ALERT RUSSIA INVADES UKRAINE - Consolidated Thread

Knoxville's Joker

Has No Life - Lives on TB

I suspect this new software is a little present and message from China..​

Not likely - I have worked with Russian Programmers - all excellent - way above your H1B visa worker from India. While China is good at copying and reproducing systems - for custom work - I would go with Russian Tech first.
I have seen some of their handy work. I would tend to agree with you on Russia doing it instead of China. China is good at copying things and rebuildng poor replicas...
 

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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Aaaaannnnd saw a report that the EU is looking into taking Russian bank accounts that have been frozen to RE-BUILD Ukraine. While they are still at war? It sounds like they want to re-build Ukraine while Russian rockets are falling, and they are assuming the war is nearly over.
Well, I am part pf a Photographer/Models forum. Today I got a post to me from a Photo Retoucher. Their work is ok but nothing great. They want me to hire them for image retouching-based in Ukraine. I've seen plenty of photographers and models posting from there too....

Remember, Hitler was Times 'Man of the Year' in the 30's or so.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
I checked with two totally separate Orthodox friends, and both pretty much said what was in that last posted article on the topic.

President Z has declared the confiscation of both assets and properties belonging to the Russian-affiliated branches of the "Ukrainian" Orthodox Churches but not those Ukrainian Orthodox churches that left the supervision of the Patriarch of Moscow.

While there have been problems with spying on the part of Russian-aligned clergy, not everyone is comfortable with the mass confiscation of property and funds; deportation might have been a better way to go, but it would have taken more time.

Personally, I feel the cold breath of the ghost of Henry Tudor (the 8th of his name) when I see things like this, the temptation for governments to disband and take over the buildings and assets of a powerful religious group (often for reasons of politics) is a hard ball to stop, once it gets rolling. From Egypt's 18th dynasty to the early Soviet Union, these things are very tempting and may enrich some people a great deal in the short term, but their long-lasting effects tend to be brutal.
 

mecoastie

Veteran Member

I suspect this new software is a little present and message from China..​

Not likely - I have worked with Russian Programmers - all excellent - way above your H1B visa worker from India. While China is good at copying and reproducing systems - for custom work - I would go with Russian Tech first.

Snip from Ukraine War Day #283: Russian AI And The War Of The Future

Plug-Ins vs HIMARS

Reporter Evgeny Pozdnakov interviews a man named Yury Knutov, who heads the Air Defense Museum of the Russian Armed Forces. We have met Mr. Knutov before, which is why I have this very nice medallion of his face already in my Media library.

Yury Knutov

Knutov: “Initially, when the American HIMARS first appeared in Ukraine, we did not know how to fight against them. We decided to try the BUK-M3 complexes against them. This BUK complex is modern and completely digital, factually it is a computer with elements of Artificial Intelligence.

“Speaking about the HIMARS, it is important to note one of their characteristics: The rocket initially rises up to 20 km and only then dives down onto the target with a high degree of accuracy. The BUKs managed to intersect it exactly at a height of 20 km, they would then capture it on their radar screen, and then strike it. Currently we have collected even more data about these American devices. With the help of our data collection, we have been able to create a new [computer] program, which was added on to our other air-defense complexes. And now they have all been enhanced and automated [with this code plug-in].

“The problem earlier was that we did not have all this HIMARS data programmed into our Air-Defense [algorithms]. But now we have succeeded in learning, in detail, the parameters of the flight, and the points of intersection.

“Hence, this new knowledge that we acquired, is very important. Before, it was a manual process to capture the rocket on radar, and this very much complicated the work of our operators. But now we have eliminated the human factor in the process of fighting against the HIMARS. We are talking about unbelievable speeds, this is why, when working with these rockets, we need to use computers. Human reaction time isn’t quick enough to deal with it. We’re talking about milliseconds. Therefore, the appropriate algorithms have been added to many of our [Russian] air-defense complexes; and this has allowed us to greatly improve their effectiveness.

“In conclusion: The appearance, on the Ukrainian front, of these new weapons systems, including the GBU-39 bomb with the HIMARS engine, which is produced by Boeing, has provided us with much valuable data, while studying them. We will continue to work, to research, to master the statistical data. And, in the final analysis, we will perfect our algorithms, and these plug-ins will be added to all of our air-defense systems and complexes. In truth, this type of practice has been going on for decades, there is nothing new here.”

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American Conservative​

Washington’s Carthaginian Peace Collides With Reality​


The Biden administration refuses to tell the American people the truth: Ukraine is not winning and will not win this war.

Douglas Macgregor
Nov 29, 2022 12:03 AM

The national political and military leaders who committed America to wars of choice in Vietnam, the Balkans, Afghanistan, and Iraq, did so as a rule because they were convinced the fighting would be short and decisive. American presidents, presidential advisors, and senior military leaders never stopped to consider that national strategy, if it exists at all, consists of avoiding conflict unless the nation is attacked and compelled to fight.

The latest victim of this mentality is Ukraine. In the absence of a critical root-and-branch analysis of Russia’s national power and strategic interests, American senior military leaders and their political bosses viewed Russia through a narrowly focused lens that magnified U.S. and Ukrainian strengths but ignored Russia’s strategic advantages—geographic depth, almost limitless natural resources, high social cohesion, and the military-industrial capacity to rapidly scale up its military power.

