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[Netherlands] The Covid Vaccine Pass Slippery Slope

The Dutch must now show their papers to live a normal life; it will not stop with Covid.
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SEPTEMBER 24, 2021
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EVA VLAARDINGERBROEK

Beginning tomorrow, September 25, everyone in the Netherlands above the age of 13 will need a “Digital Covid Certificate” in order to be allowed into restaurants, bars, theaters, cinemas, and concert halls. Basically, the things that make life enjoyable for most people, will be limited to those who are in possession of a Q.R. code that indicates they are either vaccinated, tested, or have recovered from Covid-19 within the past 160 days.

What is interesting—and, in my view, incredibly telling—about the Dutch situation in particular is that a whopping 85 percent of the Dutch population is currently already fully vaccinated.

More than a year and a half into the Covid-crisis, it is estimated that 95 percent of the population has antibodies, and currently only 200 people are in the ICU. Yet it is at this very moment that our government decides to introduce the most far-reaching and invasive measure the Dutch have seen to date. This is only the beginning.

Apparently, the last 15 percent of the Dutch population needs to be jabbed—whatever it takes.

The ones who, for whatever reason, choose not to be vaccinated are either doomed to the social life of a hermit or have to travel, sometimes quite far, to a certified test location to get a Q-tip shoved up their noses every single day. That is, if they want to ‘’earn back’’ their right to partake in everyday activities. So even though people are not yet physically forced to be vaccinated, what the government is doing now is something that can only be called coercion.

Since there is no official or legal end-date tied to the enforcement of the Covid pass, there is no reason to believe that the Q.R.-society that we’re turning into won’t become more restrictive, let alone that it will disappear. Just take a look at other European countries, like France, Germany, and Italy. I went to Germany recently, where I experienced first-hand what it felt like to be denied entry to a restaurant for being unvaccinated; the negative test results I had on me didn’t suffice. This will undoubtedly become the case at some point in Holland as well.

Although highly inconvenient and time consuming, testing is currently still an option in the Netherlands and it is still “free” (i.e., paid for by taxpayers’ money). But not for long. The Dutch government has already announced that, sooner rather than later, people will have to start paying for their own tests, making it impossible for most people, especially children and people with low or no income, to do it on a regular basis. It is also a given that the Covid pass won’t remain only used for “non-essential social and cultural facilities.” The Dutch government is currently looking for legal pathways to enforce vaccine passes in the workplace and for health care facilities, as is already the case in countries like France and Italy. As a result of this, many Italians who still refuse to get vaccinated are forced to take unpaid leave; it is a true Kafkaesque nightmare.

Legally, the enforcement of these Covid passes and the far-reaching consequences that they already have clearly form a grave breach of constitutional rights and civil liberties such as bodily integrity, the non-discrimination principle, and freedom of movement. It is often argued that these breaches do not technically form a legal ‘’violation’’ of our constitutional rights, because the breach is justified in view of public health. In my opinion, however, this is simply wrong.

First of all, if this line of argumentation would carelessly be accepted, any constitutional right could be set aside when the definition of a “justification” such as public health is stretched out far enough. This is something most people, especially legal scholars, are usually very wary of.

Due to fear, behavioral manipulation, and a general fatigue when it comes to the Covid measures (‘’I just want my freedom back’’), a substantial group of people seem to accept or even want vaccine passports. In other words, people accept this drastic measure for all the wrong reasons.

Let’s start with fear. The Dutch government insisted on classifying the much less dangerous Covid-19 as a so called ‘’A-label disease’’—the same category as Ebola—as this provided them with a legal basis for far-reaching measures like lockdowns, curfews, and now the Covid pass systems. No wonder the government has often been accused of instrumentalizing the virus to enlarge its own legal competences and powers. After all, to most people the virus is not life-threatening at all, especially not to young people, who make up a very large part of the 15 percent of the Dutch population that is not vaccinated. Although of course some people can get very ill from Covid, the mortality rates are nowhere near as high as in the case of a virus like Ebola, which has a mortality rate of 50 percent.

No one will deny the fact that fear forms a great basis for inducing people to abstain from rational thinking and to accept disproportional government control. The Covid pass will not in any way slow down transmission of the virus, since both vaccinated and unvaccinated people can carry and transmit Covid. Yet only unvaccinated people are obliged to take a test in order to gain entry to public facilities. The system doesn’t just make a legally unjustified distinction between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated—discriminating between citizens on the basis of their medical data, which for privacy reasons should not be asked for in the first place—but it is also ineffective.

Although our government is of course well aware of the fact that vaccinated people can still get Covid and pass it on, they still aim to ostracize unvaccinated people and mark them as the enemies of public health. Just like President Joe Biden told American citizens that the government has “been patient, but our patience is wearing thin,” the Dutch minister of public health, Hugo de Jonge, stated that “the freedom of one group [those who do not wish to be vaccinated] cannot continue to threaten the freedom of another group [those who are vaccinated],” reminiscent of John Stuart Mill’s utilitarian harm principle.

This type of divisive rhetoric by the government is incredibly dangerous. Our minister puts forward a completely false dilemma: These two groups do not threaten each other’s freedom. It is actually the government and the government only, here, that poses a fundamental threat to both groups’ freedom. These losses of freedoms are imposed by policy. The vaccine does not protect anyone but the person who takes it. Nevertheless, plenty of people who aren’t afraid of the virus at all, or maybe have already had it and have natural immunity, have taken the vaccine because they fear the government and the social consequences of not being vaccinated more than they do the virus itself. Since when did we start to regard such behavior or choices as ‘’normal’’?

Frustratingly, only a very limited number of people in the West see what is really at stake here. Most fail to see that, once these Q.R. systems are enforced and people have become accustomed to them, these systems can be used for a variety of other purposes as well. It is most likely not a coincidence that a couple of weeks ago, suddenly, a nationwide poll was conducted to enquire how the Dutch viewed the possibility of a “personal carbon credit” system. Nevertheless, a large majority seems to believe—or want to believe—that all of this is for the common good, or that it is at least all temporary and won’t “get that far.”

I hope they are right, but I cannot help feeling that Tocqueville hit the nail on the head, as he often did, when he wrote that the type of despotism democratic people have to fear will in no way look like the despotism and tyranny our ancestors endured: “It would be more extensive and more mild; it would degrade men without tormenting them,” he wrote in 1840. And, in a way, the fact that it happens more gradually is what makes it arguably even more dangerous. After all, a people that do not realize they are losing their freedom will not fight for it. They will simply let it slip through their fingers.

Eva Vlaardingerbroek is a Dutch political commentator, legal theorist, and former candidate for the Forum for Democracy party.
 

marsh

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[Italy] Truckers Protest… Police lay down helmets…
Posted by Kane on September 27, 2021 11:27 am

View: https://youtu.be/Cvzy9RWW8co
.45 min
30,000+ truckers and supporters block highways and local roads to protest the Vaccine Health Pass

Streets blocked throughout Italy
View: https://youtu.be/1fYfPZW_jXM
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Police show solidarity with protesters — Lay down helmets
View: https://youtu.be/FDaw-ky0QbE
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Most New York Healthcare Workers Fired Over Vaccine Mandate Won't Get Unemployment Insurance

MONDAY, SEP 27, 2021 - 05:00 PM
By Kelly Gooch of Becker's Hospital Review

Healthcare workers who are fired for refusal to comply with the state's COVID-19 vaccination mandate likely won't be eligible for unemployment insurance, according to state officials.



