CORONA Main Coronavirus thread

CaryC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I never heard of a hospital that was fat with cash so they could decide not to spend it. They had higher priorities that used up all their cash.

Seriously? You think hospitable's are in this to help people? No dude, it's all about the money. There are very few "not for profit" hospitals anymore. The NMMC is a "for profit" hospital, and all the doctors and clinics are under orders ORDERS to see so many patients a day, talk to them to get so many "preventative" tests done. Give Flu shots, Pn-nomia shots, Vit. B shots, and just plain ole shots.

That's like saying, College's only want to get their students, to get students loans, for their education. Hahahaha

Since Trump said the US government will cover all costs related to Covid-19 those places are booming and the bill's are being sent to your rich Uncle.

Do remember to differentiate between some doctors and nurses and hospitals. Just like some students and colleges.
 

Troke

On TB every waking moment
Seriously? You think hospitable's are in this to help people? No dude, it's all about the money. There are very few "not for profit" hospitals anymore. The NMMC is a "for profit" hospital, and all the doctors and clinics are under orders ORDERS to see so many patients a day, talk to them to get so many "preventative" tests done. Give Flu shots, Pn-nomia shots, Vit. B shots, and just plain ole shots.

That's like saying, College's only want to get their students, to get students loans, for their education. Hahahaha

Since Trump said the US government will cover all costs related to Covid-19 those places are booming and the bill's are being sent to your rich Uncle.

Do remember to differentiate between some doctors and nurses and hospitals. Just like some students and colleges.
My past experience has been in small town hospitals, most now out of business because apparently they were too stupid to do what profit hospitals are doing. My most recent experience has been with a biggie (Johns Hopkins) and Medicare paid for nearly all of it.
 

Haybails

When In Doubt, Throttle Out!
Thanks @danielboon - you're doing great work for this board by sharing your links, we don't want to miss them . . .

Just a screen capture or a word about what we're going to see when/if we follow the link would be so helpful. Remember, due to digital edits, what you see when you post a blind link might be different that what we see when when/if we follow it.


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xtreme_right

Veteran Member
Its 2:24 am so off to bed. This staying up late eats the morning hours.

God bless and goodnight to all.

Spent time trying to order from Sam's and when I checked out the only item left on the list was cheese, so no order tonight. Hope you are having better luck. Will probably make another trip to Sherman to get the items from Sam's, Kroger's and Albertson's. Will be a long day. 130 mile one way trip. At least fuel prices are below $2.00.

Be careful out there. Remember gloves, mask, googles and hand sanitizer when you go out.

Texican....

Ive heard a few reports that the best time to hit the stores (other than when they first open) is mid morning. The morning rush is over and a lot of stores get deliveries mid morning so your odds are better. And CONGRATULATIONS on the new grand baby!
 

xtreme_right

Veteran Member
And stock has a shelf-life.

Owner uses N95 respirators when he's using the chipper-shredder. He recently broke open a new on his shelf box of N95s and found to his disappointment that the elastics on those masks are now "brittle", break, and won't hold the mask to his face.

"$20 down the tube" he said.

Dobbin
Take off the bad elastic and staple strips of cloth, shoe laces, anything to make them wearable.
 

shane

Has No Life - Lives on TB
When hurricane Rita headed towards Houston, two hours west of them, we here in Gonzales had blue skies.
Shortly though, we and every town between us and Houston were inundated with refugees from Houston who
totally shut down all our towns with stifling congested traffic and, like locusts, totally cleaned out all our grocery
stores, restaurants, fast food joints, gas stations, over filled all our motels, parking lots, etc. It overwhelmed LE,
and was crazy pandemonium with many on edge, and only because it lasted just a couple days was it bearable.

I share the above because I think we'll see similar, but much worse, cause it'll be much longer lasting and at a
time when stores are already struggling with limited inventory and thus much more local impact, from virus in
metro areas driving many to leave out and then overwhelm outer, less populated, areas. We're already seeing
it with NY'ers going to Florida by the tens of thousands, and we should be ready for even many more to come
out from every large metro area, then risking swamping and over running smaller towns within driving range.

Might get to the point that some over run communities in fear of risking collapse might give notice, to preserve
their resources for their residents, that without ID showing local residency, outsiders will be denied passage
going into some counties, cities or towns, and/or not able to gain entry into their grocery stores, hospitals, etc.
Additionally, and this will likely become biggest driver of shunning outsiders, is that locals will know that most
all outsiders from metro areas wanting entry into their communities are likely much higher, than any average
national accepted %, already infected.

Things could get tribal quickly, and maybe should be encouraged & supported, if you live outside metro area.

Panic Early, Beat the Rush!
- Shane
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Peanut

Resident Pit Yorkie :)
has anyone been reading the captions at the bottom of this video? One the other day cautioned against take out food as the virus may be transmitted that way. Just now it said the city is still on lockdown until April 8th. That may explain so little traffic or signs of life.
One of the things scrolling said the Brazilian Govt knew about the virus in Oct 2019!!
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Here it comes...got your card ready? I can just imagine what the "Healthy Eating Plate" several similar articles is going to look like...your choice of tofu or bug burgers?...This is in the UK...