Ukraine is now a war zone subject to the same treatment the U.S. armed forces inflicted on Germany and Japan during the Second World War, on Vietnam in the 1960s, and on Iraq over decades. Power grids, transportation networks, communications infrastructure, fuel production, and ammunition storage sites are being systematically destroyed. Millions of Ukrainians continue to flee the war zone in pursuit of safety, with ominous consequences for Europe’s societies and economies.

Meanwhile, the Biden administration repeatedly commits the unpardonable sin in a democratic society of refusing to tell the American people the truth: contrary to the Western media’s popular “Ukrainian victory” narrative, which blocks any information that contradicts it, Ukraine is not winning and will not win this war. Months of heavy Ukrainian casualties, resulting from an endless series of pointless attacks against Russian defenses in Southern Ukraine, have dangerously weakened Ukrainian forces.

Predictably, NATO’s European members, which bear the brunt of the war’s impact on their societies and economies, are growing more disenchanted with Washington’s Ukrainian proxy war. European populations are openly questioning the veracity of claims in the press about the Russian state and American aims in Europe. The influx of millions of refugees from Ukraine, along with a combination of trade disputes, profiteering from U.S. arms sales, and high energy prices risks turning European public opinion against both Washington’s war and NATO.

Russia has also undergone a transformation. In the opening years of President Putin’s term of office, the Russian Armed Forces were organized, trained, and equipped for exclusively national territorial defense. But the conduct of the Special Military Operation (SMO) in Ukraine has demonstrated the inadequacy of this approach for Russia’s National Security in the 21st century.

The opening phase of the SMO was a limited operation with a narrow purpose and restricted goals. The critical point is that Moscow never intended to do more than persuade Kiev and Washington that Moscow would fight to prevent Ukraine from joining NATO, as well as the further mistreatment of Russians in Ukraine. The SMO was, however, based on invalid assumptions and was terminated. As it turned out, the limited nature of the SMO achieved the opposite of the outcome that Moscow desired, conveying the impression of weakness, rather than strength.

After concluding that the underpinning assumptions regarding Washington’s readiness to negotiate and compromise were invalid, Putin directed the STAVKA to develop new operational plans with new goals: first, to crush the Ukrainian enemy; second, to remove any doubt in Washington and European capitols that Russia will establish victory on its own terms; and, third, to create a new territorial status quo commensurate with Russia’s national security needs.

Once the new plan was submitted and approved, President Putin agreed to an economy of force operation to defend Russian territorial gains with minimal forces until the required resources, capabilities, and manpower were assembled for decisive operations. Putin also appointed a new theater commander, General Sergei Surovikin, a senior officer who understands the mission and possesses the mindset to deliver success.

The coming offensive phase of the conflict will provide a glimpse of the new Russian force that is emerging and its future capabilities. At this writing, 540,000 Russian combat forces are assembled in Southern Ukraine, Western Russia, and Belarus. The numbers continue to grow, but the numbers already include 1,000 rocket artillery systems, thousands of tactical ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, and drones, plus 5,000 armored fighting vehicles, including at least 1,500 tanks, hundreds of manned fixed-wing attack aircraft, helicopters, and bombers. This new force has little in common with the Russian army that intervened 9 months ago on February 24, 2022.

It is now possible to project that the new Russian armed forces that will evolve from the crucible of war in Ukraine will be designed to execute strategically decisive operations. The resulting Russian force will likely take its inspiration from the force design and operational framework recommended in Colonel General Makhmut Gareev’s work, If War Comes Tomorrow? The Contours of Future Armed Conflict. The new military establishment will consist of much larger forces-in-being that can conduct decisive operations on relatively short notice with minimal reinforcement and preparation.

Put differently, by the time the conflict ends, it appears Washington will have prompted the Russian State to build up its military power, the very opposite of the fatal weakening that Washington intended when it embarked on its course of military confrontation with Moscow.

But none of these developments should surprise anyone in Washington, D.C. Beginning with Biden’s speech in Warsaw effectively demanding regime change in Moscow, the Biden administration refused to see foreign policy in terms of strategy. Like a stupid general who insists on defending every inch of ground to the last man, President Biden confirmed the United States’s commitment to oppose Russia and, potentially, any nation state that fails to measure up to globalism’s hypocritical democratic standards, regardless of the cost to the American people, whether in terms of their security or prosperity.

Biden’s speech in Warsaw was hot with emotion and mired in the ideology of moralizing globalism that is popular in Washington, London, Paris, and Berlin. But for Moscow, the speech was tantamount to a Carthaginian Peace plan. Biden’s “take no prisoners” conduct of U.S. foreign policy means the outcome of the next phase of the Ukrainian War will not only destroy the Ukrainian state. It will also demolish the last vestiges of the postwar liberal order and produce a dramatic shift in power and influence across Europe, especially in Berlin, away from Washington to Moscow and, to a limited extent, to Beijing.


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Zagdid

Veteran Member

'Bloody parcels' containing animal eyes mailed to Ukrainian embassies​

“Despite the perverted threats, we continue to strongly defend Ukraine on the diplomatic front,” Ukraine's Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said in a statement.