In a statement released Sept. 25, New York Gov. Kathy Hochul's office said the New York Department of Labor has issued guidance to clarify that terminated workers won't be eligible for the benefits unless they have a valid physician-approved request for medical accommodation.

The governor's office made the announcement at the same time it unveiled a plan to address staffing shortages should a large number of healthcare workers leave hospitals and other facilities because of the state mandate.

New York's mandate requires healthcare workers at hospitals and nursing homes to receive their first vaccine dose by Sept. 27.

Workers at additional entities covered by the mandate, including diagnostic and treatment centers, home health agencies, long-term home healthcare programs, school-based clinics and hospice care programs, must have at least one dose by Oct. 7.
"Workers in a healthcare facility, nursing home, or school who voluntarily quit or are terminated for refusing an employer-mandated vaccination will be ineligible... absent a valid request for accommodation because these are workplaces where an employer has a compelling interest in such a mandate, especially if they already require other immunizations," according to the New York Department of Labor website.
Ms. Hochul's office has said the state will consider deploying National Guard members, as well as partnering with the federal government to deploy disaster medical assistance teams to help local healthcare systems.

The office said the governor's plan also includes the preparation of a state of emergency declaration to boost workforce supply and allow qualified healthcare professionals licensed in other states or countries, recent graduates, retired and formerly practicing healthcare professionals to practice at New York facilities.
 

marsh

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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW4ANn_WVZM
10:48 min
Australian reporter details CLASH between police & blue collar workers
Sep 27, 2021



Glenn Beck


What’s going on in Australia between police and blue collar workers? Video footage seemingly shows police officers harassing and attacking construction workers while they’re simply walking down the street…but the Aussie press tells a different story. So, Rebel News’ Avi Yemini joins Glenn to clear up the matter. He’s been on the ground, covering the brewing tension between police officers and construction workers since it first began. He tells Glenn that police continue to ‘escalate’ beyond reason, and it’s time we wake up to their continual overreach of power…
 

marsh

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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW2SyWDeKjw
15:40 min

376 - Rethinking Herd Immunity and COVID-19

Sep 27, 2021


Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health


With the rollout of vaccines earlier this year, the concept of “herd immunity”—the idea that enough people would become immune to COVID-19 that we could more or less “return to normal”—seemed plausible. But a number of factors are complicating the US’s fight against the pandemic and we’re still seeing thousands of people dying every day. Epidemiologists Amber D’Souza and David Dowdy return to the podcast to talk with Stephanie Desmon about vaccinations and the delta variant, what the future might look like and why we may need to accept that COVID-19 is here to stay.
 

dstraito

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I had a discussion with a man that ended quickly as he was very critical of antivaxers. He had his two shots and was feeling pretty. morally superior about it

Fast forward a few weeks. He started having heart issues. I could have told him about spike proteins, myocarditis, but he would not have listened so I kept my mouth shut.

What happened to herd immunity at 70-80%, now we have to be at 97-98%. I do not think so Tim, that is just about control.
 

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Poll: Majority Say Left Using Coronavirus Pandemic as ‘Trojan Horse for Permanent Socialism’
TO GO WITH AFP STORY BY REMY ZAKA - People parade with a Trojan horse during an historical reenactment in front of the amphitheatre as part of the third edition of the Roman Games on April 28, 2012 in Nimes, southern France. The event, that focused this year on the …
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HANNAH BLEAU27 Sep 2021192

A majority of likely voters believe the radical left is using the Chinese coronavirus pandemic as a “Trojan horse for permanent socialism,” a Rasmussen Reports survey released Monday found.

The survey asked respondents if they agreed or disagreed with the following statement: “The radical left … want to use this terrible but temporary pandemic as a Trojan horse for permanent socialism. And President Biden, who ran as a unifying moderate, is either powerless to stop them or does not wish to.”

A majority of likely voters, 59 percent, said they agree with that statement. Of those, 43 percent “strongly” agree. Notably, a majority of Republicans and independents believe that to be the case — 76 percent and 56 percent respectively.

One-third, overall, said they disagree with that statement, that the radical left is using the temporary pandemic as a Trojan horse for socialism, and of those, 24 percent “strongly” disagree. Another nine percent remain unsure. Notably, Democrats remain evenly split, as 46 percent generally agree with the statement and 46 percent generally disagree.

Respondents were also asked about Biden’s big government legislative agenda, which he claims will cost “zero dollars.” The survey found the proposal unpopular with the American people.

According to the survey, 53 percent oppose the passage of the $3.5 trillion bill. Of those, 41 percent “strongly” oppose the measure. Thirty-six percent, overall, expressed support for the measure, including 21 percent who “strongly” support it. Another ten percent remain undecided.

A study from the Texas Public Policy Foundation found Biden’s agenda “will kill 5.3 million jobs and generate $4.5 trillion in debt,” as Breitbart News detailed.

The survey, taken September 23 and 26 among 1,000 U.S. likely voters has a margin of error of +/- 3 percent.
 

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HUNDREDS of New Yorkers March in Manhattan Chanting “F**k Joe Biden – And DeBlasio” (VIDEO)

By Jim Hoft
Published September 27, 2021 at 9:13pm
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Another day – Another “F**k Joe Biden” chant somewhere in the US.

Hundreds of New Yorkers marched in Manhattan on Monday against the mandated COVID vaccinations pushed by Joe Biden and Bill DeBlasio.

The protesters chanted, “F**k Joe Biden – And DeBlasio!”

This is New York City!

Rumble video on website .19 min
 

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BREAKING: Project Veritas: Johnson & Johnson: Children Don’t Need the ‘F*cking’ Covid Vaccine – “Unknown Repercussions” (VIDEO)

By Cristina Laila
Published September 27, 2021 at 7:26pm
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Project Veritas on Monday released part 3 of its #ExposeCovidVax series exposing Johnson & Johnson officials who said children do not need the Covid vaccine because the long-term side effects could be dangerous.

In part 3, one Johnson & Johnson employee said kids shouldn’t get ‘f*cking’ Covid vaccine because it could be potentially dangerous.

Brandon Schadt, Johnson & Johnson Regional Business Lead: “It’s a kid, you just don’t do that, you know? Not something that’s so unknown in terms of repercussions down the road, you know?”

Schadt: “Kids shouldn’t get a f*cking [COVID] vaccine.”

Schadt: “It’s a kid, it’s a f*cking kid, you know? They shouldn’t have to get a f*cking [COVID] vaccine, you know?”

Schadt: “J&J is like stepping in the best smelling pile of sh*t you could step in.”

Justin Durrant, Johnson & Johnson Scientist: “Don’t get the Johnson & Johnson [COVID vaccine], I didn’t tell you though.”

Durrant: “It wouldn’t make that much of a difference” if children are unvaccinated for COVID.

Durrant: “Inconvenience [the unvaccinated] to the point where it’s like, ‘I might as well just f*cking do it [and take the COVID vaccine],’ you know what I’m saying?”

Durrant: “It’s almost like — you’re almost like a second-grade citizen if you’re not vaccinated…you can’t do anything that a normal citizen can do.”

Durrant: “If you can’t work, I feel like that’s punishment enough…Only way people really act and comply is if it affects their pockets, like if you’re working for a big company and you’re going to lose your job, best believe you’ll be the first one in line [to take the COVID vaccine]…That’s what we’re doing.”