War-time food rationing will likely come into force 'in a matter of weeks' because relying on public to exercise shopping restraint during lockdown 'won't work', academic expert warns
  • Professor Bryce Evans of Liverpool Hope University issued stark warning today
  • Warned government is not taking crisis seriously enough regarding food supply
  • Is calling on authorities to look at lessons learned from the two World Wars
  • Argues we need a clear, government-led rationing system for essential goods
  • Says it's currently a matter of weeks before things start to become real problem
  • Coronavirus symptoms: what are they and should you see a doctor?
By HAYLEY RICHARDSON FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 20:42, 25 March 2020 | UPDATED: 10:20, 26 March 2020


The UK should be braced for food rationing because relying on the public to exercise shopping restraint simply 'won't work', according to an academic expert.
Bryce Evans, associate professor of history and politics at Liverpool Hope University, said we're not at crisis point yet, and urged people not to panic buy.

But he's also calling on authorities to look at the lessons learned from the First and Second World Wars to combat any potential shortages in the current coronavirus crisis.

He warned history proves that urging people not to be selfish or stockpile is futile - and it's unfair to delegate that task to supermarket workers, too.
The UK should be braced for food rationing because relying on the public to exercise shopping restraint simply 'won't work', according to an academic expert. Pictured: empty shelves at a branch of Waitrose in London last week


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The UK should be braced for food rationing because relying on the public to exercise shopping restraint simply 'won't work', according to an academic expert. Pictured: empty shelves at a branch of Waitrose in London last week
Professor Evans added that we could see the formation of a new Ministry of Food to ensure items can be delivered to doors via online shopping and paid for with 'ration coupons'.

And empty school kitchens could even be commandeered to make food en masse, before being delivered via courier, leaning on established supermarket networks.
Environment Secretary pleads to public to stop panic buying


He told FEMAIL: 'There's a risk we're still not taking this crisis seriously enough when it comes to our food supply. There needs to be a big shift in current consumption behaviours, because it's a matter of weeks before things start to become a real problem if we continue in the same vein.

'And I can see rationing on the horizon. Both wars show us that what the government is doing right now - telling people not to panic buy, to voluntarily curtail consumption - just doesn't work, sadly.
Professor Evans said we could see the formation of a new Ministry of Food to ensure items can be delivered to doors via online shopping and paid for with 'ration coupons'. Pictured: empty shelves of beer and cider in Tesco Walkden, north west of Manchester



Professor Evans said we could see the formation of a new Ministry of Food Pto ensure items can be delivered to doors via online shopping and paid for with 'ration coupons'. Pictured: empty shelves of beer and cider in Tesco Walkden, north west of Manchester


'It has to be followed up with a clear, government-led rationing system of essential goods.
'This was previously done in collaboration with retailers and it can be replicated again, accompanied by price controls and greater penalties for the worst racketeers and black marketeers.
Bryce Evans, associate professor of history and politics at Liverpool Hope University



Bryce Evans, associate professor of history and politics at Liverpool Hope University
'Rationing can't be left up to poor old supermarket checkout staff, who have to deal with anger and arguments - the government must step in.
'

The online ration system would also seem likely since we do not want scenes like at the weekend, where hundreds of people descend on a supermarket at the same time, because this increases the risk of transmission greatly.'
Associate Professor Evans, who's written extensively on nutrition and public feeding in times of war, explains how 'established food supply networks for the most needy are already coming under pressure', with food banks closing and donations drying up.

He added: 'The system is under enormous strain and it's going to impact upon the poorest people. If things accelerate as fast as they are doing in Europe, we have a problem.

'Remember that a lot of our food is imported from Europe and beyond. If those networks falter, it has a knock-on effect for us all.'

How supermarkets could revert to online only shopping and policing the aisles to stop panic buying
  • Police: The British Retail Consortium has suggested that retailers could work with the police to protect their staff and customers
  • Shop online: Experts have suggested that stores limit people to shopping online, as the Co-Op, Morrisons and Waitrose hire more delivery drivers
  • WWII Ration cards: Another option is to issue ration cards that get stamped or scanned when you buy items. This would prevent people being able to flout rationing restrictions by simply returning later or going to a different shop on the same day. Dr Andrew Hughes from the ANU College of Business and Economics told Daily Mail Australia: 'We have seen rationing work in Australia recently when supermarkets asked people to show their driving licenses to buy baby formula last year.'
  • Ban on new customers: Ocado has suspended new sign-ups as demand for the online supermarket outstripped its supply ten times.

As the crisis continues, Professor Evans predicts a new Ministry of Food - the type that oversaw rationing in World War II - to oversee a 'national kitchen' food supply system.

He said: 'During both World Wars, we had a Ministry of Food. And you might see the emergence of that again.
'Many schools are now empty. Why not use the empty kitchens in these buildings to cook food, which can then be delivered via courier?

'This was done in wartime through the popular Queen's messenger convoys - vans driven by young women which would drive at high speed and distribute food after bombing raids.

'We could see the UberEats or JustEats model being taken over by the government, to establish an efficient and affordable system of doorstep delivery.

'It's a huge culture shift, and government intervention could represent the end of consumerism as we know it.'

There could also be a shift in the nature of the UK's physical landscape, too - because if food supply networks fail, Britain will have to increase farming production.

Professor Evans said: 'In the UK, we've got six million hectares of land which could be used to produce fruit and veg. But only 168,000 hectares are actually being used for that purpose.

'You'd have to have a scheme of compulsory purchase or requisition to enable us to use this land to produce more food.

'As the coronavirus crisis gets worse over the coming months, we need to be innovative. And the best blueprint for this comes from the wars - particularly the Land Army and Meals on Wheels campaigns.'