Dec. 3, 2022, 10:56 AM EST
By Leila Sackur
Bloody parcels containing the eyes of animals and explosives have been sent to several Ukrainian embassies and consuls across Europe, officials said late Friday.

Foreign Ministry spokesperson Oleg Nikolenko said in a statement on Facebook that embassies in Spain, Hungary, the Netherlands, Poland, Croatia and Italy had received packages containing the disembodied eyes of animals. Consulates in Naples, Italy, Krakow, Poland, and the Czech city of Brno had also been targeted, he said.

The “bloody parcels” arrived soaked in a colored liquid, and all possess a distinctive smell, according to Nikolenko, who added that Ukraine was “studying the meaning of this message.”

In a separate statement on his Facebook page, Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said Ukraine had “already stepped up security and are working with national law enforcement agencies of foreign countries.

“Despite the perverted threats, we continue to strongly defend Ukraine on the diplomatic front,” he added.
After the Ukrainian Embassy in Madrid became the latest to receive a package containing animal eyes on Friday, Spain’s Interior Ministry told The Associated Press that the building had been evacuated, adding that the package had been sent from outside the country.

Letter bombs were mailed to six addresses in Spain earlier this week, including the Ukrainian Embassy and the U.S. Embassy, as well as to Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez, causing security to be tightened.

Elsewhere, the home of the Ukrainian ambassador to the Vatican was vandalized. Andrii Yurash, told the AP that the entrance to his residence had been targeted with what he believed to be animal feces. The door to the apartment and the stairs and walls in the entryway were “smeared with a dirty substance with an unpleasant smell,” he said.
 

Zagdid

Veteran Member

Hungary will stick to veto of EU-Ukraine aid plan: Orban​

Saturday, 03 December 2022 | AP | n Budapest

Hungary's prime minister said Friday that he will continue to oppose a European Union plan to provide an 18-billion-euro ($19-billion) aid package to Ukraine in 2023, a position that promises sustained tensions as the bloc and the nationalist Hungarian government wrangle over democratic standards.

In an interview on state radio, Prime Minister Viktor Orban acknowledged that Ukraine needs help to pay for the functioning of essential services but emphasized that he would block the EU's plan of joint borrowing to fund the package.

“The question is how to help Ukraine,” Orban said.

“One proposal says that we should use the budgets of the EU member states to take out new loans together and use that money to give to Ukraine. We are not in favour of this because we do not want the European Union to become a community of indebted states instead of a community of cooperating member states.”

Orban proposed that each of the EU's 27 member states draw from its own budget to provide assistance to Ukraine through bilateral agreements.

“We will not accept the other plan, we will not consent to it, without us it will not come into being,” he said.
 

db cooper

Resident Secret Squirrel
Put differently, by the time the conflict ends, it appears Washington will have prompted the Russian State to build up its military power, the very opposite of the fatal weakening that Washington intended when it embarked on its course of military confrontation with Moscow.
I tend to agree with that statement. These so called leaders always fail to take into full account the rule of unintended consequences. It's typical of most leftists, no matter what they do, foreign or domestic.

The world could very easily wind up with a Russia equal to or greater that the USSR. And thanks to our wonderful Deep State leadership, the domestic USA could very easily wind up being equal to or lesser than Venezuela or Cuba. Aren't stolen elections just grand?
 

Oreally

Right from the start

American Conservative​

Washington’s Carthaginian Peace Collides With Reality​


The Biden administration refuses to tell the American people the truth: Ukraine is not winning and will not win this war.

Douglas Macgregor
Nov 29, 2022 12:03 AM

The national political and military leaders who committed America to wars of choice in Vietnam, the Balkans, Afghanistan, and Iraq, did so as a rule because they were convinced the fighting would be short and decisive. American presidents, presidential advisors, and senior military leaders never stopped to consider that national strategy, if it exists at all, consists of avoiding conflict unless the nation is attacked and compelled to fight.

The latest victim of this mentality is Ukraine. In the absence of a critical root-and-branch analysis of Russia’s national power and strategic interests, American senior military leaders and their political bosses viewed Russia through a narrowly focused lens that magnified U.S. and Ukrainian strengths but ignored Russia’s strategic advantages—geographic depth, almost limitless natural resources, high social cohesion, and the military-industrial capacity to rapidly scale up its military power.

Ukraine is now a war zone subject to the same treatment the U.S. armed forces inflicted on Germany and Japan during the Second World War, on Vietnam in the 1960s, and on Iraq over decades. Power grids, transportation networks, communications infrastructure, fuel production, and ammunition storage sites are being systematically destroyed. Millions of Ukrainians continue to flee the war zone in pursuit of safety, with ominous consequences for Europe’s societies and economies.

Meanwhile, the Biden administration repeatedly commits the unpardonable sin in a democratic society of refusing to tell the American people the truth: contrary to the Western media’s popular “Ukrainian victory” narrative, which blocks any information that contradicts it, Ukraine is not winning and will not win this war. Months of heavy Ukrainian casualties, resulting from an endless series of pointless attacks against Russian defenses in Southern Ukraine, have dangerously weakened Ukrainian forces.

