danielboon
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True but my point is we have idiots in charge of this country and they have no clue and some of the things they say are incredibly foolish
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danielboon
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Not really Duduman saw this long ago and it is all coming to pass
they do have a clue. they know it is false.
it is propaganda designed to prepare you for the inevitable.
so . . . is a negotiated settlement inevitable?
no.
then what is inevitable?
war.
Doomer Doug
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What is inevitable is ANOTHER new front has opened up with the collapse of the Monroe Doctrine.
1: Ukraine Eastern Europe
2. Baltic
3. Artic Norway
4. Latin America
CONUS
I'm telling ya doc1, you iz gonna neen that anti tank gun in your front yard.
1: Ukraine Eastern Europe
2. Baltic
3. Artic Norway
4. Latin America
CONUS
I'm telling ya doc1, you iz gonna neen that anti tank gun in your front yard.
northern watch
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A president with balls would start a flight over this!
Merde....It was on life support with Hezbollah/IRGC in Venezuela. This pretty much puts the cap on it.
It will be at least a generation until the South American countries who voted in these neo-maxist regimes even have a chance to correct this mistake.
Considering what we have been doing in Europe with NATO for years and with SK and Taiwan in Asia we really don't have room to complain when it hits close to home. Not saying it isn't an issue, but if we consider it an issue here, why wouldn't Russia, China and NK consider it an issue when it happens in their back yard.
Plain Jane
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Russia sent troops into Nicaragua in June for " humanitarian reasons ".
See post 22 of this thread:
INTL - Latin America and the Islands: Politics, Economics, Military- June 2022
May's thread: https://www.timebomb2000.com/xf/index.php?threads/latin-america-and-the-islands-politics-economics-military-may-2022.618843/ Main Coronavirus thread beginning page 1571: https://www.timebomb2000.com/xf/index.php?threads/main-coronavirus-thread.566780/page-1571...
Doomer Doug
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That picture of the duma looks like Hitler preaching at the Reichstag getting ready to invade Luxembourg. 
Or maybe the raving lunatics in Lithuania!
Or maybe the raving lunatics in Lithuania!
This is insane if this wasn’t the wasn’t the plan of a bunch of spoiled radicalized Euro old money brats and the WEF to bring down western society in the name of some vague utopia.
By the time these @$$hats realize they were played by the enemies of the west they will be crushed by the war machine and despotic rule of the invading ‘barbarians.’
Nothing but history cycling through..
I took that as an example of that horrible modern European architecture.
Imagine that! Why should Putin negotiate with someone when he's busy kicking their ass up between their shoulder blades?
This Bai-Densky regime is absolutely the biggest bunch of morons I've ever seen gathered into one group picture.
I've taken the luxury of naming the three main idiots Winken, Blinken and Stinken.
Winken: National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan, who has made the wrong call consistently for years in his career and knows it, and covers it with a "wink" on Sunday morning talk shows, because everyone knows he's lying through his teeth,
Blinken: Secretary of State and pretty much useless whipping boy for both allied and enemy foreign ministers, and who's so ignorant he thinks he's doing great, and finally
Stinken: Guess who! "Hey guys, that was a really juicy one a while back, wasn't it? Wait til you catch this next one; it'll put the Pope's audience wet one to shame".
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Just keep Zelensky in cocaine and he'll demand complete surrender until the Chechnyans hold a pistol to his head and Putin tells him that either his signature or his brain will be on that document in fifteen seconds.
he is just as likely to be appointed the next Commisar Governor of the Ukraine Oblast just because he held out so long
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Serbian Sniper In Donbass Explains The Power Of Mosin-Nagant Sniper Rifles
RT 03:07 bitchute video
First published at 05:06 UTC on July 5th, 2022
MOSIN RIFLES NOT AS OLD JUNK, BUT AS WORKING ANTIQUES. EXPLANATION FROM THE SERBIAN SNIPER DEKI.