As a silver lining to the bleak outlook, Professor Bryce says government-led rationing could actually help to redress the balance when it comes to the gulf in health and nutrition between the poor and the rich.
The graphic above shows the break down of what Britons spent their cash on in the supermarkets



The graphic above shows the break down of what Britons spent their cash on in the supermarkets
Former Waitrose boss backs supermarket item limits on customers



He also suggested a celebrity-driven propaganda campaign could make sure any rationing project doesn't become 'drab and statist'. Instead, food advice would be issued by trusted retail figureheads as well as celebrity chefs.

But the academic has also called on courts to issue the very toughest fines - and even prison sentences - for the worst black market racketeering offenders.

He added: 'In a time of crisis, the black market is not the preserve of lovable rogues - it's deadly serious.

'And I'd suggest prison sentences and hefty fines are appropriate for those found guilty of the most extreme cases of profiteering from coronavirus.

'Again, there's a historical precedent here for the need to be strict. Eventually, you have to act. You can't rely on social shaming to hurt these individuals.'

A government spokesperson told FEMAIL: 'We will do whatever it takes to ensure people have the food and supplies they need. Retailers are continuing to monitor their supply chains and taking all the necessary steps to ensure consumers have the food and supplies they need.

'Supermarkets are already taking action to limit the supply of certain items to make sure shelves are stocked and it is crucial we all respect and adhere to these decisions.'

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Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Here's what I don't get about those cameras....the Chinese have such a tight lockdown on all social media/news type things-how are these broadcasting? You would think the Chinese would NOT want to rest of the world to continue seeing empty streets.


They have. You can no longer see the cams that were showing the two hastily-built hospitals. I used to watch the workers in their bright yellow PPE suits pushing MANY large yellow rolling carts of 'something' out of the hospitals every day and rolling them up to one place. Hospital waste for an incinerator? I don't know.

But those two cameras have been turned off now.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city

Louisiana Church Continues Large Services Despite COVID-19 Safety Orders From Governor
By Frank CampDailyWire.com
Parishioners of the Lakewood Church led by Pastor Joel Osteen pray together during a service at the church as the city starts the process of rebuilding after severe flooding during Hurricane and Tropical Storm Harvey on September 3, 2017 in Houston, Texas.
Photo by Joe Raedle/Getty Images

On Sunday, Louisiana Governor John Bel Edwards issued a “Stay at Home” order prohibiting gatherings of more than ten people in an effort to curb the spread of COVID-19.

This order comes on the heels of two previous orders – one from March 13 that limited gatherings to 250 people or fewer, and one from March 16 that limited gatherings to 50 people or fewer.

Despite the orders from the governor, a church in Louisiana has continued to hold large services. On March 17, Life Tabernacle Church in Central, Louisiana, gathered for worship with more than 300 in attendance, according to Pastor Tony Spell.

Video footage of the Tuesday service posted on Facebook shows dozens of parishioners gathering near the stage, hugging and laying hands on each other. None appear to be wearing face masks or gloves.

During the service, Spell had ushers pass out “anointed clothes” to those in attendance, which he said would bring “healing virtue” and “the miraculous power of the Holy Ghost” with them.

A video posted to Facebook on March 17 shows Spell exiting the church and speaking briefly with a police officer outside. Although the audio of the exchange is too poor to understand, Spell spoke directly to the camera immediately after.

Spell told the cameraman:

Spell was asked by the man running the camera if he could be arrested. The pastor replied that he didn’t know, but added, “We’re taking persecution from friends, family, threat of lawsuits, threat of jail – nothing is gonna deter us from our religious conviction of worshipping and assembling and gathering.”

Despite what Spell claims the police officer told him, according to NBC affiliate WAFB, Louisiana National Guard Colonel Ed Bush said that the organization wouldn’t be enforcing gathering prohibitions. “The National Guard has not been tasked with enforcing any of the curfew, social distancing or meeting requirements as set by the governor,” Bush stated.

Additionally, Central Police Department Chief Roger Corcoran told CNN: “That was never told to the pastor by my officer.”

In a YouTube message on Thursday, Spell spoke about the biblical story of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego from the book of Daniel, then stated that the church wouldn’t be “in defiance of any codes, of any government mandates.”

Spell added that the buses bringing people to services would have no more than 50 people, and that the busses would be disinfected.

On Sunday, Life Tabernacle Church held services outside under tents. In a video posted to Facebook, a large number of parishioners can be seen worshiping, with only a few wearing basic surgical masks. Proper social distancing was not occurring.

Spell said COVID-19 doesn’t “concern” him, according to WAFB. “The virus, we believe, is politically motivated. We hold our religious rights dear and we are going to assemble no matter what someone says,” Spell reportedly stated.
WAFB notes that “East Baton Rouge Parish District Attorney Hillar Moore says those violating the governor’s proclamation could face prosecution as a last resort.”

In response to the continuation of the church’s large services, a petition has been launched to have Spell prosecuted for “reckless endangerment.” More than 6,000 people have signed.

As of Saturday, East Baton Rouge, Louisiana, has seen 75 confirmed cases of COVID-19, and three deaths, according to data from the Johns Hopkins Center for Systems Science and Engineering (CSSE) Global Cases map. The virus has infected more than 66,000 Americans, leading to 947 deaths.

The Daily Wire reached out to Central Police and Pastor Tony Spell for comment, but as of publication, we have not received a reply from either.
Governor Edwards’ March 22 order reads in part:



Governor Edwards’ previously issued order prohibiting public gatherings of more than 250 people included worship services.

When asked about the limit during a press conference, Edwards said: “This prohibition does apply to churches and houses of worship with congregations that exceed 250 in a single service. However, churches and places of worship can engage in multiple services and bring the number of people in them below 250.”
The governor explained his decision to include churches in the prohibition:

On March 16, when Governor Edwards announced further limitations on public gatherings to fewer than 50 people, he stated in part: “These limitations were difficult to make, but they are necessary to slow the spread of COVID-19, protect the health of Louisianans, and flatten the curve.”