Predictably, NATO’s European members, which bear the brunt of the war’s impact on their societies and economies, are growing more disenchanted with Washington’s Ukrainian proxy war. European populations are openly questioning the veracity of claims in the press about the Russian state and American aims in Europe. The influx of millions of refugees from Ukraine, along with a combination of trade disputes, profiteering from U.S. arms sales, and high energy prices risks turning European public opinion against both Washington’s war and NATO.

Russia has also undergone a transformation. In the opening years of President Putin’s term of office, the Russian Armed Forces were organized, trained, and equipped for exclusively national territorial defense. But the conduct of the Special Military Operation (SMO) in Ukraine has demonstrated the inadequacy of this approach for Russia’s National Security in the 21st century.

The opening phase of the SMO was a limited operation with a narrow purpose and restricted goals. The critical point is that Moscow never intended to do more than persuade Kiev and Washington that Moscow would fight to prevent Ukraine from joining NATO, as well as the further mistreatment of Russians in Ukraine. The SMO was, however, based on invalid assumptions and was terminated. As it turned out, the limited nature of the SMO achieved the opposite of the outcome that Moscow desired, conveying the impression of weakness, rather than strength.

After concluding that the underpinning assumptions regarding Washington’s readiness to negotiate and compromise were invalid, Putin directed the STAVKA to develop new operational plans with new goals: first, to crush the Ukrainian enemy; second, to remove any doubt in Washington and European capitols that Russia will establish victory on its own terms; and, third, to create a new territorial status quo commensurate with Russia’s national security needs.

Once the new plan was submitted and approved, President Putin agreed to an economy of force operation to defend Russian territorial gains with minimal forces until the required resources, capabilities, and manpower were assembled for decisive operations. Putin also appointed a new theater commander, General Sergei Surovikin, a senior officer who understands the mission and possesses the mindset to deliver success.

The coming offensive phase of the conflict will provide a glimpse of the new Russian force that is emerging and its future capabilities. At this writing, 540,000 Russian combat forces are assembled in Southern Ukraine, Western Russia, and Belarus. The numbers continue to grow, but the numbers already include 1,000 rocket artillery systems, thousands of tactical ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, and drones, plus 5,000 armored fighting vehicles, including at least 1,500 tanks, hundreds of manned fixed-wing attack aircraft, helicopters, and bombers. This new force has little in common with the Russian army that intervened 9 months ago on February 24, 2022.

It is now possible to project that the new Russian armed forces that will evolve from the crucible of war in Ukraine will be designed to execute strategically decisive operations. The resulting Russian force will likely take its inspiration from the force design and operational framework recommended in Colonel General Makhmut Gareev’s work, If War Comes Tomorrow? The Contours of Future Armed Conflict. The new military establishment will consist of much larger forces-in-being that can conduct decisive operations on relatively short notice with minimal reinforcement and preparation.

Put differently, by the time the conflict ends, it appears Washington will have prompted the Russian State to build up its military power, the very opposite of the fatal weakening that Washington intended when it embarked on its course of military confrontation with Moscow.

But none of these developments should surprise anyone in Washington, D.C. Beginning with Biden’s speech in Warsaw effectively demanding regime change in Moscow, the Biden administration refused to see foreign policy in terms of strategy. Like a stupid general who insists on defending every inch of ground to the last man, President Biden confirmed the United States’s commitment to oppose Russia and, potentially, any nation state that fails to measure up to globalism’s hypocritical democratic standards, regardless of the cost to the American people, whether in terms of their security or prosperity.

Biden’s speech in Warsaw was hot with emotion and mired in the ideology of moralizing globalism that is popular in Washington, London, Paris, and Berlin. But for Moscow, the speech was tantamount to a Carthaginian Peace plan. Biden’s “take no prisoners” conduct of U.S. foreign policy means the outcome of the next phase of the Ukrainian War will not only destroy the Ukrainian state. It will also demolish the last vestiges of the postwar liberal order and produce a dramatic shift in power and influence across Europe, especially in Berlin, away from Washington to Moscow and, to a limited extent, to Beijing.


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oh sure

"The coming offensive phase of the conflict will provide a glimpse of the new Russian force that is emerging and its future capabilities. At this writing, 540,000 Russian combat forces are assembled in Southern Ukraine, Western Russia, and Belarus. The numbers continue to grow, but the numbers already include 1,000 rocket artillery systems, thousands of tactical ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, and drones, plus 5,000 armored fighting vehicles, including at least 1,500 tanks, hundreds of manned fixed-wing attack aircraft, helicopters, and bombers. This new force has little in common with the Russian army that intervened 9 months ago on February 24, 2022.
 
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oh sure

"The coming offensive phase of the conflict will provide a glimpse of the new Russian force that is emerging and its future capabilities. At this writing, 540,000 Russian combat forces are assembled in Southern Ukraine, Western Russia, and Belarus. The numbers continue to grow, but the numbers already include 1,000 rocket artillery systems, thousands of tactical ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, and drones, plus 5,000 armored fighting vehicles, including at least 1,500 tanks, hundreds of manned fixed-wing attack aircraft, helicopters, and bombers. This new force has little in common with the Russian army that intervened 9 months ago on February 24, 2022.
View: https://youtu.be/QkDRa5Bk-hg

14:57 minutes

Why conscripts are not eager to to die for Putin's paranoia.
Do either of you support Zelensky as a legitimate elected political leader of the Ukraine? If so, why?

