CORONA Main Coronavirus thread

jesner

Veteran Member
So the title says one thing, but the last line tells the real story. Someone here has an agenda. Were the samples of patients random, or selected to produce the best result possible? What are the side effects of the drug? Someone else without bias needs to do the study or at least review the results. If I had those results, which were not statistically reliable according to the last line on the article, and I wrote a college paper touting "Success!" I would have been rightfully castigated by my prof and received a correspondingly poor grade on the paper. Is there no integrity any more?

When this drug was initially mentioned by Dr. Fauci a few weeks ago during a daily presses, I was disappointed when he said it reduced recovery from 14 days to 11 days. IIRC.
Yet, I also read of a local patient who finally "turned the corner" to recovery once they started receiving it. time will tell....
 

mzkitty

I give up.
But they're crazy at Lake of the Ozarks. Look at this one:

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Tristan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
(fair use applies)

Herd-immunity is NOT working in Sweden, claims study: Just 7% of people in Stockholm had developed Covid antibodies by end of April despite government shunning strict lockdown measures
By Joe Davies
Published: 15:22 EDT, 20 May 2020 | Updated: 12:34 EDT, 23 May 2020

  • The country's strategy was championed by Chief Epidemiologist Anders Tegnell
  • Sweden's decision not to institute a mandatory lockdown has divided opinion
  • Sweden has the most Covid-19 deaths per capita in Europe over the last week

Just 7.3 percent of people in Stockholm developed COVID-19 antibodies by late April, a study has found.

The Swedish study could fuel concern that a decision not to lock down Sweden against the pandemic may bring little herd immunity in the near future.

The strategy was championed by Chief Epidemiologist Anders Tegnell, who recommended voluntary measures against the virus.

Sweden's decision not to institute a mandatory lockdown like other countries in Europe has divided opinion at home and abroad.

Sweden's strategy of keeping most schools, restaurants, bars and businesses open exposed it to criticism

Death rates ran far higher than in Nordic neighbours, even if much lower than in countries such as Britain, Italy and France that shut down.

The number of COVID-19 patients in intensive care in Sweden has fallen by a third from the peak in late April and health authorities say the outbreak is slowing.

However, Sweden has recorded the highest number of Covid-19 deaths per capita in Europe over the last seven days.

The antibody study sought to look into the potential for herd immunity, a situation where enough people in a population have developed immunity to an infection to be able to effectively stop that disease from spreading.

The findings were roughly in line with models predicting a third of the Swedish capital's population would have had the virus by now and where at least limited herd immunity could have set in, the Swedish Health Agency said on Wednesday.

Tegnell said: 'It is a little bit lower (than expected) but not remarkably lower, maybe one or a couple of percent. It squares pretty well with the models we have.'

However, the herd immunity concept is untested for the novel coronavirus and the extent and duration of immunity among recovered patients is equally uncertain as well.

The study drew on some 1,100 tests from across the country although only figures for Stockholm were released.

While Health Agency officials have stressed herd immunity is not a goal in itself, it has also said the strategy is only to slow the virus enough for health services to cope, not suppress it altogether.

They have said that countries employing wholesale lockdowns to prevent any exposure to the coronavirus could face renewed outbreaks as restrictions were eased and be more susceptible to any second wave of the disease.

The World Health Organization has warned against pinning hopes on herd immunity. It said last week global studies had found antibodies in only 1-10 percent of the population, results in line with recent findings in Spain and France.

Bjorn Olsen, Professor of Infectious Medicine at Uppsala University, is among dozen academics who have criticised Sweden's pandemic response and labelled herd immunity a 'dangerous and unrealistic' approach to dealing with COVID-19.

'I think herd immunity is a long way off, if we ever reach it,' he told Reuters after the release of the antibody findings.

Sweden's approach, shaped by a conviction the coronavirus can be slowed but not fully suppressed, is reflected not just in an aversion to quarantines and closures but in a decision to carry out relatively little testing and contact tracing.