Justin Durrant, a J&J scientist, laughed at the idea of making life hell for the unvaccinated.
Justin Durrant, Johnson & Johnson Scientist: “Inconvenience [the unvaccinated] to the point where it’s like, ‘I might as well just f*cking do it [and take the COVID vaccine],’ you know what I’m saying? Like ‘I can’t go out of state,’ I can’t – ‘my grandma’s in Canada and I can’t visit her,’ you know what I’m saying? You can’t go to France unless you’re vaccinated — you know you’ve just got to keep doing things like that where you’re almost like a second-grade citizen if you’re not vaccinated, but I know that’s awful.”
Veritas Journalist: “You’re almost what?”

Durrant: “Like a second-grade citizen, like you can’t do anything that a normal citizen can do.”

Veritas Journalist: “A second graded citizen?”

Durrant: “Yeah like top grade, like the ones that get it, and the ones that just like — then you can’t do sh*t.”

Veritas Journalist: “So then how do we punish [the unvaccinated]?”

Durrant: “I mean if you can’t work, I feel like that’s punishment enough.”

Veritas Journalist: “People what?”

Durrant: “Only way people really act and comply is if it affects their pockets, like if you’re working for a big company and you’re going to lose your job, best believe you’ll be the first one in line [to take the COVID vaccine].”

VIDEO:

View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1442640198811242500
9:58 min

Back up video just in case Twitter delete

View: https://youtu.be/hNIj83XNNeE


You can support James O’Keefe and Project Veritas by clicking here.
 

marsh

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Update: Federal Judges Say NYC Can Impose Vaccine Mandate on School Employees – Lawyers Representing Teachers to Petition US Supreme Court

By Cristina Laila
Published September 27, 2021 at 9:25pm
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A federal appeals court judge Friday night temporarily blocked the vaccine mandate for New York City school employees.

A judge for the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Friday evening granted a temporary injunction and referred the case to a three-judge panel for an “expedited review,” the Associated Press reported.

On Monday, the three-judge panel of the 2nd US Circuit Court of Appeals in Manhattan issued an order blocking the mandate ordered from the single appeals judge.

Lawyers representing teachers and other school employees said they will immediately petition the US Supreme Court to intervene.




The lawyers argued de Blasio’s order will “leave teachers and paraprofessionals without the resources to pay rent, utilities, and other essentials. The harm is imminent.”

“Imminent and irreparable harm exists,” the lawyers wrote, according to CNBC.

CNBC reported:
The nation’s largest school district can immediately impose a vaccine mandate on its teachers and other workers, after all, a federal appeals panel decided Monday, leading lawyers for teachers to say they’ll ask the U.S. Supreme Court to intervene.

The three-judge panel of the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Manhattan issued a brief order late in the day that lifted a block of the mandate that a single appeals judge had put in place on Friday.



After an adverse ruling from a Brooklyn judge, a group of teachers had brought the case to the appeals court, which assigned a three-judge panel to hear oral arguments Wednesday. But the appeals panel issued its order Monday after written arguments were submitted by both sides.



Attorney Mark Fonte, who brought the lawsuit on behalf of teachers and others, said in a statement that he and attorney Louis Gelormino were immediately petitioning the Supreme Court to intervene.
The FDA in late August granted a full approval to the Pfizer vaccine.

Within minutes of the FDA’s approval, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio also announced that all of the city’s public school employees would be required to get the vaccine by September 27.

De Blasio shrugged off unions representing teachers warning of a teacher shortage if the vaccine mandate went into effect.

“We’ve been planning all along. We have a lot of substitutes ready,” de Blasio said according to AP.

Separately, the New York governor’s vaccine mandate for healthcare workers goes into effect at midnight tonight.

Newly sworn in Democrat New York Governor Kathy Hochul on Monday said she will deploy the National Guard to replace the unvaccinated healthcare workers in hospitals.

“I will be signing an executive order to give me the emergency powers necessary to address the shortages where they occur and that’s going to allow me to deploy the national guard who are medically trained…” Hochul said putting unvaccinated healthcare workers on notice.

And just like that, last year’s healthcare/educational heroes are today’s villains.
 

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Lawyers & Scientists Are Building A Case For Why Natural Immunity Should Be Treated Same As Vaccination

MONDAY, SEP 27, 2021 - 09:20 PM
Now that at least one employer in the health-care field - Michigan's Spectrum Health - has decided to accept proof of natural immunity from prior infection as reason to waive its vaccination mandate for all employees, legal expert (and the reporters who love to quote them) are wondering: will the legality of proving natural immunity potentially win out in court?

The answer to that question, they say, will depend - as all things COVID-related do - on "the science", that nebulous and frequently shifting concept of how prior infection impacts immunity to new variants (and whether vaccine's do as well).



According to a report in Yahoo Finance, the notion that natural immunity is superior is already gaining support in the legal world. Presently, a handful of studies from different countries offer a conflicting view of whether natural immunity actually is superior to vaccinated immunity, or a combination of prior infection and vaccination

Since it's likely the federal government's aim to roll out vaccine mandates that cover practically every US worker (they're not too far off already), the issue of natural vs. vaccine immunity and whether some individuals should receive exemptions based on their antibody levels almost certainly be adjudicated in the federal courts.

At least one attorney quoted by Yahoo agrees:
"I think that a judge might reject a rule that's been issued by a body, like the U.S. Department of Labor or by a state, that has not been sufficiently thought through as it relates to the science," Erik Eisenmann, a labor and employment attorney with Husch Blackwell, told Yahoo Finance.
As we reported when it was first published, a report out of Israel suggests that natural immunity could be many times more effective than the Pfizer vaccine at preventing infection with the delta variant. That study has yet to be peer-reviewed, however, and the world is anxiously awaiting the results.

However, another peer-reviewed study cited by the CDC looks at dozens of cases in the US where certain people who tested positive for COVID never ended up generating the antibodies, which, science dictates, are necessary to fend off future infection.

The CDC also published a study of 246 Kentucky residents, concluding that vaccination offers higher protection than a previous COVID infection. The CDC said the study went through a "rigorous multi-level clearance process" before submission, but now some are concerned it's slightly out of date since it pre-dates the rise of delta.

But as far as supporting natural vs. vaccinated immunity goes, this study is another big one: A C A June study by the Cleveland Clinic and Washington University tracked 52,238 Cleveland Clinic employees found that within 1,359 previously infected and unvaccinated people, none contracted a subsequent COVID-19 infection over the five-month study. The findings led authors to conclude that prior infection makes a person "unlikely to benefit from COVID-19 vaccination."

Then there's this:
In a smaller study conducted by Washington University School of Medicine and published in Nature, senior author Ali Ellebedy, PhD, an associate professor of medicine and of molecular microbiology, found antibody-producing cells in the bone marrow of 15 of 19 study subjects 11 months after their first COVID-19 symptoms. "These cells will live and produce antibodies for the rest of people’s lives. That’s strong evidence for long-lasting immunity,” Ellebedy said.
The legal and scientific standards are intertwined here, but as more data develops that appears to validate the argument that natural immunity is at least as effective as vaccinated immunity, it's more likely that lawyers will succeed in convincing judges that the standard should be "immunity by any means."
 

von Koehler

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I'm going to put this here, but I wouldn't mind seeing a dedicated thread for Adverse Reactions only experienced or known about by peeps on this forum.
My daughter was home last month to visit and had taken the first shot. I advised her not to take the second shot and we talked about it extensively. Anyway she gets back to NY and takes it anyway. Now she has had bleeding for three weeks solid from her period shortly after the 2nd jab. She also says another lady at her work is suffering the same thing after her 2nd jab, which they got them about the same time.