I’ve been complaining that the reservists of Donbass are still armed with Mosin rifles from 1943. Sergei Shoigu told me himself that (they) supplied Kalashnikov machine guns a long time ago, and that Mosin rifles are kept as sniper weapons. I argued, but our Minister (of Defense) was right. The rifles get tricked out, and they are trending upward.
====Serbian sniper Deki,
A Sniper's War
(169)
4.2 1 h 25 min 2018 18+
Described as a "stealth invasion" of Ukraine, the proxy-war being waged in Donbass is a contentious conflict between pro-Russian separatists and the West. In the midst of swirling propaganda and controversy this brave doc follows Deki, a pro-Russian sniper tasked with defending his separatist comrades on the frontline of the conflict.
DirectorsOlya SchechterGenresSpecial Interest, Documentary, Military and War
on Amazon for $.99
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RT 03:07 bitchute video
First published at 05:06 UTC on July 5th, 2022
MOSIN RIFLES NOT AS OLD JUNK, BUT AS WORKING ANTIQUES. EXPLANATION FROM THE SERBIAN SNIPER DEKI.
I’ve been complaining that the reservists of Donbass are still armed with Mosin rifles from 1943. Sergei Shoigu told me himself that (they) supplied Kalashnikov machine guns a long time ago, and that Mosin rifles are kept as sniper weapons. I argued, but our Minister (of Defense) was right. The rifles get tricked out, and they are trending upward.
====Serbian sniper Deki,
A Sniper's War
(169)
4.2 1 h 25 min 2018 18+
Described as a "stealth invasion" of Ukraine, the proxy-war being waged in Donbass is a contentious conflict between pro-Russian separatists and the West. In the midst of swirling propaganda and controversy this brave doc follows Deki, a pro-Russian sniper tasked with defending his separatist comrades on the frontline of the conflict.
DirectorsOlya SchechterGenresSpecial Interest, Documentary, Military and War
on Amazon for $.99
Amazon.com: A Sniper's War : Olya Schechter, Olya Schechter: Prime Video
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Doc1
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I have long maintained that there are no obsolete rifles. There are only rifles which are more or less suitable for different jobs. The Mosin-Nagant rifles offer ballistics roughly comparable to the 30-06 and may be very accurate (depending on the specific example). They are also very reliable and simple machines. This worked to the Soviets advantage, with their largely peasant army in WWII (whose lives they expended with abandon).
The Soviets, like many other nations, tested the rifles as they came off of the assembly line and the most accurate examples were selected for sniper duty and received further attention.
Mosins used to be extremely cheap (remember the $69.99 SKS rifles?) and were a good bargain in a knock around rifle or truck gun. Those days have passed however and they are no longer cheap. I have owned Mosins and still keep one in my collection, but I'm much more of a Mauser guy.
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There's an excellent short version of this on bitchute where the snipers compare the Mosin-Nagants with the more modern Dragunovs:
Serbian Sniper In Donbass Explains The Power Of Mosin-Nagant Sniper Rifles
Doomer Doug
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Well biden's NATO seems hellfire bent on starting world
war three. Sweden and Finland have both been Neutral since 1940 at least.
NATO has provoked Russia since 1991 and we are now seeing the results of NATO warmongering from Georgia in the east of Russia to the Baltics and Arctic.
Prepare for the inevitable war, likely being set up with the collapse of our Monroe doctrine and the permanent depoyment of axis troops to Latin America.
war three. Sweden and Finland have both been Neutral since 1940 at least.
NATO has provoked Russia since 1991 and we are now seeing the results of NATO warmongering from Georgia in the east of Russia to the Baltics and Arctic.
Prepare for the inevitable war, likely being set up with the collapse of our Monroe doctrine and the permanent depoyment of axis troops to Latin America.
Finland became "neutral" after 1945 in exchange for the USSR not absorbing the rest of it.
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No country can survive its traitors. The democrat (And republican RINOs), leadership have proven that they are exactly that. With our current (CIA-directed) leadership the nation will not survive what is coming.
A war footing requires fuel.
This administration has been cutting fuel sources and driving prices up.
We are not going on a war footing - at least not to win.
