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jward

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Russian politician threatens Alaska, says 'we can claim it back'
The chairman of the Russian State Duma warned that Russia could claim Alaska if the US tries to "dispose of our resources."
By JERUSALEM POST STAFF
Published: JULY 6, 2022 20:39
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 Statue of US Secretary of State William Seward at the Alaska State Capitol building , Juneau, Alaska. (photo credit: Gillfoto/Wikimedia Commons)

Statue of US Secretary of State William Seward at the Alaska State Capitol building , Juneau, Alaska.
(photo credit: Gillfoto/Wikimedia Commons)



Chairman of the Russian State Duma Vyacheslav Volodin warned that Russia could demand Alaska back if the US continues to seize Russian resources abroad on Wednesday.

"Decency is not a weakness. We always have something a response. Let America always remember that there is part of its territory, Alaska. When they start trying to dispose of our resources abroad, before doing so, let them think that we also have something to claim back," said Volodin.

A territorial feud
The Russian politician referred to a threat he made earlier to denounce a maritime treaty between Norway and Russia after some shipments were blocked from traveling through Norway's waters, saying that Norway then allowed the shipments to go through.




"Imagine if we also instructed [about Alaska] - you look, and America would start supplying fish where it should be," said Volodin, according to RIA Novosti.
"Imagine if we also instructed [about Alaska] - you look, and America would start supplying fish where it should be."
Chairman of the Russian State Duma Vyacheslav Volodin

Volodin also stressed that Russia does not interfere in America's affairs, saying that American politicians have been blaming Russia for everything that is happening in the country.

Russia's State Duma Speaker Vyacheslav Volodin attends a military parade on Victory Day, which marks the 77th anniversary of the victory over Nazi Germany in World War Two, in Red Square in central Moscow, Russia May 9, 2022. (credit: REUTERS/MAXIM SHEMETOV)
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Russia's State Duma Speaker Vyacheslav Volodin attends a military parade on Victory Day, which marks the 77th anniversary of the victory over Nazi Germany in World War Two, in Red Square in central Moscow, Russia May 9, 2022. (credit: REUTERS/MAXIM SHEMETOV)
Russia colonized Alaska in the late 1700s but sold the territory to the US in 1867.

In recent months, Russian politicians have made a number of statements threatening to rescind treaties and agreements with multiple countries.
 

jward

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Putin: Russia 'has not started anything seriously in Ukraine'. 'We haven't really started anything yet.'

'We have heard many times that the West wants to fight us to the last Ukrainian. This is a tragedy for the Ukrainian people, but it seems that everything is heading towards this.

'The West is degenerating into totalitarianism. It has failed in its new attempt to contain Russia. We are now in the start of a transition to a multi-polar world.'

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Putin says if West wants to defeat Russia on battlefield, 'let them try' - Insider Paper
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President Vladimir Putin on Thursday that the West could try to defeat Russia “on the battlefield” and said Moscow’s intervention in Ukraine marked a shift to a “multi-polar world.”
“Today we hear that they want to defeat us on the battlefield. Well, what can you say here? Let them try,” Putin told senior lawmakers.
He accused “the collective West” of unleashing a “war” in Ukraine and said Russia’s intervention in the pro-Western country marked the beginning of a shift to a “multi-polar world.”
 

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5m

Putin: Russia 'has not started anything seriously in Ukraine'. 'We haven't really started anything yet.'

'We have heard many times that the West wants to fight us to the last Ukrainian. This is a tragedy for the Ukrainian people, but it seems that everything is heading towards this.

'The West is degenerating into totalitarianism. It has failed in its new attempt to contain Russia. We are now in the start of a transition to a multi-polar world.'

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Putin says if West wants to defeat Russia on battlefield, 'let them try' - Insider Paper
AFP

1 minute



President Vladimir Putin on Thursday that the West could try to defeat Russia “on the battlefield” and said Moscow’s intervention in Ukraine marked a shift to a “multi-polar world.”
“Today we hear that they want to defeat us on the battlefield. Well, what can you say here? Let them try,” Putin told senior lawmakers.
He accused “the collective West” of unleashing a “war” in Ukraine and said Russia’s intervention in the pro-Western country marked the beginning of a shift to a “multi-polar world.”
Duduman draws near
 

Doc1

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[QUOTE="jward, post: Russian politician threatens Alaska, says 'we can claim it back'
The chairman of the Russian State Duma warned that Russia could claim Alaska if the US tries to "dispose of our resources."