She is going to the Dr., but what can they do?

Sadly and tragically, nothing.

A younger brother whom I thought wouldn't get the jab is probably going to because of pressure from his wife and half-niece.

They are blocking him from seeing a grandchild as long as he is "unvaxed". They are saying his unvacc'ed status puts the child at risk.

It saddens me greatly that he is going to commit suicide because of their emotional power play.

They have bought into the whole covid-19 panic hook, line, and sinker.

I am afraid my whole family will end up taking the jab. There is absolutely nothing I can say that will change their minds.

It is very sobering to realize your entire family line will go extinct.

Damn Gates, Soros, and Schwab to Hell.
 
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Exclusive Video: London’s Covid Cops Shut Down Peaceful Protest Against Vaccine Passports

KURT ZINDULKA27 Sep 2021134

Video on website 2:40 min

London’s Metropolitan Police shut down a peaceful protest against vaccine passports and other coronavirus restrictions in Clapham Common, London with an an officer claiming that the group’s sound system was “unlicensed”.

On Saturday, between one and two thousand people took to the streets of London marching from Hyde in Central London across the River Thames to Clapham Common.

Demonstrators were seen carrying placards reading “no vaccine passports”, and “resist the new normal”.

A protester is seen carrying a placard reading Resist the New Normal at a protest against vaccine passports in London. September 25th, 2021. Kurt Zindulka, Breitbart News
A protester is seen carrying a placard reading “Resist the New Normal” at a protest against vaccine passports in London. September 25th, 2021. Kurt Zindulka, Breitbart News

The march culminated in Clapham Common park, where a sound stage in a truck played DJ music, turning the protest into a ‘freedom rave’ of sorts.

At around 6 pm the sound stage hosted speakers, including activist James Harvey, who founded the group Students Against Tyranny.

“If you allow the government to break the law and violate your rights because of an emergency, what’s stopping them from creating an emergency to break the law,” Harvey questioned.

“They don’t care about you, they never have. Now is the time to stand up and say no,” he added.

An anti-vaccine passport sticker seen at a protest against coronavirus restrictions in London. September 25th, 2021. Kurt Zindulka, Breitbart News
An anti-vaccine passport sticker seen at a protest against coronavirus restrictions in London. September 25th, 2021. Kurt Zindulka, Breitbart News

FiFi Rose, the organiser of the UK branch of the Stand in the Park movement, said: “We hold the power, the one thing they fear the most is us stepping into our power, embodying our truth and knowing that nobody has any authority over us.”

With ironic timing, as a speaker from the civil rights campaign group Lawyers for Liberty was recounting an incident of police violence at previous anti-lockdown protests, approximately twenty officers surrounded the stage and shut down the event.

Many more officers, some dressed in riot gear, were seen by Breitbart London amassing on the outskirts of the protest. However, tensions were brought down as the organisers pled with the crowd to not engage and to disperse in order to avoid arrest.

One protester was heard telling the police: “We are not against you, we are against government tyranny.”.

The Met did not announce any arrests or give an official explanation for the dispersal, however, the local Lambeth Police Force announced on social media that they would be enacting a sections 60 order, granting officers power to stop and search people within a given area. The force said that the move came in response to “intel received of possible violence”.
Exclusive Video: 'I Thought We Won the War?' — Thousands Protest Against 'Fascist' Vaccine Passports WATCH: Thousands Protest Against 'Fascist' Vaccine Passports in London
— Breitbart London (@BreitbartLondon) July 25, 2021
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Ref WATCH: Thousands Protest Against 'Fascist' Vaccine Passports in London Video 2:36 min July 2021
 

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Peer-Reviewed Study: ‘COVID Shot More Likely to Kill Children Than Virus’

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Darian Alexander |
Sep 24, 2021
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On Thursday Robert W. Malone, a scientist well known for inventing mRNA vaccines and RNA as a drug shared a peer-reviewed scientific study that concluded that a COVID-19 inoculation in children is more dangerous for them than the virus itself.

The report begins by discussing various stats in the pandemic, including how many people in the United States reportedly died from the disease, how many have been inoculated, and how many people have been concluded dead by the CDC’s VARES (Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System) following the shot.

It was also pointed out that VARES is very flawed, with many estimates indicating that they only report only 1% of actual vaccine/inoculation deaths.
“In the USA, nearly 600,000 deaths have been officially attributed to COVID-19. Almost 5,000 deaths following inoculation have been reported to VAERS by late May 2021; specifically, “Over 285 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through May 24, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 4,863 reports of death (0.0017 %) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine.” [3] (the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS) is a passive surveillance system managed jointly by the CDC and FDA [3]. Historically, VAERS has been shown to report about 1% of actual vaccine/inoculation adverse events [4]. See Appendix 1 for a first-principles confirmation of that result). By mid-June, deaths following COVID-19 inoculations had reached the ̃6000 levels.”
Study: Why are we vaccinating children against COVID-19?
Scientists conducting the study rejected the use of the word ‘vaccine’ when discussing COVID-19 shots, claiming that the substance is not effective enough to meet the criteria. They define a vaccine as “any substance designed to be administered to a human being for the prevention of one or more diseases.”

According to the authors, this is not the case with the COVID-19 inoculation.

“In the remainder of this article, we use the term ‘inoculated’ rather than vaccinated,” the study writes.

“The injected material in the present COVID-19 inoculations prevents neither viral infection nor transmission. Since its main function in practice appears to be symptom suppression, it is operationally a ‘treatment.'”

Results from the peer-reviewed work were stunning, boldly claiming that”the results show conservatively that there are five times the number of deaths truly attributable to each inoculation vs those truly attributable to COVID-19 in the 65+demographic.”

It is then concluded that given the predictions levied for those 65+, the best case scenario on kids receiving the shot appears to be “very poor”, saying that “the chances of death from COVID-19 [for children] are negligible, but the chances of serious damage over their lifetime from the toxic inoculations are not negligible.”

The authors of the study also pointed out that the deaths from the inoculations shown in VAERS are short-term, and that potential intermediate and long-term deaths as a result of the COVID-19 shots have yet to be identified simply because there has not been enough time to observe such complications.

The full study can be found by clicking here.
 

ainitfunny

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This should have been given ita own thread!!
Peer-Reviewed Study: ‘COVID Shot More Likely to Kill Children Than Virus’

Peer-Reviewed Study: ‘COVID Shot More Likely to Kill Children Than Virus’

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Darian Alexander |
Sep 24, 2021
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On Thursday Robert W. Malone, a scientist well known for inventing mRNA vaccines and RNA as a drug shared a peer-reviewed scientific study that concluded that a COVID-19 inoculation in children is more dangerous for them than the virus itself.

The report begins by discussing various stats in the pandemic, including how many people in the United States reportedly died from the disease, how many have been inoculated, and how many people have been concluded dead by the CDC’s VARES (Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System) following the shot.

It was also pointed out that VARES is very flawed, with many estimates indicating that they only report only 1% of actual vaccine/inoculation deaths.

Scientists conducting the study rejected the use of the word ‘vaccine’ when discussing COVID-19 shots, claiming that the substance is not effective enough to meet the criteria. They define a vaccine as “any substance designed to be administered to a human being for the prevention of one or more diseases.”

According to the authors, this is not the case with the COVID-19 inoculation.

