HEALTH MAIN EBOLA DISCUSSION THREAD -09/01/14 - 09/15/14

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fi103r

Veteran Member
Whole Liberian med support system is crashing
Did not see this posted

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...e71468-3b61-11e4-9c9f-ebb47272e40e_story.html

snippage from article
go read it mind boggling "not sick enough to treat?"

By Lenny Bernstein September 13 at 5:22 PM
MONROVIA, Liberia — Steps from a chance at salvation, or at least a less excruciating death, Comfort Zeyemoh walked slowly from the Ebola treatment center on Saturday. It was one of only three in a city devastated by the lethal virus. And it was nearly full.

Zeyemoh, 22, was not sick enough to gain entry, though she had started vomiting the night before and was feeling weak. Those are telltale signs of Ebola.
 

SusieSunshine

Veteran Member
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/lakeland-industries-announces-global-availability-142200024.html

Lakeland Industries Announces Global Availability of Hazmat Suits for Ebola

Manufacturing Capacity Expanded on Product Lines Using Unique Sealed Seam Technology for Added Protection

RONKONKOMA, N.Y., Sept. 12, 2014 /PRNewswire/ -- Lakeland Industries, Inc. (LAKE), a leading global manufacturer of industrial protective clothing for industry, municipalities, healthcare and to first responders on the federal, state and local levels, today announced the global availability of its protective apparel for use in handling the Ebola virus. In response to the increasing demand for specialty protective suits to be worm by healthcare workers and others being exposed to Ebola, Lakeland is increasing its manufacturing capacity for these garments and includes proprietary processes for specialized seam sealing, a far superior technology for protecting against viral hazards than non-sealed products.

"Lakeland stands ready to join the fight against the spread of Ebola," said Christopher J. Ryan, President and Chief Executive Officer of Lakeland Industries. "We understand the difficulty of getting appropriate products through a procurement system that in times of crisis favors availability over specification, and we hope our added capacity will help alleviate that problem. With the U.S. State Department alone putting out a bid for 160,000 suits, we encourage all protective apparel companies to increase their manufacturing capacity for sealed seam garments so that our industry can do its part in addressing this threat to global health.

Mr. Ryan continued, "With our diverse global operations and the breadth of our protective apparel line incorporating superior sealed seam technology, we are ideally situated to assist organizations worldwide as they handle Ebola. Despite reports citing the short supply of protective suits for handling hazardous materials, we believe it is very important to alert those in need around the world that Lakeland has appropriately qualified and certified suits, ample manufacturing capacity, and numerous distribution points to supply these garments."

Last Friday, U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon laid out plans to set up an Ebola crisis center, with a mission to halt the spread of the virus in West African countries in six to nine months. He is counting on public and private funding from around the world of some $600 million needed for supplies in West Africa. Nearly 2,300 people have died and 4,300 confirmed or probable cases of Ebola have been reported since March. Mr. Ban said in a statement, "The number of cases is rising exponentially. The disease is spreading far faster than the response. People are increasingly frustrated that it is not being controlled."

Within the past several weeks, Lakeland has provided suits that are being used by Doctors Without Borders in West Africa. Lakeland's global team worked with leaders from Doctors Without Borders to ensure that the technical data and performance specifications for Lakeland's garments exceeded the necessary protective requirements.


Two days ago, an NBC affiliate reported that PCI Global, a non-profit group with offices in Washington, DC, sent a quantity of hazmat suits to Liberia for use in the treatment of patients with Ebola. "These suits are essential to saving lives," said PCI Vice President Richard Parker in the report. "There's a very short supply around the world. We were able to procure these 276 suits through a medical supply company in California, so we bought them up as soon as we could." The suits that were procured and shipped were sealed seam garments manufactured by Lakeland Industries.

Lakeland's ChemMAX 1 garments are being used in the fight against the Ebola virus based on their certification to EN 14126, the European standard for protective clothing for use against infective agents, and ASTM F1671 certification for protection from blood-borne pathogens along with its availability in sealed seam configurations. Lakeland has the same certifications for other protective garments, including MicroMAX NS and the remaining ChemMAX product line.

For additional product information or to place an order, please visit www.lakeland.com or contact customer service:
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
Whole Liberian med support system is crashing
Did not see this posted

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...e71468-3b61-11e4-9c9f-ebb47272e40e_story.html

snippage from article
go read it mind boggling "not sick enough to treat?"

By Lenny Bernstein September 13 at 5:22 PM
MONROVIA, Liberia — Steps from a chance at salvation, or at least a less excruciating death, Comfort Zeyemoh walked slowly from the Ebola treatment center on Saturday. It was one of only three in a city devastated by the lethal virus. And it was nearly full.

Zeyemoh, 22, was not sick enough to gain entry, though she had started vomiting the night before and was feeling weak. Those are telltale signs of Ebola.

The "snippet" I took from that article was in the ORIGINAL TITLE to the article and in the body of the article,
which was: "Ebola victims must FEND FOR THEMSELVES"!
With each day, the small group of caregivers trying to cope with the worst outbreak of Ebola on record falls further and further behind as the pace of the virus’s transmission rapidly accelerates. Health facilities are full, and an increasing number of infected people are being turned away, left to fend for themselves.
[my edit insert] Seven in ten die WITH treatment, nine in ten die without treatment AND THE ONLY TREATMENT THEY GET, in the hospitals and clinics IF THEY ARE LUCKY, IS BASIC CARE, WATER, or if they are lucky: (oral electrolyte rehydration solution, which you can make at home from salt, sugar and water) limited pain (tylenol)meds, and a very little food as they are able and want to eat(plain rice/bread) and cleaning up the vomit and excrement they create.

YOU CAN DO THAT FOR YOUR FAMILY, IF MEDICAL SERVICES COLLAPSE, IF you prepare ahead, AND YOU ALSO have colloidal silver(to administer orally to kill Ebola virus, and also used to disinfect people, surfaces etc) Turmeric 95% CURCUMIN (to stop an immune over-reaction called a cytokine storm which can kill even without Ebola) in addition to homemade oral rehydration solution(to stop them dying of dehydration from vomiting and diarrhea) then you have a MUCH MUCH better than 60% chance of saving your loved one's life from Ebola!! IT would be MUCH HIGHER LEVEL CARE THAN THEY WOULD GET IN A HOSPITAL WHEN medical services are near collapse from too many EBola patients!
IF it is your family, you might as well, YOU ARE ALREADY EXPOSED!

NOBODY loves you and your family as much as YOU LOVE EACH OTHER! THAT is why you MUST be ready, prepared to help each other!
To others, you are just sick strangers that threaten their lives with YOUR "problem". BEWARE, SOME STRANGERS WOULD even rather see you dead so your "threat" to them could be "buried and contained".

I am warning you.... It really doesn't take much to utterly collapse a FIRST WORLD MEDICAL CARE SYSTEM! Be ready to "Self care" for your ALL your medical needs, not just ebola, for as much as your circle of knowledge and friends with skills can deal with, WHEN, not if, NO medical care AT ALL, FOR ANYTHING, is available for six months to a year or more. Your failure to do that leaves you with no choice but to accept your, or your loved one's DEATH for even simple, stupid, easily prevented, medical needs!!.

TIP: Right now, while you are thinking about it GET EVERY FAMILY MEMBER A TETANUS BOOSTER SHOT, so if no medical care is available, and someone gets a deep wound, you wont have to be as worried about THAT. THE prevalence of whooping cough is enough to "justify" the shot which is called a DPT SHOT, (diptheria, pertussis, and tetanus) all potentially deadly and easily preventable illnesses. If you are older, Make sure you have a recent "PNEUMONIA" booster shot.

One can excuse/forgive dirt poor, illiterate, already almost starving, Africans living without running water, electricity, or ANY "extra" money for NOT "prepping" and being able to care for themselves and loved ones, BUT THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR AMERICANS who refused to heed the warning and get the simple things necessary to survive!!
 
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Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
It has been truly fascinating to watch the ongoing social and medical collapse in Liberia the last few weeks. We are now seeing a situation where a medical crisis has now morphed into a full blown social collapse. We haven't seen that since the Black Death in 1348. The 1918 Flu epidemic never resulted in the kind of social anarchy we are witnessing on a daily basis in West Africa.

I will say it again, it is now not just Ebola that is killing people. It is the combination of social collapse, violence, and food shortages that are starting to do two things. First is that people are dying in greater numbers, not just from Ebola but other medical issues, than they would have if Ebola hadn't collapsed the health care system. Second is that people are starting to die from the social collapse itself. They are being killed in the riots. They are soon going to start dying from starvation.

WHO and the CDC don't seem to get it that when you are dealing with a lethal disease, combined with both a health care system collapse, and a social collapse, the numbers of dead are far beyond those dying from "only" Ebola.

I will say it again: one year from now the numbers of dead people, from disease, from violence and from starvation is going to be much, much higher than it "should be" from "only" an Ebola epidemic.
 

