Contagion Preps for coronavirus

COelf

Contributing Member
I recall when the SARS epidemic was a concern that a nurse recommended keeping the patient "on the dry side". I took that to mean don't push the fluids. Maybe because of the potential for fluid perfusion to the lungs. Anyone have any thoughts on that?
I would give them what they wanted to drink because of fever. The lungs are trying to rid themselves of the virus and blockages by coughing. If the lungs are filling with fluid decreasing the amount of fluids will not help because the body will take all the fluid it needs to try to rid the lungs of the virus and the buildup of mucus. Keeping them on the dry side may do more harm than good.
 

Old Gray Mare

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I just realized I don't have a working vaporizer. Growing up for chest congestion Mom religiously used a vaporizer in our room and rubbed in the Vicks Vaporub on our chests. Vick's we have.

I vaguely remember Mom making a kind of tent over the head of my brother's bed to funnel the steam from the vaporizer into when he came down with the croup.
 

Old Gray Mare

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I posted the thread: A Sick Room kit-in-a-bucket for my family with the coronavirus in mind, (but not limited to) in case there was a need to set up a sick or quarantine room for a member of my family. With the event of vaccines for most childhood diseases some may not know how to do this. I hope this thread is a starting point for those wanting to learn how. A chat with a health care provider hopefully will catch anything I missed or needs tailored to their patient's unique needs. - OGM

Link to thread:
 

Old Gray Mare

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Personal First Aid kit for each family member

I posted the thread: Personal First Aid kit for each family member with the coronavirus in mind, (but not limited to) in case there was a need for it. The idea of Personal First Aid kit for each family member is to help prevent someone picking up a contagious virus from commonly used items found in a first aid kit. Babs suggested a shared tooth paste tube could also spread a virus.

link to thread:

Stay safe everyone.
 
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SouthernBreeze

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Why don't we all discuss what possible herbs/home treatments we might be able to use? Here's my list, in no particular order. I would welcome feedback:

Resveratrol
Vitamin C
Green tea
Garlic capsules
St John's Wort
Skullcap tea
Quercin/bromelain
Curcumin/bioperine (I think Summertime said take this late in the infection)
Shiitake mushroom capsules
Mint tea
Thanks for posting that list! I can't take the normal immune boosters, and have been waiting for someone to post something like this list to give me an idea of what I might be able to take! I guess I need to restock my red wine and Turmeric/Curcumin capsules. I already eat a lot of garlic, and drink green tea ocassionally.
 

Old Gray Mare

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Why don't we all discuss what possible herbs/home treatments we might be able to use? Here's my list, in no particular order. I would welcome feedback:

Resveratrol
Vitamin C
Green tea
Garlic capsules
St John's Wort
Skullcap tea
Quercin/bromelain
Curcumin/bioperine (I think Summertime said take this late in the infection)
Shiitake mushroom capsules
Mint tea
The British didn't send tea out with their troops just for morale purposes. I read somewhere that it help to regulate body temperature both in hot and cold climates. I believe green tea is used in traditional Chinese medicine for a similar reason.
 

Terrwyn

Veteran Member
One thing I thought should be mentioned if one self quarantines is to be careful handling mail and pkgs. You can get sick from the Post person handling them if they are sick.
 

Limner

Veteran Member
Ok, stupid question time. The Dude and I both have planners...him for homeschool and me, for general household and school stuff. Stickers make it more fun, so I ordered some pretty garden flowers and washi tape, and the Dude some Snoopy stickers from Wish, a Chinese online ordering site. They were cheap and fun, but now I'm worried. How DO you disinfect paper products that come from China?
 

Old Gray Mare

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Ok, stupid question time. The Dude and I both have planners...him for homeschool and me, for general household and school stuff. Stickers make it more fun, so I ordered some pretty garden flowers and washi tape, and the Dude some Snoopy stickers from Wish, a Chinese online ordering site. They were cheap and fun, but now I'm worried. How DO you disinfect paper products that come from China?
Not a stupid question.You're right to be concerned there is evidence the 1918 influenza virus was spread via the mail. Cases were back tracked along the mail carrier's route.