Do either of you support the Zelensky regime's ties to the western communist deep state machine and Team Joe/Hunter Biden? If so, why?

Not inquiring about the Ukrainian people, nor the country/culture of the Ukraine. Rather the politics/economics, present and future.


intothegoodnight
 
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naegling62

Veteran Member
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oh sure

"The coming offensive phase of the conflict will provide a glimpse of the new Russian force that is emerging and its future capabilities. At this writing, 540,000 Russian combat forces are assembled in Southern Ukraine, Western Russia, and Belarus. The numbers continue to grow, but the numbers already include 1,000 rocket artillery systems, thousands of tactical ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, and drones, plus 5,000 armored fighting vehicles, including at least 1,500 tanks, hundreds of manned fixed-wing attack aircraft, helicopters, and bombers. This new force has little in common with the Russian army that intervened 9 months ago on February 24, 2022.
This time we're really really serious! :rdog:
 

Oreally

Right from the start
Do either of you support Zelensky as a legitimate elected political leader of the Ukraine? If so, why?

Do either of you support the Zelensky regime's ties to the western communist deep state machine and Team Joe/Hunter Biden? If so, why?

Not inquiring about the Ukrainian people, nor the country/culture of the Ukraine. Rather the politics/economics, present and future.


intothegoodnight
i support Z as the legitimate pres of Ukr because:

i live here. i literally (not [literally' as in madcows case, but literally) know people who voted for both Z and Poroshenko in the last election. many people. even educated, professional people i know who voted for P have actually asserted to me, personally, that the election of 20129 was fair and honest. even if they, at the time, deplored Z's election.


and as for the connection to the DS. the people here, who are fighting for their freedom and cultural autonomy do not know about or give a crap about all that. all they know is, their grandmother was staved to death by the russians 85 years ago.

and someone is helping them now.

as for me, war indeed makes strange bedfellows, to coin a phrase.
 

Oreally

Right from the start

American Conservative​

Washington’s Carthaginian Peace Collides With Reality​


The Biden administration refuses to tell the American people the truth: Ukraine is not winning and will not win this war.

Douglas Macgregor
Nov 29, 2022 12:03 AM

The national political and military leaders who committed America to wars of choice in Vietnam, the Balkans, Afghanistan, and Iraq, did so as a rule because they were convinced the fighting would be short and decisive. American presidents, presidential advisors, and senior military leaders never stopped to consider that national strategy, if it exists at all, consists of avoiding conflict unless the nation is attacked and compelled to fight.

The latest victim of this mentality is Ukraine. In the absence of a critical root-and-branch analysis of Russia’s national power and strategic interests, American senior military leaders and their political bosses viewed Russia through a narrowly focused lens that magnified U.S. and Ukrainian strengths but ignored Russia’s strategic advantages—geographic depth, almost limitless natural resources, high social cohesion, and the military-industrial capacity to rapidly scale up its military power.

Ukraine is now a war zone subject to the same treatment the U.S. armed forces inflicted on Germany and Japan during the Second World War, on Vietnam in the 1960s, and on Iraq over decades. Power grids, transportation networks, communications infrastructure, fuel production, and ammunition storage sites are being systematically destroyed. Millions of Ukrainians continue to flee the war zone in pursuit of safety, with ominous consequences for Europe’s societies and economies.

Meanwhile, the Biden administration repeatedly commits the unpardonable sin in a democratic society of refusing to tell the American people the truth: contrary to the Western media’s popular “Ukrainian victory” narrative, which blocks any information that contradicts it, Ukraine is not winning and will not win this war. Months of heavy Ukrainian casualties, resulting from an endless series of pointless attacks against Russian defenses in Southern Ukraine, have dangerously weakened Ukrainian forces.

Predictably, NATO’s European members, which bear the brunt of the war’s impact on their societies and economies, are growing more disenchanted with Washington’s Ukrainian proxy war. European populations are openly questioning the veracity of claims in the press about the Russian state and American aims in Europe. The influx of millions of refugees from Ukraine, along with a combination of trade disputes, profiteering from U.S. arms sales, and high energy prices risks turning European public opinion against both Washington’s war and NATO.

Russia has also undergone a transformation. In the opening years of President Putin’s term of office, the Russian Armed Forces were organized, trained, and equipped for exclusively national territorial defense. But the conduct of the Special Military Operation (SMO) in Ukraine has demonstrated the inadequacy of this approach for Russia’s National Security in the 21st century.

The opening phase of the SMO was a limited operation with a narrow purpose and restricted goals. The critical point is that Moscow never intended to do more than persuade Kiev and Washington that Moscow would fight to prevent Ukraine from joining NATO, as well as the further mistreatment of Russians in Ukraine. The SMO was, however, based on invalid assumptions and was terminated. As it turned out, the limited nature of the SMO achieved the opposite of the outcome that Moscow desired, conveying the impression of weakness, rather than strength.

