susie0884
Dooming since 1998
My VERY liberal step-son has garnered every piece of info he could on this case, and he says it's obvious that it was self-defense. And that was long before this trial.
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CRIME Main Rittenhouse trial thread - NOT GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS
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My VERY liberal step-son has garnered every piece of info he could on this case, and he says it's obvious that it was self-defense. And that was long before this trial.
BornFree
Came This Far
The prosecutor has shown everyone just how corrupt and lawless a person in his position can be. The only way to eliminate these people is to make an example out of them and have their license to practice law revoked. In a just world you simply don't let these types of people continue to practice law and use their lawless tactics on others.
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subnet
Boot
Well, the Marxist trash does like to hire the incompetent.....
susie0884
Dooming since 1998
Yeah, I wondered about that decision, too, until I saw Kyle on the stand. Definitely a "child." Now I'm thinking his attorney was brilliant.
susie0884
Dooming since 1998
You may be right. Time for the judge to retire and move to N. Idaho. Fuhrman is there. He and his friends could probably protect him. :-)
Capt. Eddie
Veteran Member
The only problem with that is the FACTS don't support there even being a case.
susie0884
Dooming since 1998
And the craziest thing is that Kyle tried--directly after the shooting--to go to the Kenosha cops to turn himself in (and nearly got killed in the process) and the cops between him and the police station wouldn't let him. So he had to go--with his mother--to another police department in Illinois. And he said he was sitting there throwing up in the police station waiting for them to talk to him. I don't doubt it given his reaction today.
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Sicario
The Executor
Yeah. Kenosha cops pepper sprayed him as he approached their squad car with his arms raised to tell them what had happened.
wvstuck
Only worry about what you can control!
He needs a not guilty verdict so he can never be tried again on the murder charges.
Answer: So you don't think I should have car insurance? (that would have been my answer)Asshole just asked Kyle a question about carrying his gun for protection that sounded something like this:
Prosecutor: Why did you buy car insurance? What specifically did you think would happen that would necessitate having insurance? Were you planning an accident?
Sicario
The Executor
Yeah, he basically asked Kyle why he kept his gun with him the whole evening if he wasn't planning on shooting someone. Gawd that commie prosecutor is a moron.
Buick Electra
TB2K Girls with Guns
So the prosecution wants to use a tablet to zoom in on some video using the APPLE "pinch and zoom." The defense objected saying that the Apple "Pinch and zoom" is an AI and can add properties, or things to the video which did not exist in the true video.
So arguments go back and forth and the prosecution guy, who is REALLY a piece of work, states something to the effect of, "Your honor, everyone has a smart phone," (I don't), "everyone is familiar with Apple's "pinch and zoom" (I'm not), and this is just a way of life that's been going on for the last 10 years and everyone needs to accept this."
What a condescending piece of camel dung this guy is!
Judge rules the prosecutor can't show the video until the prosecutor brings in an "expert" to convince the judge that the "pinch and zoom" feature won't allow anyone (AI included) to change the scene on the video.
So arguments go back and forth and the prosecution guy, who is REALLY a piece of work, states something to the effect of, "Your honor, everyone has a smart phone," (I don't), "everyone is familiar with Apple's "pinch and zoom" (I'm not), and this is just a way of life that's been going on for the last 10 years and everyone needs to accept this."
What a condescending piece of camel dung this guy is!
Judge rules the prosecutor can't show the video until the prosecutor brings in an "expert" to convince the judge that the "pinch and zoom" feature won't allow anyone (AI included) to change the scene on the video.
night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Technology competency is NOT equally distributed among the populace.
thompson
Certa Bonum Certamen
Neither do I.
thompson
Certa Bonum Certamen
Yes.
And even though I was a very early adopter (remember the big ol' bag phones?), I only have (and only need) a flip phone. No real interest or need to upgrade.
Heck, up until last year or the year before, Warren Buffett only used a flip phone. It's a choice.
night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
They screwed up their case SO badly they are working on a mistrial. Problem is, with THIS judge they ain't gonna get another bite at the apple because THIS judge will only give them a WITH PREJUDICE mistrial. No second bites.
Buick Electra
TB2K Girls with Guns
I didn't know the prosecution could testify for a dead man.
Buick Electra
TB2K Girls with Guns
Dobbin
Faithful Steed
Technology NEED is not equally distributed either.
A synthetic voice (aka "Stephen Hawking Interface") might be fun for a while but then I would quickly revert to what is "natural" - my good looks and affable disposition.
Some humans just can't resist...
Dobbin
The Snack Artist
Membership Revoked
I take offense at this! s/
The Snack Artist
Membership Revoked
Yeah, well I'm so virtuous I don't expel co2 when I breathe! s/Same here!!
Hfcomms
EN66iq
Doesn't nothing to change my impression of lawyers in general. This guy cares nothing about getting to the truth of whether or not the kid is guilty of a crime but just wants to put up a 'win' in a high profile case and he doesn't care how he goes about doing it. Many if not most judges allow the prosecutors to manipulate the jury to get a conviction but this judge is a straight shooter.....and I bet he carries too.
I mean yeah, why would you carrying a firearm during a riot with shooting, burning and looting going on. Can't figure that one out can you?
Buick Electra
TB2K Girls with Guns
EMICT
Veteran Member
When you have to go frame by frame in video to try to prove your point, then you are grasping at straws. When the left hand is moving towards you and the right hand grasps a hand gun... one is supposed to assume that the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing... all of which took place in fractions of a second.
I'm sure the jury can see through this charade, if common sense has any meaning.
I'm sure the jury can see through this charade, if common sense has any meaning.
bw
Fringe Ranger
That's so cute. It's like you were from the twentieth century.
