TERRORISM Riots in Minneapolis (now the main riot thread)

naturallysweet

Has No Life - Lives on TB
They did not intend to kill him. They may have killed him. The autopsy hasn't been done. if it's proven they killed him, they should go to jail.
The real problem here is the tribal black culture. There is zero chance they are going to get decent police officers to deal with a tribal Black culture.
When you end up with the worst of the worst , then bad stuff happens. Because any police officer with a brain would refuse to work in the landmine field culture that views them as an ancient tribal enemy.
In a sane world, every single white police officer would quit working in any area that was majority non-white. Then they can deal with themselves as they see fit.
 

vector7

Dot Collector
View: https://twitter.com/AttorneyCrump/status/1265437975988617216


George Floyd
New Surveillance Vid Shows Moments Before Killing ... No Signs of Him Resisting

5/27/2020 9:36 AM PT

Before George Floyd was pinned to the ground by a cop's knee -- and ultimately killed -- he was cuffed by a different officer and seemed to be cooperating ... according to new surveillance footage.

A nearby restaurant, Dragon Wok, captured the initial moments of George's run-in with Minneapolis police on a camera set up outside. Based on the video, this started as a traffic stop of some sort, which ended with George being led away in cuffs.

The video shows 2 vehicles parked curbside, and eventually, 2 officers approach one of the cars and ask everyone to step out. A man and a woman emerge from the passenger side, while George is taken out by another officer on the driver's side ... seemingly struggling at first.

The cops get George to stand up and lead him over to the sidewalk where they sit him down. He isn't doing a whole lot of resisting the rest of the way.

Another police officer eventually arrived, and George was walked across the street and off camera. He was not being led by the officer who was eventually seen with his knee on George's neck.

Remember, police say they were responding to a call for a possible forgery. We're told an employee at a nearby business says George had attempted to pay with a $10 bill they suspected was counterfeit and, as is company policy, had reported it to police.

The surveillance video was released by Dragon Wok's owner Rashad West, who says he wanted to put it out for his community.

It's important to note the video does not show what happened immediately before the officer put the full force of his knee on George's neck ... despite pleas from George of not being able to breathe.

As you know, George's killing sparked violent protests Tuesday evening in Minneapolis. The 4 officers involved have been fired, and the Mayor has called George's death a failure on the part of the police.


The Moments Before George Floyd's Death (2min)
View: https://youtu.be/C8bLuzk1OeU
 

mzkitty

I give up.
They did not intend to kill him. They may have killed him. The autopsy hasn't been done. if it's proven they killed him, they should go to jail.
The real problem here is the tribal black culture. There is zero chance they are going to get decent police officers to deal with a tribal Black culture.
When you end up with the worst of the worst , then bad stuff happens. Because any police officer with a brain would refuse to work in the landmine field culture that views them as an ancient tribal enemy.
In a sane world, every single white police officer would quit working in any area that was majority non-white. Then they can deal with themselves as they see fit.

My son wants to know if they cooked the chicken. :rolleyes:

Oh look, not sure where this came from but it does look like US cops:

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Video:

 

dvo

Veteran Member
They did not intend to kill him. They may have killed him. The autopsy hasn't been done. if it's proven they killed him, they should go to jail.
The real problem here is the tribal black culture. There is zero chance they are going to get decent police officers to deal with a tribal Black culture.
When you end up with the worst of the worst , then bad stuff happens. Because any police officer with a brain would refuse to work in the landmine field culture that views them as an ancient tribal enemy.
In a sane world, every single white police officer would quit working in any area that was majority non-white. Then they can deal with themselves as they see fit.

Yeah, but there is the salary and pension with lots of ways to retire early. Rural cops don’t usually have as good a gig on the money side. Glad I didn’t bother to try for Columbus PD. Got a full ride instead to college. Never looked back.
 

Cardinal

Chickministrator
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I can't tell much from this. By the way, before I fell in the sack last night, a mob did bust into a liquor store (it looked like), and ran off with all the booze.