After concluding that the underpinning assumptions regarding Washington’s readiness to negotiate and compromise were invalid, Putin directed the STAVKA to develop new operational plans with new goals: first, to crush the Ukrainian enemy; second, to remove any doubt in Washington and European capitols that Russia will establish victory on its own terms; and, third, to create a new territorial status quo commensurate with Russia’s national security needs.

Once the new plan was submitted and approved, President Putin agreed to an economy of force operation to defend Russian territorial gains with minimal forces until the required resources, capabilities, and manpower were assembled for decisive operations. Putin also appointed a new theater commander, General Sergei Surovikin, a senior officer who understands the mission and possesses the mindset to deliver success.

The coming offensive phase of the conflict will provide a glimpse of the new Russian force that is emerging and its future capabilities. At this writing, 540,000 Russian combat forces are assembled in Southern Ukraine, Western Russia, and Belarus. The numbers continue to grow, but the numbers already include 1,000 rocket artillery systems, thousands of tactical ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, and drones, plus 5,000 armored fighting vehicles, including at least 1,500 tanks, hundreds of manned fixed-wing attack aircraft, helicopters, and bombers. This new force has little in common with the Russian army that intervened 9 months ago on February 24, 2022.

It is now possible to project that the new Russian armed forces that will evolve from the crucible of war in Ukraine will be designed to execute strategically decisive operations. The resulting Russian force will likely take its inspiration from the force design and operational framework recommended in Colonel General Makhmut Gareev’s work, If War Comes Tomorrow? The Contours of Future Armed Conflict. The new military establishment will consist of much larger forces-in-being that can conduct decisive operations on relatively short notice with minimal reinforcement and preparation.

Put differently, by the time the conflict ends, it appears Washington will have prompted the Russian State to build up its military power, the very opposite of the fatal weakening that Washington intended when it embarked on its course of military confrontation with Moscow.

But none of these developments should surprise anyone in Washington, D.C. Beginning with Biden’s speech in Warsaw effectively demanding regime change in Moscow, the Biden administration refused to see foreign policy in terms of strategy. Like a stupid general who insists on defending every inch of ground to the last man, President Biden confirmed the United States’s commitment to oppose Russia and, potentially, any nation state that fails to measure up to globalism’s hypocritical democratic standards, regardless of the cost to the American people, whether in terms of their security or prosperity.

Biden’s speech in Warsaw was hot with emotion and mired in the ideology of moralizing globalism that is popular in Washington, London, Paris, and Berlin. But for Moscow, the speech was tantamount to a Carthaginian Peace plan. Biden’s “take no prisoners” conduct of U.S. foreign policy means the outcome of the next phase of the Ukrainian War will not only destroy the Ukrainian state. It will also demolish the last vestiges of the postwar liberal order and produce a dramatic shift in power and influence across Europe, especially in Berlin, away from Washington to Moscow and, to a limited extent, to Beijing.


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you have to wonder how far along Col Mg was in his career before he was recruited to be a KGB asset?
 
I wonder when he realized he was too ethical to ever make General.
Used to be that any rank above LTC was heavily imbued via the "politics of the day" - both from within upper ranks, as well as Congress - guided by the reigning political regime, at the time of promotion.

Likely that COL Macgregor ran face-first into the incoming communist deep state Obama political machine, and was deemed to be at odds with their communist neocon political agenda - hence, retirement, rather than a star.

In a past life, was musing this winnowing process of LTC seeking to rise to COL - a handful were actually selected and submitted to Congress, and even fewer were approved and promoted to COL.


intothegoodnight

ETA - looking further into COL Macgregor's military career, which ended in 2004 - he was headed towards 30 years at the time of his retirement - and certainly knew that the were no stars in his future.

Recall the push for the military to cull O3 (Captains) and above officers who did not meet a certain liberal criteria, as defined by the Clinton II regime, when they resumed power in 1996. It would be likely that COL Macgregor's military career was de facto capped during Clinton II.
 
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von Koehler

Has No Life - Lives on TB
i support Z as the legitimate pres of Ukr because:

i live here. i literally (not [literally' as in madcows case, but literally) know people who voted for both Z and Poroshenko in the last election. many people. even educated, professional people i know who voted for P have actually asserted to me, personally, that the election of 20129 was fair and honest. even if they, at the time, deplored Z's election.


and as for the connection to the DS. the people here, who are fighting for their freedom and cultural autonomy do not know about or give a crap about all that. all they know is, their grandmother was staved to death by the russians 85 years ago.

and someone is helping them now.

as for me, war indeed makes strange bedfellows, to coin a phrase.