Tests are largely restricted to hospitalised cases and health care workers. Weekly test numbers still run at less than a third of the government's goal of 100,000, a far lower per capita rate than Sweden's Nordic peers and below that of most West European countries.

Meanwhile the death toll has continued to rise, compounded by a failure to protect the old and infirm in a country famed for its welfare state.

Helen Gluckman, 55, wept bitterly as she related how her 83-year-old father died of a COVID-19 infection contracted in a nursing home after untested patients were admitted there.

She said: 'We don't know what will happen when other countries open up, but right now one can't help but think Sweden has really failed. There are more than 3,000 dead now. That is a horrible number.'

With cases having crossed the 30,000 mark, Sweden's death toll in the pandemic has reached 3,831, more than three times the combined total of Denmark, Norway, Finland and Iceland, all nations with similar welfare systems and demographics.

While others locked down to buy time, critics like Olsen say Sweden has done 'too little, too late'. They say its laissez-faire approach, also playing down risks posed by asymptomatic spreading of COVID-19, has been catastrophic for the elderly.

The government remains adamant that Sweden's high per capita death toll did not result from the lack of a national lockdown.

Defending the strategy, Health and Social Affairs Minister Lena Hellengren said most Swedes had voluntarily minimised their social interactions and movements outside the home.

She said: 'The Swedes have really changed their behaviour.'


This and other posts could lead a person to believe that this isn't a 'normal' coronavirus.
 

Tristan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
If people are really losing their antibodies (those that have them) after six months for whatever reason, then there needs to be a serious focus on medications that CONTROL the disease instead of billions invested in vaccines that are unlikely to work (this thing is related to the Common Cold and already has dozens of variations just like colds do).

But the "big money" usually isn't in treatments (especially with existing drugs they can't patent) or cures (other than vaccines that are a big business all on their own).

I am not opposed to vaccines when they work (I do think they are probably overused especially on tiny babies and small children in the USA) but with some diseases, they are not the best immediate response and with some diseases (and this may be one of them) they can be relied upon to happen in time to really do very much (if they happen at all).


Really? No kiddin'?
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
FWIW —


ThinQing Anon
@ThinQingAnon

1. HOME RECIPE FOR HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE (HCQ):

THE DRUG THAT IS CURRENTLY TREATING THIS VIRUS…..WATCH BELOW AS I SHOW YOU THE RECIPE AND HOW TO MAKE THIS SOLUTION AT HOME, MINUS BIG PHARMAS FILLERS AND PRESERVATIVES.

2. THAT’S RIGHT……..THIS IS THE REAL REASON THAT THE DRUG COMPANIES WERE FURIOUS ABOUT THIS CURE. NOT ONLY HAS IT PROVEN TO ELIMINATE THIS VIRUS….BUT OTHERS AS WELL. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A BIG KEPT SECRET…BUT TRUMP BLEW THAT FOR THEM RIGHT AWAY.

3. WHAT IS HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE EXACTLY? IT IS NOTHING BUT QUININE. SOMETHING THAT ANYONE CAN MAKE AT HOME….AND SOMETHING THAT IS BEING MANUFACTURED EACH AND EVERY DAY IN THE FORM OF SOMETHING WE HAVE ALL SEEN AT THE GROCERY AND LIQUOR STORES………NONE OTHER THAN TONIC WATER.

4. THIS DRUG BEING USED TO TREAT THE COVID VIRUS HAS. THIS WAS NEVER SUPPOSED TO BE LEAKED OUT…BECAUSE EVEN A FULL TREATMENT REGIME OF PILLS FROM THE DOCTOR IS LESS THAN A 100.00 FOR SOMEONE THAT DOES NOT HAVE INSURANCE.

5. SOMETHING ELSE YOU MAY FIND INTERESTING IS THAT WHEN THEY CREATED THIS VIRUS, THEY ALSO PUT A STRAIN OF HIV IN IT. THIS WAS TO MAKE IT EVEN MORE FATAL. BUT... GUESS WHAT?

