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WalknTrot

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Hey now, OC and I both love pickled beets and sauekraut on our hotdogs or with ribs, and you really should try sauerkraut salad sometime, it's really good!
I love that cold kraut salad made with onion, bell pepper, pimento, oil and a bit of sugar. Makes a very refreshing summer slaw-type thing. Also, in the winter sometimes I'll get a craving for a sweet/sour dish and it fills the bill perfectly.
 

Terrwyn

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I ordered a small order from Smart & Final this morning because I wanted a Mexican cheese mix for my casserole.
Also wanted to surprise my neighbor with some ice cream. Ordered about 12 items . OJ, candy, cheese, bacon and some Jack Daniels pulled pork for lunch. From what I could tell the shortages were spareribs and roasts online anyway. They had everything I ordered.
 

workhorse

Veteran Member
Just thinking out loud if there is a shortage of aluminum cans one would think the price of scrap aluminum cans would be setting new records. National avg .28 cents a pound been there since January. Sheet aluminum.19-.20 a pound again since January. Some one else might be able to explain it but not me. This information is from my iScrap app and what I am getting at local scrap yard.
 

Tarryn

Senior Member
I have looked for that book online - the nearest I can get is Upton Sinclair's "The Book of Life" (1921) where he seems to talk about the ups and downs of a socialist/communist life.

Sinclair was, of course, "progressive" - and enjoyed much the "Woodward and Bernstein" affection of his age. He set the tone for the New Deal.

Dobbin

Time to become a bicycle repairman. per a book called What to do when the Communist come. I don't have authors name.
The author may be on to something. I know people at a local bicycle repair shop, they are 3-4 weeks behind on repairs with almost no new cycles to sell. I think last count was 6 new on the floor cheapest one over 2k. Some models are backordered to Jan/Feb 2021
Tubes are out of stock all over the country, many of their supplies/replacement parts for repairs are backordered too.
Some of the issue is from China supply chain, some of it is from so many people wanting to start cycling.
 

kenny1659

Veteran Member
We made a WM trip yesterday store was busy but it was Saturday afternoon. I got the last large package 12 ct. of toilet paper in the brand we use and toilet bowl cleaner. DW was up in the Austin area for the past week and could not find most things on our list, but we got everything we needed. Prices were around normal, beef skirts had dropped almost $2.00 per pound but were still over $6.00 per pound. I remember paying .25 per pound for them but that was a long time ago.

Some holes in the shelves in the cleaning isles, thin products and store brand products spread over large areas of shelves in the cleaning and paper products isles. Canned veggies looked picked over but it was Saturday. Employees were stocking in most aisles except cleaning and paper products. Canned drink aisle was bare in places but most name brand drinks were there. Got DW stocked up on Dr. Peppers so I did my part in preventing a mass murder.

Almost forgot, no eggs except for organic high priced dozens. One whole freezer section was empty, no tags on the shelves. It was working I could see frost on the shelves. Might have just been repaired .
 

Nich1

Veteran Member
Hey now, OC and I both love pickled beets and sauekraut on our hotdogs or with ribs, and you really should try sauerkraut salad sometime, it's really good!
I was just a playin' with ya'. I, too, like sauerkraut. A favorite meal is kielbosa with mashed potatoes and topped with sauerkraut. Beets, not so much. My mother and grandmother used to boil eggs and put them in the beet jars to "pickle." I just couldn't get that far to even taste one. Beets have an "earthy" taste to me. I'm sure if I was hungry enough, I would eat them. In fact, that's one of the mantras of my kitchen...get them hungry enough and they'll eat anything. :-)
 

Ravekid

Veteran Member
Here is some commercial meat price information I came across recently:

One thing I like to do is take road trip to small mom and pop diners and ice cream shops. There is a shop in the far, far off suburb of Indy that is one of those basic American fare and ice cream shops that is only opened seasonally. The building is older, likely from the 50s or 60s, if not even older. The owner posted a few months back when they opened that meat prices were very high. They had to raise the price of burgers, chicken sandwiches, etc. by $1.00. This place wasn't charging all that much that I recall, so an extra $1.00 per item wasn't too horrible. Well, about a week ago the posted again that their meat prices had fallen back and they were reducing the menu prices by $1.00. I'm not sure how they sourced their meats though.
 

Nich1

Veteran Member
Here is some commercial meat price information I came across recently:

One thing I like to do is take road trip to small mom and pop diners and ice cream shops. There is a shop in the far, far off suburb of Indy that is one of those basic American fare and ice cream shops that is only opened seasonally. The building is older, likely from the 50s or 60s, if not even older. The owner posted a few months back when they opened that meat prices were very high. They had to raise the price of burgers, chicken sandwiches, etc. by $1.00. This place wasn't charging all that much that I recall, so an extra $1.00 per item wasn't too horrible. Well, about a week ago the posted again that their meat prices had fallen back and they were reducing the menu prices by $1.00. I'm not sure how they sourced their meats though.
That place is a keeper! Generally, when the prices go up, they never come down again.
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
Got told at the local market that the delivery truck driver said there was a lot in the warehouse but it was being directed to the big stores and the mom'n'pops were getting squeezed out. fwiw - hearsay.
 

coloradohermit

Veteran Member
The meat manager at our local small town Kroger mentioned that about stuff being shifted to bigger stores in the city. Tomorrow I have to go down to the city for an appointment and I plan to stop at a bigger Kroger to see if they have the few things that our store has been out of for a while now. I'll be curious to see if the city prices are higher than our town prices.
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
I'll be curious to see if the city prices are higher than our town prices.