The enemy of my enemy, in the case of Putin, is still our enemy.
 

jward

passin' thru

jward

passin' thru
stinger was obsolete n meant to b replaced o' course, guess it's just a happenstance stroke o' luck that they found a market for the soon to be obsolete product :whistle:

Lucas Tomlinson
@LucasFoxNews
21m

Raytheon CEO to @JenGriffinFNC on U.S. weapon shortages after 9 months of war in Ukraine: "We've essentially used up 13 years worth of Stinger production and 5 years worth of Javelin production. So the question is, how are we going to resupply, restock the inventories?" #RNDF2022
 

OldArcher

Has No Life - Lives on TB
stinger was obsolete n meant to b replaced o' course, guess it's just a happenstance stroke o' luck that they found a market for the soon to be obsolete product :whistle:

Lucas Tomlinson
@LucasFoxNews
21m

Raytheon CEO to @JenGriffinFNC on U.S. weapon shortages after 9 months of war in Ukraine: "We've essentially used up 13 years worth of Stinger production and 5 years worth of Javelin production. So the question is, how are we going to resupply, restock the inventories?" #RNDF2022

Spread the fears of war, and whisper in the “right“ ears. Won’t be long before the justification for MORE weapons, at higher prices, comes to the fore…

OA
 

jward

passin' thru
Jeff Seldin
@jseldin

NEW: #Russia-#Ukraine - "We're seeing a reduced tempo already of the conflict" per @ODNIgov
Director Avril Haines at #RNDF2022

"Most of the fighting now is around #Bakhmut & the #Donetsk area & sort of has slowed down w/the withdrawal of Russian from the western Kherson area"

"We expect that's what we're likely to see in the coming months" per
@ODNIgov
Dir Haines "Once you get past the winter, the question is, what will the counter offensive look like" in the spring"

"Both militaries are going to be in a situation where they're going to try to refit, resupply...so they're kind of prepared for that [spring] counteroffensive" per
@ODNIgov
Dir Haines "We actually have a fair amount of skepticism as to whether the #Russia|ns will be prepared"

NEW: #Russia's Vladimir Putin - "I do think he is becoming more informed of the challenges the military faces in Russia but it's still not clear to us that he has a full picture at this stage of just how challenged they are" per
@ODNIgov
Dir Haines

NEW: Russia's Putin-"He has not changed his political objective" per @ODNIgov Dir Haines "We don't see evidence of that" "His political objective is to in effect control it [#Ukraine]"

Will #Russia's Putin scale back his military plans for #Ukraine - "He may be willing to do that on a temporary basis with the idea that he may then come back at this issue at a later time" per @ODNIgov Dir Haines citing US IC analysts

Will #Russia's Putin scale back his military plans for #Ukraine - "He may be willing to do that on a temporary basis with the idea that he may then come back at this issue at a later time" per @ODNIgov Dir Haines citing US IC analysts

#Russia burning through its military stockpiles/munitions "quite quickly - it's really pretty extraordinary" per @ODNIgov's Haines "Our own sense is that they are not capable of indigenously producing what they expending at this stage"

#NorthKorea|n munitions to #Russia - "We've seen some movement but it's not been a lot at this stage" per @ODNIgov's Haines "It is one of the ones we're watching quite carefully bcs it would be significant, potentially"

#NorthKorea|n munitions to #Russia - "We've seen some movement but it's not been a lot at this stage" per
@ODNIgov's Haines "It is one of the ones we're watching quite carefully bcs it would be significant, potentially"
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3:22 PM · Dec 3, 2022
 

jward

passin' thru
Samuel Ramani
@SamRamani2
2m

Russia's Rybar Telegram channel boasts that Bakhmutske has seen almost every house destroyed and might not be rebuilt in the future

Bakhmutske is currently in Ukrainian hands as Russia struggles to win over Bakhmut. It also shows that Russia's public declarations about rebuilding Mariupol do not extend to the rest of Donetsk
 

jward

passin' thru
Ulrich Speck
@ulrichspeck


Macron comes back to his favorite subject of building a new European security architecture together with Russia.
He says that it is up to Ukraine to decide about the "question of borders" and to decide when and under which conditions negotiations can start. But "there is a thing that depends on us which is the security of the rest of Europe".
View: https://twitter.com/ulrichspeck/status/1599155471755411456?s=20&t=3wjC16-K38KjrUwHJqVxdg
 

jward

passin' thru
Ulrich Speck
@ulrichspeck


Macron comes back to his favorite subject of building a new European security architecture together with Russia.
He says that it is up to Ukraine to decide about the "question of borders" and to decide when and under which conditions negotiations can start. But "there is a thing that depends on us which is the security of the rest of Europe".
View: https://twitter.com/ulrichspeck/status/1599155471755411456?s=20&t=3wjC16-K38KjrUwHJqVxdg
Ulrich Speck
@ulrichspeck
Yet Macron has been pushed back in his ambition to play a leading role once negotiations start, if they start, by Biden, who said at the joint press conference with Macron that he would talk to Putin and consult with allies (like France).
 

Abert

Veteran Member
you have to wonder how far along Col Mg was in his career before he was recruited to be a KGB asset?
Well I guess you will need to add Gen. Wesley Clark to your list of KGB assets! - as he has effectively just confirmed what COL Macgregor has been saying for months!! Eventually REALITY trumps the PR and SPIN.

"Putin led Ukraine into a trap ," said the former commander of NATO forces in Europe, US General Wesley Clark.

G. Clark emphasized in his interview that the actions of the Russian army will force Ukraine to sit at the negotiating table.

Bahamut has turned into a huge meat grinder for the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

 

jed turtle

a brother in the Lord
The enemy of my enemy, in the case of Putin, is still our enemy.
The Obama/Biden Regime is Godless, communist-homoglobalist to the core. For many of us on this forum and in flyover America, that is all we need to know about who the “enemy” actually is...

