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U.S. intel chief says Russia is using up ammunition in Ukraine faster than it can replace it​

Putin has been “surprised” at the lackluster performance of his military but his political objectives for the war have not changed, the intelligence director said

Dec. 3, 2022, 5:37 PM PST
By Dan De Luce

Russian forces in Ukraine are burning through ammunition faster than the country’s defense industry can replace it, U.S. National Intelligence Director Avril Haines said Saturday.

Russia is using up ammunition “quite quickly,” prompting Moscow to look to other countries for help, including North Korea, Haines told NBC News’ Andrea Mitchell at a panel at the Reagan Defense Forum in Simi Valley, California.

Asked how fast Russia was using up ammunition, Haines said: “I don’t think I can give you precise numbers in this forum. But quite quickly. I mean, it’s really pretty extraordinary.”

She added: “And our own sense is that they are not capable of indigenously producing what they are expending at this stage.

So that is going to be a challenge.”

The Pentagon said last month that Russia is firing off a staggering 20,000 artillery rounds a day, even as it has suffered a series of setbacks on the battlefield. Echoing previous statements from Biden administration officials, Haines said that Russia was using up precision munitions even faster than its conventional ammunition.

The Biden administration previously said Russia has turned to North Korea to secure more supplies of artillery ammunition. Haines said that the extent of North Korea’s assistance appeared limited but that it was something the intelligence community would continue to monitor closely.

“We’ve indicated we’ve seen some movement, but it’s not been a lot at this stage,” she said of North Korea’s role.

The looming shortage of ammunition was just one of a number of challenges facing Russia’s military, Haines said, citing problems with morale and logistics as well.

The intelligence chief said that the tempo of the war in Ukraine appeared to be slowing down with the onset of winter and that both militaries would be trying to reset and regroup for more fighting in the spring. But she said the intelligence community had a “fair amount of skepticism” that Russian forces would be sufficiently prepared for renewed clashes in March.

Russian President Vladimir Putin was “surprised” at his military’s disappointing performance after its invasion of Ukraine in February, according to Haines.

“I do think he is becoming more informed of the challenges that the military faces in Russia. But it’s still not clear to us that he has a full picture at this stage of just how challenged they are,” Haines said.

Putin has not changed his political objective to effectively control Ukraine, but it is unclear whether he would accept scaled back military ambitions, Haines said.

“I think our analysts would say he may be willing to do that on a temporary basis with the idea that he might then come back at this issue at a later time,” she said.

Although recent protests pose no serious challenge to Putin’s grip on power, criticism of the conduct of the war inside Russia has been on the rise from political figures, and that could influence his decision making on the conflict, according to Haines.

She also said Chinese President Xi Jinping’s recent warnings against the use of nuclear weapons would be important for Putin.

“I think it is fair to say, from our perspective, that Xi’s voice on this is going to be, obviously, among the most compelling to Putin on this issue,” Haines said.

China and Tik-Tok

As for recent protests in China over Covid-19 quarantine rules, Haines said the public displays of anger did not pose a risk to overall stability or the survival of the regime. But she said, “How it develops will be important for Xi’s standing.”

The widespread protests contradicted the Chinese government’s narrative about how the country functions more smoothly than more chaotic democracies, and the Covid-19 restrictions had negatively affected the Chinese economy, Haines said.

Despite the challenges in having to balance containing the virus, addressing public anger over quarantine protocols and ensuring economic growth, Xi has been “unwilling to take a better vaccine from the west,” she said.

The U.S. intelligence director, the first woman to hold the job, also said there were good reasons to be concerned about Chinese-owned Tik-Tok.

Asked whether parents should be worried about their children using the popular video platform, Haines said: “I think you should be.”

China is developing frameworks for collecting foreign data and had the capacity to “turn that around and use it to target audiences for information campaigns or for other things, but also to have it for the future so that they can use it for a variety of means that they’re interested in,” Haines said.

FBI Director Christopher Wray recently warned that he had serious concerns about Tik-Tok, saying that the Chinese government could use it to collect data on millions of users or to control the recommendation algorithm, which could be used to intentionally sway public opinion.

Haines said that more than two months of women-led protests in Iran were “remarkable” but that the Iranian regime did not see the unrest as posing an imminent threat to staying in power. However, the deteriorating economy and the protests over time could fuel unrest and instability, she said.

The Iranian Revolutionary Guard and Iran’s intelligence services have adopted an “extraordinarily aggressive” stance targeting critics both at home and abroad, according to Haines.