And the Devil taketh Him and setteth Him on the highest pinnacle of the Temple, and saith to Him, "Cast yourself down from here! For it is written, 'He shall give His angels charge over these, to keep thee in all thy ways...in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest ye dash thy foot against a stone."

Jesus answered him, "Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God."
 

homepark

Resist
I gave a box of masks and some hand sanitzer to a friend who works in the local hospital. All for want of a 75 cent mask that the hospital did not have enough of. Yeah, someone probably got promoted on their money saving scheme. What a said day. That and a photo of a another friends 3yr old daughter wearing a mask brought tears to my eyes. Some of this was avoidable with thinking ahead, the latter a reflection of the times we are now in. Lord have mercy.
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
Heard this from a nurse on FOX NEWS:

How bad is it? "STAY AT HOME unless you want to intubated by a Gynecologist (I took that to mean ...Medical people drafted into this fight who are NOT the best at what they are being called to do. In other words it will be more than normally painful and difficult to help you survive)


UNDERSTAND NOW? Is that enough "incentive" to remember to STAY AT HOME and wash your hands and stay away from other people?
 

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
And the Devil taketh Him and setteth Him on the highest pinnacle of the Temple, and saith to Him, "Cast yourself down from here! For it is written, 'He shall give His angels charge over these, to keep thee in all thy ways...in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest ye dash thy foot against a stone."

Jesus answered him, "Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God."

Game, set, match. Faith is one thing, ignoring the gift from God that is between the ears is something else entirely.
 

Haybails

When In Doubt, Throttle Out!
They have. You can no longer see the cams that were showing the two hastily-built hospitals. I used to watch the workers in their bright yellow PPE suits pushing MANY large yellow rolling carts of 'something' out of the hospitals every day and rolling them up to one place. Hospital waste for an incinerator? I don't know.

But those two cameras have been turned off now.
I still see it:
WuhanHospital-Night--3-26-2020smaller.png
Just watched someone roll a yellow can out the back door.

HB
 

Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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Wisconsin DATCP sends cease and desist letters to 16 Milwaukee-area companies over price gouging

Posted 10:41 am, March 25, 2020, by Jenna Sachs, Updated at 05:56PM, March 25, 2020

MILWAUKEE -- The Department of Agriculture, Trade and Consumer Protection (DATCP) on Tuesday, March 24 sent cease and desist letters to Wisconsin businesses accused of price gouging on essentials like toilet paper, bleach and bottled water amid the coronavirus pandemic.

According to a press release from the DATCP, following dozens of complaints and thorough price checking at over 100 stores across Wisconsin, the agency issued cease and desist letters to 16 companies suspected of raising prices unlawfully during this period of economic disruption:
  • Ace Hardware Delavan: Chlorox bleach/toilet paper
  • Asian International Market Milwaukee: Rice
  • Dollar Tree Marinette: Toilet paper
  • El Rey Foodmart Milwaukee: Rice, bleach, water
  • El Rey Foodmart Milwaukee: Limes
  • El Rey Foodmart Milwaukee: Bleach
  • Matrangas Racine: Bottled Water
  • Pacific Produce Oak Creek: Rice
  • Restaurant Depot Milwaukee: Toilet paper, cookies
  • Walgreens Cudahy: Toilet paper
  • Walgreens Waukesha: Lysol spray
  • Wal-Mart Milwaukee: Toilet paper
  • Wal-Mart Rhinelander: Milk
  • C&S Supermarket Milwaukee: Rice
  • Cermak Milwaukee: Pinto beans
  • Cermak Milwaukee: Watermelon
  • Grainger Online: Surgical masks
  • Marketplace Foods St. Croix Falls: Toilet paper
  • Menards West Milwaukee: Hand cleaner
  • Menards Burlington: Lysol wipes
  • Menards Online: N95 masks
  • Point Market Stevens Point: Rice
One such company, N95Sales.com, which engaged in suspected price gouging on N95 masks, a critical item for front-line health care workers that is in short supply in Wisconsin, officials said. The site no longer exists.

"It appeared on its face that the price inflation was excessive and a violation of the law," said Lara Sutherlin, director of the Wisconsin DATCP.

In Executive Order #72, Governor Evers declared a public health emergency in the State of Wisconsin. He also declared that Wisconsin is experiencing a period of abnormal economic disruption because of COVID-19. This declaration authorizes DATCP to enforce Wisconsin’s price gouging law until the emergency has ended. This declaration applies to the entire state and applies to any consumer good or service being sold at wholesale or retail.

"Wholesalers and retailers, in general, are not price gouging Wisconsin residents," said Sutherlin. "In general, people are trying to comply with the law."

Sutherlin said the department received 90 complaints about retailer prices since March 12, when it became illegal to sell items at prices 15% higher than pre-emergency prices.

"The items we're seeing are cleaning supplies, masks, hand sanitizers, toilet paper, that kind of thing," said Sutherlin.

Businesses have 10 days to respond and explain why prices went up -- possibly a legitimate reason.

"Wholesalers and retailers are entitled to raise their prices if the cost of the business is going up with respect to that item," said Sutherlin.

more,

 

Jubilee on Earth

Veteran Member
St. Louis' first death from COVID-19 was a Red Cross employee; two co-workers also infected - 31 years old with no underlying health conditions

UPDATED at 2:30 p.m. Wednesday with the funeral of the Red Cross worker, Jazmond Dixon, being held Tuesday.

