GOV/MIL Minsk: something happening there
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Belarus’ long-range missile systems spotted near Lithuanian border
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By Dylan Malyasov
Aug 17, 2020
Modified date: 4 seconds ago
The Belarus’ Army has begun deploying heavy artillery systems, main battle tanks, infantry fighting vehicles and other equipment to the Lida region, close to the Lithuanian border.
Moreover, several residents have released on social media images showed the latest Belarusian multiple launch rocket systems in the Lida region.
The Polonez is a long-range missile system designed to destroy openly located and concealed manpower, unarmored and armored military equipment, artillery, rocket and anti-aircraft missile systems, aviation equipment at home-based airfields and other objects at a range from 50 km to 200 km with high accuracy.
The MLRS carries two sets of quadruple launchers housing 300mm solid propellant rockets in ready-to-launch positions.
Also, several Tochka-U tactical ballistic missile systems alongside other military equipment were reportedly spotted on a highway in the Minsk region.
It also said that the Belarus’ army will train to strengthen the country’s western border as part of the drills.
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NewsArmy
By Dylan Malyasov
Aug 17, 2020
Modified date: 4 seconds ago
The Belarus’ Army has begun deploying heavy artillery systems, main battle tanks, infantry fighting vehicles and other equipment to the Lida region, close to the Lithuanian border.
Moreover, several residents have released on social media images showed the latest Belarusian multiple launch rocket systems in the Lida region.
The Polonez is a long-range missile system designed to destroy openly located and concealed manpower, unarmored and armored military equipment, artillery, rocket and anti-aircraft missile systems, aviation equipment at home-based airfields and other objects at a range from 50 km to 200 km with high accuracy.
The MLRS carries two sets of quadruple launchers housing 300mm solid propellant rockets in ready-to-launch positions.
Also, several Tochka-U tactical ballistic missile systems alongside other military equipment were reportedly spotted on a highway in the Minsk region.
Belarus’ army plans to hold drills over Aug. 17-20 near the country’s nuclear plant and in the Grodno region bordering Poland and Lithuania, the RIA news agency reported on Sunday, citing the defence ministry.
It also said that the Belarus’ army will train to strengthen the country’s western border as part of the drills.
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Belarus' long-range missile systems spotted near Lithuanian border
The Belarus' Army has begun deploying heavy artillery systems, main battle tanks, infantry fighting vehicles and other equipment to the Lida region, close to the Lithuanian border. Moreover, seve
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I think your reading to much American conspiracy into this one.
Belarus is too close geographically and economic and historic ties to break directly with to the west like other Eastern European satellites.
The people of Belarus have been experiencing the west as many young people leave for jobs and a possible better life. There is enough people who voted independently that they know the size of the victory is fraud.
If he would have won a tighter race maybe the reaction would have been more disapointment not protest. But he is from the ‘old’ Soviet Union where ‘elections’ were always 90% plus for the party however you got there.
I think the size of the protest could only happen internally, look how pitiful Antifa and BLM protests are in comparison. Reminds me more of Hong Kong.
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You could be right in some respects, Squid. However, I am convinced (watched) our elitist deep state has for years been egging the Russians on, and Putin has resolved (has said as much) that eventually there will be a war with the US. John Bolton would be a good example of the neocons I'm referring to.
Granted Neocons seem obsessed with pointless wars with questionable US interests but this is not Bush administration and the deep state is more concerned with getting rid of bad orange man they have ignored the world.
This internal belly gazing obsession from the many Progressive party weasels in the State Dept, Intelligence and top of the Pentagon prevents any external thought at all. Did anyone block Trumps masterful UAE-Israel deal?
Imho what we are seeing in Belarus is internally driven. If there is outside intervention it would more likely be from GS or possibly China than the administration. Trump is already in a battle with China and getting somewhat closer to Russia is a Trump card No pun intended China is deathly afraid may happen. Picking a fight with Russia at this times doesn’t serve US interests or specifically Trumps interests.
It does serve Soro’s desire to spread chaos, destabilize Europe, the US and China all at the same time. Having Russia move aggressively to bring Belarus back into the fold will increase tension with Europe and new Eastern European US allies and serve as a wedge between the US and Russia.
I am more inclined to believe this is possibly Soro’s working with Chinese money and backing. I can see this like Antifa/BLM thuggery being controlled and directed by powerful interests and I keep asking who benefits? And the answer seems to point to Xi working through Soro’s as a cut-out.