Democrat posting:

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Video:

Ya know, they (cops) could have probably saved themselves a bunch of tear gas by simply putting out bottles of booze everywhere....
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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Well,,,
From what I see there are three officers holding him down. And a forth standing near.
Do you really think, that with as many people that was there, that were taking pictures of the event, on their phones,,,that the officers would just kill him in public? For everyone to see?
Don't get me wrong. There are some bad cops. I've run up against one or two in my life.
But I have seen criminal resist arrest, especially black criminals, more often than not.View attachment 199107
It may not make sense,,but yes, they DID "kill him in public" while everyone watched!

Summerthyme
 

Milkweed Host

Veteran Member
The autopsy results will be pivotal in the fbi's investigation. I would imagine that the fbi has many agents working this one. Most of the fbi's investigations into police use of force normally run out one year with a letter from the DOJ stating, they are closing the file. Usually just one sentence. However, this investigation will be done haphazardly, in a hurry. Even the fbi has lost much of it's credibility since Comey.

An officer's knee on the upper back and neck area is very common is subduing a suspect. With this officer his knee appears to be directly on the neck. He will have to explain that at some point in the future. As long as a suspect is talking, they are breathing. Why this suspect was kept in this position for so long remains to be seen. One thought is the officers on scene we waiting for more backup???

The hmong officer trying to block the recording of the arrest looks like the officers are trying to cover something up. Also, why didn't the other three officers on scene try and intervene if this arrest was out of the norm.? There is nothing normal about dealing with blacks, when they are stressed. It is always chaotic.

Now we have rioters going around destroying things. What these rioters may not think about is many of their crimes were recorded and it's only a matter of time before they are arrested and jailed. Many of these arrests will be for felonies and they can piss away those wonderful future jobs they are going to school for, at their parent's expense.

The perfect mess.
 

mzkitty

I give up.
Tou Thao: 10 things about Minneapolis cop involved in George Floyd controversy

By Conan Altatis on May 28, 2020 • ( 1 Comment )

Tou Thao
Tou Thao

Tou Thao is one of the four police officers involved in the controversial death of George Floyd. On May 25, 2020, an employee at Cup Foods at 3579 Chicago Avenue in Minneapolis, Minnesota, United States called the Minneapolis Police Department to report a customer who was trying to pay with a counterfeit $20 bill.

Apparently, Floyd matched the suspect’s descriptions. While sitting on the hood of his car, he was arrested by Thao and three other cops.

It was a deadly encounter witnessed by several bystanders and streamed on Facebook Live. As shown in the video, Floyd was lying face down on the street next to the police car’s rear passenger wheel while repeatedly telling the cops he could not breathe.

Paramedics arrived moments after Floyd started to lose consciousness. He was taken to Hennepin County Medical Center in Minneapolis where he eventually died.

On May 26, 2020, the Federal Bureau of Investigations launched an investigation. On the same day, the Minneapolis Police Department terminated Thao and his three colleagues involved in the incident. Here are 13 more facts about the Asian-American police officer:

  1. He is of Hmong descent.
  2. He started as a community service officer with the Minneapolis Police Department.
  3. He went through the academy in 2009.
  4. His badge number is 7162.
  5. He was laid off from 2010 to 2011.
  6. In 2012, he returned to the Minneapolis Police Department as he was hired to a full time position.
  7. Six complained have been filed against him prior to Floyd’s death but no disciplinary action was ever taken, according to Communities United Against Police Brutality.
  8. On October 7, 2014, he and fellow police officer Robert Thunder arrested Lamar Ferguson, physically assaulted the arrestee and took him to the hospital before putting him to jail.
  9. In 2017, he and Thunder were sued by Ferguson for excessive use of force and the case was closed in 2018 with the Minneapolis Police Department settling with Ferguson for $25,000.
  10. He did not physically touch Floyd but while the arrestee was being held by his three colleagues, he moved away from them to tell the eyewitnesses to “get back on the sidewalk.”
 

Jubilee on Earth

Veteran Member
Tou Thao: 10 things about Minneapolis cop involved in George Floyd controversy

By Conan Altatis on May 28, 2020 • ( 1 Comment )

Tou Thao
Tou Thao

Tou Thao is one of the four police officers involved in the controversial death of George Floyd. On May 25, 2020, an employee at Cup Foods at 3579 Chicago Avenue in Minneapolis, Minnesota, United States called the Minneapolis Police Department to report a customer who was trying to pay with a counterfeit $20 bill.