ST. LOUIS — A woman in her 30s who was the city’s first death from COVID-19 was an employee of the American Red Cross in St. Louis, where two other co-workers have also been infected with the virus.

The woman who died, identified by family as Jazmond Dixon, 31, was a biomedical services employee who worked at the Lindell Boulevard location of the Red Cross in St. Louis.

One other employee who worked in the same building also tested positive for the virus, and another staff member is presumed to be positive through a medical assessment but has not been tested, according to a statement Tuesday from the American Red Cross Missouri-Arkansas Region.

“None of these individuals came into contact with donors or other members of the public as part of their daily job duties,” the statement said.

The Red Cross ordered a deep cleaning of the building on Lindell Avenue to prevent any further spread of the virus, according to the statement.

“We want to emphasize that donating blood is a safe process and that Red Cross staff already adhere to the highest standards of safety and infection control,” the statement said.

The Red Cross had previously started asking all of those at blood donation centers — both staff and donors — to use hand sanitizer before entering a blood drive, along with other safety measures.

“The need for blood is constant and will continue throughout this outbreak,” the statement said. “Volunteer donors are the only source of blood for those in need.”

Her cousin, Belafae Johnson Jr., told the Post-Dispatch that Dixon went to a St. Louis urgent care facility on March 17 with flu-like symptoms. Staff there told her to go to a hospital emergency room, where she was admitted, he said.

Dixon was put on a ventilator on March 19 because her oxygen levels had dropped, and the next day her test results came back positive for COVID-19, Johnson said. She died two days later.

Johnson said the family knew of no underlying health issues affecting Dixon.

He described his cousin as loyal to her family and “the life of the party.” She also helped take care of her mother, Johnson said.

Dixon's funeral was Tuesday and her family said they were unable to have the big service that she deserved because of social distancing limitations to prevent further spread of the coronavirus.
 

mzkitty

I give up.
St. Louis' first death from COVID-19 was a Red Cross employee; two co-workers also infected - 31 years old with no underlying health conditions

UPDATED at 2:30 p.m. Wednesday with the funeral of the Red Cross worker, Jazmond Dixon, being held Tuesday.

ST. LOUIS — A woman in her 30s who was the city’s first death from COVID-19 was an employee of the American Red Cross in St. Louis, where two other co-workers have also been infected with the virus.

The woman who died, identified by family as Jazmond Dixon, 31, was a biomedical services employee who worked at the Lindell Boulevard location of the Red Cross in St. Louis.

One other employee who worked in the same building also tested positive for the virus, and another staff member is presumed to be positive through a medical assessment but has not been tested, according to a statement Tuesday from the American Red Cross Missouri-Arkansas Region.

“None of these individuals came into contact with donors or other members of the public as part of their daily job duties,” the statement said.

The Red Cross ordered a deep cleaning of the building on Lindell Avenue to prevent any further spread of the virus, according to the statement.

“We want to emphasize that donating blood is a safe process and that Red Cross staff already adhere to the highest standards of safety and infection control,” the statement said.

The Red Cross had previously started asking all of those at blood donation centers — both staff and donors — to use hand sanitizer before entering a blood drive, along with other safety measures.

“The need for blood is constant and will continue throughout this outbreak,” the statement said. “Volunteer donors are the only source of blood for those in need.”

Her cousin, Belafae Johnson Jr., told the Post-Dispatch that Dixon went to a St. Louis urgent care facility on March 17 with flu-like symptoms. Staff there told her to go to a hospital emergency room, where she was admitted, he said.

Dixon was put on a ventilator on March 19 because her oxygen levels had dropped, and the next day her test results came back positive for COVID-19, Johnson said. She died two days later.

Johnson said the family knew of no underlying health issues affecting Dixon.

He described his cousin as loyal to her family and “the life of the party.” She also helped take care of her mother, Johnson said.

Dixon's funeral was Tuesday and her family said they were unable to have the big service that she deserved because of social distancing limitations to prevent further spread of the coronavirus.

A LOT of black people have asthma, Jazmond might have too. It's too bad. I know, they said there were no underlying conditions, but..........

:(
 

Krayola

Veteran Member

India BANS export of anti-malaria drug touted by Trump as potential Covid-19 cure
25 Mar, 2020 09:03 / Updated 1 day ago
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India BANS export of anti-malaria drug touted by Trump as potential Covid-19 cure


A policeman stands guard next to barricades during 21-day nationwide lockdown to limit the spreading of coronavirus disease (COVID-19), in New Delhi, India, March 25, 2020. © REUTERS/Danish Siddiqui

New Delhi has outlawed the export of hydroxychloroquine, an anti-malarial drug that some believe to be effective in treating coronavirus, save for certain exceptions. The drug has been talked up by US President Donald Trump.
The guidance for Indian companies to halt, without delay, the export of the medicine and its components came from the Indian Ministry of Commerce and Industry late Tuesday. The export ban appears to be a response to both a national and a global spike in demand for the drugs, after anecdotal evidence suggested they might be effective at fighting Covid-19, though the evidence is far from conclusive.

“The export of Hydroxychloroquine and formulations made from Hydroxychloroquine... is prohibited with immediate effect,” the ministry said.
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While the export of the drug has been halted with no end date in sight, deals that were already in progress when the notice was issued will be allowed to proceed.

Another exception is being made for humanitarian shipments that are, however, subject to approval by the Indian External Affairs Ministry and will be greenlit on a case-by-case basis.