“In the remainder of this article, we use the term ‘inoculated’ rather than vaccinated,” the study writes.

“The injected material in the present COVID-19 inoculations prevents neither viral infection nor transmission. Since its main function in practice appears to be symptom suppression, it is operationally a ‘treatment.'”

Results from the peer-reviewed work were stunning, boldly claiming that”the results show conservatively that there are five times the number of deaths truly attributable to each inoculation vs those truly attributable to COVID-19 in the 65+demographic.”

It is then concluded that given the predictions levied for those 65+, the best case scenario on kids receiving the shot appears to be “very poor”, saying that “the chances of death from COVID-19 [for children] are negligible, but the chances of serious damage over their lifetime from the toxic inoculations are not negligible.”

The authors of the study also pointed out that the deaths from the inoculations shown in VAERS are short-term, and that potential intermediate and long-term deaths as a result of the COVID-19 shots have yet to be identified simply because there has not been enough time to observe such complications.

The full study can be found by clicking here.
 

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Pfizer testing pill that could fight off COVID after exposure or infection

PHIL SHIVER
September 27, 2021

Pfizer is testing an antiviral pill that could fight off COVID-19 infection among people who have a close contact that tests positive for the virus.

In a news release Monday, the biotech company announced the start of a late-stage trial for the drug to test its efficacy against the virus in combination with a low dose of the HIV drug, ritonavir, among those who are at least 18 years old and who live in the same household as someone with a symptomatic COVID-19 infection.

The drugmaker hopes to enroll at least 2,660 people in the double-blind study. Participants will receive either the treatment regimen or a placebo twice each day for five to 10 days.

The study is part of a larger clinical trial launched in March that aims to develop a safe, easy treatment for coronavirus infections after they surface so as to ease the burden on hospitals.

According to CBS News, the drug belongs to a class of medicines called protease inhibitors, which are used to treat diseases such as HIV and Hepatitis C. They work by hampering the production of enzymes needed for the virus to multiply in human cells.

By adding ritonavir in combination with the pill, scientists hope the treatment will last longer in the body.

In March, Dr. Mikael Dolsten, Pfizer's chief scientific officer, said the antiviral treatment could potentially be prescribed "at the first sign of infection, without requiring that patients are hospitalized or in critical care."

Pfizer is also testing the drug among people already infected with the virus. The company expects those results by the end of the year.

"With the continued impact of COVID-19 around the world, we believe that tackling the virus will require effective treatments for people who contract, or have been exposed to, the virus, complementing the impact that vaccines have had in helping quell infections," Dolsten added in a statement Monday.

"If successful, we believe this therapy could help stop the virus early — before it has had a chance to replicate extensively — potentially preventing symptomatic disease in those who have been exposed and inhibiting the onset of infection in others," he said.

Forbes noted there are currently few drugs designed to fight infection among those who either have already contracted the virus or been exposed to it. And the ones that are available — such as monoclonal antibodies — are expensive, scarce, and require administration in a hospital setting.
 
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Defence Legislation Amendment (Enhancement of Defence Force response to Emergencies) Bill, 2020

SEP 28
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A Bill to enable use of foreign troops or foreign police in Australian “emergencies” is called the “Defence Legislation Amendment (Enhancement of Defence Force response to Emergencies) Bill, 2020”.

Parliament of Aust website: Defence Legislation Amendment (Enhancement of Defence Force Response to Emergencies) Bill 2020 – Parliament of Australia

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Further the legislation includes the use of foreign military forces and foreign police to assist in “emergencies”. Surely we Australians are, with appropriate resources and organisation, capable of addressing emergencies without the need for foreign troops or foreign police. And we certainly don’t want these foreign forces confronting and suppressing legitimate protest actions by Australian citizens.

In addition the legislation provide immunity from civil or criminal prosecution to the defence forces including foreign military, for their actions in these “emergencies”.
A Bill to enable use of foreign troops or foreign police in Australian “emergencies” - Pearls and Irritations

The “grossly inadequate” Human Rights Statement “does not address public rights that may well be infringed under these provisions.” The proposed immunities would also extend to “foreign military and police forces”, suggesting more than a cheerful nod of approval to those nuclear armed allies across the pond. “The use of a foreign army or militarised police force should not be allowed at all, and certainly not without the safeguard of citizens’ rights of access to courts.”

Under the cover of stealth and reliable apathy, powers have been vested in Australia’s military and ministerial authorities with scant debate and even less scrutiny. As law academic Michael Head points out with noticeable alarm, powers calling out the Australian Defence Force to deal with, for instance, “domestic violence”, or likely dangers to “declared infrastructure” are left undefined. Vagueness bedevils the legislation, passed ostensibly to protect the populace against terrorist attacks. “Once deployed, military personnel can exercise extraordinary powers over civilians, overturning basic legal and democratic rights.”

The government insists that the bill does not authorise armed force against civilians, but there is no such protection in the legislation. Labor Party helps impose Australian military call-out laws for “emergencies”

I BELIEVE there are very worrying implications in a bill being considered in federal parliament. It is called the Defence Legislation Amendment (Enhancement of Defence Force response to Emergencies) Bill, 2020. It enables the ADF and Reserves to be used in emergencies, but “emergencies” is undefined.

Bushfire assistance is one emergency which might be justified but could certain so-called disruptive industrial actions or disruptive mass climate change protests be considered emergencies? These are legitimate actions in our democracy, and I believe being confronted or suppressed by the defence forces or reserves would not be a legitimate use of these forces in a healthy democracy.

Further, the legislation includes the use of foreign military forces and foreign police to assist in emergencies. Surely we Australians are, with appropriate resources and organisation, capable of addressing emergencies without the need for foreign troops or foreign police? We certainly
don’t want these foreign forces confronting and suppressing legitimate protest actions by Australian citizens.

Our political representatives in federal parliament should be urged to halt this legislation until it is closely examined by civil rights and constitutional law experts to ensure our civil and democratic rights are not under threat or our sovereignty compromised by this legislation.

It’s about setting up a hub within our national borders to kickstart the next step towards the overall goals of complete implementation of the UN Agenda 2030 doctrine.
 
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MUST SEE: One of the BEST VIDEOS EVER on the New World Order Starring Disgusting Aussie Prime Minister Scott Morrison

By Jim Hoft
Published September 28, 2021 at 8:55am
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Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison spoke to the UN General Assembly last week. The Aussie leader promoted his country’s long tradition of freedom and human rights.

Deactivist took the Prime Minister’s speech and filled it in with reality.

Australia under Morrison is unrecognizable. Surely, he knows this. And obviously, he doesn’t care.

This is one of the best videos made on the new world order and lying politicians.

The video is already marked for adults by YouTube for some reason.

You know it will not be live on the Google platform for long.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoIPToh-i3k
1:58 min

Here’s another copy.

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“Mercy Fires Heroes” – St. Louis Mercy Hospital Employees Hold Highway Protest Against Mandatory Vaccines (VIDEO)

By Jim Hoft
Published September 28, 2021 at 9:47am
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Hospital employees in the St. Louis area were notified this summer that they would be forced to take the COVID vaccine to continue their employment.

BJC workers were required to be vaccinated against COVID-19 by Sept. 15 and at Mercy and SSM Health, employees will need to be vaccinated by the end of September. That means they have two more days to get vaccinated. Many employees are against the vaccine for several reasons.


On Tuesday Mercy employees held a highway protest near Mercy Hospital on the interstate.