6. THE QUININE KILLED THAT PART OF THE AIDS VIRUS AS WELL. CAN YOU SEE NOW WHY THEY WERE SCREAMING THAT THIS WAS A DANGEROUS DRUG AND NOT TO DARE USE IT. BEHIND THE SCENE STUDIES ARE NOW COMING FORTH THAT SHOW IT BEING EFFECTIVE OTHER DISEASES AS WELL AND EVEN ON CANCERS.

7. I THINK IN THE DAYS TO COME, WE ARE GOING TO FIND OUT A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN WE EVER THOUGHT WE KNEW. IF YOU LISTENED TO OUR PRESIDENT THIS WEEK, HE SAID THAT “IN ONE YEAR, EVERY TREATMENT THAT WE ARE NOW USING IN THE HOSPITALS WILL BE OBSOLETE”. WHAT DOES HE KNOW?

8. HE KNOWS THAT THEY HAVE WITHHELD THESE CURES TO KEEP PEOPLE SICK AND TO MAKE MILLIONS OFF OF INSURANCE COMPANIES.

9. QUININE HAS MANY USES AND APPLICATIONS. IT IS ANALGESIC, ANESTHETIC, ANTIARRHYTHMIC, ANTIBACTERIAL, ANTIMALARIAL, ANTIMICROBIAL, ANTIPARASITIC, ANTIPYRETIC, ANTISEPTIC, ANTISPASMODIC, ANTIVIRAL, ASTRINGENT, BACTERICIDE, CYTOTOXIC, FEBRIFUGE, FUNGICIDE, INSECTICIDE, NERVINE,

10. STOMACHIC, TONIC…….SO YOU CAN BE SURE THAT BIG PHARMA IS SCARED TO DEATH AT THIS POINT AND SCREAMING THAT THIS DRUG DOES NOT WORK…WHEN THE ENTIRE WORLD SEES THAT IT IS WORKING.

11. IF YOU EVER FEEL A CHEST COLD COMING ON OR JUST FEEL LIKE CRAP…. MAKE YOUR OWN QUININE. IT IS MADE OUT OF THE PEELINGS OF GRAPEFRUITS AND LEMONS, …BUT ESPECIALLY GRAPEFRUITS. I WILL GIVE YOU THE RECIPE HERE AND YOU TAKE THIS CONCOCTION THROUGHOUT THE DAY…

12. OR YOU CAN MAKE A TEA OUT OF IT AND DRINK IT ALL DAY. THIS SHOULD TAKE AWAY ALL YOUR FEARS ABOUT THIS VIRUS, BECAUSE YOU NOW HAVE THE DEFENSE AGAINST IT AND MANY OTHER THINGS.

13. IF YOU TAKE ZINC WITH THIS RECIPE, THE ZINC PROPELS THE QUININE INTO YOUR CELLS FOR A MUCH FASTER HEALING.

14. HERE IS ALL YOU NEED TO DO TO MAKE YOUR VERY OWN QUININE……………………………TAKE THE RIND OF 2-3 GRAPEFRUITS. TAKE THE PEEL ONLY AND COVER IT WITH WATER ABOUT 3 INCHES ABOVE THE PEELS.PUT A GLASS LID ON YOUR POT IF YOU HAVE ONE….A METAL ONE IS FINE IF YOU DON’T.

15. LET IT SIMMER FOR ABOUT 2 HOURS. DO NOT TAKE THE LID OFF OF THE POT TILL IT COOLS COMPLETELY AS THIS WILL ALLOW THE QUININE TO ESCAPE IN THE STEAM.

16. SWEETEN THE TEA WITH HONEY OR SUGAR SINCE IT WILL BE BITTER. TAKE 1 TABLESPOON EVERY COUPLE OF HOURS TO BRING UP THE PHLEGM FROM YOUR LUNGS. DISCONTINUE AS SOON AS YOU GET BETTER.