Apparently, Floyd matched the suspect’s descriptions. While sitting on the hood of his car, he was arrested by Thao and three other cops.

It was a deadly encounter witnessed by several bystanders and streamed on Facebook Live. As shown in the video, Floyd was lying face down on the street next to the police car’s rear passenger wheel while repeatedly telling the cops he could not breathe.

Paramedics arrived moments after Floyd started to lose consciousness. He was taken to Hennepin County Medical Center in Minneapolis where he eventually died.

On May 26, 2020, the Federal Bureau of Investigations launched an investigation. On the same day, the Minneapolis Police Department terminated Thao and his three colleagues involved in the incident. Here are 13 more facts about the Asian-American police officer:

  1. He is of Hmong descent.
  2. He started as a community service officer with the Minneapolis Police Department.
  3. He went through the academy in 2009.
  4. His badge number is 7162.
  5. He was laid off from 2010 to 2011.
  6. In 2012, he returned to the Minneapolis Police Department as he was hired to a full time position.
  7. Six complained have been filed against him prior to Floyd’s death but no disciplinary action was ever taken, according to Communities United Against Police Brutality.
  8. On October 7, 2014, he and fellow police officer Robert Thunder arrested Lamar Ferguson, physically assaulted the arrestee and took him to the hospital before putting him to jail.
  9. In 2017, he and Thunder were sued by Ferguson for excessive use of force and the case was closed in 2018 with the Minneapolis Police Department settling with Ferguson for $25,000.
  10. He did not physically touch Floyd but while the arrestee was being held by his three colleagues, he moved away from them to tell the eyewitnesses to “get back on the sidewalk.”

Sounds to me like he was a jerk-off live wire. I knew a guy like that. My brother-in-law was in the military. Spent a decade as a Marine, and then moved to the Army. He was hard-core, had a mean-streak, and was genuinely unpleasant to be around. Loved showing off his tough-guy aggressive personality to anyone and everyone he came in contact with. I always thought that he was way too hard to be in a position in the military on opps, when he would fly off the handle at every little thing at home. He ended up getting killed in action in Afghanistan several years back, and everyone remembers him as a hero. I won’t deny the sadness and pain that my sister and his kids went through losing him nor the sacrifice he gave of his life for our country, but he wasn’t a good man. He wasn’t a hero in my book. I believe that God took him out of the line of duty to save innocent lives and to keep him from doing any more damage than I’m sure he already did.

Anyway, my point was that just because someone wears a uniform doesn’t mean they’re a bad person... but it doesn’t always mean they’re a good one, either.
 

Cardinal

Chickministrator
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homecanner1

Veteran Member
Was elsewhere hoping to see Space X Launch, but live streams will be coming from Mpls. No doubt out of state reinforcements have arrived to underscore the urgency.

The autopsy report will be the nail in officer Chauvin's coffin, esp if shows break or hairline fracture of neck. It was horrific to watch.

The facts on this are slippery, it is CUP Foods, not CUB Foods, a well known grocery chain. This is a smaller mom n pop minimart type operation, typical of big cities where Floyd was taken into arrest outside for the deli/forgery incident.

mpls riot cup foods where incident took place.jpg


last night's impromptu demo at the Target plaza where the vehicle was driving into carts features a CUB foods. Carlos Gonzalez of the Star Tribune has been taking great photos documenting the last 36 hrs

mpls riot cub foods at target plaza.jpg

View: https://twitter.com/CarlosGphoto/status/1265473715057438723/photo/4


word spread it happened outside of "cup" foods and some made a wrong assumption while gathering at the 3rd precinct station

other false conclusions will be made too before this is over.

example: story has changed from "attempting to use a forged check" to trying to pass a counterfeit $10. Did the store owner himself alert the authories about illegality in transaction or not?