Kris Gandillon

The Other Curmudgeon
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It has been truly fascinating to watch the ongoing social and medical collapse in Liberia the last few weeks. We are now seeing a situation where a medical crisis has now morphed into a full blown social collapse. We haven't seen that since the Black Death in 1348. The 1918 Flu epidemic never resulted in the kind of social anarchy we are witnessing on a daily basis in West Africa.

I will say it again, it is now not just Ebola that is killing people. It is the combination of social collapse, violence, and food shortages that are starting to do two things. First is that people are dying in greater numbers, not just from Ebola but other medical issues, than they would have if Ebola hadn't collapsed the health care system. Second is that people are starting to die from the social collapse itself. They are being killed in the riots. They are soon going to start dying from starvation.

WHO and the CDC don't seem to get it that when you are dealing with a lethal disease, combined with both a health care system collapse, and a social collapse, the numbers of dead are far beyond those dying from "only" Ebola.

I will say it again: one year from now the numbers of dead people, from disease, from violence and from starvation is going to be much, much higher than it "should be" from "only" an Ebola epidemic.

Doomer Doug's wingman totally agrees!
 
It has been truly fascinating to watch the ongoing social and medical collapse in Liberia the last few weeks. We are now seeing a situation where a medical crisis has now morphed into a full blown social collapse. We haven't seen that since the Black Death in 1348. The 1918 Flu epidemic never resulted in the kind of social anarchy we are witnessing on a daily basis in West Africa.

I will say it again, it is now not just Ebola that is killing people. It is the combination of social collapse, violence, and food shortages that are starting to do two things. First is that people are dying in greater numbers, not just from Ebola but other medical issues, than they would have if Ebola hadn't collapsed the health care system. Second is that people are starting to die from the social collapse itself. They are being killed in the riots. They are soon going to start dying from starvation.

WHO and the CDC don't seem to get it that when you are dealing with a lethal disease, combined with both a health care system collapse, and a social collapse, the numbers of dead are far beyond those dying from "only" Ebola.

I will say it again: one year from now the numbers of dead people, from disease, from violence and from starvation is going to be much, much higher than it "should be" from "only" an Ebola epidemic.
Fukushima is killing much slower and quieter.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
Let's see here. "The other curmudgeon" joins the raving lunatic Doomer Doug, along with PI, Mzkitty and assorted more normal timebomb2000.com types.

We are so DOOMED!!!! LOL

I am still wondering at what exact point the Sheeple start to smell the wolves and stampede. Life goes on in the USA while West Africa goes middle ages and descends into Bladerunner level anarchy.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
Fukushima

Fukushima is a slow moving cancer, amigo. Ebola is a shotgun blast along with a several hour bleedout.

One year from now West Africa will be a graveyard. One year from now Fukushima will be in the 4th year of a 30 year first phase.
 
Fukushima is a slow moving cancer, amigo. Ebola is a shotgun blast along with a several hour bleedout.

One year from now West Africa will be a graveyard. One year from now Fukushima will be in the 4th year of a 30 year first phase.

yup

and Bladerunner is a society that actually functions and has rules.

I think The Postman is more what is coming.
 

Kris Gandillon

The Other Curmudgeon
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Doug:

What do you see slowing down Ebola and its related non-Ebola deaths? You keep talking "a year from now". A year from now the whole WORLD is toast if SOMETHING doesn't slow this freight train down. WHAT, WHEN and WHY do you see that slow down occurring?

More fun with numbers....simply to show that "it doesn't make that much difference"...i.e. the "collateral, non-Ebola deaths" which you described above.

I took our 4X the "reported numbers column" of historic and projected Ebola DEATHS and DOUBLED it to say that for every Ebola death there is also a non-Ebola death due to riots, starvation, you name it.

We reach the magic 7 Billion DEATHS number (ELE) only TWO months sooner...in September 2015....instead of November 2015.

The LAST 3 to 6 months of an EXPONENTIAL EVENT like this is when things get really hairy and totally out of control and the hockey stick on the graph goes vertical.
 

fi103r

Veteran Member
The "snippet" I took from that article was in the ORIGINAL TITLE to the article and in the body of the article,

One can excuse/forgive dirt poor, illiterate, already almost starving, Africans living without running water, electricity, or ANY "extra" money for NOT "prepping" and being able to care for themselves and loved ones, BUT THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR AMERICANS who refused to heed the warning and get the simple things necessary to survive!!
Sorry, I try to avoid duplicate entries as this thread is huge.

BTW you make several excellent recommendations there.

My brain keeps wandering back to the fact here in the US there are what 25 isolations beds that might handle ebola/nobola/newbola what happens when case 26 shows up?

thx,

r
 

Kris Gandillon

The Other Curmudgeon
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Recognizing that we are now in UNCHARTED WATERS in regards to an Ebola Outbreak like this, this one already being over TWICE AS BAD and TWICE AS LONG as ALL OTHER EBOLA OUTBREAKS COMBINED, what, other than divine intervention, is going to change the course?

Possible ways that this thing will play out to something LESS than an almost ELE:

1. The "uncontrollable" aspect of this thing is somehow largely contained to the continent of Africa with any "out of Africa" outbreaks able to be contained "somehow".

2. A vaccine is produced soon enough and in sufficient quantity to mitigate the situation to less than an ELE.

3. A "cure" is produced soon enough and in sufficient quantity to mitigate the situation to less than an ELE.

4. Something we are not currently foreseeing causes this thing to slow down, level off, decline and finally burn-out well before it becomes an ELE.

Feel free to add your own thoughts as to HOW, WHY and WHEN this thing will be less than an ELE event.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
In church this morning---read and weep.........

A lady shared a prayer request.

Her sister and sister's family have some money (he works free-lance IT and so can go anyway as long as he has internet connection & still work) and so they have no set home and travel the world, constantly, with their young children.

Most recently they were in South Africa.

As they were nearing the time they had planned to leave South Africa and go to their next planned destination (Bulgaria) the youngest child (3 yo) developed a fever. Started at 101, and was slowly climbing. By morning of day they left child was also vomiting.

They debated---go to hospital w child, or board plane and see how child does with developing fever? Hospital or plane? Hospital or plane?

Plane won out--(didn't want to lose their tickets, I guess)---they got on board (I should mention this family is husband, wife, and several small children, of whom I think the 3 yo is the youngest)--and headed for next stop, which was Bulgaria.

However, they had a unexpected layover in Qatar--had to stay overnight there, I believe, or it may have been more than 1 night. They took a taxi to a hotel.

While staying in Qatar, child's fever got as high as 104, with vomiting, but then child began getting better, but then OTHER children, and the MOTHER, began having symptoms of illness (growing fevers).

Last the lady in church today heard, they had arrived in Bulgaria----youngest was better, but other children and mom now not feeling well--fever and vomiting.

None of them has as yet gone to see a doctor.



South Africa............Qatar............Bulgaria.


Don't KNOW that it was anything other than just "one of those things" kind of little stomach virus or whatever, but---


God help us.


Think what travel like this MIGHT mean.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Recognizing that we are now in UNCHARTED WATERS in regards to an Ebola Outbreak like this, this one already being over TWICE AS BAD and TWICE AS LONG as ALL OTHER EBOLA OUTBREAKS COMBINED, what, other than divine intervention, is going to change the course?

Possible ways that this thing will play out to something LESS than an almost ELE:

1. The "uncontrollable" aspect of this thing is somehow largely contained to the continent of Africa with any "out of Africa" outbreaks able to be contained "somehow".

2. A vaccine is produced soon enough and in sufficient quantity to mitigate the situation to less than an ELE.

3. A "cure" is produced soon enough and in sufficient quantity to mitigate the situation to less than an ELE.

4. Something we are not currently foreseeing causes this thing to slow down, level off, decline and finally burn-out well before it becomes an ELE.

Feel free to add your own thoughts as to HOW, WHY and WHEN this thing will be less than an ELE event.

The Obama-unicorn-bunny will defecate magic skittles which will prove to be a cure for the disease......


sounds as good as any other scenario....


(see below for where I got the Obama-unicorn thingy---starts at 1:12 in)
(may as well laugh as cry)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adc3MSS5Ydc
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
If epidemic Ebola arrives in the USA...
SOME ABSOLUTELY SUPER GOOD NEWS :eleph: RE: "EBOLA in the USA" (here is an EXCELLENT reason to be MUCH LESS afraid of the American medical system collapsing)


Although America presently, nationwide, only has 25 (level 4 ) isolation beds to treat Ebola patients Ebola patients here, level 4 isolation is not required to treat Ebola patients, and SUFFICIENT "isolation" can be utilized by DESIGNATING CERTAIN STRATEGICALLY LOCATED LARGE BED HOSPITALS AS "Ebola Patients ONLY", as needed, so that other hospitals can continue to render other medical care.