We don't know how long this virus remains viable outside a host or how long and under what conditions. Temperature, humidity and the makeup of the surface it is on can effect how long a virus remains viable. I'm not seeing any source where they're sharing this info. Below is a CDC link to a 163 report that may or may not have that answer.


Guideline for Disinfection and Sterilization in Healthcare Facilities (2008)

 

forpetesake

Contributing Member
Not a stupid question.You're right to be concerned there is evidence the 1918 influenza virus was spread via the mail. Cases were back tracked along the mail carrier's route.

We don't know how long this virus remains viable outside a host or how long and under what conditions. Temperature, humidity and the makeup of the surface it is on can effect how long a virus remains viable. I'm not seeing any source where they're sharing this info. Below is a CDC link to a 163 report that may or may not have that answer.


Guideline for Disinfection and Sterilization in Healthcare Facilities (2008)

I read somewhere 48 hours on smooth surfaces, and several weeks if in fabric, carpet, etc
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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Limner... anything you can buy in the stores now was almost certainly shipped months ago. There shouldn't be any concern about anything you already have. I suspect almost anything that's shipped via cargo ship is en route long enough for most pathogens to die off (prions being the major exception, and not applicable here)

Summerthyme
 

fish hook

Veteran Member
For the record... any speculation regarding weaponized source in subsequent threads should be tempered with the following knowledge. With the earth's diminishing magnetic field combined with the approaching solar minimum, cosmic radiation penetration to our planet has been on the increase for several years now. Substantial scientific evidence exists which indicates that viral mutation (among other areas) is on the rise.
Despite the fact that this is a doom prepping site, knowledge is our best weapon looking forward.

Electron Flux and Cosmic Ray Anomaly Before H1N1 Outbreak
more...


Cosmic Rays, Neutrons And The Mutation Rate In Evolution
more...


Weakened magnetic field, cosmic rays and Zika virus outbreak
more...


Viral Mutation Rates
more...


As you can see, there's adequate study from multiple, reliable sources to temper our impulse towards malevolent intervention. On the other hand, there's an excellent post by Switchback in the TB2K Q thread which addresses many preventative and preparedness considerations here...
Only worry about those things that you can do something about.Worry and stress lowers your immune system
 

Limner

Veteran Member
This stuff was in country, ordered last week, and is on it 's way. I suspect I'll make very sure whoever handles bringing it in washes well and uses sanitizer, and the envelope will be fed to the wood stove (kinda sad, since the exotic address makes for a fun geography lesson). The stickers will be sealed in a baggie, I suspect. Maybe pitch the bag for a fresh one and go from there?
 

Heliobas Disciple

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Copying this over from the thread on MAIN.

Since there are no antibiotics that work for this outbreak, here are a few natural herbal support and supplementation notes for the corona virus. They could save your life:

Vitamin D The only supplement I recommend adding if your diet is adequately plant based. Recommended blood test levels are around 35 ng/mL, but that’s just for adequate calcium metabolism. For immune function, required levels are closer to 50 ng/mL. Supplementation with 5,000 IU daily is necessary.

Andrographis Also called the “king of bitters”, this herb has shown excellent results when combined with Siberian Ginseng in large trials for the flu. It has antiviral effect and also improves GI tract function and may help regulate cytokine activity and prevent the cytokine storm. dried herb - 1.5- 5 g/day; tea- 1/2- 1 teasp. steeped in 8 oz water, drink 4oz 3 X day tincture- 20-60 drops 3 X day. standardized tablets- 100mg. w/ 5mg andrographolide and deoxyandrographolide, take 4 tablets 3Xday

Astragalus as a preventative, it should be withdrawn once symptoms begin. Take 3-5 grams of root daily in capsule, or simmer 2-3 TBS in a pint of water and drink through the day. Tinctures are taken at 1 tsp doses once or twice daily.
Garlic Directly antiviral, ameliorates influenza symptoms, and its pungent compounds have been found to reduce cytokine storm. 3-4 cloves daily is ideal, as close to freshly cut as possible (chop first).