Haines’s office is overseeing an assessment of the potential risk to national security from the disclosure of documents taken from former President Donald Trump’s home in Mar-a-Lago. But she and other intelligence officials have declined to comment on the case, which is a Justice Department investigation.

NBC News’ Mitchell asked Haines what would happen if an intelligence officer removed classified documents and then resisted handing them back.

After a long pause, Haines laughed and said: “Please don’t do this!”
 

Squid

Veteran Member
i support Z as the legitimate pres of Ukr because:

i live here. i literally (not [literally' as in madcows case, but literally) know people who voted for both Z and Poroshenko in the last election. many people. even educated, professional people i know who voted for P have actually asserted to me, personally, that the election of 20129 was fair and honest. even if they, at the time, deplored Z's election.


and as for the connection to the DS. the people here, who are fighting for their freedom and cultural autonomy do not know about or give a crap about all that. all they know is, their grandmother was staved to death by the russians 85 years ago.

and someone is helping them now.

as for me, war indeed makes strange bedfellows, to coin a phrase.
Why anyone would thumbs down this is petty.

A question was asked and the question was answered.

How come every freakin thing is black or white, yes or no, liberal or conservative. Must everyone fit into a one size fits all box?

Even the obviously wrong people who disagree with me are entitled to disagree. Hell if we all agreed how sad would that reality be?
 

Abert

Veteran Member
U.S. intel chief says Russia is using up ammunition in Ukraine faster than it can replace it
The best estimates were that Russia was sitting on Soviet stockpiles of arms at the start of this war - as for artillery that was estimated at around 100 to 150 MILLION rounds - even using up 20,000/ day - they can keep this up for over TEN YEARS - even if this is off by half - this war will be over before Russia runs out!

So it effectively makes Zero difference if they can (or can't) manufacture 20,000 new rounds a day they don't need to.
 

db cooper

Resident Secret Squirrel
How come every freakin thing is black or white, yes or no, liberal or conservative. Must everyone fit into a one size fits all box?
You asked a question, here's my answer, yes, most everyone does fit into one box or the other. I was a fan of Rush Limbaugh, who stated there is no such thing as an independent. We all have opinions, and given only two choices, we will pick one choice or the other.
 

db cooper

Resident Secret Squirrel
The best estimates were that Russia was sitting on Soviet stockpiles of arms at the start of this war - as for artillery that was estimated at around 100 to 150 MILLION rounds - even using up 20,000/ day - they can keep this up for over TEN YEARS - even if this is off by half - this war will be over before Russia runs out!

So it effectively makes Zero difference if they can (or can't) manufacture 20,000 new rounds a day they don't need to.
I tend to agree with your opinion. When I read "US Intel chief says - - " I instantly knew it was propaganda, thus the opposite has to be true.
 

Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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Dec 4, 2022
Description:
The 2022 phase of the war in Ukraine began in the closing weeks of winter, with a February offensive rapidly coming to face the onset of mud and thawing conditions.

Now, in December, Ukraine prepares for a full winter of full-scale, conventional conflict.

Winter conditions are extremely demanding, both on manpower and materiel, and in this episode we look a little closer at what is involved in operating in cold weather conditions, how cold Ukraine gets, and how prepared both sides seem to be for the onset of their winter war.


1:04:54

Winter & the War in Ukraine - Who is better prepared for winter conditions?

View: https://youtu.be/PI3PpsM3NOI


Timestamps:
00:00:00 — OPENING WORDS
00:02:54 — WHAT AM I TALKING ABOUT?
00:04:14 — HOW COLD IS COLD
00:04:34 — Categorising Cold
00:05:17 — Wet Cold
00:06:33 — Dry Cold
00:07:18 — Intense Cold
00:08:05 — Extreme Cold
00:08:54 — Hazardous Cold
00:09:54 — How Cold Does Ukraine Get?
00:11:12 — TACTICAL LEVEL
00:11:24 — Concealment and Movement
00:13:57 — Protecting the Person
00:16:30 — Equipment Issues
00:17:46 — Mounting Requirements
00:19:35 — Training and Discipline Premium
00:23:14 — What Does it Mean?
00:25:23 — OPERATIONAL LEVEL
00:25:42 — Not a Time to Stop
00:27:25 — Historical Engagements
00:28:42 — Enabling Movement
00:29:48 — Pushing Logistics
00:31:12 — The Aerial Dimension
00:32:55 — HOW WELL PREPARED ARE THEY
00:33:17 — Not Their First Winter War
00:34:56 — The MOBIK Problem
00:36:39 — Gearing Up for Winter
00:38:09 — The Russian Situation
00:39:34 — The Full Spectrum
00:40:58 — Real Solutions
00:41:20 — The Role of Volunteers
00:42:39 — Are They Ready?
00:45:25 — Leadership at All Levels
00:47:18 — Operational Concerns
00:48:40 — The Fuel of War
00:49:38 — So, On Balance?
00:51:10 — WHAT TO EXPECT?
00:51:24 — Objectives
00:53:23 — Operational Tempo
00:54:13 — Realities at the Front
00:55:31 — STRATEGY LEVEL
00:55:43 — Winter Economics
00:56:22 — Russian Comfort
00:57:02 — Threats
00:58:45 — The Will Go On
01:00:23 — CONCLUSIONS
01:01:55 — CHANNEL UPDATE
 