THAT EPIDEMIC RESPONSE PLAN should be PUBLICLY KNOWN, PRE- arranged and PREDESIGNATED so the public KNOWS where to go and WHERE NOT GO if they think they have Ebola! The SIGNS at the entrances of EVERY HOSPITAL INFORMING PATIENTS IF THEY ACCEPT suspected EBOLA PATIENTS AND WHERE to find THE NEAREST "EBOLA screening"and treatment HOSPITAL SHOULD BE PROMINENT!

If we respond to a epidemic in that manner, we have more than enough beds to be able to assure professional medical care for BOTH POTENTIAL Ebola patients AND ASSURE continuing care for OTHER MEDICAL NEEDS OF THE PUBLIC!

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50 Largest For-Profit Hospitals in America
[Ed. Curious, there are way more than twice as many non-profit, as for profit beds!]
Written by Jaimie Oh | July 21, 2011

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Here are the 50 largest for-profit hospitals in the United States, listed by number of beds.

Note: The hospital bed counts reported here include all medical/surgical and special care beds as reported to CMS by the hospitals in their most recent cost reports and, in some cases, may include bed counts from other facilities that share a provider number with the main hospital. The American Hospital Directory was used as a source to verify various part of the following text.

1. Methodist Hospital (San Antonio) — 1,406 beds
2. Edinburg (Texas) Regional Medical Center — 816 beds
3. Henrico Doctors' Hospital-Forest Campus (Richmond, Va.) — 808 beds
4. North Shore Medical Center (Miami) — 778 beds
5. CJW Medical Center-Chippenham Campus (Richmond, Va.) — 731 beds
7. Medical City Hospital (Dallas) — 645 beds
8. Sunrise Hospital and Medical Center (Las Vegas) — 638 beds
9. Brookwood Medical Center (Birmingham, Ala.) — 602 beds
10. Oklahoma University Medical Center (Oklahoma City) — 591 beds
11. Las Palmas Medical Center (El Paso, Texas) — 587 beds
12. Centennial Medical Center (Nashville, Tenn.) — 580 beds
13. McAllen (Texas) Medical Center — 572 beds
14. Hillcrest Medical Center (Tulsa, Okla.) — 535 beds
15. West Florida Hospital (Pensacola, Fla.) — 531 beds
16. Doctors Hospital at Renaissance (Edinburg, Texas) — 530 beds
17. Saint Francis Hospital (Memphis, Tenn.) — 528 beds
18. Wesley Medical Center (Wichita, Kan.) — 511 beds
19. Providence Memorial Hospital (El Paso, Texas) — 508 beds
20. Hahnemann University Hospital (Philadelphia) — 492 beds
22. Delray Medical Center (Delray Beach, Fla.) — 465 beds
23. Saint Mary's Medical Center (West Palm Beach, Fla.) — 463 beds
24. JFK Medical Center (Atlantis, Fla.) — 448 beds
25. Doctors Medical Center of Modesto (Calif.) — 445 beds
26. Park Plaza Hospital (Houston) — 444 beds
27. North Shore Medical Center-FMC Campus (Fort Lauderdale, Fla.) — 434 beds
28. Carolinas Hospital System (Florence, S.C.) — 431 beds
29. Houston Northwest Medical Center — 430 beds
30. Medical Center of Plano (Texas) — 427 beds
31. Northwest Texas Healthcare System (Amarillo, Texas) — 425 beds
32. Poplar Bluff (Mo.) Regional Medical Center-North Campus — 423 beds
33. Brotman Medical Center (Culver City, Calif.) — 420 beds
34. Wilkes-Barre (Pa.) General Hospital — 418 beds
35. Clear Lake Regional Medical Center (Webster, Texas) — 417 beds
36. Memorial Hospital (Jacksonville, Fla.) — 415 beds
37. Saint David's Medical Center (Austin, Texas) — 413 beds
38. Kendall Regional Medical Center (Miami) — 412 beds
39. Hollywood Presbyterian Medical Center (Los Angeles) — 410 beds
40. Aventura (Fla.) Hospital and Medical Center — 407 beds
41. Brandon (Fla.) Regional Hospital — 407 beds
42. Atlanta (Ga.) Medical Center — 403 beds
43. Lutheran Hospital of Indiana (Fort Wayne, Ind.) — 403 beds
44. Fountain Valley (Calif.) Regional Hospital and Medical Center — 400 beds
45. Baptist Hospitals of Southeast Texas-Beaumont Campus — 390 beds
46. Trident Medical Center (Charleston, S.C.) — 390 beds
47. Bayshore Medical Center (Pasadena, Texas) — 388 beds
48. Parkridge Medical Center (Chattanooga, Tenn.) — 387 beds
49. Blake Medical Center (Bradenton, Fla.) — 383 beds
50. Northwest Medical Center-Springdale (Ark.) — 378 beds
49. Largo (Fla.) Medical Center — 373 beds
50. Centinela Hospital Medical Center (Inglewood, Calif.) — 369 beds

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50 Largest Non-Profit Hospitals in America of 2011
Written by Kathleen Roney | June 20, 2012

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Here are the 50 largest non-profit hospitals in America, listed by number of beds.

Note: The hospital bed counts reported here include all medical/surgical and special care beds as reported to CMS by the hospitals in their most recent cost reports and, in some cases, may include bed counts from other facilities that share a provider number with the main hospital. The American Hospital Directory was used as a source to verify various parts of the following text.

1. New York Presbyterian Hospital/Weill Cornell Medical Center (New York City) — 2,286 beds
2. Florida Hospital Orlando — 2,067 beds
3. University of Pittsburgh Medical Center Presbyterian — 1,601 beds
4. Indiana University Health Methodist Hospital (Indianapolis) — 1,506 beds
5. Baptist Medical Center (San Antonio) — 1,443 beds
6. Montefiore Medical Center-Moses Division Hospital (Bronx, N.Y.) — 1,409 beds
7. Orlando (Fla.) Regional Medical Center — 1,401 beds
8. Methodist University Hospital (Memphis, Tenn.) — 1,296 beds
9. Barnes-Jewish Hospital (Saint Louis) — 1,284 beds
10. The Cleveland Clinic — 1,284 beds
11. Norton Hospital (Louisville, Ky.) — 1,263 beds
12. Buffalo (N.Y.) General Hospital — 1,241 beds
13. The Mount Sinai Medical Center (New York City) — 1,221 beds
14. North Shore University Hospital (Manhasset, N.Y.) — 1,080 beds
15. Christiana Hospital (Newark, Del.) — 1,075 beds
16. Beaumont Hospital-Royal Oak (Mich.) — 1,061 beds
17. Albert Einstein Medical Center (Philadelphia) — 1,012 beds
18. Jewish Hospital (Louisville, Ky.) — 1,012 beds
19. Beth Israel Medical Center-Petrie Division (New York City) — 1,003 beds
20. Spectrum Health Butterworth Hospital (Grand Rapids, Mich.) — 978 beds
21. Aurora Saint Luke's Medical Center (Milwaukee) — 973 beds
22. Cedars-Sinai Medical Center (Los Angeles) — 955 beds
23. The Brookdale University Hospital and Medical Center (Brooklyn, N.Y.) — 955 beds
24. The Moses H. Cone Memorial Hospital (Greensboro, N.C.) — 930 beds
25. Mercy Hospital Saint Louis — 919 beds
26. The Johns Hopkins Hospital (Baltimore) — 918 beds
27. Tampa (Fla.) General Hospital — 915 beds
28. Forsyth Medical Center (Winston-Salem, N.C.) — 913 beds
29. The Methodist Hospital (Houston) — 908 beds
30. Massachusetts General Hospital (Boston) — 907 beds
31. Charlton Memorial Hospital (Fall River, Mass.) — 889 beds
32. Saint Joseph's Hospital (Tampa, Fla.) — 881 beds
33. Baylor University Medical Center at Dallas — 879 beds
34. Yale-New Haven (Conn.) Hospital — 879 beds
35. Baptist Memorial Hospital-Memphis (Tenn.) — 872 beds
36. Shands at the University of Florida (Gainesville) — 870 beds
37. Long Island Jewish Medical Center (New Hyde Park, N.Y.) — 860 beds
38. Memorial Hermann-Texas Medical Center (Houston) — 860 beds
39. Saint Mary's Hospital (Rochester, Minn.) — 859 beds
40. Inova Fairfax Hospital (Falls Church, Va.) — 856 beds
41. Thomas Jefferson University Hospital (Philadelphia) — 856 beds
42. Loma Linda (Calif.) University Medical Center — 854 beds
43. Lakeland (Fla.) Regional Medical Center — 851 beds
44. Northwestern Memorial Hospital (Chicago) — 848 beds
45. Saint Luke's-Roosevelt Hospital Center (New York City) — 847 beds
46. Lehigh Valley Hospital-Cedar Crest (Allenton, Pa.) — 845 beds
47. Vidant Medical Center (Greenville, N.C.) — 845 beds
48. Vanderbilt University Medical Center (Nashville, Tenn.) — 842 beds
49. Wake Forest Baptist Medical Center (Winston-Salem, N.C.) — 840 beds
50. New York University Langone Medical Center (New York City) — 829 beds
 
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Tristan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Recognizing that we are now in UNCHARTED WATERS in regards to an Ebola Outbreak like this, this one already being over TWICE AS BAD and TWICE AS LONG as ALL OTHER EBOLA OUTBREAKS COMBINED, what, other than divine intervention, is going to change the course?