The protesters posted a massive “Mercy Fires Heroes” sign over Interstate 64 next to the hospital.

In the video, you can hear cars and trucks honking their support for the protesters as they drive by.

Here is our exclusive video from today’s protest.

Rumble video on website
 

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N.C. hospital system fires about 175 workers in one of the largest-ever mass terminations due to a vaccine mandate

Timothy Bella 7 hrs ago

A North Carolina-based hospital system announced Monday that roughly 175 unvaccinated employees were fired for failing to comply with the organization’s mandatory coronavirus vaccination policy, the latest in a series of health-care dismissals over coronavirus immunization.

A health-care worker administers a dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech coronavirus vaccine to a staff member of the Clarendon School District at Manning High School in Manning, S.C., on March 12. (Micah Green/Bloomberg)
A health-care worker administers a dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech coronavirus vaccine to a staff member of the Clarendon School District at Manning High School in Manning, S.C., on March 12. (Micah Green/Bloomberg)

Novant Health said last week that 375 unvaccinated workers — across 15 hospitals and 800 clinics — had been suspended for not getting immunized. Unvaccinated employees were given five days to comply.

Novant Health spokeswoman Megan Rivers tweeted Monday that almost 200 of the suspended workers, including those who had submitted approved exemptions, received their first dose by Friday. The hospital confirmed that the rest of the suspended employees who did not comply were fired, although the exact number of those dismissed was not specified.

“We stand by our decision to make the vaccine mandatory as we have a responsibility to protect our patients, visitors and team members, regardless of where they are in our health system,” Novant Health said in a statement. “We couldn’t be prouder of our team members who made the choice to receive the covid-19 vaccine and remain part of our team at Novant Health.”

Rivers told The Washington Post that more than 99 percent of the system’s roughly 35,000 employees have followed the mandatory vaccination program. She said in a statement that Novant Health was “thrilled” those who chose to be vaccinated have given patients and visitors “better protection against COVID-19 regardless of where they are in our health system.”

The mass termination of unvaccinated hospital system employees is among the largest of its kind to date. More than 150 health-care workers who did not comply with a vaccine mandate at Houston Methodist — one of the first health systems to require the coronavirus shots — were fired or resigned in June after a federal judge upheld the policy. ChristianaCare, a Delaware health system, announced this week that 150 employees were fired for not adhering to its vaccine mandate.

e move by the Winston-Salem-based system comes as some health-care workers continue to push back on employers’ vaccine mandates after President Biden announced sweeping coronavirus vaccine mandates this month. The president ordered all businesses with more than 100 employees to require their workers to be immunized or face weekly testing, noting that he would also require most health-care facilities that accept Medicare or Medicaid funding to vaccinate their employees.

But as hospitals have been pushed to their limits in recent months, the opposition from some health-care workers toward vaccination policies have further complicated an already difficult situation for the nation’s doctors and nurses.

That opposition has played out in New York, where Gov. Kathy Hochul (D) signed an executive order Monday night ahead of what could be a health-care worker shortage due to the state’s vaccine mandate that has now gone into effect. The order allows the state to expand the available health-care workforce at a time when thousands of workers are still believed to be unvaccinated.

“The only way we can move past this pandemic is to ensure that everyone eligible is vaccinated, and that includes those who are taking care of our vulnerable family members and loved ones,” Hochul said in a statement.

In North Carolina, the state is averaging more than 5,130 new daily coronavirus infections over the past week, which is an improvement compared with the previous period, according to data tracked by The Washington Post. More than 3,200 people are being treated for covid-19, including 932 in the intensive care unit.

About 50 percent of the state is fully vaccinated, trailing the national vaccination rate of 55.4 percent.

Novant Health introduced its mandatory policy on July 22, saying that employees were given until Sept. 15 to comply and get vaccinated.

“We agree with the North Carolina Healthcare Association, the Infectious Diseases Society of America, and many other health care systems in the region that a mandatory vaccine program is in the best interest of public health,” the health system said in a news release. “Simply put, it is essential to ensure the safety of our patients, team members and communities.”

Novant Health has urged the community to get vaccinated. It joined other health systems in the Charlotte area in releasing data this month showing how more than 90 percent of their covid-19 patients had not been vaccinated. David Priest, Novant Health’s chief safety, quality and epidemiology officer, acknowledged to WGHP that the recent wave of covid patients had overwhelmed the hospital system.

“They’re tired. I’m tired. We’re all tired,” he said.

On Sept. 21, the hospital system announced that nearly 400 workers remained unvaccinated. Novant Health said in a news release that unvaccinated employees were given a few additional days to get their first dose.

“If a team member remains non-compliant after this suspension period, he or she will have their employment with Novant Health terminated,” the health system said.

Novant Health employees who have been granted medical or religious exemptions are required to undergo weekly coronavirus testing. While working on Novant Health premises, those with exemptions also must wear N95 respirator masks or other personal protective equipment and eyewear protection.

Some unvaccinated workers remained adamant about not getting immunized. Laura Rushing, a nurse of 16 years with Novant Health, told WSOC that the hospital system denied her religious exemption and that she planned to look for a new job.

“When they put the mandate out there, one thing I knew for sure was I was not gonna take the shot. So, I put in for a religious exemption and got denied,” Rushing told the outlet. “Who decided my religious exemption, the wording used was not good enough? It wasn’t as good as someone else’s? That just feels like discrimination and I didn’t appreciate it.”

Novant Health workers have until Oct. 15 to complete their vaccination and remain in compliance, the hospital system said.
 

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[Australia] 30 cops to nail one bloke…
Posted by Kane on September 28, 2021 3:01 pm

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Mother arrested in front of her children — The situation is getting worse

Man arrested for leaving his home — At least 30 cops



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Australia looks like Benny Hill sketch…
Posted by Kane on September 28, 2021 11:16 am

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Unvaccinated People Will Face Prison for Entering Venues, NSW Government Warns

28/09/2021 BY SONIA HICKEY
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The New South Wales Government has threatened ‘gaol time’ for unvaccinated people who attempt to enter venues in breach of forthcoming public health orders, which will limit entry to vaccinated persons only.

The warning comes somewhat ironically on the back of the government’s announcement that from 1 December 2021, unvaccinated people will have the same ‘freedoms’ as those who are vaccinated.

Warning to business owners
NSW Customer Service Minister Victor Dominello, who has been overseeing the development of the digital vaccination passports that is due to be rolled out in coming weeks, has also warned businesses they will be required to immediately report any instance of an unvaccinated person attempting or gaining entry to police, or face legal consequences.

The government’s new system will link COVID vaccination status with QR Code check-ins at venues across the state, such as shop, restaurants, bars and pubs, gyms and sporting and other entertainment venues.

Ever-expanding public health orders
The full details of the COVID passport are yet to be released, but the new rules are expected to be added to ever-expanding public health orders in New South Wales.

But one thing is certain – COVID passports are seen by the government as an integral part of its ‘road map’ forward, as the state begins to open up after months of lockdowns in Greater Sydney.

Businesses expected to police COVID rules
Many businesses have expressed concerns about their role in policing the vaccination passports and in response, the Minister says it is not businesses’ role to do so, and to call the police on anyone who fails to use the QR check-in, or who enters premises without being vaccinated.
Over the past 18 months, retail workers have been on the receiving end of a lot of backlash over COVID-19 rules, from social distancing and mask wearing to QR code check-ins.