17. PLEASE SHARE THIS WITH THOSE THAT NEED TO REDUCE FEAR AND ALLOW THEM TO SEE THAT GOD IN ALL OF HIS GLORY, PROVIDES US WITH ALL THAT WE NEED

18. JUST FOR TRUTHS SAKE, LET IT BE KNOWN THAT IN ADDITION TO THIS, DOCTORS ARE ALSO PRESCRIBING THE ANTIBIOTIC AZYTHROMICIN (ZPACK). FOR THE RECORD, I AM NOT A DOCTOR OF ANY SORTS AND ONLY OFFER THIS FROM MY OWN DATA RESEARCH.

19. I AM NOT PRESCRIBING THIS IN ANY WAY, AND IT IS UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL READING THIS TO DO WITH THIS INFORMATION WHAT THEY WANT, IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR FREEDOM FROM THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.

Thread by @ThinQingAnon: 1. HOME RECIPE FOR HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE (HCQ): THE DRUG THAT IS CURRENTLY TREATING THIS VIRUS…..WATCH BELOW AS I SHOW YOU THE RECIPE AND HOW T…


Grapefruit products contain one or more components that strongly inhibit CYP3A4 and can increase plasma concentrations of hydroxychloroquine. Consumption of grapefruit or its juice should be avoided while taking hydroxychloroquine

If you should avoid grapefruit while taking it, I don't think it is made of grapefruit?
 

inskanoot

Veteran Member

Time to get grapefruit juice back on the menu

Grapefruit juice could be the next big thing if marketers get it right suggests Caroline Whibley.
The health benefits of this wonder fruit really are encouraging.

It wasn’t long ago households regularly bought grapefruit for breakfast or drank the ‘tart’ grapefruit juice, and told themselves they were being healthy. In fact, back in the 30s the Grapefruit Diet, also called the Hollywood Diet, involved having grapefruit or grapefruit juice with every meal while cutting back on calories. People swore by it. Grapefruit has a long history with being associated with good health so where is it heading now?

‘In tests mice fed fatty foods
and juice gained 18%
less weight than others’


Lately the consumption of grapefruit juice has declined sharply, following the accidental discovery of the interaction between grapefruit juice and certain drugs, particularly statins, extensively prescribed as cholesterol reducers. Grapefruit juice was found to interfere with the absorption of the drugs in the small intestine, thus affecting their bioavailability and increasing their toxicity. Suddenly you find the juice on the no-no list of what not to consume from your doctor. However rather than spending a lifetime on statins surely we need to be teaching the public to consume food & drinks and health regimes that help them to keep a lower cholesterol – are statins a sticky plaster rather than really treating anything at all, and yes they benefit many, however . . .

Long term I think we all want to see more healthy remedies to our ills, so I’m pretty positive about grapefruit juice and think it’s one to watch out for, if we can get the marketing right this dynamo juice really has some excellent benefits according to organic associations, health specialists and the science arena . . .

Grapefruit juice helps reduce the effect of fatty food

According to scientists grapefruit juice really can help us lose weight. It is said drinking grapefruit juice when eating fatty food can help reduce weight put on by a fifth – now that is a nice statistic. They also say fruit juice could keep blood sugar levels under control. In tests mice fed fatty foods and juice gained 18% less weight than others. The research also suggested that grapefruit could be as good as prescription drugs at keeping blood sugar levels under control – a key part of managing diabetes. Professor Joseph Napoli, of the University of California, Berkeley, said: “We see all sorts of scams about nutrition.

But these results, based on controlled experiments, warrant further study of the potential health-promoting properties of grapefruit juice.” The British Dietetic Association said the fruit now needs to be thoroughly tested in humans to see if it could help with weight loss and stem the rise of obesity and diabetes.

Benefits

Grapefruit juice carries a range of health benefits, they are low in calories but are full of nutrients, and an excellent source of vitamins A and C.