Possible ways that this thing will play out to something LESS than an almost ELE:

1. The "uncontrollable" aspect of this thing is somehow largely contained to the continent of Africa with any "out of Africa" outbreaks able to be contained "somehow".

2. A vaccine is produced soon enough and in sufficient quantity to mitigate the situation to less than an ELE.

3. A "cure" is produced soon enough and in sufficient quantity to mitigate the situation to less than an ELE.

4. Something we are not currently foreseeing causes this thing to slow down, level off, decline and finally burn-out well before it becomes an ELE.

Feel free to add your own thoughts as to HOW, WHY and WHEN this thing will be less than an ELE event.

Abject terror causes people to forgo any sort of social interactions?
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
Although America presently, nationwide, only has 25 (level 4 ) isolation beds to treat Ebola patients Ebola patients here, level 4 isolation is not required to treat Ebola patients, and SUFFICIENT "isolation" can be utilized by DESIGNATING CERTAIN STRATEGICALLY LOCATED LARGE BED HOSPITALS AS "Ebola Patients ONLY", as needed, so that other hospitals can continue to render other medical care.

In a sad sort of way, that's pretty funny. So the med staff is going to serve at a hospital without proper protection, as a way of sacrificing themselves to save the other doctors at other hospitals? They're going to walk into the hot zone willingly? In what universe?
 

Kris Gandillon

The Other Curmudgeon
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In a sad sort of way, that's pretty funny. So the med staff is going to serve at a hospital without proper protection, as a way of sacrificing themselves to save the other doctors at other hospitals? They're going to walk into the hot zone willingly? In what universe?

Hah, hah...BW just made a NEW "funny"...think you should change your member name to "PrettyFunny". Then we could have ainitfunny and prettyfunny duke it out on threads!
 

DHR43

Since 2001
It appears a little, tiny, almost insignificant amount of realism is creeping, ever so slowly, into these weekly Ebola terror threads. Here's support to that trend:

http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/09/13/ebola-the-covert-op-of-modern-medicine/

"Ebola: the covert op of modern medicine

by Jon Rappoport

September 13, 2014

“Tell them the biggest lie, yes. But they have to want the kind of lie you’re telling. It has to give them equal parts fear and fascination.” (Ellis Medavoy, retired propaganda operative)

“Overwhelmed.” “Can’t contain.” “Rapid spread.” Crossed borders.” “Predicting five million deaths.” “Too late to stop it.”

These and other familiar terms are stock-in-trade for the disease propaganda establishment.

The word “outbreak,” of course, is at the top of the list.

It suggests that the population in question is otherwise healthy—but suddenly people are dropping like flies.

In West Africa, for example, where global attention is focused on Ebola, “otherwise healthy” is a cynical myth.

Contaminated water; a decade of brutal war displacing huge numbers of people; chronic grinding poverty; severe malnutrition and starvation; inherently toxic vaccines and medicines that are devastating to people whose immune systems are already on the brink of failing; industrial pollutants in the streams and soil—that’s the pre-Ebola baseline called “otherwise healthy.”

Then there is the matter of diagnosis of Ebola. As I’ve explained in past articles, two of the most widely used tests—antibody and PCR—are both pathetically unreliable methods for disease analysis.

Therefore, the counting of Ebola cases and deaths, which depends on those tests, lacks any degree of authenticity.

On top of that, examining the track record of the CDC and the World Health Organization, when they intentionally and falsely overstated case numbers and deaths from Swine Flu…well, only a fool would believe their reports on Ebola.

But none of this stops true believers, who suck up press reports and press images like thirsty desert travelers kneeling at an oasis.

Not to burst the bubble, but…consider the World Health Organization report, April 2009, titled, “Influenza (Seasonal).” Discussing ordinary flu, it estimates 5 million cases a year, around the world, and between 250,000 and 500,000 deaths. Every year. Like clockwork.

True numbers or false numbers, the point is this: because there is zero propaganda about ordinary flu, no dire imagery, no breathless press reportage, nobody cares. Nobody says “outbreak.” No one predicts the collapse of society.

Imagine what would happen if you kept those huge global flu numbers and simply substituted “Ebola” for “flu.”

Because of the heavy propaganda re Ebola, the world would go completely mad overnight.

When the Washington Post (9/9) now reports that, ahem, “…only 31% of Ebola cases have been lab-confirmed through blood tests [in Liberia],” not an eyebrow is raised.

Who cares? Who needs diagnostic tests? Who needs science? They’re all dying from Ebola. We know that because…well, they are, we saw the pictures of the Ebola-virus worm-like thing, everybody was healthy and then they dropped dead, it’s escaping across the borders, and it’s from Africa, where terrible things originate (never Brooklyn or Peoria), let’s all buy haz-mat suits.
A picture of the Ebola-virus worm-like thing.

A picture of the Ebola-virus worm-like thing.

Ebola health workers in West Africa have, in fact, been wearing haz-mat suits all long. Sealed off from the outside, working shifts inside those boiling suits, where they are losing 5 quarts of body fluid an hour, they come out for rehydration, douse themselves with toxic chemicals to disinfect, and then go back in again.

One doctor told the Daily Mail he could smell intense fumes of chlorine while he was working in his suit. That means the toxic chemical was actually in there with him.

No wonder some health workers are collapsing and dying.

But ignore all that. It doesn’t mesh with the narrative of the virus mowing down everyone in its path.

And to depart from the propaganda narrative again—if someone wanted to step up the killing rate in West Africa, seeding it with a virus wouldn’t be the best choice. Germs are too unpredictable in their effects.

Much more predictable: spread an undetectable poisonous chemical and CALL it a virus.

In that case, the image of the virus serves as the cover story.

Precedent? Enormous precedent for using a germ as a cover story?

HIV.

Assuming that virus was ever really isolated and identified to begin with (an irrational stretch), its supposedly lethal impact has never been established on any scientific grounds. There is no reason to believe it has killed anyone.

In Africa, death by wasting away, starvation, protein-calorie malnutrition, contaminated water, poverty, war, overcrowding, stolen land have formed the basis of life for millions of people.

Local dictators, elite investors, foreign corporations have wanted to keep things that way—without revealing their hand. While they were taking over the abundant natural wealth of nations.

Their murderous ongoing op needed a cover story.

Enter the disease propagandists.

They established the narrative of a killer virus. HIV.

On October 19, 1985, researcher D. Serwadda announced a new disease in Uganda, with his paper on “Slim,” published in Lancet. The myth of Slim, soon called AIDS, absurdly listed two prominent symptoms: weight loss and diarrhea.

These “symptoms,” of course, have been endemic in parts of Africa for centuries. Among the obvious causes? Contaminated water and severe malnutrition—prolonged and exacerbated by local dictators selling out their countries to foreign corporate invaders, while keeping their own populations too weak to resist.

No virus necessary.

But linking Slim to AIDS to HIV yielded the desired cover.

I wrote about all this in 1988, in my first book, AIDS Inc. I explained that medical covert ops are the most dangerous on the planet, because they appear to be political neutral. They wave no partisan banners. They hide behind the expression of “humanitarian concerns.”

Sealing off West Africa now, under the banner of “stopping the Ebola epidemic and healing the people,” is another chapter in this sordid tale of centuries.

The true objective of the covert op has always been the same: steal the fertile land and the natural resources. Disable, weaken, and destroy the people.

As in all intelligence ops, the classic hallmarks are there: secret hidden objective; cover story; limited hangout (“during the heroic effort, some mistakes were made, lessons were learned”); subtle scapegoating (blame the victims).

The op deploys many unknowing dupes. They follow the script. They believe in it. A few people at the top know the score.

Consider this. If germs were actually the sole and primary cause of disease, regardless of other factors present, we’d all be long gone by now. There would be no people left on planet Earth.

Untold millions of germs a) circulate and b) live in our bodies. Many of them mutate on a regular basis. No bioengineering necessary.

There is, however, a more basic factor in disease. Some people call it “the terrain” of the body—otherwise known as the immune system.

Immune defense is much more than a few classes of cells. It is, in fact, the whole body and its processes, as well as the mind.

In many areas of the world, as I’ve just described, horrendous conditions deplete the immune system: malnutrition, starvation, sewage pumped into the water supply, overcrowding, poverty, war, hopelessness, industrial pollution on a vast scale, etc.

Then, with the damage done, any old germ that sweeps through the population brings about illness and death—because the body, which would otherwise throw off the germ easily, instead succumbs.

That is the true picture.

Germs, germs, germs as the sole cause of disease is THE cover story for modern medicine.

It sustains, for example, the whole fairy tale about the need for vaccination.