There have been cases where customers have become aggressive and assaulted staff. It’s only natural that businesses fear that problems will escalate when pubs, cafes, hairdressers and other venues are allowed to reopen to fully vaccinated customers.

Data from the National Retail Association, which represents more than 1 million workers in more than 24,000 retail and fast food outlets across Australia, shows that incidents of violence towards retail and hospitality staff have increased dramatically across New South Wales and Victoria during the pandemic, mostly in relation to public health orders.

Victorian retailers reported an 85 per cent year-on-year increase in reported events with threatening behaviour in 2021.

In New South Wales, incidents of customers threatening staff are up 19 per cent year on year.

Suspects face court
In one recent incident, a couple were charged with assault after an altercation with a business owner who asked them to leave when they refused to check-in.

In another case, a woman was charged with five counts of failing to comply with an electronic registration directive after she was given a permit to travel from Sydney to Byron Bay for work, but failed to check-in at venues she visited on the way. She is due to face court in October.

Failing to comply with a public health order
The prospects of prison time for failing to comply with a public health order are nothing new.

Section 10 of the Public Health Act provides that a person who, without reasonable excuse, fails to comply with a public health order faces a maximum penalty of 6 months in prison and/or a fine of 100 penalty units, which is currently $11,000.

Any continued failure to comply is punishable by a fine of 50 penalty units, or $5,500, for each day the offence continues.

The maximum penalty for companies is 500 penalty units, or $55,000, and 250 penalty units, or $27,500 for each day the offence continues.

However, ‘authorised officers’ – including police officers – currently have the option of issuing those suspected of breaching public health orders with penalty infringement notices – in other words, and on-the-spot fines.

These fines range from $500 to $5000, depending on the nature of the suspected offence.

Meanwhile in France
Right now, the proposed COVID passport regime is starting to sound eerily similar to the tough vaccination laws introduced in France earlier this year, which prescribe hefty fines and lengthy prison terms for anyone who enters, or attempts to enter, premises such as cafes, cinemas, restaurants, bars and shops which are restricted to the vaccinated.

Fines and prison time also apply in France for businesses that fail without a reasonable excuse to check customer/patron status on arrival.

When the laws were first going through Parliament, the people of France rioted in the streets and the laws were criticised globally as being exceptionally ‘harsh’, particularly given that France is meant to be a democratic nation.

Now that the laws are in force, many French people have taken to picnicking outside cafes and restaurants, or shopping online, and businesses have seen significant downturns in revenue as a result

Following the French model?
It would appear from Mr Dominello’s statement that the New South Wales Government could be considering following the French model, despite the hesitancy about vaccination passports being expressed by local businesses, and a pledge from thousands of businesses that they will remain open to everyone, vaccinated or not.

The relevant public health order determining the rules and regulations around the COVID passport app has not been issued so the penalties have not yet been determined.

However, public health orders can be made by the Minister for Health, Brad Hazzard, and don’t need to pass the rigorous debates and law-making processes that legislation does.
 

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Pfizer submits Vaccine data for 5 year-olds…
Posted by Kane on September 28, 2021 9:42 am

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Pfizer have submitted trial data to the FDA for their Vaccine to be used in children as young as five.

The trial, which produced “positive topline results,” included 2,268 participants in the 5 to 12 year age category. The company said the vaccine in this study performed similarly to a previous study for people 16 to 25 years.

The vaccine is already authorized for children age 12 and older, and it took about one month for regulators to approve it after the companies formally filed for emergency-use authorization.

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Pfizer submits Vaccine data for 5 year-olds…
Posted by Kane on September 28, 2021 9:42 am

View: https://youtu.be/1pxgSXhsVTw
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Pfizer have submitted trial data to the FDA for their Vaccine to be used in children as young as five.

The trial, which produced “positive topline results,” included 2,268 participants in the 5 to 12 year age category. The company said the vaccine in this study performed similarly to a previous study for people 16 to 25 years.

The vaccine is already authorized for children age 12 and older, and it took about one month for regulators to approve it after the companies formally filed for emergency-use authorization.

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2021-09-27 07:00 by Karl Denninger
The Crazy Is Strong In This One...

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Joe has no idea what's coming.

I do.

He thinks the roughly 25% of Americans who "can" get a jab but refuse for Covid-19 will be "swayed" by his order.

He's wrong; he might get a couple of percent of the 25%, but that's it.

Why?

Because playing Hitler, which is exactly what he's done (and now Kamala has done it too) not only doesn't work it pisses people off.

Those who have refused thus far fall into three broad categories:
  • They've seen others they know get the jab and have a very bad outcome. They're unwilling because they know damn well its dangerous as they've seen it with their own eyes. You cannot bull**** those people with "safe" since they've watched a loved one, close associate or someone in their immediate vicinity get hammered after taking it, and they're not going to put their own ass in that position. No way, no how. They may in fact be willing to kill anyone who tries to enforce such a mandate on them because, as they see it, taking the jab means they're dead already, so there is no downside to taking you to Hell with them. I cannot argue with that logic. Just last afternoon I saw an ambulance outside a local drugstore that dispenses jabs while waiting for a traffic light; the doors were open and the lights on. That wasn't a "pleasure call" and the several hundred people who witnessed it while at that intersection knew damn well what probably happened. Nobody who sees a life-threatening or fatal incident associated with these jabs and has more than 2 firing neurons in their head is going to allow you anywhere near them with a needle.

  • They're presumptively immune as they've had Covid-19 and recovered. The CDC claims that, as of this point, that's 41 million Americans. For them there is zero benefit, prospective or otherwise, to taking the jab and they know it. Even Washington's much-ballyhooed "mandate" to take the smallpox inoculation by his troops (which killed a decent number of them, by the way) is bull**** for those individuals; Washington did not inoculate himself because he previously had smallpox and survived. He wasn't stupid and neither are these people. This is not a small percentage of the population; by the NEJM numbers about 20% of the US Population as of May had been infected with and recovered from Covid-19. Today, given the "summer surge", that is very likely to be 25% or better and I would not take a bet it's less than 1 in 3 since the CDC's "tested positive" numbers exclude a huge number of people who were never tested but conclusively had Covid-19. Incidentally, I'm among them, as I've detailed in these pages yet neither I or two other close associates are in the CDC's numbers as none of us were ever tested or saw a physician for the disease yet we all, quite-clearly, had it and recovered. Not accounting for that is criminally insane on the part of the Administration and legally, morally and ethically unsupportable. The "mandate" will, I predict, fail for this reason alone in the fullness of time and legal challenge. If I can self-attest to having had chicken pox (and I most-certainly can) then there's no reason someone can't in this case.
  • They've seen others they personally know who got the jab and then got infected and hammered. They know the claim that it "prevents severe disease or death" is bull****. They've seen with their own eyes a close associate or family member go from no symptoms to near death in a couple of days or less and know damn well what an unvaccinated person gets when they're infected and gets hammered as we've all seen that on the TeeVee, from the punditry and in the statistics; typically you get the virus, develop symptoms and a week or more later you're in bad enough shape to go to the ER. When someone they know, who was jabbed, goes down the ****ter in 24 hours that irretrievably blows up any claim of "effective" and raises the specter of the jab making the infection worse. Those people are in the same bucket as the first if you try to force them to take it as they've seen what happened to someone else.
Biden's problem with these "mandates" is that both the second and third group are rapidly growing in size; every "infection" reported now, over 100,000 a day, is another person who has no reason to ever accept a jab. Every ten days 1 million people are added to the group that have every legal, ethical, moral and medical reason to say "**** you!" to any Covid-19 jab mandate; these people got Covid-19 and survived; they have immunity and thus the jab offers them nothing. Push them hard enough and some percentage of them may go medieval on anyone and everyone they assign blame to and no, there aren't enough cops to stop that (never mind that some cops may be among them since they've been exposed and infected as "essential workers" for the last 18 months!) if that happens.