I'm getting the feeling that a lot of the idiot savants "running things" in/through DC assume they can get what they want out of the world by waving around nukes. Swallwell and Biden both did this with regards to domestic political opposition which clearly showed their grasps upon power and its applications are grievously lacking.
With the continuing growth of "the Club", and the differing attitudes of the membership towards the value of human life and a palatable lack of leadership in DC, if something doesn't change soon things will get very bad.
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True. They are expending the lives of the Ukrainians.
Question: Russia going on a war footing......wouldn't that mean that factories switch from ......say....tires for cars to tires for military vehicles? Kind of thing. And to do that takes much governmental money, which the Russian government has been getting since the sanctions kicked in. Biden has made Russia rich I tell ya rich.
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Essentially, President Vladimir Sh*t D*ck has seized control of the entire Russian private economy and nationalized it for his direct benefit.
I would not have expected less from a dyed in the wool Godless Communist like Putin. It's just a little surprising that we are still having this conversation in 2022.
Definitions,
Capitalism - Commerce and trade is owned and controlled by the private sector.
Socialism - Private commerce and trade is controlled by the government.
Communism - All commerce and trade is owned and controlled by the government.
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Russian court orders halt to Caspian Pipeline oil loadings
European markets set to lose more than 1 million barrels per day of Kazakh oil later this month
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Russian court orders halt to Caspian Pipeline oil loadings
European markets set to lose more than 1 million barrels per day of Kazakh oil later this month
6 July 2022 11:16 GMT UPDATED 6 July 2022 11:16 GMT
By Vladimir Afanas
The Caspian Pipeline Consortium has been ordered to immediately halt oil tanker loadings and pumping operations at its marine terminal at the Russian Black Sea port off Novorossiysk, leaving European markets to prepare for the interruption of the delivery of over 1 million barrels per day of Kazakh crude.
The ruling was made on Tuesday by a regional court in Novorossiysk, which approved Russian transportation safety watchdog Rostransnadzor’s demand for a temporary halt in Caspian Pipeline’s operations, according to the operator.
The court rejected Caspian Pipeline’s request to postpone the hearings to prepare its defence against the demand, but reduced the length of the stoppage to 30 days from the 90 days requested by Rostransnadzor.
The operator said it will comply with the order once Russian bailiffs arrive at its premises at the terminal, which lies about 13 kilometres from Novorossiysk.
“Russian bailiffs may be slow”, a corporate lawyer in Moscow told Upstream.
Tanker loadings from the terminal were understood to be continuing uninterrupted on Wednesday morning, unidentified shipping sources told Reuters.
Caspian Pipeline said on Wednesday that it filed an appeal to postpone the court’s ruling, arguing that the stoppage “could lead to irreversible consequences for the production process”.
The lawyer in Moscow told Upstream that, under Russian laws governing a court-ordered halt of business operations, the appeal is just a “formality” and its submission may not delay the ordered stoppage.
However, the lawyer pointed out that Caspian Pipeline may file an appeal to the same court to restart operations before the 30-day stoppage period expires, provided it can prove that it rectified the deficiencies behind the reason for the halt.
Deficiencies in oil spill response
According to Rostransnadzor, earlier audits of Caspian Pipeline’s loading terminal by the agency and another state body, technical compliance watchdog Rostekhnadzor found faults in the operator’s oil spill response planning.
Caspian Pipeline said both agencies gave the operator until 30 November to remove the deficiencies and improve response measures, and did not indicate their intention to ask the courts to halt operations.
Kazakhstan Prime Minister Alikhan Ismailov held an urgent meeting with government ministers early on Wednesday about the stoppage, though the government’s press service was unable to provide details.
Caspian Pipeline carries Kazakh crude via its pipeline network across Russian territory to the export terminal at Novorossiysk, but is excluded from Western sanctions against Russia following the invasion of Ukraine, because its network remains the major export route for Kazakhstan’s foreign-led Tengiz, Kashagan and Karachaganak oil producing projects.