Generally speaking, when a healthy person naturally engages with certain germs, he mounts a full and acute inflammatory response, during which he throws off the germ.

This inflammatory response has visible markers; for example, fever, rashes, spots, swelling.

These are labeled “symptoms of the disease.” Actually, they aren’t symptoms. They’re signs that the body is doing its job.

Vaccines, with their immunosuppressive effects, weaken and damp down the full inflammatory response. Therefore, the visible “symptoms” don’t occur.

And doctors claim this Absence means the person has acquired immunity from the disease targeted by the vaccine.

Not so. Other “symptoms” will occur and will become visible, as the body tries to fight against the toxic elements in the vaccine.

Doctors say, “Look here. Different symptoms. This is a different disease. We eradicated the other disease with the vaccine. Now we have to develop a vaccine and drugs against this one…”

On and on it goes. Polio becomes meningitis. Measles becomes encephalitis.

At every step, the person’s immune system becomes weaker, because he is being subjected to germs and toxic chemicals, in vaccines, injected directly into the body, bypassing many centers of immune defense.

In West Africa, during the last five years, several vaccine campaigns have been launched: yellow fever, polio, meningitis. Given to people whose immune systems are already teetering on the edge of collapse, the effects are devastating.

But of course, no one says, “Vaccine-induced disease and destruction.” Instead, they say, “Heroic efforts are being made to reverse the ongoing health crisis in Liberia.”

Every time a new “epidemic” comes along—HIV, West Nile, SARS, bird flu, Swine Flu, Ebola—the propaganda machines goes to work with, “Germ, germ, germ, germ.”

This cover story fortifies and controls the false public perception of what disease is all about. It’s a poster ad.

“In order to fight the heinous virus, doctors are our only recourse. Without them and their potions, we are powerless.”

This is exactly the goal of the overall covert op.

The customer not only wants the product. He believes he can’t live without it.

This is why the medical cartel and its allies wage a ceaseless, vicious, and lying war against “natural health.” The whole thrust of natural answers is: expand the power of the immune system.

Otherwise known as: putting the medical cartel out of business.

Otherwise known as: dissolving the covert ops designed to control and decimate populations. "
 
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Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
oh good grief.


a conspiracy behind a conspiracy behind a conspiracy....


but it's all just really made-up anyway because somebody else wants the land.


:rolleyes:
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
For links see article source.....
Posted for fair use.....
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20140914/ebola-4c604e8a5d.html

4th doctor dies of Ebola in Sierra Leone

Sep 14, 7:59 AM (ET)
By CLARENCE ROY-MACAULAY

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FREETOWN, Sierra Leone (AP) — Sierra Leone has lost a fourth doctor to Ebola after a failed effort to transfer her abroad for medical treatment, a government official said Sunday, a huge setback to the impoverished country that is battling the virulent disease amid a shortage of health care workers.

Dr. Olivet Buck died late Saturday, hours after the World Health Organization said it could not help medically evacuate her to Germany, Chief Medical Officer Dr. Brima Kargbo confirmed to The Associated Press.

Sierra Leone had requested funds from WHO to transport Buck to Europe, saying the country could not afford to lose another doctor.

WHO had said that it could not meet the request but instead would work to give Buck "the best care possible" in Sierra Leone, including possible access to experimental drugs.

Ebola is spread through direct contact with the bodily fluids of sick patients, making doctors and nurses especially vulnerable to contracting the virus that has no vaccine or approved treatment.

More than 300 health workers have become infected with Ebola in Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone. Nearly half of them have died, according to WHO.

The infections have exacerbated shortages of doctors and nurses in West African countries that were already low on skilled health personnel.

So far, only foreign health and aid workers have been evacuated abroad from Sierra Leone and Liberia for treatment.

Dr. Sheik Humarr Khan, Sierra Leone's top Ebola doctor, was being considered for evacuation to a European country when he died of the disease in late July.
 

rummer

Veteran Member
A lady shared a prayer request.

Her sister and sister's family have some money (he works free-lance IT and so can go anyway as long as he has internet connection & still work) and so they have no set home and travel the world, constantly, with their young children.

Most recently they were in South Africa.

As they were nearing the time they had planned to leave South Africa and go to their next planned destination (Bulgaria) the youngest child (3 yo) developed a fever. Started at 101, and was slowly climbing. By morning of day they left child was also vomiting.

They debated---go to hospital w child, or board plane and see how child does with developing fever? Hospital or plane? Hospital or plane?

Plane won out--(didn't want to lose their tickets, I guess)---they got on board (I should mention this family is husband, wife, and several small children, of whom I think the 3 yo is the youngest)--and headed for next stop, which was Bulgaria.

However, they had a unexpected layover in Qatar--had to stay overnight there, I believe, or it may have been more than 1 night. They took a taxi to a hotel.

While staying in Qatar, child's fever got as high as 104, with vomiting, but then child began getting better, but then OTHER children, and the MOTHER, began having symptoms of illness (growing fevers).

Last the lady in church today heard, they had arrived in Bulgaria----youngest was better, but other children and mom now not feeling well--fever and vomiting.

None of them has as yet gone to see a doctor.



South Africa............Qatar............Bulgaria.


Don't KNOW that it was anything other than just "one of those things" kind of little stomach virus or whatever, but---


God help us.


Think what travel like this MIGHT mean.

WOW, Typhoid Mary and her family. This is how it will get here, people just don't care if they infect others.
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
DR. Olivet Buck. She is not just a name.

There is no tribute, no thanks, no photo, no bio on Dr. Olivet Buck, and it bugged me. So, i tracked down SOMEONE WITH AT LEAST A PHOTO OF HER, and her nationality ( Sierra Leone citizen). But, i was unable to find out much, if she was married or had any children.
THANK YOU Dr. Buck, FOR LAYING DOWN YOUR LIFE FOR YOUR COUNTRYMEN.
http://www.cbc.ca/player/News/Health/ID/2518086624/
I am on my ipad, so, IF SOMEONE CAN SCREEN CAPTURE HER PHOTO from the above link, and paste it on my post or on this thread, i would appreciate it. [Done - Kris]
 

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A virus hunter faces the big one: Ebola

(photos at link)

By Todd C. Frankel September 14 at 7:38 PM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...63cb62-3a07-11e4-8601-97ba88884ffd_story.html



FREETOWN, Sierra Leone — Joseph Fair hunts viruses. That’s his thing. The 37-year-old American loves chasing dangerous pathogens, studying them in secure labs or searching for them in jungles where the microbes lurk.

And one virus has always loomed as the big one — Ebola. The scientists who first chased this dreaded microbe back in the ’80s and ’90s became legends, inspiring a generation of virologists like Fair. He read their books and papers. He studied how they contained the pathogen’s spread. And the scientists always won. The outbreaks ended, Ebola driven away.

So when the call came in March to travel to Sierra Leone, Fair was excited. He loved Mama Salone, as locals know the nation. He’d worked here for years. His new job: to advise Sierra Leone’s government on a tiny Ebola outbreak in neighboring Guinea, at the behest of the U.S. Defense Department. He set up an Ebola emergency operations center. He trained medical staff. He drew up just-in-case plans. By mid-May, the outbreak seemed on its way out. Fair packed his bags and left.

Then Ebola exploded.

Now, Fair is back in West Africa, in the middle of the worst Ebola outbreak in history. A viral epidemic. The world’s ability to respond is stretched. Plans are being devised on the fly.

“This is the big one no one expected,” Fair says.

It has been a humbling time. Fair has worked seven days a week, hunting for ways to curb the outbreak, at times begging international groups for staff and supplies. He is exhausted. He’s put on 15 pounds. He sent his girlfriend home to California months ago. Too dangerous here, he told her. He’s seen Sierra Leonean doctors and nurses — friends he’s known for years — get infected and die. He sweated out his own Ebola scare.

“It’s like he was trying single-handedly to stop this outbreak,” says Randal Schoepp, chief of the U.S. Army’s applied diagnostics branch at Fort Detrick, Md., who has worked with Fair in West Africa.

But the number of new Ebola cases has just kept shooting higher, like an unbreakable fever.

For Fair and other scientists, this has not felt like failure. It is more complicated than that.

“As bad as it has been,” observes Connie Schmaljohn, senior research scientist at the Army’s Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases, “it could’ve been worse if people like Joseph hadn’t been there.”
Under pressure

Now, Fair is taking a rare break. He is sitting on the outdoor deck at a hotel where U.N. peacekeepers used to live after this country’s long civil war. The Mammy Yoko today is filled with aid workers and doctors. Fair wears a black T-shirt and blue jeans, his blonde hair going gray near the temples. He is nursing a double shot of whiskey, a nod to both his eastern Kentucky roots and his mounting stress.

The son of a nurse and a college professor, Fair grew up with dreams of being a missionary. He wanted to help people. In college at Loyola University New Orleans, he read “Virus Hunter,” about famed virologist C.J. Peters’s career chasing Ebola and other pathogens. Fair discovered a new calling. A few years later, he was working at Peters’s lab at the University of Texas Medical Branch in Galveston. Peters recalls how Fair volunteered to work with hot viruses in the highest-security labs.