bobfall2005

Veteran Member
Why anyone would thumbs down this is petty.

A question was asked and the question was answered.

How come every freakin thing is black or white, yes or no, liberal or conservative. Must everyone fit into a one size fits all box?

Even the obviously wrong people who disagree with me are entitled to disagree. Hell if we all agreed how sad would that reality be?
It's bad when you call the pro Putin folks out.

Putin Rocks!
 

Abert

Veteran Member
I tend to agree with your opinion. When I read "US Intel chief says - - " I instantly knew it was propaganda, thus the opposite has to be true.
This is a perfect example of the Political Spin we have been getting - the statement was likely 100% true (they can't produce 20k rounds a day - currently) - the intended impact was to paint Russia as desperate - about to no longer being able to carry out their massive artillery strikes. But what was omitted was the information on what they had in stock (which is well known)! Over and over again we get fed partial "truths" or "facts" all designed to paint a Politically Correct narrative. The latest dump (and ongoing) of internal Twitter information on censorship clearly shows the extent our Political Class will go to to distort the facts - effectively we in the US and West have been living in an information bubble that even surpasses the futuristic vision Orwell had in his "The Ministry of Truth"
 

CaryC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
This is a perfect example of the Political Spin we have been getting - the statement was likely 100% true (they can't produce 20k rounds a day - currently) - the intended impact was to paint Russia as desperate - about to no longer being able to carry out their massive artillery strikes. But what was omitted was the information on what they had in stock (which is well known)! Over and over again we get fed partial "truths" or "facts" all designed to paint a Politically Correct narrative. The latest dump (and ongoing) of internal Twitter information on censorship clearly shows the extent our Political Class will go to to distort the facts - effectively we in the US and West have been living in an information bubble that even surpasses the futuristic vision Orwell had in his "The Ministry of Truth"
While true, I will add, has been going on, at least, since 1860. If you want some history on that let me know I can provide it.

WE just never learn. And it's possible the Orwell saw this, the corruption in government and the sheep not seeing or caring, and extrapolated out to his book.
 

jward

passin' thru
https://twitter.com/SamRamani2
Samuel Ramani
@SamRamani2


Russia reportedly asked Israel not to impede its efforts to transfer S-300s from Syria to Ukraine The Kremlin is concerned that Israel's alarm about Iran's drone and missile shipments to Russia could prompt it to sabotage Russia's military rebalance from Syria to Ukriane

Given that S-300s have been used to attack civilian targets in Ukraine, they have military significance for Russia that goes beyond air defences

Any efforts from Israel to block their transfer would drastically depart from Netanyahu's approach to the war
View: https://twitter.com/SamRamani2/status/1599552628576645120?s=20&t=niQl2R_jrIGH97lZpEuG-w


5:52 PM · Dec 4, 2022
 

northern watch

TB Fanatic

G7 price cap on Russian oil kicks in, Russia will only sell at market price​

By Jan Strupczewski
Reuters December 4 2022 8:00 PM EST Last Updated 39 min ago

BRUSSELS, Dec 5 (Reuters) - The Group of Seven price cap on Russian seaborne oil came into force on Monday as the West tries to limit Moscow's ability to finance its war in Ukraine, but Russia has said it will not abide by the measure even if it has to cut production.

The price cap, to be enforced by the G7, the European Union and Australia, comes on top of the EU's embargo on imports of Russian crude by sea and similar pledges by the United States, Canada, Japan and Britain.

It allows Russian oil to be shipped to third-party countries using G7 and EU tankers, insurance companies and credit institutions, only if the cargo is bought at or below the price cap.

Selling oil and gas to Europe has been one of the main sources of Russian foreign currency earnings since Soviet geologists found oil and gas in the swamps of Siberia in the decades after World War Two.