The operator is responsible for about 80% of oil exports from Kazakhstan, with the foreign led Tengiz, Kashagan and Karachaganak developments being its major customers. It also carries smaller amounts of oil from Russian oil producers Lukoil and Rosneft.
Lukoil has been using Caspian Pipeline’s facilities to export crude from its fields in the Russian sector of the Caspian Sea, while Rosneft has sent dedicated parcels of crude from West Siberia via the pipeline.
According to Kazakh oil industry analysts quoted by country’s industry social network channel Energy Monitor, alternative oil routes from the country can not be arranged immediately.
The country and its producers will have to invest into the expansion of alternative export options, such as cross-Caspian shipments to Azerbaijan with the ultimate goal of reaching European markets, oil swap arrangements with Iran and pipeline deliveries to China and Uzbekistan.
In April, Caspian Pipeline had to interrupt loadings to repair its tanker loading offshore buoys following damage caused by a heavy storm.
Loadings of oil were also restricted in June after Russian authorities ordered seabed surveys near the buoys.
Russian court orders halt to Caspian Pipeline oil loadings
European markets set to lose more than 1 million barrels per day of Kazakh oil later this month
Russian court orders halt to Caspian Pipeline oil loadings
European markets set to lose more than 1 million barrels per day of Kazakh oil later this month
6 July 2022 11:16 GMT UPDATED 6 July 2022 11:16 GMT
By Vladimir Afanas
The Caspian Pipeline Consortium has been ordered to immediately halt oil tanker loadings and pumping operations at its marine terminal at the Russian Black Sea port off Novorossiysk, leaving European markets to prepare for the interruption of the delivery of over 1 million barrels per day of Kazakh crude.
The ruling was made on Tuesday by a regional court in Novorossiysk, which approved Russian transportation safety watchdog Rostransnadzor’s demand for a temporary halt in Caspian Pipeline’s operations, according to the operator.
The court rejected Caspian Pipeline’s request to postpone the hearings to prepare its defence against the demand, but reduced the length of the stoppage to 30 days from the 90 days requested by Rostransnadzor.
The operator said it will comply with the order once Russian bailiffs arrive at its premises at the terminal, which lies about 13 kilometres from Novorossiysk.
“Russian bailiffs may be slow”, a corporate lawyer in Moscow told Upstream.
Tanker loadings from the terminal were understood to be continuing uninterrupted on Wednesday morning, unidentified shipping sources told Reuters.
Caspian Pipeline said on Wednesday that it filed an appeal to postpone the court’s ruling, arguing that the stoppage “could lead to irreversible consequences for the production process”.
The lawyer in Moscow told Upstream that, under Russian laws governing a court-ordered halt of business operations, the appeal is just a “formality” and its submission may not delay the ordered stoppage.
However, the lawyer pointed out that Caspian Pipeline may file an appeal to the same court to restart operations before the 30-day stoppage period expires, provided it can prove that it rectified the deficiencies behind the reason for the halt.
Deficiencies in oil spill response
According to Rostransnadzor, earlier audits of Caspian Pipeline’s loading terminal by the agency and another state body, technical compliance watchdog Rostekhnadzor found faults in the operator’s oil spill response planning.
Caspian Pipeline said both agencies gave the operator until 30 November to remove the deficiencies and improve response measures, and did not indicate their intention to ask the courts to halt operations.
Kazakhstan Prime Minister Alikhan Ismailov held an urgent meeting with government ministers early on Wednesday about the stoppage, though the government’s press service was unable to provide details.
Caspian Pipeline carries Kazakh crude via its pipeline network across Russian territory to the export terminal at Novorossiysk, but is excluded from Western sanctions against Russia following the invasion of Ukraine, because its network remains the major export route for Kazakhstan’s foreign-led Tengiz, Kashagan and Karachaganak oil producing projects.
The operator is responsible for about 80% of oil exports from Kazakhstan, with the foreign led Tengiz, Kashagan and Karachaganak developments being its major customers. It also carries smaller amounts of oil from Russian oil producers Lukoil and Rosneft.