Herbs that are directly anti-influenza: Note: for most antiviral herbs, frequent dosing is relatively important in order to maintain physiological levels of herbal medicine ahead of the viral replication curves. Viral populations can easily more than double in an 8 hour period, so it is beneficial to work with antiviral and anti-inflammatory herbs on a 6-8 dose/day schedule.

Elderberry Amazing clinical results against most influenza strains. Safe for H1N1, perhaps caution in H5N1 or other cytokine-storm-inducing strains due to potential TNF stimulation. Use syrups (1TBS 3-5 times daily) or a fresh preserved succus / juice at the rate of 1tsp every 2-3 hours. Elder flower tea is useful also, as a cooling way to induce sweating in the latter phases. Echinacea There is evidence of activity against influenza viruses, especially when combined with Thuja and Wild Indigo (Esberitox). It is potentially contraindicated in cytokine-storm influenza. Use Esberitox, or a good fresh tincture at doses of 1tsp. every 3-4 hours. Usually best at the first signs of imbalance – fatigue, sore throat, headache.

Herbs that reduce cytokine storm activity and buffer “hot” influenza symptoms:

Baikal Scullcap root Reduces cytokine storm and acts as an inhibitor of influenza symptoms. Take 60-90 drops three times a day of a good tincture. Avoid in cases of diarrhea.

Salvia milthiorrhiza root Immunomodulant for cytokine storm, esp. with a constricted, wiry pulse. Take ½ tsp. of a good tincture three times daily.

Ginger and Turmeric Both rhizomes are anti-inflammatory and inhibit inflammatory cytokines. This protects respiratory tissue as well as relieving symptoms. Most indicated in the initial phases of the flu as warming agents. Add fresh ginger to teas, or use powders of both at doses of 1- 3 grams 2-3 times daily (about ¼ to ½ tsp.).

St. John’s wort This is a potent antiviral herb, prized as a restorative in deficient, depleted constitutions. Modern evidence points not only to its pharmacological effect on dampening the cytokine storm by suppressing IL-6 and MAPK, but also to its targeted and specific antiviral effect against the H5N1 strains of bird flu, both in the petri dish and in infected poultry. The dose of tincture is 90-120 drops three times daily.

Adjuvant herbs (beyond the virus and inflammation):

Dry, spasmodic cough: A very intense and painful cough can accompany H1N1 2009 influenza. It usually appears after the first 24 hours or so, and affects the beginning of the bronchial tree causing violent coughing with whole-body spasms. The warm drying expectorants (such as Elecampane, Mullein, and Aster) are probably best avoided in favor of the soothing, demulcent expectorants listed below.

Licorice Its antiviral action may be due in part to the inhibition of virulence factors such as the hemagglutin proteins on the viral capsule. While it is still unclear if it has specific inhibitory effect on H1N1 or H5N1 strains, it remains an excellent demulcent for people of all ages and reliably loosens the dry cough within a day or at most two. This is especially important to help with disturbed sleep. Tincture, 2 droppers in a little water every 2-4 hours. Infusion, 1 TBS of root per cup. 1-2 TBS of infusion every 2-4 hours.

Pleurisy root, Butterfly weed This demulcent expectorant is particularly indicated if the re is a burning sensation in the chest wall that accompanies the cough. Any spitting of blood, while perhaps a clear sign of cytokine storm and certainly of the need for immediate treatment, was traditionally an indication for this herb. It is also relaxing and mildly diaphoretic. Take 30-60 drops of the tincture 3 times a day.

Lobelia Strongly antispasmodic, it relieves the whole-body paroxysms associated with the dry bronchial cough and is also a gentle expectorant. Use 10-30 drops of tincture every 3 hours or so, depending on tolerance because it is quite nauseating if given in excess.