A view shows oil terminal Kozmino near Nakhodka, Russia

An aerial view shows the Vladimir Arsenyev tanker at the crude oil terminal Kozmino on the shore of Nakhodka Bay near the port city of Nakhodka, Russia August 12, 2022. REUTERS/Tatiana Meel

A source who asked not to be identified due to the sensitivity of the situation told Reuters that a decree was being prepared to prohibit Russian companies and traders from interacting with countries and companies guided by the cap.

In essence, such a decree would ban the export of oil and petroleum products to countries and companies that apply it.

Still, with the price cap set at $60 per barrel, not much below the $67 level where it closed on Friday , the EU and G7 countries expect Russia will still have an incentive to continue selling oil at that price, while accepting smaller profits.

The level of the cap is to be reviewed by the EU and the G7 every two months, with the first such review in mid-January.
"This review should take into account ... the effectiveness of the measure, its implementation, international adherence and alignment, the potential impact on coalition members and partners, and market developments," the European Commission said in a statement.

The cap on crude will be followed by a similar measure affecting Russian petroleum products that will come into force on February 5, though the level of that cap has not yet been determined.

Reporting by Jan Strupczewski; Editing by David Holmes

 
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Knoxville's Joker

Has No Life - Lives on TB

G7 price cap on Russian oil kicks in, Russia will only sell at market price​

By Jan Strupczewski
Reuters December 4 2022 8:00 PM EST Last Updated 39 min ago

BRUSSELS, Dec 5 (Reuters) - The Group of Seven price cap on Russian seaborne oil came into force on Monday as the West tries to limit Moscow's ability to finance its war in Ukraine, but Russia has said it will not abide by the measure even if it has to cut production.

The price cap, to be enforced by the G7, the European Union and Australia, comes on top of the EU's embargo on imports of Russian crude by sea and similar pledges by the United States, Canada, Japan and Britain.

It allows Russian oil to be shipped to third-party countries using G7 and EU tankers, insurance companies and credit institutions, only if the cargo is bought at or below the price cap.

Selling oil and gas to Europe has been one of the main sources of Russian foreign currency earnings since Soviet geologists found oil and gas in the swamps of Siberia in the decades after World War Two.

A view shows oil terminal Kozmino near Nakhodka, Russia

An aerial view shows the Vladimir Arsenyev tanker at the crude oil terminal Kozmino on the shore of Nakhodka Bay near the port city of Nakhodka, Russia August 12, 2022. REUTERS/Tatiana Meel

A source who asked not to be identified due to the sensitivity of the situation told Reuters that a decree was being prepared to prohibit Russian companies and traders from interacting with countries and companies guided by the cap.

In essence, such a decree would ban the export of oil and petroleum products to countries and companies that apply it.
Still, with the price cap set at $60 per barrel, not much below the $67 level where it closed on Friday , the EU and G7 countries expect Russia will still have an incentive to continue selling oil at that price, while accepting smaller profits.

The level of the cap is to be reviewed by the EU and the G7 every two months, with the first such review in mid-January.
"This review should take into account ... the effectiveness of the measure, its implementation, international adherence and alignment, the potential impact on coalition members and partners, and market developments," the European Commission said in a statement.

The cap on crude will be followed by a similar measure affecting Russian petroleum products that will come into force on February 5, though the level of that cap has not yet been determined.

All the measure will do is create more market scarcity. When there was only SWIFT banking this would have worked as a measure, but since BRICS is now around such a cap is a dangerous gamble...
 

jward

passin' thru

Ukraine war: Turkey the pivot point between US and Russia​


Georgios Giannakopoulos​




The war in Ukraine has put Turkey into the geopolitical spotlight. One of NATO’s earliest member states, with a special relationship with Russia, Turkey is attempting to balance its competing interests, as well as increasing its own influence.
Meanwhile, Turkey is in the middle of launching a military operation into Syria which challenges its relationship with Russia and the US, as well as causing the UN to worry about “military escalation.”
In late October, Turkey launched an operation targeting Kurdish forces in Syria and Iraq and is currently threatening a land invasion into the Kurdish regions of Syria. Russia is the Syrian government’s main ally, and the US is backing the Kurds in northern Syria.
Both Russia and the US, who are on opposing sides in the ongoing Syrian conflict, responded by urging caution. According to recent reports, Russian officials are actively involved in brokering a deal between Turkey and Syrian Kurdish fighters. Meanwhile, the US remains concerned about a possible Turkish ground operation hampering its anti-ISIS operations in Syria.

