MNKYPOX Monkeypox - Consolidated Thread.

jward

jward

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Today, 10:45 AM
Monkeypox may not mutate as fast as coronaviruses, but that doesn’t mean it can’t adapt to its new hosts

Published: June 24, 2022 11.37am EDT

Connor Bamford
Research Fellow, Virology, Queen's University Belfast
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In general, large DNA viruses such as monkeypox are no different from other viruses, and their mutability is the basis for our ability to track and trace monkeypox outbreaks. They make mistakes and errors accumulate, which can be used as fuel for evolution and biological changes. There’s even evidence from the recent monkeypox outbreak that the host cell is directly mutating the virus genome.

Studies focusing on related poxviruses like the vaccinia virus have even uncovered new tricks they can use, which include rapidly amplifying the number of genes they use to attack our immune system. They could even borrow some of our own genes to help them infect us.

We can’t predict the trajectory that monkeypox evolution will take, so we must take the threat of this virus adapting to its new hosts (humans) seriously. And we need to use all the public health tools at our disposal to halt the current outbreak in all countries – including those where it is endemic.

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https://theconversation.com/monkeypo...w-hosts-183855
 
jward

jward

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Today, 10:33 AM
Translation Google

Monkey pox: the presence of the virus in sperm is “neither rare nor random”, according to Italian researchers
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By Le Parisien with AFP
June 30, 2022 at 1:53 p.m.
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The Italian team is now trying to determine how long the virus remains present in semen after the onset of symptoms. In one patient, DNA from the virus was detected three weeks after the onset of symptoms, even after the lesions disappeared, a phenomenon that Vaia said has been seen in the past in viral infections such as zika. This could indicate that the risk of transmission could be reduced by using condoms in the weeks following recovery.
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During their first study, they had observed through the culture of the virus in the laboratory that it was “present in the semen as a contagious virus and able to reproduce”, according to Mr. Vaia.
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https://www.leparisien.fr/societe/sa...XMIXV33IHA.php

Related to:
https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/...italy-may-2022
 
Tristan

Tristan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The tracker at Home | Monkeypoxtally has the number currently at 6531. At the doubling rate of (roughly) every 10 days, by the 11th it will likely be over 13k; over 26k by the 21st.

We'll see if the growth adheres to that projection, or at least the recognition of it does.


eta: I see phloydius has already taken the plunge... :chg:
 
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phloydius

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JeanCat said:
If you have had monkey pox will that protect you against smallpox? If you have worked a lot with cows (cowpox) will that protect you against monkey pox? Does having had chicken pox offer any protection against monkey pox?
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One of the original methods of protecting against smallpox that eventually lead to the development of a vaccine, was to give the patient a more mild version of one of the other pox viruses (orthopoxvirus). It would not mean they would not catch smallpox, but it would mean they have a very mild case of smallpox and were less likely to die. I think the one they used was cowpox.

Working with cows, or with cows that have cowpox, will not give you protection against monkeypox or smallpox -- I would THINK. (I am not a doctor). Catching cowpox, in theory, would offer some protection. That does NOT mean I would recommend intentionally catching cowpox! There are risks associated with cowpox, just like monkeypox.

Smallpox, monkeypox, and cowpox are all Orthopox viruses.
Chicken pox is not a Orthopox virus. Even though chicken pox has the word "pox" in the name, it has no relation to the other Orthopox viruses. Because of that, having chicken pox will offer no protection at all from monkeypox.

jward said:
Pandemic News @mildanalyst
Look like u can catch Monkeypox on a toilet seat. This will be fascinating.
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Someone should tweet back at them, it is not just toilet seats. You can catch Monkeypox from touching ANYTHING an infected person touches, maybe even days or weeks later (don't know how long currently).

jward said:
By Le Parisien with AFP
it was “present in the semen as a contagious virus and able to reproduce”
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Studying monkeypox virus concentrations in semen is much like doing a study on if the chairs should be rearranged on the Titanic while it is sinking! If you can transfer monkeypox by breathing the same air, touching someone's skin, touching someone's clothing, or kissing them -- does it matter if it is in the semen???
 
Tristan

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phloydius said:
Studying monkeypox virus concentrations in semen is much like doing a study on if the chairs should be rearranged on the Titanic while it is sinking! If you can transfer monkeypox by breathing the same air, touching someone's skin, touching someone's clothing, or kissing them -- does it matter if it is in the semen???
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Button counters and bean sorters proliferate.

ETA: in other words, they're concentrating on things that are essentially useless in the current situation.