Of course if Soro’s is involved with Belarus and stepping on Putin’s toes this could prove to be tangling with a very dangerous ruthless adversary with higher stakes than attacking the US with one party on board with the internal destabilization efforts.
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The thing I noticed about Belarus is that at the beginning of summer the news reports were castigating Lukashenko for following the Swedish model for handling COVID-19, but they really can't go after Sweden too much because they have taken in so many "refugees " that they are destroying themselves already. But Lukashenko has been pretty erratic in his dealings with Putin too. It isn't so easy to determine what Putin will do because shoring up Lukashenko might not be worth it. An alternate candidate might be his answer. This article expresses my doubts about the whole situation.
By the way, I am always suspicious of Soros complaining about China when the goals of both he and China so closely align. He's just miffed because they don't let him manipulate their markets.
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Belarus In The Firing Line For A Color Revolution
by Tyler Durden
Tue, 08/18/2020 - 02:00
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Authored by Kit Knightly via Off-Guardian.org,
With his refusal to toe the coronavirus line Alexandr Lukashenko has outlived his usefulness, and is being shuffled of the grand chessboard...
Belarus had their presidential election last Sunday, and the incumbent Alexandr Lukashenko apparently won. This was evidently not supposed to happen, or in some other way counter to the Western world’s grand plan – because now we have a little colour revolution happening.
You can always tell an Eastern European colour revolution, because Shaun Walker emerges from his burrow, dragging with him 3000 words of total speculation, unsourced anecdotal evidence and some partisan quotes from Western-backed NGOs. You know, like this.
Another good indication is just how irate Simon Tisdall is, and judging by this column…he’s pretty irate. Granted it’s mostly about Erdogan and Turkey, but he has words for Lukashenko too, and they are not friendly. I wouldn’t be surprised if he broke the keys on his laptop, so furious is his typing.
If you can’t be bothered to read it, I don’t blame you. To sum up: NATO needs to “do something”, or “take action” or “intervene”. He doesn’t use the word “coup”, because our side don’t do those, but he definitely means coup.
The Economist is talking about the “right way to get rid of Lukashenko”, while Chatham House is insisting it’s time to “play hardball” in Belarus.
Europe’s foreign minister, Josep Borrell, has gotten involved too, issuing a statement that Belarus’ elections were “neither free nor fair”, and that “the people of Belarus deserve better”.
I have no idea if the vote was rigged or not. But I do know that none of the people claiming it was have provided any evidence to back that up, and I’m always suspicious when a fact is asserted without proof. Because you know if they had they would use it.
It’s also perfectly true that Europe – and the Western world in general – don’t care in the slightest about elections being fair. Witness the total lack of rebuke for the corrupt mess that was the 2014 Ukrainian election.
As for the police violence against protesters, Lukashenko and Belarus have received more harsh words in the Western press in the last two days, than Macron did during the 18 months of Gilets Jaunes protests, or the Spanish government ever did for their fascist destruction of the Catalan independence movement.
History is very clear in this precedent: Corruption and/or violence would be no obstacle whatsoever to doing business with the West, were Lukashenko willing to be biddable and serve a NATO-backed Deep State agenda. Lukashenko’s coronavirus policy shows he is not, and so twenty-six years of being gently tolerated are over and it’s time for him to go.
All the hallmarks of a narrative roll-out are there.
The sudden widespread and uniform use of terminology (In this case “Europe’s last dictator”), protest placards helpfully being written in English, and the social media-spread accounts of “heroes” overcoming adversity (eg. the woman who can’t live steam the protests so weaves them into a quilt instead. Yes, seriously.)
Making the marches in Minsk all women holding flowers and wearing white is a nice touch, a new spin. The question is what they’re going to call it. They absolutely can’t call it the “White Revolution”, for fairly obvious reasons.
Maybe the Flower Revolution? The Petal Revolution?
Their options are limited, but whatever they end up with can’t be any worse than “the snow revolution”.
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Kaliningrad was part of East Prussia, but the advancing Soviet armies in WWII pushed all the Germans out of this territory.
The southern half was annexed by Poland. Many civilians were murdered.
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Exactly and is where my mother is from.