Alaska Sue, if you're out there please tell us that you're not practicing your Russian and learning the Cyrillic aplphabet!!!

Best
Doc ;-)
 

raven

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Russian politician threatens Alaska, says 'we can claim it back'
The chairman of the Russian State Duma warned that Russia could claim Alaska if the US tries to "dispose of our resources."
By JERUSALEM POST STAFF
Published: JULY 6, 2022 20:39
Email Twitter Facebook fb-messenger
 Statue of US Secretary of State William Seward at the Alaska State Capitol building , Juneau, Alaska. (photo credit: Gillfoto/Wikimedia Commons)

Statue of US Secretary of State William Seward at the Alaska State Capitol building , Juneau, Alaska.
(photo credit: Gillfoto/Wikimedia Commons)



Chairman of the Russian State Duma Vyacheslav Volodin warned that Russia could demand Alaska back if the US continues to seize Russian resources abroad on Wednesday.

"Decency is not a weakness. We always have something a response. Let America always remember that there is part of its territory, Alaska. When they start trying to dispose of our resources abroad, before doing so, let them think that we also have something to claim back," said Volodin.

A territorial feud
The Russian politician referred to a threat he made earlier to denounce a maritime treaty between Norway and Russia after some shipments were blocked from traveling through Norway's waters, saying that Norway then allowed the shipments to go through.




"Imagine if we also instructed [about Alaska] - you look, and America would start supplying fish where it should be," said Volodin, according to RIA Novosti.


Volodin also stressed that Russia does not interfere in America's affairs, saying that American politicians have been blaming Russia for everything that is happening in the country.

Russia's State Duma Speaker Vyacheslav Volodin attends a military parade on Victory Day, which marks the 77th anniversary of the victory over Nazi Germany in World War Two, in Red Square in central Moscow, Russia May 9, 2022. (credit: REUTERS/MAXIM SHEMETOV)'s State Duma Speaker Vyacheslav Volodin attends a military parade on Victory Day, which marks the 77th anniversary of the victory over Nazi Germany in World War Two, in Red Square in central Moscow, Russia May 9, 2022. (credit: REUTERS/MAXIM SHEMETOV)
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Russia's State Duma Speaker Vyacheslav Volodin attends a military parade on Victory Day, which marks the 77th anniversary of the victory over Nazi Germany in World War Two, in Red Square in central Moscow, Russia May 9, 2022. (credit: REUTERS/MAXIM SHEMETOV)
Russia colonized Alaska in the late 1700s but sold the territory to the US in 1867.

In recent months, Russian politicians have made a number of statements threatening to rescind treaties and agreements with multiple countries.

How funny.
Now they are just tweaking his backside.
Where is Rodney Dangerfield when you need him (I get no respect)
hahaha
 

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Ukraine Says Western Weapons Begin to Help as It Raises Flag on Snake Island; President Zelensky urges speedy air-defense deliveries to protect Ukraine against Russian missile strikes

Thursday, July 7, 2022, 6:03 PM ET
By Yaroslav Trofimov
Wall Street Journal

Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky said that Western heavy weapons are starting to have an effect on the battlefield but urged speedier deliveries, particularly of antiaircraft systems, as Russia continued lobbing missiles into Ukrainian cities.

While heavy fighting continued in the eastern Donbas region, Ukrainian troops disembarked on the contested Snake Island in the Black Sea and planted a Ukrainian flag on it for the first time since Russia seized the island in February, according to footage posted Thursday by Kyiv.

Russian forces withdrew from Snake Island last week, after coming under long-range missile and artillery barrages that were enabled by Western military supplies. The island controls shipping lanes in the Black Sea that Ukraine hopes to reopen to export its agricultural goods.