The drugs in question, hydroxychloroquine as well as chloroquine, have long proven their effectiveness in treating malaria and other conditions.

However, both have been back in the news after Trump cited a novel survey indicating they can be effective in alleviating Covid-19 symptoms. While clinical trials of the drugs in the US have just started, Trump has drawn a huge backlash for touting “off-label” use of the medication as a possible breakthrough in treating the coronavirus.

India, which has so far managed to contain the outbreak with “only” 519 confirmed cases as opposed to a staggering 55,225 in the US, has rallied behind the drug. The Indian Council for Medical Research (ICMR) recommended prescribing it as preventive medication to those who come into contact with coronavirus patients.

“Hydroxy-chloroquine is found to be effective against coronavirus in laboratory studies and in-vivo studies,” the council, which leads the national Covid-19 task force, stated in its recent advisory, indicating that the country’s healthcare system may be bracing for an impending spike in cases.

However, in order to stop the spread of the virus, India is currently on a 21-day nationwide lockdown, which may stave off a major health crisis for the time being.
I posted that article because I knew that India was banning exports of the drug. I decided to search online to see if India was the only source and found the article (in my post that you quoted) stating that these other companies (none based in India) are ramping up production, so I think that is good news.
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
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Better stream.
ou want, this guy gives an informative press conference,
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He has come to understand that VENTILATORS are machines that BREATHE FOR YOU, and part of the reason he and we are short of ventilators is that people are being kept on them too long, people who have little or no chance of recovering, who should have been allowed to die after they lost the ability to breathe, after having a reasonable chance of recovering their ability to breathe on their own after a few days "rest" on the ventilator. He seems calmer about it now.

IMO- How many times do you want to die? Once you "pass", I have read, most all don't want to come back unless they have a compelling duty or need to take care of here.
 

Jubilee on Earth

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They obviously mean percentage/per capita here...

Coronavirus spreading faster in Detroit than nearly anywhere in United States

DETROIT — The coronavirus pandemic is ravaging the poorest big city in the nation, prompting concerns about whether a municipality still recovering from bankruptcy can provide services to its most vulnerable residents.

Michigan’s surging infection rates are propelled by a startling number of cases in Detroit, which has a per capita infection rate that is among the nation’s highest, exceeded only by New York and its surrounding counties and New Orleans.

Detroit’s challenges are particularly acute because 1 in 3 residents are impoverished and have high rates of diabetes and other ailments that increase the severity of the virus.

As of Wednesday, 12 of the state’s 43 deaths were Detroit residents, while the pandemic has quarantined nearly 300 city police officers and firefighters and led to a one-day stoppage of a public transit system.

The city is the “epicenter” of Michigan infection because of its vulnerable populations, and it’s “scary” how fast it is spreading, said Dr. Teena Chopra, an infectious disease expert at Detroit Medical Center.

Nearly a third of Michigan’s cases, 705 of 2,295 as of Wednesday, are from Detroit, even though the city has less than 10 percent of the state’s population.

“It’s been real scary,” said Tammara Howard, a resident of the city’s east side who is CEO and founder of a nonprofit known as What About Us, Inc.

The group is a hub for neighborhood gatherings, and Howard said many still underestimate the seriousness of the virus, despite Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s order that residents stay at home until at least April 13.

“They knock on the door, and you don't want to be rude, but the virus is out there,” said Howard, who has high blood pressure and diabetes.

On Wednesday, Mayor Mike Duggan announced the city is ramping up testing and hopes to provide them to 400 people a day, six days a week for the next six weeks.

“We haven’t hit the peak,” said Duggan, who added that “four people connected to me have died in the past 48 hours.”

“The idea that you would just go on with life and survival of the fittest, that is not what this country is about,” he said.

‘Rapid acceleration’
Detroit’s coronavirus rate, 83 cases per 100,000 residents as of earlier this week, is nearly five times the statewide rate and more than double the next highest rate, Oakland County. Nationwide, Wayne County, including Detroit, has the 13th highest per capita rate. Oakland County is 25th.

“We’re on the rapid acceleration of the growth curve,” Dr. Betty Chu, associate chief clinical officer at Henry Ford Health System, said on Wednesday.

Dr. Marcus Zervos, a specialist in infectious diseases at Henry Ford, is working with Detroit health officials and said Michigan “has done a better job of testing than other states.”

“It’s good that we have higher numbers,” Zervos said. “It’s important. If we know who’s positive, we can implement control measures.”

Chopra, the Detroit Medical Center doctor, sad Detroiters are vulnerable because so many have underlying health conditions. Cases that in other areas are mild may instead hospitalize Detroiters or worse, she said.

Dr. Abdul El-Sayed, the city’s former health director, said city and state officials have “done their best given the circumstances.”

“The city is full of people who are poor and marginalized. It’s the densest part of Michigan, and Detroiters in general are less healthy,” said El-Sayed, who ran against Whitmer for governor in 2018.

When Duggan appointed him to run the health department in 2015, it had five staffers. Today, there are 110, but about a third of them focus on animal control, according to the city’s budget.

Overall, Michigan ranks near the bottom of the nation, 43rd, on public health funding, according to America’s Health Rankings, an annual report by United Health Foundation, a Minnesota-based nonprofit.“This is what happens when you create a system built on austerity,” El-Sayed said.

“Folks are working really hard now. But they’re working from their back foot. Catching up amid a pandemic is not how you want to do it.”

Help is ‘not enough’
Amid the crisis, Detroit is ramping up efforts to provide essentials. Three of Detroit’s 11 recreation centers, which are otherwise closed until at least April 13, are repurposed to provide breakfast and lunch for children on weekdays.