“That indicated right away that he was going to do things,” Peters recalls. “It’s been gratifying to see him take up the cudgel.”

Now, on the hotel deck, another famed Ebola hunter sits at a nearby table. Tom Ksiazek was recently tapped by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to help in Sierra Leone. He and Fair work together at the Ebola emergency operations center.

“A CDC legend,” Fair says with admiration after Ksiazek stops by to say hello.

In a far corner, a group gathers to welcome the new World Health Organization representative in Sierra Leone. The previous one had been shipped home. The WHO blames exhaustion. But many here see it differently.

“Someone has to take the fall when things go like this,” Fair says.

“Like this” would be the criticism that the WHO and other international groups were slow to respond to the tragedy in West Africa. Governments are under pressure, too. Liberia’s government could fall. Sierra Leone’s health minister, who was officially directing the national Ebola response, lost her job last month.

But no one expected this epidemic. No one anticipated that Ebola — a disease with no cure and a 21-day incubation period that is spread through close contact with blood, saliva or sweat — would sweep into urban areas, especially in West Africa. Every previous outbreak occurred in remote settings.

“You’d like to think someone was thinking about this all along,” Fair says. “But not so much.”

In 2012, Fair gave a talk that seemed to foreshadow the current crisis. He was working for a company that aimed to head off pandemics, such as the H1N1 flu and SARS. At San Francisco-based Metabiota, formerly called Global Viral Forecasting, founded by well-known virus hunter Nathan Wolfe, Fair conducted lots of medical diplomacy work for the U.S. government.

In that talk at the World Vaccine Congress, Fair warned about delays in tackling viral outbreaks. “We truly have a political problem when it comes to responding to these diseases,” he said.

So it seemed like a good sign when Fair was dispatched to Sierra Leone in late March before even the first Ebola diagnosis was made. The WHO had asked for his help. The Defense Department sent him — more medical diplomacy. Guinea was investigating 49 cases of an unknown hemorrhagic fever.

Fair knew Sierra Leone from his work at a U.S.-funded lab that focused on Lassa fever, a hemorrhagic fever similar to Ebola, but spread by rats. The small lab in the eastern city of Kenema was the county’s most advanced, the only one capable of testing for Ebola.

Before he could get settled, Guinea’s mystery illness was confirmed as the dreaded Ebola.

Fair and others raced to face an Ebola outbreak expected to spill across borders. Hospital staff were taught to look for the high fevers and weakness of suspected Ebola sufferers. Isolation wards were set up. Medical surveillance teams were trained to track infections. Rubber boots, bleach and thermometers were distributed. A national media campaign was launched to introduce 6 million people to a disease never seen before in Sierra Leone.

“There were a lot of people in denial that it was real,” Fair says.

And he waited. April turned to May. Hundreds of people with Ebola symptoms were tested: Nothing. Not a single case. Guinea and Liberia were quiet, too. Aid groups such as Doctors Without Borders were optimistic. The WHO declared the outbreak, after about 260 cases, “stable.”

Scientists consider an Ebola outbreak extinguished if no new cases are detected after 42 days — the length of two incubation periods. That vital deadline approached in the last week of May.

Fair flew to Paris. He was burned out. He’d been hustling for weeks. He’d broken with Metabiota and was heading out on his own. Then, on May 25, he received an e-mail from the WHO: Ebola was back.
‘Everyone freaked out’

New cases were reported in Guinea and Liberia, plus Sierra Leone. Fair was stunned. They had been so close. He wanted to return to Mama Salone. A couple of weeks later, the Defense Department asked him to go back. They couldn’t pay him, but they could cobble together enough funding to cover his flights, a small per diem and his health insurance.

He returned in early July. He set out to Kenema, a four-hour drive from Freetown, to visit his close friend Sheik Humarr Khan, a virologist who ran the Lassa lab and was now caring for Ebola patients. Fair delivered fresh supplies of biohazard suits and gloves. He hugged and kissed the hospital’s head nurse, Mbalu Sankoh.

Days later, Sankoh developed a fever. It was Ebola. Fair had been exposed. He spent three weeks wondering if he felt hot, wondering if every ache was a sign of a raging infection.

He was lucky. But Khan contracted Ebola. Forty hospital staff in Kenema ended up being infected. The Ebola ward was overwhelmed. When Khan died July 29, the nation was stunned. He was hailed as a national hero. But people’s confidence was rattled. And the preparations for handling the Ebola outbreak, already teetering, collapsed.

“That all went to pot because everyone freaked out,” Fair says.

Hospitals shut down. Nurses refused to work. People became afraid to admit they were showing signs of Ebola, leading to more infections. Fair felt the world was ignoring the seriousness of the outbreak. He pleaded for more biohazard suits, rubber gloves, cellphone cards for staff trying to trace Ebola contacts, fuel for cars used by Ebola surveillance teams. He’d request field epidemiologists to track the outbreak in far-flung provinces. He got data epidemiologists to sit in offices. He spent days on the phone trying just to source ambulances equipped with dividers between the front and back.

“We were pretty much isolated teams functioning on the basics,” Fair says.

The number of Ebola cases has surpassed 4,000. Some think it could reach 20,000 or much higher. Now, just stopping new infections, gaining some control of the pathogen’s spread, is the goal. That will take months. The world is paying attention now.

Starting Friday, the country will shut down for three days. Almost no one will be allowed to go outside. The forced quarantine is like digging a break line to slow a raging fire. It might buy a little time. It will allow 20,000 workers to hunt for overlooked Ebola infections and conduct rapid malaria tests to rule out that common disease. The workers also will try to educate people about Ebola and hand out 1.5 million bars of soap.

It’s never been tried before. Fair is unsure whether it’ll work. This is a poor country. Many people don’t have refrigerators or ample supplies of food at home. Officials will probably have to transform empty schools and churches into makeshift Ebola isolation wards just to handle the crush of newly uncovered cases. But Fair believes it’s important to reinforce messages about how Ebola is spread and how it can be stopped.

The world has never seen an Ebola outbreak like this. The famed virus hunters of the past never dealt with a hemorrhagic fever entrenched in cities. In two weeks, Fair will fly to Washington for a congressional panel discussion on Ebola, joining CDC Director Tom Frieden. Fair wants to draw more attention to what’s happening in Sierra Leone. He could also use the break. Exhaustion is creeping back in. But he’ll be going back to Mama Salone. He is not giving up.

“If the world lets me,” he says, “I won’t let this ever happen again.”


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Oreally

Right from the start
I am pretty much settled that around next march, +- 20 or so days, will be the last period before the entire world system goes into total systemic chaos. To the rest of the world it will seem alike things fell apart overnight, but not to anyone here.

Being chaotic, it will be actually possible to foresee what exactly that means. A critical shortage of this causing a breakdown in that, or an irrational political decision, the derivatives and markets crash, banking system freezes up, certain countries closing off access by any means, who knows?

I 'm intuiting the total breakdown in the fall.

it is going to be bad.

loading and shipping a 1/2 container hopefully by then.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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Jon Rappoport really doesn't have much of a science background, does he?! Good GRIEF, that was a mishmash of insanity!! I'm SO glad Ebola doesn't really exist (apparently so, because the two tests are "notably unreliable"- interestingly, from all evidence, they give a lot of false NEGATIVES, not positives), and that it's really an overdose of chlorine that's killing all those health care workers.

He's also never heard of a cytokine storm, either, apparently.

And apparently, he's never had the sad experience of having a "strong, well nourished and healthy" family member or friend suddenly become deathly ill from H1N1, and end up needing a heart transplant due to viral cardiomyopathy.

Leading a sheltered life doesn't lend itself to clear vision.

Summerthyme
 

Possible Impact

TB Fanatic
MSF International @MSF · Sep 13
Our new #Ebola ward is almost ready
but it's far from enough.
Monrovia needs 800 + more beds yesterday!

pic.twitter.com/HLRK4AQxtf



MSF International @MSF · 2h
Lucie our nurse supervisor in #Monrovia
trained 20 new Liberian medical staff today.
She'll do it all again tomorrow.
pic.twitter.com/HbkO2d4rGt




MSF International @MSF · 3h
Explore an #Ebola Care Centre: an #MSF interactive guide.
http://www.msf.org/article/interactive-explore-ebola-care-centre
pic.twitter.com/xINc053RhF





^^^ American farm animals have better living conditions than that!
When someone says "African hospital", what does your mind picture?
 

SheWoff

Southern by choice
Ebola alert also at ports: Centre

MUMBAI: Central government told Bombay high court on Monday that passengers on ships arriving from Western Africa are not allowed to disembark as part of measures to curb Ebola spread.