Sorry for any confusion.

Also edited Phloydius' original post to clarify what I was responding to.
 
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mudlogger

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I've got Sweet Annie (artemesia annua) soaking in glycerine, and also in alcohol...neither is quite ready so the crock pots will be busy this weekend,

anyway

Doc has 2 patients whose husbands work together at a sawmill...the menfolks have been exposed to TB, so they're getting the Sweet Annie for the weekend, they the finished stuff on Tuesday. I wonder if it's from an illegal...there are some here, but they're not common.

The first reported case of mpox in my area was released yesterday on the local tv news. Looks like it's rock and roll time, crapola.
 
Meemur

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Jward: love your red, white, and blue heels!

OK, so BW and others good with numbers are looking at the data. One wildcard: we can't predict the exact day and time these increases will make it to the MSM news. Once that happens, the herd will hit the stores.

It won't matter whether or not the math for the increases is correct. A panicking herd will impact already stressed supply lines. So I've been trying to get folks ready in the real world, but I don't mention Monkey pox, just "concerns about inflation."

I'm trying very hard to keep my mouth shut about Monkey pox in the real world because I don't want folks remembering that I warned them about it and then think I'm a survivalist with thousands of dollars of survival equipment and food (hahah!). Unfortunately, there are too many folks violating Opsec (locally, in the real world) and that's just not a good idea these days.

The "they won't prepare but they will remember" adage is still true.
 
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psychgirl

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Meemur said:
Jward: love your red, white, and blue heels!

OK, so BW and others good with numbers are looking at the data. One wildcard: we can't predict the exact day and time these increases will make it to the MSM news. Once that happens, the herd will hit the stores.

It won't matter whether or not the math for the increases is correct. A panicking herd will impact already stressed supply lines. So I've been trying to get folks ready in the real world, but I don't mention Monkey pox, just "concerns about inflation."

I'm trying very hard to keep my mouth shut about Monkey pox in the real world because I don't want folks remembering that I warned them about it and then think I'm a survivalist with thousands of dollars of survival equipment and food (hahah!). Unfortunately, there are too many folks violating Opsec (locally, in the real world) and that's just not a good idea these days.

The "they won't prepare but they will remember" adage is still true.
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They won’t listen to you anyway.
Not yet
 
jward

jward

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I understand yer point, tempting to figure it's just doods being goofy and focusing on their own concerns, but there's actually a male, or "testes privilege" involved, where the immune system doesn't hit the testicles as hard, and thus its really a real thing. IIRC they were finding ebola outbreaks reigniting coz they'd not realized at first that seman was a route of transmission, and one that stayed viable sometimes far beyond the mans' recovery.
..coz we didn't have enough to worry bout, right? :: shrug ::

phloydius said:
Studying monkeypox virus concentrations in semen is much like doing a study on if the chairs should be rearranged on the Titanic while it is sinking! If you can transfer monkeypox by breathing the same air, touching someone's skin, touching someone's clothing, or kissing them -- does it matter if it is in the semen???
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jward said:
I understand yer point, tempting to figure it's just doods being goofy and focusing on their own concerns, but there's actually a male, or "testes privilege" involved, where the immune system doesn't hit the testicles as hard, and thus its really a real thing. IIRC they were finding ebola outbreaks reigniting coz they'd not realized at first that seman was a route of transmission, and one that stayed viable sometimes far beyond the mans' recovery.
..coz we didn't have enough to worry bout, right? :: shrug ::
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Guess, that will give the anti-male bunch more reasons to try and get rid of men.
 
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My family think I’m crazy. They say “yea, just like you thought we were going to war with Russia, that all ended fine”. I just shrug.
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My boyfriend keeps asking me if I was adopted because I’m the polar opposite of my family in so many things. I’ve gotten to the point where I no longer discuss my views with them because they think I’m a conspiracy theorist.
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Heliobas Disciple

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jward said:
Today, 10:33 AM
Translation Google

Monkey pox: the presence of the virus in sperm is “neither rare nor random”, according to Italian researchers
...
By Le Parisien with AFP
June 30, 2022 at 1:53 p.m.
...
The Italian team is now trying to determine how long the virus remains present in semen after the onset of symptoms. In one patient, DNA from the virus was detected three weeks after the onset of symptoms, even after the lesions disappeared, a phenomenon that Vaia said has been seen in the past in viral infections such as zika. This could indicate that the risk of transmission could be reduced by using condoms in the weeks following recovery.
...
During their first study, they had observed through the culture of the virus in the laboratory that it was “present in the semen as a contagious virus and able to reproduce”, according to Mr. Vaia.
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https://www.leparisien.fr/societe/sa...XMIXV33IHA.php