“That’s helping to alleviate some of the stress of being able to have the children inside your homes fed,” said Jeremy Thomas, communications and marketing manager for the city’s parks and recreation division.

Posted hours are 8:30 a.m. to 1:30 p.m., but Farwell Recreation Center on the east side usually runs out of its 1,200 meals by 11 a.m., said staffer Terence Mercer.

“It’s not enough,” said a staffer outside the Adams Butzel Recreation Center on the west side who wasn’t able to share his name. Food at Butzel was gone by noon on a Tuesday, but “people are still coming.”

In one case, a woman said she had a household with 20 children, which was “hard to believe,” Mercer said. But when staffers drove the food over to her place, the house indeed looked full of kids.

More recreation centers will be deployed for food assistance next week, the city said, picking up from the Detroit public school system as it pares down its food delivery system from 58 to 17 locations.
 

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Wisconsin DATCP sends cease and desist letters to 16 Milwaukee-area companies over price gouging

Posted 10:41 am, March 25, 2020, by Jenna Sachs, Updated at 05:56PM, March 25, 2020

MILWAUKEE -- The Department of Agriculture, Trade and Consumer Protection (DATCP) on Tuesday, March 24 sent cease and desist letters to Wisconsin businesses accused of price gouging on essentials like toilet paper, bleach and bottled water amid the coronavirus pandemic.

According to a press release from the DATCP, following dozens of complaints and thorough price checking at over 100 stores across Wisconsin, the agency issued cease and desist letters to 16 companies suspected of raising prices unlawfully during this period of economic disruption:
  • Ace Hardware Delavan: Chlorox bleach/toilet paper
  • Asian International Market Milwaukee: Rice
  • Dollar Tree Marinette: Toilet paper
  • El Rey Foodmart Milwaukee: Rice, bleach, water
  • El Rey Foodmart Milwaukee: Limes
  • El Rey Foodmart Milwaukee: Bleach
  • Matrangas Racine: Bottled Water
  • Pacific Produce Oak Creek: Rice
  • Restaurant Depot Milwaukee: Toilet paper, cookies
  • Walgreens Cudahy: Toilet paper
  • Walgreens Waukesha: Lysol spray
  • Wal-Mart Milwaukee: Toilet paper
  • Wal-Mart Rhinelander: Milk
  • C&S Supermarket Milwaukee: Rice
  • Cermak Milwaukee: Pinto beans
  • Cermak Milwaukee: Watermelon
  • Grainger Online: Surgical masks
  • Marketplace Foods St. Croix Falls: Toilet paper
  • Menards West Milwaukee: Hand cleaner
  • Menards Burlington: Lysol wipes
  • Menards Online: N95 masks
  • Point Market Stevens Point: Rice
One such company, N95Sales.com, which engaged in suspected price gouging on N95 masks, a critical item for front-line health care workers that is in short supply in Wisconsin, officials said. The site no longer exists.

"It appeared on its face that the price inflation was excessive and a violation of the law," said Lara Sutherlin, director of the Wisconsin DATCP.

In Executive Order #72, Governor Evers declared a public health emergency in the State of Wisconsin. He also declared that Wisconsin is experiencing a period of abnormal economic disruption because of COVID-19. This declaration authorizes DATCP to enforce Wisconsin’s price gouging law until the emergency has ended. This declaration applies to the entire state and applies to any consumer good or service being sold at wholesale or retail.

"Wholesalers and retailers, in general, are not price gouging Wisconsin residents," said Sutherlin. "In general, people are trying to comply with the law."

Sutherlin said the department received 90 complaints about retailer prices since March 12, when it became illegal to sell items at prices 15% higher than pre-emergency prices.

"The items we're seeing are cleaning supplies, masks, hand sanitizers, toilet paper, that kind of thing," said Sutherlin.

Businesses have 10 days to respond and explain why prices went up -- possibly a legitimate reason.

"Wholesalers and retailers are entitled to raise their prices if the cost of the business is going up with respect to that item," said Sutherlin.

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Completely wrong-headed! "Price gouging" is nothing more or less than free market economics at work. Highly desired items go up in price. No one is forced to buy the products at gun point. The so-called black market - which is really the free market - generally makes products available (at a price) that people can't get anywhere else.

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He has come to understand that VENTILATORS are machines that BREATHE FOR YOU, and part of the reason he and we are short of ventilators is that people are being kept on them too long, people who have little or no chance of recovering, who should have been allowed to die after a reasonable chance of recovering their ability to breathe on their own after a "rest" on the ventilator. He seems calmer about it now.

IMO- How many times do you want to die? Once you "pass", I have read, most all don't want to come back unless they have a compelling duty or need to take care of here.

Keeping people on a vent for 30 days seems just wrong.

When I check out the daily stats I look at the serious critical, those numbers are a reasonable fatality indicator.

Italy as of yesterday - 3,489
Spain - 3,166
France - 2,827
USA - 1,455

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Rebel_Yell

Senior Member
My past experience has been in small town hospitals, most now out of business because apparently they were too stupid to do what profit hospitals are doing. My most recent experience has been with a biggie (Johns Hopkins) and Medicare paid for nearly all of it.

Look at Banner Health, a group of non-profit hospitals based in Phoenix, AZ. The CEO received over $25 Million in compensation in 2017.
 

poppy

Veteran Member
Here's what I don't get about those cameras....the Chinese have such a tight lockdown on all social media/news type things-how are these broadcasting? You would think the Chinese would NOT want to rest of the world to continue seeing empty streets.