Harvard Medical School states that grapefruit has a glycemic index of 25. This suggests that it does not significantly affect blood sugar and insulin levels. Many studies have suggested that increasing the consumption of plant foods such as grapefruit decreases the risk of obesity, diet, heart disease and overall mortality while. It is also said to promote a healthy complexion, increased energy, and lower overall weight.

Stroke

According to the American Heart Association, eating higher amounts of flavonoid may lower the risk of ischemic stroke for women. Flavonoids are compounds found in citrus fruits like oranges and grapefruit. The risk of ischemic stroke was 19% lower for those who consumed the highest amounts of citrus than for women who consumed the lowest amounts.

Blood pressure and heart health

The powerful nutrient combination of fiber, potassium, lycopene, vitamin C, and choline in grapefruit juice all help to maintain a healthy heart. In one study those who consumed 4069 milligrams (mg) of potassium per day had a 49% lower risk of death from ischemic heart disease compared with those who consumed less potassium. According to the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) National Nutrient Database, one grapefruit with a 3-to-3.5-inch diameter contains 139 mg potassium. Grapefruit juice is an excellent option for helping to increase the daily intake of potassium. Increasing potassium intake is also important for lowering blood pressure because of its powerful vasodilation effects. Vasodilation widens the arteries. The DASH diet, designed to reduce blood pressure through dietary options, includes grapefruit as a recommended food.

Cancer

Grapefruit juice is a rich source of antioxidants, such as vitamin C. These can help combat the formation of free radicals known to cause cancer. Lycopene intake has been linked with a decreased risk of prostrate cancer in several studies.

Digestion & hydration

The Grapefruit , because of its water and fiber content, helps to prevent constipation and promote regularity for a healthy digestive tract. Grapefruit consists of 91% water. This makes it one of the most hydrating fruits available. Grapefruit juice is also full of electrolytes.

‘The juice or grapefruit itself contains valuable and natural quinine, which is advantageous for the treatment of malaria’
Skin

Grapefruit juice has been linked to healthy skin. However, caution is advised for people who spend a lot of time in the sun.
The antioxidant vitamin C can help to fight skin damage caused by the sun and pollution, reduce wrinkles, and improve overall skin texture when eaten in food or applied to the skin. Vitamin C plays a vital role in the formation of collagen , the main support system of the skin. Regular hydration and vitamin A are also crucial for healthy-looking skin. Grapefruit provides both of these.

Treat Influenza

Grapefruit juice is a valuable remedy for influenza since it helps minimize acidity in the system. The bitter properties arising from an essence called ‘naringin’ in grapefruits tone up the system and the digestive process. Naringin is also considered a flavonoid, which is a powerful antioxidant. Antioxidants have antiviral, antifungal, antibacterial, anti-cancer, and anti-inflammatory qualities, making them one of the most important lines of defense in the immune system, protecting against influenza as well as many other serious conditions.

Treat Malaria

The juice or grapefruit itself contains valuable and natural quinine, which is advantageous for the treatment of malaria. Quinine is an alkaloid with a long history of treating malaria, as well as lupus, arthritis and nocturnal leg cramps. It is not an easy component to find in many foods, so grapefruits are a beneficial and rare example. The quinine can be easily extracted from the fruits by boiling a quarter of grapefruit and straining the pulp.

Cure Fever

The pulp or the juice of grapefruit helps patients recover quickly from fever, and it reduces the burning sensation that occurs when the body reaches a high temperature. It is also known as a way to boost the immune system against cold and other common illnesses. Grapefruit juice, when combined with water, can quench thirst very quickly and keep you hydrated for longer. Most of these benefits come from the high content of vitamin C in grapefruits, which acts as a general immune system defense system and can help the body in fighting the fever.

Promote Sleep

A glass of grapefruit juice, if consumed before going to bed, can promote healthy sleep and alleviate the irritating symptoms and repercussions of insomnia. This is due to the presence of tryptophan in grapefruits, the chemical we often associate with becoming sleepy after big meals. The levels of tryptophan in grapefruit juice enable us to nod off peacefully.