Centre's advocate Rui Rodrigues informed the court in response to the State government stating that the director of health services, Mumbai has written to the Jawaharlal Nehru Port Trust/Mumbai Port Trust authorities to start screening of crew members of the vessels coming from Ebola-affected countries. A division bench of justice Abhay Oka and justice Girish Kulkarni heard a public interest litigation by activist Ketan Tirodkar questioning the preparedness of the government.

In an affidavit filed in compliance of the high court's September 10 order to provide with 48 hours health screening facilities at Pune and Nagpur airports, the government informed that medical staff has been deployed at Pune and Nagpur , which receives three and six flights in a week but they are not directly from Ebola affected countries. However it pointed out that thermal scanners, which are used for preliminary screening to identify variation of body temperature and are provided at Mumbai international airport, is not available at Pune and Nagpur. It urged for immediate despatch of thermal scanners saying at present only digital thermometers are being used for measure the temperature of pasengers.

The judges directed the Centre to reply to State government's affidavit and posted the hearing on September 17.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Ebola-alert-also-at-ports-Centre/articleshow/42543145.cms
 

Possible Impact

TB Fanatic
Sierra Leone News :
How Ebola Killed a popular Freetown female doctor, Dr. Olivette Buck


By A. Samba and S. Kamara
Sep 15, 2014, 12:14
http://news.sl/drwebsite/publish/article_200526221.shtml
Another painful loss to Sierra Leone has occurred. It has left tears and
wailing in Sierra Leone and abroad. Dr. Olivette Buck who tested
positive for Ebola on Tuesday 9th September 2014 has in early morning
hours of Sunday 14th September 2014 met her demise as our nation
continues to suffer in the cruel hands of the Ebola virus disease. As a
medical superintendent attached to Lumley Hospital in Sierra Leone’s
capital city, she was very well liked and popular. Prior to becoming a
doctor, she was a schoolteacher at Annie Walsh Memorial School and
many prominent Sierra Leonean women in the society today had all
passed through her hands at that school. Her death therefore prompted
a huge backlash of fury that her life could not be saved when she fell ill
with the virus.


However, in-depth investigations by this newspaper over the past few
days, have uncovered some startling facts which will shed better light on
the demise of this well-respected and highly adored late medical doctor.


As the Lumley Hospital premises were being fumigated on Thursday 11th
September 2014, this newspaper’s team went on the ground and carried
out interviews with nurses, staff and even some of the admitted patients
who had earlier fled the hospital and gone to their various homes.


Our extensive, thorough fact-finding has uncovered the disappointing
fact that Dr. Olivette Buck had fallen ill with clear cut signs of Ebola for
over one week in form of fever and headache for which, she did not seek
to get tested for Ebola but was self-treating herself.


According to two of her nursing staff who asked not to be named, it all
started sometime just after mid-August when due to lack of protective
clothing, they got exposed to at least one Ebola patient at the hospital.


One nurse explained that they, junior staff, staged a sit-down strike to
call attention to their plight. She lamented that within the given 2 to 21
days incubation period from that August exposure to the Ebola virus, Dr.
Buck on Monday 1st September 2014 turned up at the Lumley hospital
with a high fever and asked the laboratory for a Malaria blood test to be
done on her. Our source said subsquent to this, she progressively
became even sicker to the extent that on one day that week, “for the
very first time since she started work at Lumley”, it was her husband,
Reverend Jenner Buck who drove her to work as she was too ill herself.
On Friday 5th September, she appeared for work and was so ill that she
asked for an intravenous drip to be administered on her. This was
willingly done by four (4) of her nurses (names with-held). Some nurses
also went to her residence where they helped to take care of her at
home that weekend.


The following Monday 8th September, the concerned staff went on, Dr.
Buck indeed came to work but was still not better; at which point, it was
reminded of the incident back in August of thedead Ebola patient. It was
advised to be considered that it might not be Malaria but it was Ebola. At
this time, she had already been very sick since at least the Monday
before (1st September 2014) but had been treating herself.


The next day Tuesday 9th September, her blood was drawn only for the
results to come in on Wednesday as positive for Ebola. At this point, she
had been sick with Ebola now for at least ten days and the virus had
ravaged her immune system taking her health downhill.


She was admitted into the Isolation Unit at Connaught Hospital where
she was given palliative care until she passed away on Sunday 14th
September.


Two of Lumley Laboratory Technicians Mr. Paul and Mr. Amara spoke to
this newspaper and confirmed the report that they did the Malaria and
other tests on her but the results showed no sugar neither malaria in
her blood sample.


The hospital has meanwhile been totally disinfected and work should
resume on Monday 15th September. However, affected staff, especially
the four nurses, who were in contact with the late doctor, are to be
quarantined.


Meanwhile, staff of the hospital are bitterly complaining of stigmatisation
in the community where they are treated as Ebola suspects.


“Communities, neighbors and even family members now discriminate
and marginalize us,” a nurse wept.


In that light, Honorable Member of Parliament representing that area’s
Constituency 112, Hon. Sheku Amani Sannoh has called a meeting and
urged for an end to such awful stigmatisation.


© Copyright by Awareness Times Newspaper in Freetown, Sierra Leone.
 

SheWoff

Southern by choice
“We Are Running Out of Time” – A Letter from the Front Lines of Ebola

The US Government has taken action to respond to the devastating Ebola epidemic in West Africa: about 100 CDC staffers have been deployed, $100 million spent on medical supplies and training, and an additional $75 million planned for 1,000 beds and 130,000 protective suits. But unfortunately these resources aren’t reaching Liberia and other affected countries quickly enough to slow the spread of the disease. Engineers, logisticians and biohazards specialists are urgently needed to move quickly. We don’t have time to be training volunteers and contracting firms if we want to stop the disease. It’s time to call in the marines…

CGD has long worked with the Government of Liberia*, and this weekend, some of us received the following message from our colleague and friend Gyude Moore working in the Office of the President, that spells out the terrible tragedy being lived in Liberia, and the need for a faster, more decisive response. With Gyude’s permission, we’re reprinting here:

All,
Thanks for all who've sent emails, Facebook messages and contacted me in other ways wishing us the best, sending us prayers and all manner of positive vibes. It's hell here.

Two days ago a lady with a 9-year old and a 6-month old passed. Her husband had died from the disease and she took care of him. She got sick and the 9-year old took care of her. Now she's dead and both children have Ebola. Seriously, how does one go to sleep with information like that?

This is Africa, still a VIP culture so if you got into a problem, you just call a "big man" you know. Some guy I know in passing contacted me yesterday. He was at an Ebola Treatment Unit and with his sister who was presenting all the classic Ebola symptoms. But the ETU was full - no beds. They had to take her home. She was symptomatic and therefore contagious. I couldn't help him. There were just no beds. In 21 days, there will be deaths in that home. So I go every day and try to see if we can speed up the ETUs. But even there we have problems. Were we to eventually scale up to 1000 beds, there's not enough medical staff (trained medical staff) to run these units and Ebola deaths are horrendous.

The WHO has one engineer here to design the treatment centers. For those who've seen my Facebook posts, you'll see the same guy in all the pictures. He has to travel great distances across town, in this god awful traffic from site to site. From the look of things we might get about 1500 beds in three weeks - but I am afraid that by then we'll need 3000 to 5000. Each Ebola victim has about 10 contacts. Nobody even wants to think about what would happen if we had 3 to 5 thousand confirmed cases.

How do we avoid the nightmare above? Isolation, isolation, isolation. We are sending sick people back home where they are a threat to their families and communities. And when people eventually die (corpses are like Ebola bombs exploding), they die at home where whole families become contaminated. Isolation doesn't simply break the transmission chain, it ensures that if the patient does pass away, it is in the controlled environment of a treatment center where he/she will not be able to infect others.

We need to build ETUs fast and bring in trained medical staff to handle them. While one appreciates the fear associated with the disease, it is important to note that, Medecins Sans Frontiers has over 400 beds of Ebola patients among Liberia, Guinea and Sierra Leone and has been running these since December last year. Not a single member of the staff - expat or local, medical or support - has gotten infected. There are infection control protocols. It can be done. But you need medical personnel. Before Ebola we had 1 doctor for every 100,000 persons. We have since lost 79 health care workers. We can't do this on our own. Not even on our best day.

We have sent letters to the US, Russia, Japan, Germany, Brazil, China, Canada, South Africa and Australia with this request:

Mr. President/Prime Minister, at the current rate of infections, only governments like yours have the resources and assets to deploy at the pace and scale required to arrest the spread. Branches of your military and civilian institutions already have the expertise in dealing with biohazards, infectious diseases and chemical agents. They already understand appropriate infection control protocols and we saw these assets deployed in Aceh after the tsunami and in Haiti after the earthquake. It is in appreciation of the difference in kind of disaster, that we requesting assistance from units with expertise in managing biohazards.