Related to:
https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/...italy-may-2022
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medicalxpress.com

Italian experts says semen can be vehicle for monkeypox infection

Researchers in Italy who were first to identify the presence of monkeypox in semen are broadening their testing, saying early results suggest sperm can be a vehicle for infection.
medicalxpress.com medicalxpress.com
(fair use applies)

Italian experts says semen can be vehicle for monkeypox infection
June 30, 2022

Researchers in Italy who were first to identify the presence of monkeypox in semen are broadening their testing, saying early results suggest sperm can be a vehicle for infection.

A team at Rome's Spallanzani Hospital, which specializes in infectious diseases, revealed in a study published on June 2 that the virus DNA was detected in semen of three out of four men diagnosed with monkeypox.

They have since expanded their work, according to director Francesco Vaia, who said researchers have found the presence of monkeypox in the sperm of 14 infected men out of 16 studied.

"This finding tells us that the presence of the virus in sperm is not a rare or random occurrence," Vaia told AFP in an interview.

He added: "The infection can be transmitted during sexual intercourse by direct contact with skin lesions, but our study shows that semen can also be a vehicle for infection."

Researchers at Spallanzani identified Italy's first cases of monkeypox, found in two men who had recently returned from the Canary Islands.

The latest results reported by Vaia have not yet been published or subject to peer review.

Since early May, a surge of monkeypox cases has been detected outside of the West and Central African countries where the disease has long been endemic. Most of the new cases have been in Western Europe.

More than 3,400 confirmed cases and one death have now been reported to the World Health Organization from more than 50 countries this year.

The vast majority of cases so far have been observed in men who have sex with men, of young age, chiefly in urban areas, in "clustered social and sexual networks", according to the WHO.

It is investigating cases of semen testing positive for monkeypox, but has maintained the virus is primarily spread through close contact.

Meg Doherty, director of the WHO's global HIV, hepatitis and sexually-transmitted infection programs, said last week: "We are not calling this a sexually-transmitted infection."

Antivirals?

Spallanzani researchers are now trying to ascertain how long the virus is present in sperm after the onset of symptoms.

In one patient, virus DNA was detected three weeks after symptoms first appeared, even after lesions had disappeared—a phenomenon Vaia said had been seen in the past in viral infections such as Zika.

That could indicate that the risk of transmission of monkeypox could be lowered by the use of condoms in the weeks after recovery, he said.

The Spallanzani team is also looking at vaginal secretions to study the presence of the virus.

A significant finding from the first study was that when the virus was cultured in the lab, it was "present in semen as a live, infectious virus, efficient in reproducing itself", Vaia told AFP.

Vaia cautioned that there remained many unanswered questions on monkeypox, including whether antiviral therapies could shorten the time in which people with the virus could infect others.

Another is whether the smallpox vaccine could protect people from the monkeypox virus.

"To study this we will analyze people who were vaccinated 40 years ago before human smallpox was declared to have disappeared," Vaia said.
 
psychgirl

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This has a lot of discussion regarding infected children. If you follow down a bit through the thread.
The covering up by government, as well as misdiagnosing the disease as chickenpox.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1543004398166614018
View: https://mobile.twitter.com/EnemyInAState/status/1543004398166614018

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1542969509371330567
View: https://mobile.twitter.com/burdish/status/1542969509371330567

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1543006279907540992
View: https://mobile.twitter.com/EnemyInAState/status/1543006279907540992
 
jward

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IA: 2022 Monkeypox
Today, 06:10 AM

Source: https://www.einnews.com/pr_news/5794...keypox-in-iowa

First Case of Monkeypox in Iowa
News Provided By Iowa Department Of Public Health
July 02, 2022, 05:09 GMT

The Iowa Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) reports today a probable case of monkeypox virus infection in an adult in North Central Iowa. Testing was conducted by the State Hygienic Lab in Coralville.

The patient was likely infected during international travels and is isolating, receiving outpatient care and in regular communication with health department staff. HHS staff and local public health are conducting contact tracing with local health partners to identify anyone who may be at risk due to direct close contact with the patient while infectious. People with direct close contact are directed to watch for symptoms of illness and are offered a vaccine series that can prevent symptoms from developing or developing severe illness. The CDC does not recommend broader use of the vaccine at this time; however, their evaluation of vaccine guidance is ongoing...
 
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