Lukoil has been using Caspian Pipeline’s facilities to export crude from its fields in the Russian sector of the Caspian Sea, while Rosneft has sent dedicated parcels of crude from West Siberia via the pipeline.
According to Kazakh oil industry analysts quoted by country’s industry social network channel Energy Monitor, alternative oil routes from the country can not be arranged immediately.
The country and its producers will have to invest into the expansion of alternative export options, such as cross-Caspian shipments to Azerbaijan with the ultimate goal of reaching European markets, oil swap arrangements with Iran and pipeline deliveries to China and Uzbekistan.
In April, Caspian Pipeline had to interrupt loadings to repair its tanker loading offshore buoys following damage caused by a heavy storm.
Loadings of oil were also restricted in June after Russian authorities ordered seabed surveys near the buoys.
Wasnt it Kazakhstan that spoke out against the Russian invasion? Sucks when you are essentially landlocked.
Zagdid
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Russia’s Lavrov enjoys warm relations with Vietnam ahead of frosty reception in Bali
Vietnam reassures the Russian foreign minister a 10-year special relationship is only likely to get stronger.
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Russia’s Lavrov enjoys warm relations with Vietnam ahead of frosty reception in Bali
Vietnam reassures the Russian foreign minister a 10-year special relationship is only likely to get stronger.
By RFA Staff 2022.07.06
Russia’s Minister of Foreign Affairs Sergey Lavrov and counterpart Bui Thanh Son in Hanoi, July 6, 2022
UDPATED at 12:15 p.m. on 2022-07-06
Sergey Lavrov is on a two-day visit to Russia’s closest Southeast Asian ally, Vietnam, before heading to the G20 foreign ministers’ meeting where the welcome won't be as warm.
The Russian foreign minister held talks in Hanoi Wednesday before he travels to a G20 meeting in Bali, where Lavrov’s Canadian counterpart has warned she would not shake his hand.
Canada’s Foreign Affairs Minister Mélanie Joly told Canadian media she would instead “confront him with facts and expose Russia’s narrative for what it is: lies and disinformation” about the war in Ukraine.
Canada, alongside a number of Western countries, has imposed sanctions on Moscow for its invasion of Ukraine, now in its fifth month.
U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken is also expected to snub Lavrov in Bali, with the State Department saying "it cannot be business as usual with the Russian Federation.”
Vietnam on the other hand has repeatedly refused to condemn the Russian war and also objected to a U.S.-led effort to suspend Russia from the U.N. Human Rights Council.
Lavrov is the first Russian cabinet minister to visit Hanoi since President Vladimir Putin announced a “special military operation” against Ukraine in February. His visit is taking place as Hanoi and Moscow celebrate the 10th anniversary of the so-called “comprehensive strategic partnership” that Vietnam has forged with only three nations in the world.
Besides Russia, the two other comprehensive strategic partners are China and India.
‘The most important partner’
The Russian foreign minister and his Vietnamese host Bui Thanh Son held a meeting on Wednesday morning, during which Foreign Affairs Minister Son was quoted by Russian state media as saying that he’d like to “reassure you that Russia will always be our most important partner and the main priority in Vietnam’s policy.”
Son said he “deeply believed that with the high level of political trust and a long-term interest,” the Vietnam-Russia relationship would continue to develop.
Moscow is Hanoi’s traditional ally and its biggest arms supplier. Most Vietnamese weaponry used by the navy and air force was bought from Russia, leading to a future dependence on Russian maintenance and spare parts, despite efforts to diversify arms supplies.
A Russian presence in the South China Sea, where Beijing claims “historical rights” over almost 80 per cent, could also be seen as a counterweight for competing China-U.S. rivalry as well as keeping China’s aggression at bay, say analysts.
On June 25-28, three warships of the Russian Navy’s Pacific Fleet, led by the Udaloy-class anti-submarine destroyer Marshal Shaposhnikov, visited Cam Ranh in central Vietnam where Russia operated a major naval base until 2002.
Lavrov was quoted as telling his Vietnamese counterpart on Wednesday that “in the context of current world affairs, once again we should unite and strive to maintain international laws, the principle of national sovereignty and non-interference in other countries’ internal affairs.”
