive to take Bahkmut, I think.

Head Of Wagner PMC Recruits New Fighters From Russian Prisons

Ex-Convicts Who Signed Up To Wagner For Their Freedom Make Statement
 
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somewherepress said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1572645005889765378
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If Russia uses nuclear weapons in Ukraine, the US will destroy the Black Sea Fleet, - Former Commander of US Forces in Europe, Lieutenant General Hodges #BreakingNews #RussianArmy #Ukraine️ #Russia #UkraineRussiaWar
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Very, very believable . . .
which is precisely why people with a vision of this starting with a limited tactical nuclear exchange of some sort are liberals regardless of the smug smile on Hodges face.
 
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Sadly, this makes sense.

America is being destroyed by the WEF's drive for socialism.

The rats are scrambling off the ship and trying to form a new non-western alliance.
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C'mon, man!

Surely, von Koehler we have enough drag queens, social justice warriors, non binary sexual activists and BLM parasites to take on anything the Rooskies and Chinese want to throw at us, right?

If that's not enough, we can throw in a few destroyers filled with leftist academics and Democrat Party election riggers! Maybe we can toss in some Brady anti-gun activists to make sure that US troops don't learn to shoot and can't use real bullets!

America is in fine shape, dude.

I'm sure we'll be just fine...

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somewherepress said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1572645005889765378
View: https://twitter.com/MadhawTiwari/status/1572645005889765378


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If Russia uses nuclear weapons in Ukraine, the US will destroy the Black Sea Fleet, - Former Commander of US Forces in Europe, Lieutenant General Hodges #BreakingNews #RussianArmy #Ukraine️ #Russia #UkraineRussiaWar
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This guy is retired.

Who in the living hell is he to say what our current nuclear retaliation doctrine is?

Maybe this gung ho bastard should go man the trenches in Ukraine and show us all how it is done?
 
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I am a Ukrainian. My country has been invaded by Russia. In this video I will tell you what happened on the two hundred and tenth day of the war.

Day 210: September 21

Today two significant decisions were made by Putin. Firstly, he announced that the Russian Federation would support the results of the referenda that are taking place in the Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions. Secondly, he announced partial mobilization.

The implications of these decisions are far-reaching, both for the Russians and the Ukrainians. In this video, I will tell you exactly how the Russians will suffer and benefit from these decisions and how the Ukrainians will suffer and benefit from them as well.

First, no one expected Putin to announce mobilization and prohibit leaving the country for those who fulfil the requirements. That is why today, people went to the streets from Moscow to the Far East to protest. Even though it only concerned those in reserve, everyone sees where this is going. Everyone knows that Kremlin recently passed a law that dramatically increased penalties for desertion, refusing conscription orders, and insubordination. On average, people will get around ten years’ imprisonment term.

Secondly, the Russians already struggle to give proper equipment to those already fighting. That is also one of the main reasons why nobody expected mobilization. Kremlin received a backlash even after announcing volunteer recruitment campaigns. Former Security Minister of the Donetsk People’s Republic called on Russia’s military command to better supply existing units on the ground.

Nonetheless, Kremlin is still solving many problems they are facing now. First, as I alluded to in my previous video, by acknowledging the result of referenda and being willing to support the results, Putin can immediately increase the number of troops on the ground. Russian law does not allow the deployment of conscripts without training overseas. However, by declaring some parts of Ukraine Russian territory, Putin can immediately deploy conscripts to the front line in the Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions. This might allow to effectively stop the Ukrainian offensive operation.

Secondly, the Russians are solving their chronic problem of lack of forces. And even though it will not happen overnight, in 3 to 6 months, the Russians can deploy from 300 to 400 thousand more troops. This will allow to eliminate a lot of weak links that the Ukrainians learnt to find and exploit. This will also mean that there will be more forces actually to fight, because the conscripts will probably be assigned some passive work connected with logistics, which will free up the contractors that can actually be sent to storm Ukrainian positions.

The Ukrainians also gain a few opportunities. Firstly, Kremlin has already lost much of its trust from people by consistently failing to achieve its objectives and, more recently, by being completely demolished in the battle for Izyum. If the Ukrainians manage to disrupt the referenda or conduct their own, this will further undermine Russian plans. As you can see, the Ukrainians already control half of the Donetsk region, so they can say that the result of their referendum here is as valid. They can also launch a counteroffensive in the Zaporizhzhia region, and even if they do not manage to disrupt the referendum, by controlling a significant portion of it and the regional center, they can conduct their own referendum as well. Such a political defeat will increase the tensions inside Russia even more because people will say: well, why should we fight there if the referenda show that they do not want to be a part of Russia? Moreover, the Ukrainians have a really good potential in the Luhansk and Zaporizhzhia regions. In fact, many sources suggest that the Ukrainians are preparing their final blow to the Lyman agglomeration to crush it and collapse the front line tens of kilometers east.

Even though the Ukrainians will not have such a stark manpower superiority in the long term because the Russians will have many more troops, it is also important to note that the Ukrainians will stand against less equipped men. And given that the Russians try to leverage their equipment superiority, the Ukrainians might have an opportunity to exploit new weaknesses that will stem from the inability of the Russians to leverage something that they got used to relying on so heavily but which they no longer have.

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21 Sep: Russian Mobilization BACKFIRES BADLY | War in Ukraine Explained

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somewherepress said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1572645005889765378
View: https://twitter.com/MadhawTiwari/status/1572645005889765378


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If Russia uses nuclear weapons in Ukraine, the US will destroy the Black Sea Fleet, - Former Commander of US Forces in Europe, Lieutenant General Hodges #BreakingNews #RussianArmy #Ukraine️ #Russia #UkraineRussiaWar
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If Russia uses nuclear weapons in Ukraine, the US will destroy the Black Sea Fleet, - Former Commander of US Forces in Europe, Lieutenant General Hodges

I hope that Lt General Hodges realizes that destroying the Russian Black Sea Fleet would mean full scale war between the US and Russia.
 
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northern watch said:
If Russia uses nuclear weapons in Ukraine, the US will destroy the Black Sea Fleet, - Former Commander of US Forces in Europe, Lieutenant General Hodges

I hope that Lt General Hodges realizes that destroying the Russian Black Sea Fleet would mean full scale war between the US and Russia.
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remember that phrase "Loose lips sink ships?"
this is an example.
it is pretty scary that this is the quality of senior leadership the military is turning out.
 
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raven said:
remember that phrase "Loose lips sink ships?"
this is an example.
it is pretty scary that this is the quality of senior leadership the military is turning out.
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No he is naming the initial consequence to a Russian nuclear strike. There are no operational details other than the target. I expect there would be additional targets hit in the region too depending on the situation.
 
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