The only remaining group of-size are the young who today cannot get the jabs due to age. The data is quite clear; these people are at severe risk of myocarditis and other potentially-fatal side effects from the jabs and that risk exceeds, for many of them, the risk of Covid itself. Yes, there are morbid children and teens; among them are those who stuffed their faces for years and are the size of a refrigerator, which we know greatly increases risk of a bad outcome. But for healthy children and teens the data is clear; Covid-19 presents a negligible risk to them of serious outcome or death but that is not true for the jabs which in fact, by the data, may put 1 in a few thousand into the hospital immediately with an unknown long-term risk of heart failure -- ten times the risk of Covid-19 itself killing them. You have to be nuts to force jabs on those people -- you'll create a whole lot of adults who may well seek vengeance if and when their kid is harmed or killed.

There are, I suspect, very few people left in the US who (1) have not taken a vaccine for Covid-19 and (2) do not fit into one of the above categories. As such a "mandate" is not only begging for serious trouble both in court and otherwise. In short it's stupid because the vast majority of those who it can reasonably help rather than hurt on-balance have taken it already.

The problem is that this was true in May and June, the NEJM study proves that antibody prevalence was sufficient to prevent any widespread outbreak of disease as of that point provided that the vaccines actually work. But -- the outbreak happened anyway and since we know prior infection is effective this means at best the jabs wear off and at worst the virus has mutated to be enhanced in those who got vaccinated.

You think not? Israel was celebrating when they started Jab #3. It was short-lived; within just a few weeks their case rate re-accelerated to the upside! So much for that theory that "just one more" will solve the problem eh? Tell me how this pattern does not implicate either evasion or, far worse, enhancement?

God help those who took the jab if that second scenario proves up -- and there is an increasingly-broad body of evidence that it indeed may be true and the virus is evolving to produce exactly that outcome. If, over time that does prove up then both the Trump and Biden Administrations, along with the pharmaceutical industry and everyone involved in both deserve to be destroyed as they will have placed over 200 million Americans at severe risk of serious disease and death by placing speed, profit and stupidity ahead of logic and science.

There's no winning outcome available that has a reasonable probability of occurring when it comes to "mandates" folks.

Sorry, that's the math.
 

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JPMorgan Concludes That Delta Variant Was "Less Infectious Than Feared'

TUESDAY, SEP 28, 2021 - 12:30 PM

Now that the Delta variant in the US has peaked in terms of new cases, hospitalizations and deaths, media fearmongering surrounding the latest round of the covid pandemic has understandably been quietly pulled from the front pages at least until such time the mu variant, or some other virulent strain du jour, makes a triumphant appearance and Fauci is again trotted across the mainstream media to distill a fresh round of fear and set the scene for a new round of restrictions and lockdowns, a cycle that will repeat at least until the mid-term elections which predictably will have to be conducted largely by mail.

And while we wait we wanted to remind readers that last week, JPMorgan made a remarkable discovery: looking at the number of delta variant infections in emerging markets, JPMorgan policy research analyst David Mackie found that "the Delta wave was much milder than expected: none of these countries saw the gains in Re that we anticipated."



This prompted JPMorgan to wonder if "the Delta variant may be less infectious than initially assumed."

Needless to say, such a finding would blow up the carefully scripted narrative promulgated by the likes of Anthony Fauci, that Delta was far more contagious and "potentially" more deadly than previous variants.

So fast forward to today when JPMorgan completes its analysis by looking at the Ro or - basic reproduction number (R0) for the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2 - for all countries, not just a handful of emerging nations. As JPM explains, R0 is important "because it is R0 that determines the underlying infectiousness of the virus, and thus what level of immunity in the population, or what manner of changes in behavior, are needed to stabilize new infections as the variant spreads."

In the note which could have tremendous implications for public health policy - assuming it ever sees the light of day - JPM's Mackie estimates what has happened to R0 in a number of countries over the period 1 May to 15 September, except for India and the UK where we started the analysis on 1 February and 1 April respectively due to the earlier arrival of the Delta variant in those two countries, as a way of gauging the pressure coming from the Delta variant.
Our method is to see how much of the change in Re over this period we can explain by developments in mobility, vaccinations and acquired immunity. What’s left unexplained is attributed to a change in R0 due to the spread of the Delta variant. These calculations are very approximate. They don’t take account of changes in non-pharmaceutical interventions, such as mask wearing, which probably eased over this period. If so, this would suggest that the increase in R0 due to the Delta variant is lower than our estimates.
The stunning results are presented in Table 1.


They show that at the global level, "the message is clear": as JPM puts it, "the increased infectiousness of the Delta variant as expressed in the implied change in R0 is very low, below the bottom end of the widely accepted range. An estimated increase in R0 of 0.76 due to the spread of the Delta variant would put the level of R0 for the Delta variant at 4.76, assuming that R0 for the Alpha variant is 4.0."

Such a "modest increase" in R0 explains why the Delta wave of infection has been so benign on average around the world. Global daily new infections picked up from around 360,000 in mid-June to around 660,000 in late August, but this wave faded fairly quickly and new infections now stand at around 380,000.

It also flies in the face of any and all previous claims that Delta was much more "contagious" than previous variants.

Looking across the world, JPMorgan finds that the modest estimated increase in R0 is not evenly distributed. On average the estimated increase in R0 in developed markets has been around 1.5, towards the bottom end of the range of 1.0 to 4.0 estimated by academics. However, across emerging markets the increase has generally been smaller on average, especially in Latin America.

According to JPM, "it is hard to fully understand the DM/EM difference." One explanation proposed by JPM is that it is "possible that under-reported infections are larger in EM. Take Brazil, for example, where the estimated increase in R0 due to the Delta variant is 0.96. If actual infections had been five times larger than reported infections, then the implied increase in R0 in Brazil would be 1.5, the same as the average increase in the US, Western Europe and Japan."

Other countries are harder to rationalize in this way. Take Indonesia, for example, where the estimated increase in R0 due to the Delta variant is 0.24. Actual infections would have to have been forty-two times greater than reported infections in order to get an implied increase in R0 in Indonesia of 1.5.

And here another stunning observation from JPM, one which also trounces the Biden admin's feverish attempts to downplay natural immunity. As JPMorgan writes, "If under-reporting of infections explains why estimates of the increase in R0 are small in some EM countries, then this is good news looking forward if we assume that immunity from infection and recovery is the same as that from vaccination."

JPMorgan concludes with the provocative observation that "the infectiousness of the Delta variant is at the lower end of the range estimated by academics early in the summer" a range which was estimated to be between 1.0 and 4.0 but in reality the number was around 1.5!
And so, with the global Re currently at close to 1.0 and falling, and the Delta variant fully absorbed, the largest US bank, "the world looks well placed to see a steady pace of infections in the coming months" JPM says, adding that "overall, the global Delta infection wave has been modest thus far and is expected to remain so."

Now if only one of the numerous "impartial", "objective" TV anchors would ask media celebrity Dr. Fauci during any of his upcoming TV appearance about the finding of this study...
 
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