It wouldn't surprise me if the answer is "yes."

If there are food items I truly want that are out near my home, I can usually find them in West Des Moines, but I will pay a much higher price.

Most of the time I talk myself into making a cheaper substitution. This is easier now because it's summer and fresh fruit and produce is widely available and affordable in my area.
 

abby normal

insert appropriate adjective here
Not groceries but, wanted to put this somewhere.

My kid is turning 5 in a few weeks and he loves dressing up like super heroes. This year he wants a Batman mask. I go on eBay and type "Batman mask " into the search. First 20 results were medical masks. I sighed deeply and added "costume " to my search, which brought up what I was looking for.

Told hubby about that, and how 6 months ago I would have gotten results for regular dress-up masks. Just another reminder that the world has changed and I'm not liking it.
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
I like either brats or sausage with mashed potatoes. I like cabbage shredded with some carrots as a salad on the side. It's the fermentation part of sauerkraut that throws the tastes off for me, I think. Fermented cabbage tastes metalic to me. Fermented dill pickles don't.

I'm working on it. I know it's good for me.
 

energy_wave

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Corn relief has finally come to my local store. Now .50 cents an ear, down from $1.29. Ground beef is a bit lower at $3.89 a LB for 80% lean which is lower then before Covid. Used to be $4.67 a LB so maybe there's now a glut of beef causing a lower price. Better take advantage of it. Chicken and Pork are around a buck a LB more then normal on sale, yet I can still find a few good deals when it's marked down for a quick sale. Otherwise, just about everything is back to normal in my area. Blueberry's are $7.00 a pint though. I just grabbed a bag of dark red cherries at $2.99 a lb and they are dam good.
 
I was just a playin' with ya'. I, too, like sauerkraut. A favorite meal is kielbosa with mashed potatoes and topped with sauerkraut. Beets, not so much. My mother and grandmother used to boil eggs and put them in the beet jars to "pickle." I just couldn't get that far to even taste one. Beets have an "earthy" taste to me. I'm sure if I was hungry enough, I would eat them. In fact, that's one of the mantras of my kitchen...get them hungry enough and they'll eat anything. :-)
Our secret sauce, hunger.
 

Wargus

Mildly off
It’s not the metal that’s in short supply. It’s manufacturing capacity.
I would have to agree with this. We have a large metal fabrication shop and construction campus (steel structural building components and steel commercial buildings), we have not seen a shortage of raw inputs for these. However where we are seeing shortages are in our subcontractors material. Mostly on the steel assemblies for electrical components and for other complex manufactured components. Also trucking/shipping of these items seem to be severely delayed. We have subcontractors with back-orders for HVAC systems (RTU/EVS) and electrical control systems.
 

mzkitty

I give up.
I like either brats or sausage with mashed potatoes. I like cabbage shredded with some carrots as a salad on the side. It's the fermentation part of sauerkraut that throws the tastes off for me, I think. Fermented cabbage tastes metalic to me. Fermented dill pickles don't.

I'm working on it. I know it's good for me.

You can either lightly rinse the kraut in a fine mesh strainer, or see if one of your stores has the sauerkraut made with Champaigne or wine. It's good.

What I like to do is saute a small onion in butter, then put the drained sauerkraut in and lightly fry it until it starts to get sort of brownish around the edges. Then mix that up with some cooked noodles. Fit for a king (or queen) I tells ya. Even better if you add in some chopped up bits of leftover pork.

:)
 

Bones

Living On A Prayer
I could actually live quite quite happily on beets, especially pickled or sweet and sour, as well as saurkraut.

I posted a good recipe in Granny's Kitchen here for a very easy and wonderful kraut, if interested.

Our Aldi store's canned vegetables aisle was the same in the first wave wipeout of the virus thing. Beets, kraut, garbanzo beans, and spinach was about all there was after the teeming hoards decimated the inventory.

Fine by me. My rule is generally I'll eat almost anything which doesn't eat me first.
 

Terrwyn

Veteran Member
Spent an hour this morning early bending my brain trying to see what holes there are in my preps. Came up with
hangers, mrs Myers dish soap, scissors, DH's shaving cream and blades. This is getting harder and harder to do.
I am suffering prepper burnout. Anyway ordered on Amazon for the usual reasons.
 

coloradohermit

Veteran Member
"bending my brain trying to see what holes there are in my preps "
When I started prepping, and periodically later, I'd take a notepad with me and make notes as I walked thru a normal day.
Get up and put on clothes(got enough clothes? got Tide?)
Go to the bathroom( got enough TP?) Wash hands and face(soap). Brush teeth(got toothpaste, denture adhesive?)
Breakfast(got coffee? orange juice? eggs? cereal/milk? pancake mix?)
Chores(Dishwasher soap? vacuum bags? dust cloths) whatever the normal days chores need.
Lunch(bread? condiments? meats? leftovers?)

etc etc.
I found that this didn't tax my brain like trying to think of everything.
 