Wild Cherry, Peach pit These herbs contain glycosides of hydrogen cyanide (HCN), which in small doses is calmative and strongly antispasmodic to the lungs. They are valuable as part of a comprehensive protocol that also includes expectorants and antiviral herbs. Cold-infusion is best. Heating dissipates HCN readily tincture is dosed 5-30 drops bid. Wild Cherry bark syrup: 1 pint overnight cold infusion of 1 oz bark; strain, add 2 lbs honey.

Honeysuckle flower This remedy from the Chinese pharmacopoeia helps to cool and break a fever. Best during the first and early second stages of the flu to release internal heat and bring warmth to the surface. Usually infused, along with Platycodon for the lungs, Catnip as another antiviral diaphoretic, peach pit as a pulmonary antispasmodic, and Licorice. Catnip herb Especially useful as a mildly calmative antiviral diaphoretic for kids. Usually added to tea blends, perhaps with a little Ginger and/or Licorice.

Peppermint Has some mild antiviral quality, and certainly is cooling and helps break a fever, as well as improve the flavor of herbs such as Boneset. A classic formula: equal parts of Peppermint, Boneset, Elderflower, and Yarrow in the late first / early second stage of the flu, when heat is manifest but the skin still dry and the body still achy, with a tense, tight pulse.

Bitter tonic herbs with antiviral / mucosal tonic effect: Goldenseal Not antiviral, but astringent and tonifying to the upper respiratory mucosa. Can alleviate congestion and improve appetite in the second or third stages of the flu.
 

Old Gray Mare

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Chlorine Bleach for sanitation, sterilization and water purification.

Buried in the Clorox website was a page stating that regular Chlorine bleach without additives or scents should be used for water purification proposes.

Bleach is only good for sterilization and water purification for 5 months from the date of manufacture.

It degrades over time. One thing that can be done to verify its potency or lack of it is to use Chorine test stips to determing potency. Last time I checked a vial of 100 strips could be picked up on Amazon for about $5.00. USD. That was a while back. I used them in a commercial facility where food was prepared.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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You can now buy bleach tablets, which seem to store essentially forever. WalMart has them in the laundry aisle. At one time, I'd done the math and figured out that each bottle is the equivalent of 3 gallons of 5% bleach. But the nice thing is, you can make a fresh solution every time, and not have to worry about degradation in storage.

Pool shock is another way to go. However, despite it having a long shelf life if kept sealed, it seems to break down the plastic containers they put it in. I've gone to repackaging it into wide mouth cann8ng jars, with several layers of plastic wrap under a plastic lid.

Summerthyme
 

SouthernBreeze

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I use bleach a lot to clean the stains out of our overused coffee cups. I can tell if it is getting old, because it won't take the stain out right away. I will check into those bleach tablets.
 

Double_A

TB Fanatic
These are the preps I'm currently working on for my family - just in case:

talk to healthcare professional about appropriate care & treatment for family members
Get supplies needed to set up a sick/quarantine room
Make sure appropriate OTC medications and scripts are filled and in date
Have ready to eat or easy to prepare meals like canned soup in stock, flavored Jello
Some rehydration fluid or powders could be a good thing to have on hand (Pedialyte for nutrients and electrolytes, I also like: Emergen-C - no I don't buy stock in either company)
Paper towels, baby wipes, disposable plates and cups could come in handy
cleaning and sanitation supplies
Check medical equipment thermometer and BP cuff.
A supply of good old fashion tea

I may pick up some CURCUMIN. ainitfunny seems to set store by it.

I'm just a concerned Mom not a health care professional.
Best advice I've heard lately
 

mawmaw

Veteran Member
I guess this is a good place to ask. I have copd and Fibro, (breathing and immune problems) I do not get the flu shot because that is the only time I get it !! Would a pneumonia shot (never had one) help me with this bug or make it worst? Thank you in advance
 

SouthernBreeze

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I guess this is a good place to ask. I have copd and Fibro, (breathing and immune problems) I do not get the flu shot because that is the only time I get it !! Would a pneumonia shot (never had one) help me with this bug or make it worst? Thank you in advance
Good question. I'm also wondering how effective the pneumonia vaccine would be on this particular virus?
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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The pneumonia vaccine only protects against several strains of pneumococcal *bacterial * pneumonia. It's unlikely to do anything to protect against this coronavirus. BUT... it could help prevent you from developing a secondary infection if you survive the coronavirus (or influenza) infection.