It is probably good publicity for them. No one can accuse them of being lax on the shutdown like they are in some places here. I look at those cams occasionally and once in a while you see one of the drone monitoring cars on the street.
 

poppy

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Keeping people on a vent for 30 days seems just wrong.

When I check out the daily stats I look at the serious critical, those numbers are a reasonable fatality indicator.

Italy as of yesterday - 3,489
Spain - 3,166
France - 2,827
USA - 1,455

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Someone on tv said serious and critical are 2 different classes but for some reason they lump them together. The woman said people classed as serious would typically only need oxygen and close monitoring but those critical would need a ventilator.
 

1911user

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Health officials: COVID-19 cases jump to 248, 7 deaths in Oklahoma

Health officials: COVID-19 cases jump to 248, 7 deaths in Oklahoma

by: KFOR-TV and K. Querry
Posted: Mar 26, 2020 / 11:20 AM CDT / Updated: Mar 26, 2020 / 11:21 AM CDT

OKLAHOMA CITY (KFOR) – As faith leaders prepare for a ‘statewide day of prayer,’ Oklahoma health officials say the novel coronavirus is continuing to spread across the state.

On Thursday morning, data from the Oklahoma State Department of Health shows that the state currently has 248 confirmed cases of COVID-19.

The numbers are a 50% spike from Wednesday’s confirmed cases.

The patients are in the following counties:
  • Adair – 2
  • Bryan -1
  • Canadian – 6
  • Carter- 1
  • Cleveland – 39
  • Comanche – 3
  • Craig- 1
  • Creek – 10
  • Custer – 3
  • Delaware- 1
  • Garvin – 2
  • Grady- 2
  • Jackson -1
  • Kay – 11
  • Lincoln – 1
  • Logan-3
  • Mayes- 2
  • McClain -2
  • Muskogee -4
  • Noble -2
  • Oklahoma – 73
  • Okmulgee- 2
  • Osage – 3
  • Ottawa- 1
  • Pawnee – 10
  • Payne -5
  • Pontotoc – 1
  • Pottawatomie – 2
  • Sequoyah – 1
  • Stephens – 1
  • Tulsa – 41
  • Wagoner – 6
  • Washington – 5.
So far, officials say seven Oklahoma patients have died and 86 others have been hospitalized because of the virus.
Officials say the latest deaths occurred in Cleveland County. The patients included a man in his 60s and a woman in her 90s.

So far, deaths have occurred in Cleveland, Oklahoma, Pawnee and Tulsa counties.
According to health department data, the patients range in age from less than 1-year-old to 95-years-old. Four of the patients are children.

In all, 149 of the confirmed cases are 50-years-old or older. (That's about 60%)


However, health officials say there is a high incidence of cases in the 18 to 49-year-old age group. People of all age groups are asked to stay home and practice social distancing.

State officials urge Oklahomans to stay away from ill patients and to frequently wash their hands. Also, avoid touching your eyes, nose, and mouth.
At this point, Americans are urged to practice ‘social distancing’ by staying in their homes as much as possible and not going out into a crowd.

The virus is mainly spread from person-to-person, and symptoms usually appear two to 14 days after exposure. Officials stress that the most common symptoms are fever, cough, and shortness of breath.

If you do become sick, you are asked to stay away from others. If you have been in an area where the coronavirus is known to be spreading or been around a COVID-19 patient and develop symptoms, you are asked to call your doctor ahead of time and warn them that you might have been exposed to the virus. That way, experts say, they have the ability to take extra precautions to protect staff and other patients.

The novel coronavirus was first detected in China late last year and has since spread to locations across the globe, including the United States.
While the full extent of COVID-19 is not known yet, reported illnesses have ranged from extremely mild to severe, some resulting in death. Officials say that 80 to 85 percent of cases of COVID-19 have been mild, similar to a cold or the flu.
Older people and those with underlying health conditions like heart disease, lung disease, and diabetes are at a greater risk for a serious case.
 

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Good news, everyone!

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Bahrain, Belgium Report COVID-19 Treatment Touted By Trump Is Working For Patients

Authored by Christine Dolan via JustTheNews.com,

Bahrain and Belgium report their hospitals are successfully treating coronavirus patients with the anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine touted by President Trump as a possible breakthrough in the pandemic.

The Kingdom of Bahrain's Supreme Council of Health chairman said his country was among the first to use the drug and that its impact has been "profound," according to the Bahrain News Agency.


Dr. Shaikh Mohamed, who leads the National Taskforce for Combating COVID-19, was also quoted by the news agency as saying hydroxychloroquine was administered according to the same regimens as those used in China and South Korea.

The first COVID-19 case in Bahrain was reported on Feb. 21, and hydroxychloroquine was first administered to patients showing virus symptoms on Feb. 26.

Bahrain has 419 deaths as a result of the virus, behind Croatia with 442 deaths worldwide, according to the Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Research Center.

Hydroxychloroquine is used to prevent and treat malaria and is administered to patients with rheumatoid arthritis or lupus.


Meanwhile in Europe, another U.S. ally, Brussels, is reporting similar early success with the same drug and is taking steps to ensure its availability for the sickest coronavirus patients.

“Using the limited stocks of these medicines for unnecessary or unjustified preventive treatments jeopardizes the availability of these medicines for patients who need them: chronic patients and hospital patients seriously affected by Covid-19,” Belgium's Federal Agency for Medicines and Health Products said this week.
Belgium, like the United States, has begun a longer-term clinical trial on the efficacy of using Hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19 patients.
 
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