Slydersan

Veteran Member
What I like to do is saute a small onion in butter, then put the drained sauerkraut in and lightly fry it until it starts to get sort of brownish around the edges. Then mix that up with some cooked noodles. Fit for a king (or queen) I tells ya. Even better if you add in some chopped up bits of leftover pork.

:)

That's a Pittsburgh, PA-area staple. We call it Haluski (halushski). I think it's a Polish dish, but most everyone around there has some kind of variation of it.
 

Nich1

Veteran Member
OK, let me confess on the sauerkraut. I rinse it, too, and then as it is cooking, I add a little. bit of granulated sugar (gasp!). That takes the edge off of it.

Just for a laugh...my grandmother used to make sauerkraut. When that stuff was ripe, even the flies left home! Needless to say, I did not partake much of her fare.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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They make flour out of that chicken bacteria?

Who knew!!!

Good to know!!

LOL
Um, no. Do everyone in your family a favor: DON’T COOK ANYTHING :p



What Is Semolina Flour?
Written by Erin Huffstetler
Updated 07/09/20
IN THIS ARTICLE

Semolina is a high-gluten flour made from hard durum wheat. It has a rather coarse texture, yellow color, and is high in gluten protein. The high gluten content means the flour is especially well suited for making pasta, but this flour is also a common ingredient in bread and baked goods as well as couscous. Semolina is available throughout the world but is most popular in Italy.
 

nomifyle

TB Fanatic
I know there are several threads going about food shortages, and to prep up. I'm looking for specific things that are now short and may bet worse.

Alaska prepper just did a video and he said pickles are short in supply. When I was dt there were no pickles and just a few jars of relish, I bought two, although I already have some and last year I stocked up on sweet pickles and bread and butter pickles at DT. Neither of us like dill pickles, although I do have a few jars of jerkin dills.

Another thing are paper towels, I mean none at the dollar tree I went to and only a hand full of crappy ones at walmart.

Alaska prepper also mentioned olives, but I probably would not eat an olive if I was starving.

Anyone else see specific shortages.

Judy
 

LtPiper

Taking cover
This shouldn’t be a hot items but I tried to find a 32oz spray bottle yesterday.

i went to Walmart, Sam’s, Dollar Tree, Kroger’s and Family Dollar.

not a single one had ANY size spray bottles in stock.
 

hd5574

Veteran Member
Central Virginia...tonight.....Walmart
No good paper towels...no yeast...no organic apple cider vinegar.
No three way light bulbs.
Some canned meat..but mostly just front row
Very little packaged lunch meat.

Lots of off brand frozen foods.
Was able to grab several GOYA..items...just to make liberals heads spin.
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
-Central Iowa:
Yes, pickles . . . been ongoing since April -- I'll be making my own in about a week
- TP goes in and out, along with paper towels (get there first thing) -- bring back the "rag bag" if possible
- rubbing alcohol and peroxide (because of the plastic bottles -- polymer sourced in China, per Packy)
- shoes (they go in and out -- boy's shoes are hard to find in my area)
- cotton clothing (lots of 4X and 5X at Walmart right now -- shortage of smaller sizes
- certain vitamins and minerials (esp. zinc, Vitamin C)
- cleaning supplies (in and out) -- Dawn and Clorox have started appearing again
- bread flour and yeast (in and out -- more available lately)
- puzzles (hit and miss)
- art supplies (hit and miss)
- computers (electronics) -- hit and miss -- it's back to school time, so buy any new netbooks, etc NOW
- printer ink
- some garden chemicals (Roundup gone) [try vinegar with Dawn and salt for sidewalk weeds]
- sewing elastic (cone thread in general -- hit and miss -- cotton fabric)
- cheese cloth
- appliances
- some car parts
- bottled water* (see below)

This is just off the top of my head. Keep in mind that plastic bottles are going to be an ongoing problem -- I reinstalled a PUR water filter on my kitchen sink faucet to avoid the bottled water problem (and got several extra cartridges).

Added: When deciding what to buy and store, I try to think in terms of "raw materials," like vinegar and baking soda, which have many uses. I also try to think of alternatives, like a shampoo bar instead of shampoo in a plastic bottle. That way of thinking frees up both space and money.
 
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nomifyle

TB Fanatic
Its a hot mess with trying to find things, I just looked around for pint canning jars and if you can find them (online) they are like $26 a case, I do have some but wanted more.

I have shampoo and conditioner but may add some more.

I wanted some corn starch the other day, I know I have some stored, but where in the heck is it. I wanted it to use as bath powder. I haven't used regular bath powder in years and years.

I guess I didn't realize that about plastic bottles. Makes me want to run out and buy more cases of water. Although I did jus order an extra set of filters for my berkey.

After I posted this thread I thought maybe it wouldn't get much response what with the other threads that are going on now,.

Thanks for your reponses.

Judy
 
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