Putin and the anti-homo Russians who have restored their Russian Orthodox Christian Church memberships, Appear to be the only Military on the planet fighting the 357 gender/ pedophile-pushing globalists. Soon, this fact will become apparent to everyone, and those who cheer on Zelensky and Biden will be cowering in dark corners as everyone around them have become aware of their real agendas.
 

jed turtle

a brother in the Lord
i support Z as the legitimate pres of Ukr because:

i live here. i literally (not [literally' as in madcows case, but literally) know people who voted for both Z and Poroshenko in the last election. many people. even educated, professional people i know who voted for P have actually asserted to me, personally, that the election of 20129 was fair and honest. even if they, at the time, deplored Z's election.


and as for the connection to the DS. the people here, who are fighting for their freedom and cultural autonomy do not know about or give a crap about all that. all they know is, their grandmother was staved to death by the russians 85 years ago.

and someone is helping them now.

as for me, war indeed makes strange bedfellows, to coin a phrase.
Communist Stalin caused the Holomodor, and the execution of millions of Christian Anti-communist Russians. Kind of like the Leftist Americans in America have caused the destruction / abortion of 60 million unborn American babies (and counting) in America. Leftist Americans are no more “American” than Communist Stalin was “ Russian”.
 

db cooper

Resident Secret Squirrel
Until he gets mobilized...
I don't think so, the Russians are not dumb enough to put him in harms way where he could be a battle field death or death an by unknown special deep state cause. He's political, and they will protect him so they can get all the political mileage they can out of him.

Snowden has skills he brought with him, and it's highly possible he is using those skills right now, which is double the reason not to draft him.
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
Posted for fair use.....

Russia-Ukraine war at a glance: what we know on day 284 of the invasion​

The Kremlin says Russia ‘will not accept’ a price cap on its oil after EU members agree on one, while president Volodymyr Zelenskiy says the cap will do little to deter Russia
Guardian staff
Sat 3 Dec 2022 20.21 EST Last modified on Sat 3 Dec 2022 20.58 EST

  • Russia “will not accept” a price cap on its oil and is analysing how to respond, the Kremlin said in comments reported on Saturday, in response to a deal by western powers aimed at limiting a key source of funding for its war in Ukraine. The price cap on Russian seaborne oil was adopted by the G7 and Australia, after it was agreed by EU countries.
  • President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said the $60 price cap on seaborne Russian oil is not serious and will do little to deter Russia from waging war in Ukraine. “It’s only a matter of time before stronger tools will have to be used anyway. It is a pity that this time will be lost,” he said in a video statement on Saturday.
  • US treasury secretary Janet Yellen said the cap will particularly benefit low- and medium-income countries that have borne the brunt of high energy and food prices. “The price cap will immediately cut into (President Vladimir) Putin’s most important source of revenue,” Yellen said in a statement.
  • Russia’s embassy in the US criticised what it called the “dangerous” western move and said Moscow would continue to find buyers for its oil.
  • US defense secretary Lloyd Austin on Saturday accused Russia of “deliberate cruelty” in its war in Ukraine, saying Moscow was intentionally targeting civilians. “With deliberate cruelty, Russia is putting civilians and civilian targets in its gunsights,” Austin told the Reagan National Defense Forum in Simi Valley, California.
  • Ukraine is slapping sanctions on 10 senior clerics linked to a pro-Moscow church on the grounds they agreed to work with Russian occupation authorities or justified Moscow’s invasion, the security service said on Saturday. The announcement is the latest in a series of steps against a Ukrainian branch of the Orthodox Church linked historically to Moscow. The Orthodox Church in Russia itself backs the war.
  • Eighteen Ukrainian diplomatic missions in 12 countries have received bloody packages, including animal parts, in what Ukraine has described as a “campaign of terror and intimidation”. Oleg Nikolenko, a spokesperson from Ukraine’s foreign ministry, said the packages were simultaneously sent from one European country, which he could not disclose while the investigation was ongoing.
  • The west should consider how to address Russia’s need for security guarantees if Vladimir Putin agrees to negotiations about ending the war in Ukraine, the French president, Emmanuel Macron, said. He said Europe needed to address Putin’s fear that “Nato comes right up to its doors”, and the deployment of weapons that could threaten Russia, as Europe prepares its future security architecture, Reuters reports.
  • The Ukrainian army has recaptured 13 settlements in the Luhansk region, the eastern-most oblast in the country, according to the head of the regional administration, Serhiy Haidai. He said that artillery was still being fired at the villages by Russian forces. Doctors are due to visit next week and firewood is being organised for residents, Haidai posted on Telegram.
  • Russian forces are concentrating most of their strength on taking the town of Bakhmut in Donetsk, according to the British Ministry of Defence.
  • Ukraine has detained eight people over the theft of a mural painted by the elusive British street artist Banksy from a wall in the Kyiv suburbs, authorities said. The stencil image of a person in a nightgown and gas mask holding a fire extinguisher next to the charred remains of a window in the town of Hostomel went missing on Friday, they said.
 
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