Summerthyme
 

ktrapper

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Lomatium Root: Possibly the Best Anti-Viral
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Lomatium Root (Lomatium dissectum, formerly Leptotaenia dissecta syn. multfida)OTHER NAMES: Fernleaf Biscuitroot, Desert Parsley, Indian Parsnip, Toza Root
Lomatium may very well be the best antiviral we have. It’s certainly the best and strongest I’ve ever used both topically and internally, and especially for the lungs. So why haven’t you heard of it?
Lomatium was highly regarded by the Native American peoples of the high plateaus of the Pacific Northwest, who used it as a primary herb for all sorts of infections and lung ailments. Unfortunately, by the time that white settlers were making inroads in the region, medical science had already “advanced” past the stage where they believed there was anything left to learn from native peoples about native plants. Sure, frontier medicine might do in a pinch. But modern, official, civilized medicine (i.e. purgative, cathartics, and electroshock) was to be preferred.
We’re still feeling the repercussions of this bias. Look at the shelves of your local natural product store: almost every major American drug plant in commerce is either an East Coast native (Goldenseal, Cranberry, Willow, Slippery Elm), developed by European scientists (Echinacea, Black Cohosh, Saw Palmetto), or recreational (Coffee, Tobacco, Marijuana). Only now are we really beginning to look at our vast Western pharmacopeia.
In retrospect, we could have looked a lot sooner. And it’s not like we didn’t have clues. Back in 1920, a young physician named Ernst Krebs published an account of his experience with Lomatium in the Bulletin of the Nevada State Board of Health. Krebs had been assigned by the Indian Bureau to the Washoe reservation, and he was there when the Spanish flu hit. (The so-called Spanish flu was an avian strain that killed more than 500,000 Americans, and between 20 and 100 million worldwide):
“…Whether a coincidence or not, there was not a single death in the Washoe tribe from influenza or its complications, although Indians living in other parts of the State where the root did not grow died in numbers. It was such a remarkable coincidence that a practicing physician who saw apparently hopeless cases recover without any other medication or care of any kind investigated the root. A preparation was prepared and employed in a great many cases among the whites, from the mildest to the most virulent types of influenza, and it proved, among other things, that it is the nearest approach we have today to a specific in epidemic influenza and the accompanying pneumonia… Other physicians were induced to give it a trial, with the same results. It is beyond the experimental stage, as its therapeutic action in this direction is established and beyond any doubt. The cases in which it has been used run into the hundreds. There is probably no therapeutic agent so valuable in the treatment of influenzal pneumonia.”
Too good to be true? Well, we have no reason to doubt him. (Contrary to popular belief, this is not the Ernst T. Krebs Jr. who would later get all quack-y claiming he could cure cancer with “vitamin B17.”) But his account was published, and then, seemingly, ignored.
The next we hear of Lomatium is from a researcher named Percy Train who was sent to Nevada by the U.S. government to screen local plants for potential drug development. He spent six years there, starting in the mid 1930s, and found nothing that even touched Lomatium for sheer germ-killing firepower. In the words of the late, great herbalist Michael Moore, “It killed just about every microbe his research group tested it against, and you could douse rats in it without hurting them.”
Train published his book in 1941. Once again, published, then ignored.
Fast forward to today. Lomatium is still virtually unknown, and there still isn’t a shred of formal research on it. There isn’t a marketing push. Nobody has ever gotten on the Oprah Show to tout it.
