TERRORISM Riots in Minneapolis (now the main riot thread)

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Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
KFhunter said:
How much pressure was being applied to the neck?
Was any bones broken?
What was the actual cause of death? asphyxiation? excited delirium? heart attack? Were drugs involved?
how much did the knee contribute to his death?
Did the black guy have a mental condition?
How much struggling was there prior to being put down on the ground?
Were there complications or heart issues the officers could not have known about?
Is there even bruising around the neck?

Far as I know there's no medical reports yet....how can anyone be "indicted for murder" when the victim hasn't even had that yet?

It did not look like the guys faced was mushed into the concrete from the crushing weight of the officers knee, was the officer just placing his knee there for balance? or was he pushing down hard as he could?

You said "murder" but I didn't see the cop trying to lift up the cruiser so he could transfer more weight to his knee.

There's a lot of questions unanswered, but so far it's looking like another positional asphyxiation type case, except with a knee involved complicating things.


but go ahead and keep riding that wagon...
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The mayor went into full CYA.....
 
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KFhunter

Veteran Member
For anyone not on the bandwagon and wants to look at this a bit more objectively.

www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us

5-300 Use of Force

MPD Policy Manual 5-300 Use of Force
www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us

5-311 USE OF NECK RESTRAINTS AND CHOKE HOLDS (10/16/02) (08/17/07) (10/01/10) (04/16/12)

DEFINITIONS I.

Choke Hold: Deadly force option. Defined as applying direct pressure on a person’s trachea or airway (front of the neck), blocking or obstructing the airway (04/16/12)

Neck Restraint: Non-deadly force option. Defined as compressing one or both sides of a person’s neck with an arm or leg, without applying direct pressure to the trachea or airway (front of the neck). Only sworn employees who have received training from the MPD Training Unit are authorized to use neck restraints. The MPD authorizes two types of neck restraints: Conscious Neck Restraint and Unconscious Neck Restraint. (04/16/12)

Conscious Neck Restraint: The subject is placed in a neck restraint with intent to control, and not to render the subject unconscious, by only applying light to moderate pressure. (04/16/12)

Unconscious Neck Restraint: The subject is placed in a neck restraint with the intention of rendering the person unconscious by applying adequate pressure. (04/16/12)

PROCEDURES/REGULATIONS II.

  1. The Conscious Neck Restraint may be used against a subject who is actively resisting. (04/16/12)
  2. The Unconscious Neck Restraint shall only be applied in the following circumstances: (04/16/12)
    1. On a subject who is exhibiting active aggression, or;
    2. For life saving purposes, or;
    3. On a subject who is exhibiting active resistance in order to gain control of the subject; and if lesser attempts at control have been or would likely be ineffective.
  3. Neck restraints shall not be used against subjects who are passively resisting as defined by policy. (04/16/12)
  4. After Care Guidelines (04/16/12)
    1. After a neck restraint or choke hold has been used on a subject, sworn MPD employees shall keep them under close observation until they are released to medical or other law enforcement personnel.
    2. An officer who has used a neck restraint or choke hold shall inform individuals accepting custody of the subject, that the technique was used on the subject.
 
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Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
Macgyver said:
All you need is one cop and a rifle inside the front door of each store.
Drop the first one in and the rest would scatter like roaches when the lights come on.
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There are some on the "other side" that would welcome such a reaction to put their agenda into over drive....
 
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KFhunter

Veteran Member
What I want to know is was the person actively resisting, or passively resisting. I can't see the video unedited.

(but to use Hillary's words: at this point what does it matter?)
 