What can Turkey’s history of being a balancing point between Western powers and Russia tell us about its present role?
Over the past 100 years Turkish leaders have pivoted between a relationship with the west and one with Russia, to win or extend economic, geopolitical or social power. In 2022, with the Ukraine war close to his borders, Turkish president Recep Erdogan positioned himself as the powerbroker and peacemaker between the two sides in the Ukraine war. History shows us why Turkey is well-positioned to do that.

Brotherhood and friendship​

In March 1921 the Turkish nationalists and the Russian Bolsheviks signed a treaty of “brotherhood and friendship” in Moscow.
The preamble of the treaty affirmed that the Soviets and Turkish nationalist forces were headed by the soon-to-be Turkish president Kemal Ataturk. Ataturk and Russian leader Lenin stood in solidarity against the forces of western imperialism.
The treaty was signed while the Greek-Turkish war in Anatolia and the Russian civil war were still raging. Lenin proclaimed that “Turkey herself resisted plunder by the imperialist governments with such vigor that even the strongest of them have had to keep their hands off her.”

Ataturk similarly saw the alliance as a pact against western imperialism. This, as historian Sam Hirst has convincingly argued, was part of a wider “transnational anti-imperialist moment” and marked Soviet Russia’s commitment to supporting global anti-colonial struggles. In return, Turkish nationalists received material support in their struggle for national independence from the new Russian government.
Following the establishment of the independent Turkish state in 1923, Russo-Turkish relations shifted gears. Gone were the references to global anti-colonial struggles. Their dynamic became more pragmatic and businesslike addressing mostly matters of trade and commerce within a framework of mutual discontent with the Western liberal international order.
In the aftermath of the second world war, Russia’s demands over territory and the status of the internationally significant Dardanelles and Bosphorus straits pushed Turkey towards joining the newly formed NATO. Soviet leader Joseph Stalin famously explained the Russian demands for a military base in the Dardanelles as a question of protecting Russian security and not relying on a weak and “unfriendly” state (Turkey).

There was talk of war over the straits, which control passage between the Aegean and the Mediterranean seas, but in the end Russia accepted the status quo. And then came Stalin’s end. But the picture did not change much in the coming decades. Turkey, alongside Greece, had by now become one of the frontiers of the cold war. This time it looked towards the US for an alliance.
Image: Monika Hunackova / Shutterstock via The Conversation
By the 1990s, the end of the Cold War heralded a new era of mobility and diplomatic ties, despite points of contention with Russia around Turkey’s policy towards the new “Turkic” states emerging from the wreckage of the Soviet Union in the Caucasus and Central Asia.
Between 1992 and 1996 Russian and Turkish officials signed 15 bilateral agreements and protocols. The Black Sea region became a locus of bilateral economic cooperation. Officials expected natural gas and oil to become for the region what coal and steel had been for western Europe: forces of economic unity and paragons of regional peace and security.

Kurdish issues​

In the dawn of the new millennium, a war in Iraq and the emergence of the Iraqi Kurds as a regional force further complicated Turkey’s relationship with the US which had supported the Kurds against Saddam Hussein.
In contrast, the partnership with Russia deepened through trade, energy and regional security and cooperation. Russia became one of the key pillars in the reorientation of Turkish policy away from the failed promises of integration into the European Union, towards Asia and the Middle East.
Putin and Erdogan have both capitalized on a feeling of resentment against the west and are prone to weaponizing anti-western sentiments. Crucially, their autocratic style of governance limits foreign policy decision-making to a small clique of loyalists.
But the transformation of Syria into a region of proxy wars on Turkey’s borders, with a sizeable Kurdish population seeking autonomy and statehood, created new tensions. There was also a massive wave of refugees fleeing the war into Turkey.
And when in 2015 Turkish forces downed a Russian plane flying over the Turkish airspace carrying military personnel to Syria, Russo-Turkish relations came to a standstill. Russia responded swiftly with a series of economic measures targeting specific sectors of its second-largest trade partner.

As the above chart shows the crisis proved to be short, largely due to Turkey’s efforts to mitigate its effects and seek an understanding with Russia. This did not prevent President Erdogan from condemning the Russian annexation of Crimea.
Scholars have aptly summed up the recent dynamic of Russo-Turkish relations as “Turkey-Russia relations today are not built on trust, mutual sympathy, or even mutual interest; rather, they rest on the acknowledgment that Russia, in particular, could do tremendous damage to Turkey if it wished.”
Today, Erdogan is trying to pull off a difficult balancing act: to fulfill Turkey’s NATO obligations while maintaining its alliance with Russia. He also is positioning himself as the only leader who can do diplomatic deals and establish back channels between the Russians and the Americans.