We need help. If we don't build at least 1000 beds in the next week and a half, we will be so far from shore in these uncharted waters, I struggle to imagine how we would return to land. Whatever you can do, whoever you know. We need help. We really do. We are running out of time.
President Obama is expected to appoint an Ebola czar and detail his plans for a "major Ebola offensive” tomorrow at the CDC. I hope this use of military terminology is no mistake; the President should announce a large-scale Department of Defense effort to deliver as many beds as quickly as possible, and as many biohazard management teams as can be deployed. And Congress should approve the additional $88 million needed to fund this response. Can’t Seabees build beds faster than a USAID contractor? Aren’t military-run logistics –as in the early days of the Haiti response – swifter and more efficient than relying on NGO systems? I would leave it to the experts involved to advise.

But one thing is clear: more than six months into the worst Ebola outbreak in history, our current response is inadequate and more needs to be done – now.

*After her election, President Johnson Sirleaf was advised by then CGD fellow Steve Radelet; CGD funded the Scott Family Liberia Fellows program and selected young professionals, including Gyude Moore to be placed as special assistants to senior Liberian government officials; and we continue to be engaged in efforts to link expected natural resource rents to cash transfers.

http://www.cgdev.org/blog/we-are-ru...ola?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
 

ginnie6

Veteran Member
http://washingtonexaminer.com/cdc-issues-ebola-checklist-now-is-the-time-to-prepare/article/2553396

CDC issues Ebola checklist: 'Now is the time to prepare'


The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, warning hospitals and doctors that “now is the time to prepare,” has issued a six-page Ebola “checklist” to help healthcare workers quickly determine if patients are infected.

While the CDC does not believe that there are new cases of Ebola in the United States, the assumption in the checklist is that it is only a matter of time before the virus hits home.

For example, one part reads: “Encourage healthcare personnel to use a ‘buddy system’ when caring for patients.” Another recommends a process to report cases to top officials:

Plan for regular situational briefs for decision-makers, including:

-- Suspected and confirmed EVD patients who have been identified and reported to public health authorities.

-- Isolation, quarantine and exposure reports.

-- Supplies and logistical challenges.

-- Personnel status, and policy decisions on contingency plans and staffing.

The checklist has been distributed to major hospitals and even little ones, including an urgent center in Leesburg, Va.

“Every hospital should ensure that it can detect a patient with Ebola, protect healthcare workers so they can safely care for the patient, and respond in a coordinated fashion,” warns the CDC.

“While we are not aware of any domestic Ebola Virus Disease cases (other than two American citizens who were medically evacuated to the United States), now is the time to prepare, as it is possible that individuals with EVD in West Africa may travel to the United States, exhibit signs and symptoms of EVD, and present to facilities,” it adds.

Several hospital and medical websites have just begun to post the checklist online.
Paul Bedard, the Washington Examiner's "Washington Secrets" columnist, can be contacted at pbedard@washingtonexaminer.com.
 

SheWoff

Southern by choice
African healthcare laid bare by Ebola epidemic

Two years ago, I had the privilege of visiting Freetown and other parts of Sierra Leone where Amnesty International was training maternal health volunteers to monitor antenatal care. It was evident then that Sierra Leone’s health infrastructure was in a very poor state, undermined by years of war and lack of investment. But today, the outbreak of Ebola has meant that its struggling healthcare system, and others in neighbouring African countries – particularly Liberia and Guinea – have been completely overwhelmed.

The Ebola outbreak is the first in West Africa since the disease was diagnosed in the 1970s and it is the largest ever in terms of people affected. According to the World Health Organization (WHO), the death toll has already surpassed 2,200 and more than 20,000 could be infected before the outbreak is brought under control. While the absolute priority for African governments must clearly be to protect lives, there are growing concerns that attempts to contain the outbreak are having a negative impact on human rights.

Speaking at a crisis African Union meeting this week, AU Commission chair, Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma, cautioned against measures that may have more social and economic impact than the disease itself.

Stigmatisation of victims

“Fighting Ebola must be done in a manner that doesn’t fuel isolation or lead to the stigmatisation of victims, communities and countries,” she said. Indeed, it is not just economic and social rights which could potentially be affected by the measures taken to tackle Ebola, but also rights including guarantees against arbitrary detention and freedom of movement.

There have been reported cases of rejection by families and communities of people who have recovered from the disease and been discharged from hospital.

“The majority of the survivor children in Kenema district are discriminated against and not welcomed back into their communities, even though they no longer pose any risk to the population,” Sylvestre Kallon, from the Future Focus Foundation told me last week.

Kemema district, regarded as the “epicentre” of the outbreak, has been under a state of emergency which has restricted people’s movement and made it difficult for them to earn a living, especially if they live on the outskirts of the city.

In Freetown, food stocks are running low due to the closure of the Guinea border meaning that fresh produce cannot be imported. Food shortages, hoarding and spiralling costs have added a huge burden on people who are already struggling to get by. With medical facilities stretched to breaking point, people with serious ailments such as malaria or diarrhoea are facing an acute challenge to get treated.

The fear and stigma surrounding the disease has also reportedly led some people to hide members of their families who are exhibiting Ebola-like symptoms. Many of the medical staff who have been treating patients have themselves become victims of the deadly virus and it is not surprising to see doctors in Freetown going on strike due to pay and working conditions, and nurses in Liberia striking due to lack of personal protective clothing and equipment.

Right to health

The International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights which Sierra Leone has ratified, requires that states take steps to guarantee the “right to health” including measures for the prevention, treatment and control of epidemics.

For a number of years, Amnesty International has reported on the appalling health situation in Sierra Leone and called on the government to ensure better health service delivery, adequate funding, as well as developing monitoring and accountability mechanisms to enable rights holders to hold the government to account for failures to guarantee their right to health. Yet there has been little evidence of progress.

While Sierra Leone is struggling to guarantee people’s right to healthcare, the international community has a pivotal role as well as international legal obligations to ensure assistance and cooperation, particularly at times of crisis such as this epidemic.

Governments along with their international partners must ensure healthcare for all, especially marginalised groups. International assistance and cooperation must play its part in supporting governments to strengthen these severely strained and crumbling health systems so they can withstand and respond more effectively to such crises in the future.

Containing the current outbreak of Ebola may be the most urgent priority but the real challenge for Sierra Leone and other governments is to take a serious look at its human rights obligations, public policy, and practices on the right to health. Access to timely, acceptable, and affordable healthcare is not just an aspiration for the people of Africa: It is their right. It is time for African governments and the international community to deliver. Short and long term programmes are needed to build health delivery systems capable of providing care to those in need at the best of times, as well as withstanding the strains during the worst of times.

http://livewire.amnesty.org/2014/09/15/african-healthcare-laid-bare-by-ebola-epidemic/
 

Possible Impact

TB Fanatic
MUMBAI: Central government told Bombay high court on Monday that passengers on ships arriving from Western Africa are not allowed to disembark as part of measures to curb Ebola spread.

Centre's advocate Rui Rodrigues informed the court in response to the State government stating that the director of health services, Mumbai has written to the Jawaharlal Nehru Port Trust/Mumbai Port Trust authorities to start screening of crew members of the vessels coming from Ebola-affected countries. A division bench of justice Abhay Oka and justice Girish Kulkarni heard a public interest litigation by activist Ketan Tirodkar questioning the preparedness of the government.

In an affidavit filed in compliance of the high court's September 10 order to provide with 48 hours health screening facilities at Pune and Nagpur airports, the government informed that medical staff has been deployed at Pune and Nagpur , which receives three and six flights in a week but they are not directly from Ebola affected countries. However it pointed out that thermal scanners, which are used for preliminary screening to identify variation of body temperature and are provided at Mumbai international airport, is not available at Pune and Nagpur. It urged for immediate despatch of thermal scanners saying at present only digital thermometers are being used for measure the temperature of passengers.

The judges directed the Centre to reply to State government's affidavit and posted the hearing on September 17.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Ebola-alert-also-at-ports-Centre/articleshow/42543145.cms


^^^ How long (months!) has this been known about now?
So, they use a digital thermometer on the incoming crowd?
"Say ahh", *puts in debarking passenger's mouth*, "next..."
"Say ahh", *wipes thermometer on sleeve, and puts in next person's mouth* , "next..."
 

SheWoff

Southern by choice
#Ebola-- Suspected Ebola case reported in Malaysia

A 24-year-old Zimbabwean student has been placed under observation for Ebola in the eastern Malaysian state of Sarawak, a local official in the health department said on Monday.
The student took ill on Saturday and had been transferred to Sarawak General Hospital isolation ward from a private hospital.

Sarawak Public Health Assistant Minister, Jerip Susil, said the student had no related signs to Ebola except for symptoms of high fever.

He said, “We will know for sure if this is Ebola, once the test results is out within a week.”

According to the report, the student never left the state, but came into contact with other foreign students who recently returned from their home country.

However, the Malaysian Health Ministry confirmed that there were no confirmed Ebola cases in the country.
http://nblo.gs/ZWttV
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, warning hospitals and doctors that “now is the time to prepare,” has issued a six-page Ebola “checklist” to help healthcare workers quickly determine if patients are infected.

Hopefully, the "gown and gloves are enough" CDC is now waking up.
 
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