It wasn’t clear whether any Ukrainian personnel remained on the tiny island after reclaiming it. Two Russian missiles struck Snake Island’s landing pier Thursday, according to the Ukrainian regional administration. Russia’s Defense Ministry said its aircraft killed some of the Ukrainian troops on the island while the rest fled to the mainland near Odessa. Ukraine’s military denied Russian claims that any of its soldiers were hit on Snake Island.

The U.S. and allies have sent close to 200 NATO-standard 155 mm howitzers to Ukraine in the past two months, helping offset Russia’s huge firepower advantage, and have started delivering Himars multiple-launch rocket systems that Kyiv in recent days successfully used to strike weapons depots and fuel-storage facilities across Russian-held parts of Donbas.

“We finally feel that the Western artillery that we received from our partners is working very powerfully. Its precision really is at the level that we need,” Mr. Zelensky said in a late Wednesday address. “Our defenders carry out painful strikes against warehouses and other important logistic nodes of the occupiers. And this materially lowers the offensive potential of the Russian army.”

Ukraine, however, has yet to receive sophisticated air-defense systems that it says could protect its cities from Russian missile strikes.

Germany earlier this year promised a citywide Iris-T air-defense system, and the U.S. in its latest aid announcement said it would provide two Nasams air-defense systems. Unlike most other heavy weapons supplied by the U.S., the Nasams won’t be drawn down from existing U.S. military stocks but will have to be purchased from the manufacturer, a process that the Pentagon said could take months.

“Regardless of how the war develops on the battlefield, the priority is the defense of the skies,” Mr. Zelensky said. “We count on the arrival in Ukraine of powerful air-defense systems. This is important because it would allow women and children to return home.”

Millions of Ukrainians, mostly women and children, fled the country after Russia invaded in February, and most of them remain abroad because even cities far away from the front lines, such as Kyiv, Odessa and Lviv, are regularly hit by Russian missiles that kill civilians. Some 22 people died in a Russian missile strike that hit a shopping mall in the central city of Kremenchuk last week.

While Ukraine uses a combination of Soviet-designed air-defense systems such as the S-300 and Western-provided tactical antiaircraft missiles such as Stingers to keep Russian warplanes from operating deep inside Ukrainian airspace, it is able to shoot down only a part of the long-range cruise missiles that Russia is firing from several hundred miles away.

One of these missiles struck a grains warehouse near Odessa overnight, according to the local administration. In the northeastern city of Kharkiv, a Russian missile strike Wednesday destroyed a university campus.

Near Odessa, a Russian air-to-surface missile Thursday hit an abandoned Moldovan-flagged tanker, Millennial Spirit, in the open sea, the Ukrainian military said. The tanker, which had a small amount of diesel on board, caught fire.

In Donbas, Russian forces continued an assault on Ukrainian defenses near the towns of Slovyansk, Siversk and Bakhmut after consolidating control over the city of Lysychansk, captured last week, according to the Ukrainian military. Ukrainian Himars strikes on Russian ammunition depots in the region sought to undermine that offensive.

In Ukrainian-controlled parts of the Donetsk region, which together with the Luhansk region makes up Donbas, seven civilians were killed by Russian shelling on Wednesday, according to Pavlo Kyrylenko, head of Ukrainian military administration for Donetsk.

A Russian missile hit the center of the city of Kramatorsk in the northern Donetsk region, Mr. Kyrylenko said Thursday, leaving at least one person dead, wounding others and damaging six buildings including a hotel and a residential high-rise building.

The missile landed in the courtyard of residential buildings, blowing out their window frames and killing a middle-aged man who sat at a picnic table smoking a cigarette. Residents said that Ukrainian soldiers had lately been staying at the hotel.

Mr. Kyrylenko also posted Thursday that Avdiivka has been under continuous shelling by Russian forces and that at least one person was killed. He urged people to evacuate.

While Russia continues to attack Ukrainian positions, it has not announced new territory gains since July 3, when it seized Lysychansk and completed its takeover of the Luhansk region.

The subsequent lack of movement suggests that Russian forces are taking an operational pause, confining troops to relatively small-scale offensive actions, according to a Wednesday evening assessment by the Washington-based Institute for the Study of War. Russia, which has lost significant manpower and weaponry during the Donbas offensive, is likely rebuilding combat power to attempt future assaults, ISW said.