The stakes are high and the Turkish presidential elections are looming in June 2023. Erdogan is not doing particularly well in the polls, and may be counting on national security issues and growing his international influence to boost his popularity as he heads toward the ballot box.
 

jward

passin' thru

Who controls what in Ukraine?​


A top US diplomat said Putin is not sincere about peace talks with Ukraine while he is taking the war to a new level of “barbarism” by trying to turn off the lights of civilians. Meanwhile, fighting continues in the east, according to the Institute for the Study of War.


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Who controls what in eastern Ukraine?​


Russian forces continued ground attacks around Bakhmut, in the Avdiivka-Donetsk city area, according to the Institute for the Study of War.


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Who controls what in southern Ukraine?​


Ukrainian forces reached the east bank of the Dnieper River across from Kherson city, the Institute for the Study of War says.


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Where are people fleeing to?​


According to the UN refugee agency, there have been more than 15.8 million border crossings out of Ukraine since the Russian invasion began in February. Many people have sought refuge in neighbouring countries.


The latest data show 7,885,885 border crossings into Poland, 1,589,800 to Romania, 2,852,395 to Russia, 1,812,974 to Hungary, 970,667 to Slovakia, 706,906 to Moldova, and 16,705 into Belarus.
 

northern watch

TB Fanatic
Oil Price Rises After Russia Cap Kicks In; The sanctions aim to crimp Russia's oil income while preventing a surge in energy prices

Monday, December 5, 2022, 5:05 AM ET
By Joe Wallace
Wall Street Journal

The West imposed sanctions on Russian crude, pitching the energy conflict with Moscow into an unpredictable new phase that could inject further volatility into global oil markets.

The European Union and U.K. barred inbound shipments of Russian crude Monday—a watershed for a continent striving to end its dependence on Russia’s fossil fuels after Moscow invaded Ukraine and weaponized supplies of natural gas. In tandem, the EU, the U.S. and allies placed curbs on shipping, insuring and funding Russian crude anywhere in the world.

The restrictions are the first major attempt to curb Moscow’s fossil-fuel revenue, which steadied the Russian economy after a barrage of sanctions on other industries. But there is a deliberate loophole, enabling companies to facilitate Russian oil shipments to countries outside of Europe if the price is no higher than $60 a barrel.

That carveout reflects angst that Russia, the world’s biggest exporter of crude and refined fuels, could wreak havoc through energy supplies even as its military campaign in Ukraine falters. It was designed by the U.S., where officials feared severing Russia from Western shipping and insurance entirely would ricochet back on the American economy via higher oil prices.

The untested nature of the sanctions makes the impact on energy markets hard to predict. Most actively traded futures contracts for Brent, the benchmark for international crude sales, gained 1.5% as of Monday morning in London, rising to $86.87 a barrel.

How Russia responds is the first big unknown for traders and officials. On Sunday, Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Novak said the Kremlin was considering ways in which it could ban companies from applying the price cap, and that output could fall.

“We will sell oil and petroleum products to those countries that will work with us on market terms, even if we have to slightly cut production,” Mr. Novak said in an interview with a state-owned broadcaster.

In spite of the U.S.’s aim to keep Russian oil flowing to the global market, uncertainty around the cap has dried up sales of crude from Russia in recent weeks.

Monthslong negotiations over the level at which the cap should be set went down to the wire Friday, leaving traders, shippers, refiners and insurers with little visibility until days before the sanctions took effect. Their wariness made it challenging for Russian producers to sell cargoes.

Prices for Moscow’s crude have tumbled. Estimates vary due to the increasingly opaque nature of the Russian market, but companies that assess prices agree that they have skidded over the past month to levels below the cap. Argus Media, one such firm, says the price of Urals crude exported from Primorsk on the Baltic, fell to about $49 a barrel, down by 29% from the start of November. S&P Global Commodity Insights pegged the price at about $53.50 a barrel. The prices don’t include the cost of insuring or shipping the crude, which isn’t included in the $60-a-barrel cap.

“It’s really the uncertainty that created the problem,” said Livia Gallarati, senior oil analyst at Energy Aspects. “If the price cap had been announced a few months ago we may not be in this situation, and some of the Asian buyers that are currently staying away from Russian barrels may have bought more.”

OPEC+, an alliance between the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries, Russia and other producers, acknowledged the unsettled backdrop Sunday. The cartel locked in current production levels to give it more time to assess the market effect of the price cap at a virtual meeting.