But the plant has had two strong advocates: the great naturopathic doctor, John Bastyr; and the great herbalist, Michael Moore. It’s because of these two men, I believe, that the knowledge of Lomatium is still alive today. Most everyone who uses Lomatium now can trace their knowledge back to either Moore or Bastyr, either directly, or indirectly, through one of their thousands of students.
And now, finally, the word is just beginning to get out, as fears about modern-day H1N1 have begun prompting people to look for solutions.
Bird flu, swine flu, three-toed sloth flu I don’t care. Lomatium shines in viral infections, period. I’ve been using it for over a decade, and I’ve never met a viral infection where it hasn’t at least made a dent. Even in infections where I didn’t expect it to work for example a friend with Hep C, who took Lomatium on the advice of a naturopathic doctor, and saw her viral load plummet it’s worked. In Chronic Fatigue with a (presumed) viral component, it’s worked. In shingles, it’s worked. Michael Moore suggests using it for what he calls the “slow viruses”: HPV, Mono, Hep C, CMV, and (he suggests tentatively) HIV.
But Lomatium seems to specialize in viruses of the respiratory tract. Many of the plant’s antiviral compounds are excreted out through the mucosa of the lungs. So on their way out the body, they end up exactly where they’re needed. First, they thin congested, boggy mucous and work as a mild expectorant. But again, we come back to where Lomatium shines: as a stone cold germ-killer. For deep lung infections, I have found nothing that can match our modest little Biscuitroot. And if you’re one of those people whose every little sniffle or sneeze ends up sinking its claws into your chest, Lomatium is invaluable at the first sign. It can still be effective after an infection has already established itself.
Lomatium is also useful topically. For example, if you’re dealing with a wart, try soaking the pad of a band-aid in the standard tincture of Lomatium, and apply it over the area before going to bed. You ought to see shrinkage in 4-5 days.
Suppositories made with Lomatium, Western Red Cedar, and vitamin A are a standard naturopathic protocol in viral infections of the cervix, although I have no direct experience here.
SAFETY: Lomatium may cause a skin rash in as many as 1% of the people who take it. I’ve given Lomatium or Lomatium-containing products to close to 1,000 people, and I’ve heard of the rash four times. One was a woman who got it on her arms after taking Lomatium for a few days. She stopped taking the herb, and the rash went away a few days later. Another woman got a very mild rash on her neck, and continued taking the Lomatium because it was working so well. She just wore a turtleneck. The third woman got a head-to-toe rash and checked into the ER for some strong suppressive anti-inflammatories. Finally, I just heard this week of someone who took my Lomatium-containing cold’n’flu formula who saw a mild rash develop a few days in. The rash went away in a few days by itself.
There’s some debate in the medical herbalism community as to what causes the rash, and how to avoid it. Some say it depends on how the medicine is prepared. Lomatium is very rich in resins, they say, and there’s foam that should be skimmed from the top when you’re preparing it. Others cite Michael Moore’s take on the subject, which is that it’s not the herb itself, but a detox reaction to metabolic products of viral or bacterial die-off. He says that in 30 years, he’s never seen the rash in people who take Lomatium along with herbs that support detox. I’m not sure who I agree with. But, die-off or not, coincidence or not, I’ll say that I’ve only once seen the rash in people taking a good, Lomatium-based formula, with good supportive herbs.
DOSING: I dose Lomatium high, because I use it acutely. 60-90 drops of the tincture, 3-4 times a day.
 