Buick Electra
TB2K Girls with Guns
They're dismissing the jury for the day.
West
Senior
It just seems to me..
If they have mostly pantie waist anti gun pussies on the jury....
The kids doing time. Sadly, the pantie waist POSs think those evil guns make normal people's into monsters, and all that power must of just went to the kids head or so.e such nonsense.
IDK, but I'm praying the kid gets off, and finds excellent life here on out. I like him!
If they have mostly pantie waist anti gun pussies on the jury....
The kids doing time. Sadly, the pantie waist POSs think those evil guns make normal people's into monsters, and all that power must of just went to the kids head or so.e such nonsense.
IDK, but I'm praying the kid gets off, and finds excellent life here on out. I like him!
EMICT
Veteran Member
Rosenbaum will do no more harm
Guaranteed
thompson
Certa Bonum Certamen
Defense Moves for Mistrial in Kyle Rittenhouse Case; Judge to Prosecutor: 'I Don't Believe You!'
The defense in the murder trial of Kyle Rittenhouse moved for a mistrial based on the prosecution's violations of the defendant's rights.
www.breitbart.com
Defense Moves for Mistrial in Kyle Rittenhouse Case; Judge to Prosecutor: ‘I Don’t Believe You!’
Joel B. Pollak
10 Nov 2021
The defense in the murder trial of Kyle Rittenhouse in Kenosha, Wisconsin, moved Wednesday afternoon for a mistrial based on the prosecution’s violations of the defendant’s rights and the judge’s previous rulings about admissible evidence.
Defense attorney Corey Chirafisi asked Judge Bruce Schroeder to declare a mistrial “with prejudice,” which would prevent prosecutors from bringing the charges again. That provision, Chirafisi claimed, was necessary to prevent prosecutors from deliberately ruining their own case to get “another kick at the cat.” He said that prosecutors, led by Assistant District Attorney Thomas Binger, had acted in “bad faith” — a key element of dismissal with prejudice.
The motion came after a lunch break, and after Judge Schroeder had admonished the prosecution that it had committed a “grave constitutional violation” by referring to Rittenhouse’s previous silence, which conflicts with his Fifth Amendment right to remain silent.
Earlier, the following exchange took place:
There was another interruption later, when the judge admonished the prosecution for discussing excluded evidence.
In his defense, Binger said that Rittenhouse, who took the stand in his own defense, commented on some of the excluded material.
Judge Schroeder berated Binger again, saying that he had been trying to find a way around his previous rulings. “When you say that you had been acting on good faith, I don’t believe that,” he said.
The judge reserved judgment on the motion.
Later, when the prosecution argued for the admission of a photograph into evidence showing Rittenhouse wearing a shirt with an expletive on it, the judge noted that Rittenhouse is not on trial for “exquisitely bad judgment” or “behaving in a very offensive way,” but for murder.
thompson
Certa Bonum Certamen
Rittenhouse Defense Torches the Prosecution, Moving for Mistrial With Prejudice
Bring the popcorn, the defense has had enough with the prosecution...
redstate.com
Rittenhouse Defense Torches the Prosecution, Moving for Mistrial With Prejudice
By Nick Arama | Nov 10, 2021 4:30 PM ET
It’s hard to express how badly the prosecution has been doing in the Rittenhouse case.
They were in trouble from the start, with the prosecutor claiming, falsely, that right before the shooting, Kyle Rittenhouse was chasing Joseph Rosenbaum — the first person shot — when in truth, it was the other way around.
Then the prosecution seemed to ask questions of its own witnesses that just blew up the prosecution’s position and indeed supported the defense’s argument of self-defense.
But there was another issue that hasn’t gotten the attention that it deserves — that’s the testimony of witness Nathan DeBruin. DeBruin appeared to be saying that the prosecutor was trying to get him to change his statement.
View: https://twitter.com/KyleHooten2/status/1458235668988039170?s=20
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That’s definitely problematic if that’s what was going on there.
Then today, when Kyle Rittenhouse testified, the prosecution on cross improperly referred to Rittenhouse not previously giving his story. That’s remaining silent, which is his constitutional right to do. It’s improper to comment on it or imply anything negative from it. Judge Bruce Schroeder ripped into prosecutor Thomas Binger, “The problem is this is a grave constitutional violation for you to talk about the Defendant’s silence. You are right on the borderline, you may be over. It better stop.”
View: https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1458481872967712788?s=20
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But the judge didn’t stop there. He continued saying this was something the prosecutor who was experienced should know, given what settled law it is.
View: https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1458487998769676293?s=20
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“I was astonished when you began his examination by commenting on the defendant’s post-arrest silence,” Judge Schroeder declared. “That’s basic law. It’s been basic law in this country for 40 years, 50 years.” He also made the point that even if he, the prosecutor, thought he had a point, he should have asked the court out of the hearing of the jury to get a determination on the issue.
It appears that the defense has finally had enough with the actions of the prosecution at this point.
While they mentioned the possibility of moving for a mistrial earlier today after the prosecution improperly impugned Rittenhouse’s right to remain silent, now the defense is saying they will in fact make that motion to the judge. They announced they would be asking for a mistrial with prejudice, meaning the case would be done as to the allegations and the prosecution would be foreclosed from refiling it.
View: https://twitter.com/KyleHooten2/status/1458512934863347717?s=20
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The defense said that while it isn’t normally granted with prejudice it can be in the case of prosecutorial misconduct “designed to avoid an acquittal” and then they laid out how just today, the prosecution improperly stepped on Rittenhouse’s right to remain silent, twice, the issue the judge had previously called a “grave constitutional question.”
View: https://twitter.com/KyleHooten2/status/1458514207108997120?s=20
26 seconds for the first video
1:21 for the second video