The sanctions pose a stiff test to Russia’s giant oil industry. Losing most of the European market forces Russia to search for buyers for about 800,000 barrels of crude each day, analysts at OilX say. From February, the embargo will apply to refined fuels, too.

Finding new markets will be doubly hard if Russian producers lose access to Western shipping, insurance and banking, as they will do if the Kremlin refuses to abide by the price cap. Producers would likely tap tankers that previously moved sanctioned Iranian crude, known in the industry as the shadow fleet. The fleet has grown this year and pivoted to Russia, but it’s inefficient, comprising slow, aging tankers.

Russia is producing almost as much oil as it did before the invasion. Preliminary ship-tracking data suggest it exported 7.6 million barrels of crude and refined products each day in November, according to Kpler’s lead crude analyst Viktor Katona–just below February’s level.

But Russia is putting some oil onto boats unsold and sending them toward Asia in the hope of finding a buyer en route. Ms. Gallarati of Energy Aspects estimates that between 300,000 barrels and 400,000 barrels of Russian crude that set sail daily in November haven’t been sold. In total, Russia exported 4.5 million barrels of crude each day last month.

A big problem has been the reluctance of banks to finance trades in Russian crude to independent refiners in China, Ms. Gallarati said. She said China and India are likely to step up purchases in the coming weeks, but that for now, fear of the sanctions is curbing Russian sales.

Mr. Katona of Kpler said Turkish refiners, which had scooped up Russian crude on the cheap this year, all but halted purchases for December. “A lot of buyers: They want to buy Russian oil…but right now they want to assess what is really happening,” he said.

Shipping companies and insurers also grew cautious. The cost of chartering tankers to transport Russian crude surged in recent weeks. Brokers said insurers in the West are hesitant to touch anything Russian.

Insurers might continue to steer clear of Russian oil trades due to the administrative burden of the cap, said Marcus Baker, global head of marine and cargo at the insurance broker Marsh Inc., a unit of Marsh & McLennan Cos. He said it’s difficult to predict whether insurers in other regions will fill the gap.

—Julie Steinberg contributed to this article.

Write to Joe Wallace at joe.wallace@wsj.com

Oil Price Rises After Russia Cap Kicks In - WSJ
 

Zagdid

Veteran Member

Reuters

Mobilisation increases Russian military threat - Ukrainian general​


Mon, December 5, 2022 at 6:08 AM·1 min read


KYIV (Reuters) - Russia's recent mobilisation has increased its military threat in Ukraine, with better trained soldiers now arriving at the front line, the commander of Ukrainian ground forces said on Monday.

But he said Russia was now using a lot of old equipment because it had no other way of replenishing supplies, and that Russian forces had made only slow progress around Bakhmut, one of the main battle zones in eastern Ukraine.
"On the eastern front, the situation is very tense, the enemy attacks our units every day," General Oleksander Syrskyi told national television.

Asked about the mobilisation ordered by Moscow in September, he said: "Such a number of personnel increased the threat for us and these are not just words -- these are new brigades, new battalions that have been trained, this is the replenishment that the army was waiting for because it was exhausted."

"Those who come now have a better level of training than those who were previously sent to the front," he said.
(Reporting by Pavel Polityuk, Editing by Timothy Heritage)
 

raven

TB Fanatic

Reuters

Mobilisation increases Russian military threat - Ukrainian general​


Mon, December 5, 2022 at 6:08 AM·1 min read


KYIV (Reuters) - Russia's recent mobilisation has increased its military threat in Ukraine, with better trained soldiers now arriving at the front line, the commander of Ukrainian ground forces said on Monday.

But he said Russia was now using a lot of old equipment because it had no other way of replenishing supplies, and that Russian forces had made only slow progress around Bakhmut, one of the main battle zones in eastern Ukraine.
"On the eastern front, the situation is very tense, the enemy attacks our units every day," General Oleksander Syrskyi told national television.

Asked about the mobilisation ordered by Moscow in September, he said: "Such a number of personnel increased the threat for us and these are not just words -- these are new brigades, new battalions that have been trained, this is the replenishment that the army was waiting for because it was exhausted."