The full agenda of the Russian minister’s visit has not been disclosed but some analysts, such as Artyom Lukin, Deputy Director for Research at the School of Regional and International Studies at Russia’s Far Eastern Federal University, said boosting economic cooperation at a time when Moscow has been isolated and sanctioned would be one of the main topics.
“The Kremlin should already be more or less satisfied with Hanoi's position on the Ukraine crisis since Vietnam's stance all along has been strictly neutral,” Lukin said.
“Rather than securing Vietnam's political neutrality, which is already there, Moscow needs to ensure that Vietnam continues, and expands, economic links with Russia.”
Between a rock and a hard place
“What is important for Russia now is how to restructure economic ties, trade, cooperation in industry and technologies with the non-Western world,” said Fyodor Lukyanov, Chairman of the Presidium of the Russian Council for Foreign and Defense Policy.
“It is highly important for Russia to intensify all possible ties to find ways to avoid and bypass the economic warfare applied by the West,” said the Moscow-based analyst.
Lukin from the Far Eastern Federal University in Vladivostok pointed out that “amid Western sanctions, Asia and the Middle East are replacing Europe as Russia's main geo-economic partners.”
“Vietnam is the only ASEAN country to have a Free Trade Agreement with Moscow and Vietnam's economic significance for Russia will now grow substantially, both as a market in itself and as a gateway for Russia's business interactions with Asia,” he added.
Despite COVID-19, bilateral trade between Vietnam and Russia reached U.S.$5.54 billion in 2021, a 14-percent increase from the previous year, according to official statistics.
Yet the Ukrainian crisis that severely disrupted the global supply chain of food, fertilizer and energy has put Hanoi in an uneasy position.
Vietnam has established some important strategic links with foreign powers including the U.S. and Japan, both strongly opposed to the Russian war in Ukraine and both are considered supportive of Hanoi’s interests in the South China Sea.
Being seen as too close to Moscow would give Hanoi a disadvantage unless it could act as a go-between to mediate Russia’s interactions with the West, said a Vietnamese expert who didn’t want to be named as they are not authorized to speak to foreign media.
Vietnam also has to be watchful for Russia-China joint maritime activities that may hurt its interests in the South China Sea.
On Monday Chinese and Russian warships were spotted just outside Japanese territorial waters around the disputed, Japan-administered Senkaku Islands in the East China Sea.
Tokyo lodged a protest with Beijing about the incident that happened amid China's growing maritime assertiveness and increasingly robust China-Russia military ties, Kyodo News reported.
Chinese media responded that the Russian Navy's recent military activities in the West Pacific are a warning to Japan amid Japanese sanctions on Russia over the Ukraine crisis.
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Russia Says It Destroyed Two US-Supplied HIMARS Rocket Systems In Ukraine
Russia’s defense ministry announced Wednesday that its forces operating in Ukraine have destroyed two US-supplied rocket systems recently transferred to Ukrainian forces under authorization of the Biden administration.
In particular, Moscow is claiming it took out a pair of advanced High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS), which have served to greatly expand the targeting range of the Ukrainian army. Earlier in the war, Russia vowed to attack any foreign supplied weapons or convoys it finds on the battlefield, further saying it would hold the supplying nations "responsible".
US Army file image
There's as yet no independent confirmation, and it's unlikely that the Ukrainian side would confirm even if true. Kiev has reportedly denied it. If accurate, it would be a devastating rollback of efforts to give Kiev longer range rockets, given at this point the Ukrainians likely only possess less than half a dozen HIMARS. It also takes time to train the Ukrainians on the complicated mobile systems being transferred.
This could mean the destruction of half of the US-made HIMARS deployed by the Ukrainians. Reuters recounts, "Ukraine had received only four HIMARS systems as of early July, the European Council on Foreign Relations said in a report. The U.S. has pledged to deliver eight by mid-July."
Further according to Reuters, citing the Russian military:
Late last month, Ukraine said it destroyed a Russian command center using a HIMARS system...