When in Germany, a little town outside of Deusseldorf, (which is where her family settled when pushed out) there was a club I was in, to be in it, your mother had to have come from East Prussia. Quite a large club. We all wore a patch on our left sleeve jacket. Shield shaped, with a black outline, on a white background and a single black stag antler.
It was specific to mothers, probably because most of the fathers were killed in the war.
Mom was from about 60 miles east of Königsberg, East Prussia. You won't find that on a map. It's Kaliningrad now.
How about we call it “The Hot Blue Eyed Blonde Revolution!“The thing I noticed about Belarus is that at the beginning of summer the news reports were castigating Lukashenko for following the Swedish model for handling COVID-19, but they really can't go after Sweden too much because they have taken in so many "refugees " that they are destroying themselves already. But Lukashenko has been pretty erratic in his dealings with Putin too. It isn't so easy to determine what Putin will do because shoring up Lukashenko might not be worth it. An alternate candidate might be his answer. This article expresses my doubts about the whole situation.
By the way, I am always suspicious of Soros complaining about China when the goals of both he and China so closely align. He's just miffed because they don't let him manipulate their markets.
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Belarus In The Firing Line For A Color Revolution
by Tyler Durden
Tue, 08/18/2020 - 02:00
TwitterFacebookRedditEmailPrint
Authored by Kit Knightly via Off-Guardian.org,
With his refusal to toe the coronavirus line Alexandr Lukashenko has outlived his usefulness, and is being shuffled of the grand chessboard...
Belarus had their presidential election last Sunday, and the incumbent Alexandr Lukashenko apparently won. This was evidently not supposed to happen, or in some other way counter to the Western world’s grand plan – because now we have a little colour revolution happening.
You can always tell an Eastern European colour revolution, because Shaun Walker emerges from his burrow, dragging with him 3000 words of total speculation, unsourced anecdotal evidence and some partisan quotes from Western-backed NGOs. You know, like this.
Another good indication is just how irate Simon Tisdall is, and judging by this column…he’s pretty irate. Granted it’s mostly about Erdogan and Turkey, but he has words for Lukashenko too, and they are not friendly. I wouldn’t be surprised if he broke the keys on his laptop, so furious is his typing.
If you can’t be bothered to read it, I don’t blame you. To sum up: NATO needs to “do something”, or “take action” or “intervene”. He doesn’t use the word “coup”, because our side don’t do those, but he definitely means coup.
The Economist is talking about the “right way to get rid of Lukashenko”, while Chatham House is insisting it’s time to “play hardball” in Belarus.
Europe’s foreign minister, Josep Borrell, has gotten involved too, issuing a statement that Belarus’ elections were “neither free nor fair”, and that “the people of Belarus deserve better”.
I have no idea if the vote was rigged or not. But I do know that none of the people claiming it was have provided any evidence to back that up, and I’m always suspicious when a fact is asserted without proof. Because you know if they had they would use it.
It’s also perfectly true that Europe – and the Western world in general – don’t care in the slightest about elections being fair. Witness the total lack of rebuke for the corrupt mess that was the 2014 Ukrainian election.
As for the police violence against protesters, Lukashenko and Belarus have received more harsh words in the Western press in the last two days, than Macron did during the 18 months of Gilets Jaunes protests, or the Spanish government ever did for their fascist destruction of the Catalan independence movement.
History is very clear in this precedent: Corruption and/or violence would be no obstacle whatsoever to doing business with the West, were Lukashenko willing to be biddable and serve a NATO-backed Deep State agenda. Lukashenko’s coronavirus policy shows he is not, and so twenty-six years of being gently tolerated are over and it’s time for him to go.
All the hallmarks of a narrative roll-out are there.
The sudden widespread and uniform use of terminology (In this case “Europe’s last dictator”), protest placards helpfully being written in English, and the social media-spread accounts of “heroes” overcoming adversity (eg. the woman who can’t live steam the protests so weaves them into a quilt instead. Yes, seriously.)
Making the marches in Minsk all women holding flowers and wearing white is a nice touch, a new spin. The question is what they’re going to call it. They absolutely can’t call it the “White Revolution”, for fairly obvious reasons.
Maybe the Flower Revolution? The Petal Revolution?
Their options are limited, but whatever they end up with can’t be any worse than “the snow revolution”.
Not sure I buy all the information from Zero Hedge some articles seem more like some information but then filled with rants or personal opinion.