"Those who come now have a better level of training than those who were previously sent to the front," he said.
(Reporting by Pavel Polityuk, Editing by Timothy Heritage)
Every Russian soldier who has survived 10 months of combat in Ukraine is much better trained than they were in February . . .
 

db cooper

Resident Secret Squirrel
Every Russian soldier who has survived 10 months of combat in Ukraine is much better trained than they were in February . . .
Granted. Survival is built into their system by then and what to do/when to do it is automatic. Rational thought replaces fear. For the hard core cases it's in their blood, many will want to stay past their enlistment contracts or go on to be mercenaries in another war. The younger they are the easier this transition happens.
 

raven

TB Fanatic
Granted. Survival is built into their system by then and what to do/when to do it is automatic. Rational thought replaces fear. For the hard core cases it's in their blood, many will want to stay past their enlistment contracts or go on to be mercenaries in another war. The younger they are the easier this transition happens.
They also become better qualified to train new recruits which increases combat effectiveness. There is not much better than having veteran who has first hand experience supervising your training.
 

phloydius

Veteran Member
Article about attack refrenced in Post #42,506 & #42,507


Russian nuclear bomber planes 'damaged in successful drone attack'
Story by Gergana Krasteva • 5h ago

Footage has emerged appearing to show the moment an explosion damaged two nuclear bomber jets in Russia.

The Engels-2 airbase, near the city of Saratov, which is used to prepare attacks on Ukraine, is believed to have been hit by drones.

Videos circulating online show a huge flash at the high-security airbase used by Vladimir Putin’s strategic fleet.

Also known as Bears, the four-engine Tupolev Tu-95 bombers, which are the only propeller-powered strategic bombers still operational today, are believed to have been damaged as a result.

Details about what happened are still scarce, but two servicemen were reported wounded and hospitalised.

A resident said: ‘Almost the entire city heard, even in Saratov, and the authorities are silent as usual.

‘They are hiding the truth apparently, [giving] no information on the subject.’

Another said: ‘Enough of this war. It has come to every home now, it’s time to stop.’

The explosion, which took place hundreds of miles to the east of the combat zone in Ukraine, was recorded at 6am local time.

Saratov governor, Roman Busargin, issued a statement calling for residents to remain calm, local media reported.

‘I want to assure you that there were no emergencies in the residential areas of the city. There are no reasons for concern,’ he said.

‘No civilian infrastructure facility was damaged. Information about incidents at military facilities is being checked by law enforcement agencies.’
 

northern watch

TB Fanatic

Ukraine-NATO strategic strike: 700 km of strategic aircraft bases hit inside Russia – Debut of the new Ukrainian drone​

Fierce explosions with dead at Russian strategic bases​

05/12/2022 - 13:54
War News 24 / 7

Tu-95: Russia prepares its bombers for multiple flights

In a strategic strike against Russia, Ukraine and NATO advanced by bombing with drones the base of the Russian Aerospace Forces in Engels in the Saratov region.

This is the "nest" of Tu-95 and Tu-160 strategic bombers. As WarNews247 had revealed, 18 to 24 strategic bombers had been assembled at this base as they prepared the largest airstrike against Ukraine.

In the end, the base, although far away from the Ukrainian border, proved unattended in the face of a drone attack.

The Ukrainian-NATO attack occurred very deep inside Russia, more than 700 km, a fact that the Russian media also emphasize.


This means that perhaps Ukraine tested in full "operational conditions" the new drone of the company Ukroboronprom, a new unmanned system which, according to what the Ukrainians claim, has a maximum range of 1,000 kilometers and is equipped with a 75 kg warhead.

Unless the attack began inside Russia.

They beat the "nest" of strategic bombers!

In more detail, several people were killed after explosions at two Russian military airports, according to Russian media.
The first explosion occurred at Engels Airport in the Saratov region.

In the morning at 06.04, December 5, an unknown aircraft crashed on the runway. At least two injured and two damaged aircraft were reported, Russian media reported.

It is not known how serious the damage to the aircraft is, however, the situation is of obvious concern, since Saratov is located quite far from the border with Ukraine.

The governor of the Saratov region said that security forces are checking how the incident may have occurred in military installations.

Already, Ukrainian sources are talking about being hit with an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV). .

It is worth noting that the two military bases are out of range of Kiev's missiles, which means that the alleged attack is likely to have been carried out by an unmanned aircraft.

And 2nd attack​

In addition to the attack on Engels airport, there was a second incident in the morning at a military airport near Ryazan.

At least three people were killed and six others injured when a fuel tank exploded at an air base near the city of Ryazan, southeast of Moscow, the Russian news agency RIA reported.

Ukraine and NATO simultaneously hit two strategic installations of the Russian Aerospace Forces.

In general, after the Crimean bridge blew up, it became clear that there were no strategic facilities left in Russia that could be considered completely safe, the Russians say, in a clear comparison of yesterday's attack with the events of the Crimean bridge.

In the video taken by surveillance cameras, you can see that the explosions at the airports in the Saratov and Ryazan regions are extremely powerful.

 
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