The store where it occurred needs going over with a fine tooth comb. Did law enforcement also frequent the establishment for carryout deli food on shift? Something does not add up here. Alas the owner of the store Rashad's camera did not capture the whole arrest procedure as they went off camera briefly before he was wrestled to the pavement.

tonight will be very tense there
 
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blueinterceptor

Veteran Member
Has anyone seen the video? Has anyone seen what preceded the video of the cop with his knee on the back of the perp? Did anybody listen to the comments by the first civilians on scene. Particularly hey man get up and get into the car the right way. Or the comment that they tried to peacefully arrest him for 10 minutes prior to the video.
probably not. I’m not saying the cop was perfect but there’s more than the spectators talking up the you’re murdering him
 

Cardinal

Chickministrator
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Has anyone seen the video? Has anyone seen what preceded the video of the cop with his knee on the back of the perp? Did anybody listen to the comments by the first civilians on scene. Particularly hey man get up and get into the car the right way. Or the comment that they tried to peacefully arrest him for 10 minutes prior to the video.
probably not. I’m not saying the cop was perfect but there’s more than the spectators talking up the you’re murdering him
I totally believe this, just like that video posted by the black cop about Abery changed my outlook.
BUT. One of my martial arts partners is Atlanta PD and the entire reason he joined up was to be able to handle asshats without killing them.
Training is available to anyone who wants or needs it.
These guys were not concerned with how they handled their perp cause they "knew" they would be backed up by the system.
(Except they got thrown under da bus)
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
Has anyone seen the video? Has anyone seen what preceded the video of the cop with his knee on the back of the perp? Did anybody listen to the comments by the first civilians on scene. Particularly hey man get up and get into the car the right way. Or the comment that they tried to peacefully arrest him for 10 minutes prior to the video.
probably not. I’m not saying the cop was perfect but there’s more than the spectators talking up the you’re murdering him
Got a link for that of which you speak?
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
I thought the DA's office would have written up some charges by this afternoon and tossed those cops behind bars..if nothing else, for their own safety.

Oh well. Looks like it's on again for tonight.
 

mzkitty

I give up.

hunybee

Veteran Member
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well brandon friedman, you may be quite surprised to know that there were black people at the state houses, and there were white people at the protests last night.

you may also be aghast that there are black trump supporters at both as well.

and just for good measure, there were people at the state houses that were NOT trump supporters.

the reason you may so surprised (and also pushing the same idea yourself), is that the media desperately keeps trying to frame all these things that way. trump bad, not trump good. all things bad are by trump supporters, all things good are by not trump supporters.

and those state house protesters were not heavily armed. some of them were armed. period. if you really want an example of "heavily armed", that can be arranged for you.
 

mistaken1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
well brandon friedman, you may be quite surprised to know that there were black people at the state houses, and there were white people at the protests last night.

you may also be aghast that there are black trump supporters at both as well.

and just for good measure, there were people at the state houses that were NOT trump supporters.

the reason you may so surprised (and also pushing the same idea yourself), is that the media desperately keeps trying to frame all these things that way. trump bad, not trump good. all things bad are by trump supporters, all things good are by not trump supporters.

and those state house protesters were not heavily armed. some of them were armed. period. if you really want an example of "heavily armed", that can be arranged for you.

Seems brandon does not understand the difference between a protest (where nothing is broken) and a riot (where many things are broken).
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
The optics are horrible, and they shouldn't have held him down so long, but if the crowd was hostile, and he's struggling trying to get sympathy violence from the onlookers...makes it a tougher call.

A hostile crowd does not make the call "tougher".

It should have expedited the decision to get the person under arrest away from the scene. It didn't, so how threatened did the cops really feel? I would say, not much, at all...
 
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Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
I watced it till about 2 am last nite, all I can say they are very lucky that it rained a lot, could have been a lot worse, well see what happens tonight,

I wrestled in high school, one match a guy was choking me I thought to .. Ref said if you can talk, you are getting air,

You are getting air... But, how much?
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
Well,,,
From what I see there are three officers holding him down. And a forth standing near.
Do you really think, that with as many people that was there, that were taking pictures of the event, on their phones,,,that the officers would just kill him in public? For everyone to see?
Don't get me wrong. There are some bad cops. I've run up against one or two in my life.
But I have seen criminal resist arrest, especially black criminals, more often than not.View attachment 199107

Oh...

No, I do not think they had the intention of killing the guy just terrible training and tactical decision making.

I may have misunderstood your original post.

My bad.
 
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