The White House has been reluctant to increase the range of what it hands over to the Ukrainians, however, based on fears that such munitions could reach deep into Russian territory, which would mark an even greater escalation.
Russia Says It Destroyed Two US-Supplied HIMARS Rocket Systems In Ukraine | ZeroHedge
We need another 8......make it 16 Billion now.
Russia’s defense ministry announced Wednesday that its forces operating in Ukraine have destroyed two US-supplied rocket systems recently transferred to Ukrainian forces under authorization of the Biden administration.
In particular, Moscow is claiming it took out a pair of advanced High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS), which have served to greatly expand the targeting range of the Ukrainian army. Earlier in the war, Russia vowed to attack any foreign supplied weapons or convoys it finds on the battlefield, further saying it would hold the supplying nations "responsible".
US Army file imageThere's as yet no independent confirmation, and it's unlikely that the Ukrainian side would confirm even if true. Kiev has reportedly denied it. If accurate, it would be a devastating rollback of efforts to give Kiev longer range rockets, given at this point the Ukrainians likely only possess less than half a dozen HIMARS. It also takes time to train the Ukrainians on the complicated mobile systems being transferred.
This could mean the destruction of half of the US-made HIMARS deployed by the Ukrainians. Reuters recounts, "Ukraine had received only four HIMARS systems as of early July, the European Council on Foreign Relations said in a report. The U.S. has pledged to deliver eight by mid-July."
Further according to Reuters, citing the Russian military:
One war analyst, Samuel Ramani, commented that the Kremlin claim "underscores Russia's desire to specifically target HIMARS shipments from the US to Ukraine."
It also inches Russia and the US closer to potential direct conflict, given the likelihood that Russian forces appear to be actively hunting any foreign-supplied weaponry, especially longer range rocket systems.
Late last month, Ukraine said it destroyed a Russian command center using a HIMARS system...
The Ukrainians have meanwhile been urging Washington to supply systems even longer in range that the 50-mile capable HIMARS. According to CNN last month, "Ukrainian officials have asked for the missile defense system, known as a NASAMS system, given the weapons can hit targets more than 100 miles away, though the Ukrainian forces will likely need to be trained on the systems, a source said."
The White House has been reluctant to increase the range of what it hands over to the Ukrainians, however, based on fears that such munitions could reach deep into Russian territory, which would mark an even greater escalation.
Russia Says It Destroyed Two US-Supplied HIMARS Rocket Systems In Ukraine | ZeroHedge
We need another 8......make it 16 Billion now.
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Absolutely correct. The Finns were allied with Germany for most of WWII, only turning on them at the very end when German fortunes were waning. The Finnish-Soviet/Russian history is far more complicated than these few paragraphs can do justice, but part of their armistice with the Soviets was a requirement that they remain neutral.
IMHO, the Finns are playing a dangerous game by abandoning their neutrality after these many decades. The Finns fought bravely and well against the Soviets, but that was in the era before guided missiles and nuclear weapons. If the Finns get involved, even tangentially, in a nuclear exchange, their country would be little more than an asterisk in Russian targeting plans.
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When speaking of the Monroe Doctrine, it's almost always to tell every country not in this hemisphere to stay away. People tend to forget there is a quid pro quo in the Doctrine. It's essentially "stay on your side of the globe and we'll stay on ours".
It doesn't take much of a mental stretch to realize that the Monroe Doctrine has been busted dozens of times. The hard part is coming to the recognition that we's the ones who have most often busted it.
Doomer Doug
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The US kept European empires from setting up nations in Latin America. Latin America didn't look like the mideast, or Africa or Asia especially china carved up like a turkey
Biden has opened up South Americs for open colonization by china, russia and even shia iran.
China is taking over the bahama's for God's sake some 90 miles from our coastline.
Yep, watch them pour in like locusts.
Biden has opened up South Americs for open colonization by china, russia and even shia iran.
China is taking over the bahama's for God's sake some 90 miles from our coastline.
Yep, watch them pour in like locusts.
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