Mr. Zelensky met on Thursday with Sens. Lindsey Graham (R., S.C.) and Richard Blumenthal (D., Conn.) in Kyiv to discuss U.S. support and the continuing battle to recapture occupied Ukrainian territory. A readout of the meeting from Mr. Zelensky’s office said they discussed the potential for increasing sanctions against Russia. Messrs. Graham and Blumenthal also talked about discussions within the Senate to recognize the Russian Federation as a state sponsor of terrorism, the readout said.

The Russian invasion has triggered a campaign throughout Ukraine to remove references to Russia, such as streets named after Moscow or Russian writers and politicians. In the central Ukrainian town of Pereyaslav, where Ukrainian Cossack leader Bohdan Khmelnytsky pledged allegiance to the Russian czar in 1654, municipal officials Thursday removed a monumental sculpture that commemorated the “eternal” union between Russia and Ukraine.

Even before the removal, the monument’s pedestal was spray-painted with the names of Ukrainian cities where large numbers of civilians died as a result of the Russian invasion: Bucha, Mariupol, Irpin, Kharkiv and Hostomel.

Write to Yaroslav Trofimov at yaroslav.trofimov@wsj.com

Ukraine Says Western Weapons Begin to Help as It Raises Flag on Snake Island - WSJ
 

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Pro-Russian sources are spreading the story that Ukraine sold 2 French Caesar howitzers into Russian hands This is catching fire in the Russian media, as the Prigozhin-aligned Federal News Agency that Ukraine would even sell F-35s to Russia if they got them from the US
 

Walrus

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Walrus

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After WW3 it will become part of Mother Russia.
Seward bought it fair and square! LOL If the Russkies knew they were giving up Prudhoe Bay and the Yukon, they'd definitely want it back even if it wasn't all depleted. There's still plenty of oil up there waiting to be discovered but it's mostly locked up by dot gov.

And Alaska is really the only place in the world which has properly managed its fisheries (as opposed to Canada and the lower 48). It's why their red salmon is still the world's best and their halibut ..... yum! And the Kenai kings are so much fun to fish for, and a big roast off of one of them is hard to beat.
 

Walrus

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Oh-oh, now this. WTF. He's crazy.

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He's not crazy; he's right on the money and telling it like it is. The two idiots Zelensky and Bai-Densky are cynically fighting to the last Ukrainian especially with Zelensky already having his millions, Florida mansion and shiny new British passport all set, and Bai-Den completely subject to his blackmail, but the Ukes are the ones dying out there. It could've ended months ago. Everyone who's died in this mess and who's about to die is dying for absolutely nothing but their greed.
 

tanstaafl

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Russian politician threatens Alaska, says 'we can claim it back'
The chairman of the Russian State Duma warned that Russia could claim Alaska if the US tries to "dispose of our resources."

At the height of their colonization there were still less than 1,000 Russians in the entire continental North America (Wikipedia says maybe 700 at best). With that kind of number any claim today sounds more like a little kid saying if they ever touched a thing that thing is still theirs.
 

Squid

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Essentially, President Vladimir Sh*t D*ck has seized control of the entire Russian private economy and nationalized it for his direct benefit.

I would not have expected less from a dyed in the wool Godless Communist like Putin. It's just a little surprising that we are still having this conversation in 2022.

Definitions,

Capitalism - Commerce and trade is owned and controlled by the private sector.

Socialism - Private commerce and trade is controlled by the government.

Communism - All commerce and trade is owned and controlled by the government.
But, but...

Putin isn’t Brandon so we love Putin don’t we??? I mean sure he’s a despotic thug filling his own pockets from kickbacks, jailing and killing opposition and journalists, and invading another country but he rides bears and stuff, and he is defintely not Brandon...
 

Red Baron

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But, but...

Putin isn’t Brandon so we love Putin don’t we??? I mean sure he’s a despotic thug filling his own pockets from kickbacks, jailing and killing opposition and journalists, and invading another country but he rides bears and stuff, and he is defintely not Brandon...

I'm detecting a wee bit of sarcasm?

I never did understand the love for Vladimir Sh*t D*ck as some kind of balancing force because one despised Brandon.
 
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