Raggedyman

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
20Gauge said:
What you mean is that Whites will react in a planned manner that will end the resolution as when we do come back it is to kill everything we meet. We play to win.
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one can HOPE that's the truth if it . . . however what I see when I look at this BULLSHIT is cuc pussy whitey UNABLE to stomach the street fight necessary to save HIS OWN TRIBE and the FUTURE of his progeny - but he will happily ATTEND and even ASSIST in the thuggery of his enemies, motivated by the desire to prove he is NOT a BIGOT. further, it will be called "GOOD" even CELEBRATED - by those who should be asking themselves the very question(s) posed in post 140 here - a MOST BIZARRE set of circumstances
 
mzkitty

mzkitty

I give up.
Now they're chanting I can't breathe and am I next. Target carts all piled up around the police station:

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straightstreet

straightstreet

Life is better in flip flops
Raggedyman

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
naturallysweet said:
They did not intend to kill him. They may have killed him. The autopsy hasn't been done. if it's proven they killed him, they should go to jail.
The real problem here is the tribal black culture. There is zero chance they are going to get decent police officers to deal with a tribal Black culture.
When you end up with the worst of the worst , then bad stuff happens. Because any police officer with a brain would refuse to work in the landmine field culture that views them as an ancient tribal enemy.
In a sane world, every single white police officer would quit working in any area that was majority non-white. Then they can deal with themselves as they see fit.
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thank you for such an accurate logical statement. we don't KNOW why this happened . . . we just know that it DID. it was wrong - it shouldn't have happened - and the cops need to go down . . .
having said that . . .

I FEEL QUITE CERTAIN ​
that none of these cops woke up that morning and said to themselves . . . gee wiz - life is so BOORING - just for grins I think I'll go out and KILL A BLACK DUDE TODAY

as you said above - "IF its shown they killed him they should go to jail" even if these guys were given to the crowd to "do with as they would" it would not change the current situation in the streets
 
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TerryK

TB Fanatic
KFhunter said:
For anyone not on the bandwagon and wants to look at this a bit more objectively.

www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us

5-300 Use of Force

MPD Policy Manual 5-300 Use of Force
www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us

5-311 USE OF NECK RESTRAINTS AND CHOKE HOLDS (10/16/02) (08/17/07) (10/01/10) (04/16/12)

DEFINITIONS I.

Choke Hold: Deadly force option. Defined as applying direct pressure on a person’s trachea or airway (front of the neck), blocking or obstructing the airway (04/16/12)

Neck Restraint: Non-deadly force option. Defined as compressing one or both sides of a person’s neck with an arm or leg, without applying direct pressure to the trachea or airway (front of the neck). Only sworn employees who have received training from the MPD Training Unit are authorized to use neck restraints. The MPD authorizes two types of neck restraints: Conscious Neck Restraint and Unconscious Neck Restraint. (04/16/12)

Conscious Neck Restraint: The subject is placed in a neck restraint with intent to control, and not to render the subject unconscious, by only applying light to moderate pressure. (04/16/12)

Unconscious Neck Restraint: The subject is placed in a neck restraint with the intention of rendering the person unconscious by applying adequate pressure. (04/16/12)

PROCEDURES/REGULATIONS II.

  1. The Conscious Neck Restraint may be used against a subject who is actively resisting. (04/16/12)
  2. The Unconscious Neck Restraint shall only be applied in the following circumstances: (04/16/12)
    1. On a subject who is exhibiting active aggression, or;
    2. For life saving purposes, or;
    3. On a subject who is exhibiting active resistance in order to gain control of the subject; and if lesser attempts at control have been or would likely be ineffective.
  3. Neck restraints shall not be used against subjects who are passively resisting as defined by policy. (04/16/12)
  4. After Care Guidelines (04/16/12)
    1. After a neck restraint or choke hold has been used on a subject, sworn MPD employees shall keep them under close observation until they are released to medical or other law enforcement personnel.
    2. An officer who has used a neck restraint or choke hold shall inform individuals accepting custody of the subject, that the technique was used on the subject.
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Don't see anything in here about kneeling on the neck of someone.
Kneeling on the neck compresses the carotid artery and cuts off blood flow to the brain and depending on the clumsiness of the LEO attempting to apply it, can also restrict breathing.
You can render a person unconscious in less than 30 seconds, and permanently brain damaged or dead in a couple of minutes due to blood flow restriction to the brain, not to mention being unable to breath.
No cops are adequately trained to safely use this procedure and many places ban it.
There was absolutely no excuse for the cop continuing this crap long after the suspect went unconscious.
 
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