Old Gray Mare

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Suggestions:

Remember to periodically sanitize commonly touched surfaces like doorknobs, handel on toilet, light switches, faucet handles, tables, counters, (if appropriate) chairs and cabinet handles, etc.

I'm going to sweetly ask family to let me wash clothing after one use. This means more work for me but if they bring something unwanted home on their clothes from work it hopefully it dies in the washer instead of hanging around in their bedrooms and getting an opportunity to pass something on to the family.

Shoes etc. have a home in the closet near the door so they don't track anything unwanted into the home.
 
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nomifyle

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Copying this over from the thread on MAIN.
Thanks, I actually have quite a few of these things and I regularly take 10,000 ius of D3 and also a good amount of Curcumin and zinc, among several other things. DH takes d3 daily but can't take Turmeric because he takes a blood thinner. According to our doctors both of us have good lungs, but we are 73 and 76.

Judy
 

JMG91

Veteran Member
I am pregnant right now and have to be careful about what herbs I take, but I plan to order some olive leaf extract, I take elderberry daily, and will pick up some fresh ginger and lemon to make a tea with this week. (That last one I can only take in small doses, as too much ginger can be dangerous for pregnant women.) I'm also going to pick up some more cranberry juice; it's excellent for viral infections.
 

COelf

Contributing Member
Be sure to take vitamin D safely. It is a fat-soluble vitamin and a large dose can cause problems of weakness, nausea, vomiting, and kidney problems. Here is a link from LiveScience which is an acceptable website to quote in our classes. Can Too Much Vitamin D Be Toxic?
I would think ironing clothing and mail would kill at least some of the viruses. Rember the anthrax scare when the CDC recommended you iron your mail? Washing clothing then ironing sounds good to me. If ironing can kill anthrax it could kill coronavirus. The one problem is that we know this pandemic is caused by a coronavirus with something else. The vaccine they attempted for the pig virus was a mix with the coronavirus to create a less-lethal virus for the pigs.
 

Old Gray Mare

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Coronavirus and OTC cough meds

Saw a pharmacist and requested the strongest OTC expectorant they had and he suggested Robitussin DM. I ask what it would do for supportive care for the coronavirus. He said: "Noth...(there was a pregnant pause here that gave birth to another)...ing.". I could almost see his brain switch gears. He told me it wasn't strong enough. Nothing OTC was. He said: at that point I should talk to my doctor for something stronger.

I picked up the DM anyway. YMMV.
 
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Heliobas Disciple

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Taken from past posts on TB, probably good idea to repost now:


Oral Rehydration Solution

One quart clean water
6 teaspoons or 2 tablespoons sugar
Half teaspoon each normal salt and potassium chloride “salt substitute”
or
Teaspoon “lite salt” it’s half/half sodium and potassium chlorides
Half teaspoon baking soda
For flavor, add-sugar type Kool-Aid at half strength
 

Old Gray Mare

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Taken from past posts on TB, probably good idea to repost now:


Oral Rehydration Solution

One quart clean water
6 teaspoons or 2 tablespoons sugar
Half teaspoon each normal salt and potassium chloride “salt substitute”
or
Teaspoon “lite salt” it’s half/half sodium and potassium chlorides
Half teaspoon baking soda
For flavor, add-sugar type Kool-Aid at half strength
Last I checked Kool-Aid had lactose in it. Potential allergen/intolerance. I picked up flavored Jello for the same purpose.
 

Old Gray Mare

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Suggestion: (Thanks Babs!)

Bought travel size toothpaste tubes today and gave one to each member of the family for their sole use so we are no longer sharing the same tube.

Also picked up packs of supposedly "flushable" wet wipes for each family member to take with. DH says he's not allowed to use them at work because they clogged up the toilet and a plumber had to be called.

Getting some blow back from family on my "over reaction" to the coronavirus and how it's nothing just like the Bird Flu. I pray they're right.
 

Heliobas Disciple

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Getting some blow back from family on my "over reaction" to the coronavirus and how it's nothing just like the Bird Flu. I pray they're right.
Me too :). Good natured teasing and ribbing because I told them all to go out now and get masks while they still are available locally - just a few weeks after I called them all and told them to go out and fill their gas tanks when Sulemani was killed. I'm now chicken little and the butt of jokes. I held my tongue for years because I didn't want to use up my 'warning' card if I did it too often. Not my fault we had two events that called for situational awareness in one month's time. My doctor family members are telling me it's nothing, the flu is worse. I had to give them a quick reality check. But like you, I pray they're right and that I have confirmation bias from living on TB this week discussing this.

HD
 
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