Treat Urinary Disorders

Grapefruit juice is quite rich in potassium and vitamin C, so it is one of the best treatments for issues related to urination often caused by liver, kidney or heart problems. Furthermore, its high potassium content works as a vasodilator, meaning that blood vessels and arteries relax, thereby reducing blood pressure and lessening the risk of heart attack and stroke. Also, increased levels of potassium have been associated with higher cognitive function because of increased blood and oxygen flow to the brain!

STATS
  • Revenue in the Grapefruit Juice segment amounts to US$276m in 2018. The market is expected to grow annually by 0.8% (CAGR 2018-2021).
  • From an international perspective it is shown that most revenue is generated in the United States (US$314m in 2018).
  • Sources: Science Direct, Medical News Today, Organicsfacts.net, Healthline.com, Mail Online, Statistica.com
 
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inskanoot

Veteran Member
Grapefruit products contain one or more components that strongly inhibit CYP3A4 and can increase plasma concentrations of hydroxychloroquine. Consumption of grapefruit or its juice should be avoided while taking hydroxychloroquine

If you should avoid grapefruit while taking it, I don't think it is made of grapefruit?

There’s more than one source of quinine, and it appears that grapefruit is one.

Guessing that simultaneous consumption of grapefruit/juice would affect the dosage.

Maybe thinqinganon or someone else has a better answer.
 
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marsh

On TB every waking moment
If people are really losing their antibodies (those that have them) after six months for whatever reason, then there needs to be a serious focus on medications that CONTROL the disease instead of billions invested in vaccines that are unlikely to work (this thing is related to the Common Cold and already has dozens of variations just like colds do).

But the "big money" usually isn't in treatments (especially with existing drugs they can't patent) or cures (other than vaccines that are a big business all on their own).

I am not opposed to vaccines when they work (I do think they are probably overused especially on tiny babies and small children in the USA) but with some diseases, they are not the best immediate response and with some diseases (and this may be one of them) they can be relied upon to happen in time to really do very much (if they happen at all).
I figure that, inevitably, I will get it. With age and a co-morbidity, my outcome does not bode well for a home experience. I am sheltering in place to prolong exposure until the therapeutics create better outcomes. I, also, think more should be invested in treatment vs vaccine.
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
Honey Badger don't care, he be at the beach. People just can't take it anymore. It's summer dammit !!

:lol:


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Listening to Dr. Cambell and Hansen on vit. D, (important in immunity,) being at the beach may do more good than harm. Americans, particularly blacks, Hispanics and shut ins, have a serious lack of vitamin D. Skin color regulates the amount of time the skin requires to create vit. D. A red haired Celt may take less than a half hour, while a dark skinned person may take several hours.

You also get the benefit of fresh air and the sea has calming psychological affects.
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdIIwNyB1AA
29:43 min
Vaccine Development Update
•May 24, 2020

Dr. John Campbell, RN
Oxford AZ vaccine ‘All of the 6 vaccinated monkeys treated with the Oxford vaccine became infected when challenged’ ‘That viral loads in the noses of vaccinated and unvaccinated animals were identical’ Less severe clinical symptoms than unvaccinated animals Neutralising antibody titres were low, insufficient to prevent infection Insufficient to prevent viral shedding in nasal secretions Human trials began in April with a non-vaccinated control group 2 groups now undergoing antibody studies Results in a few months

Now preparing for 30,000 subjects, including elderly and children New vaccines risk antibody-induced enhancement This effect caused serious lung damage in animals given experimental vaccines for both SARS-1 and MERS. Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, immunity and vaccine https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas... https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/05/2...

Two studies, Infection prevents reinfection. Prototype vaccines protected against SARS-CoV-2 Antibodies do provide protection, whether they are triggered by an infection or a vaccine. Study 1 Researchers infected 9 adult monkeys, noses and lungs Virus quickly spread into their upper and lower respiratory tracts All 9 developed viral pneumonia All recovered within 28 days. A week later, re-exposed, none of the animals got sick Immunity passports Study 2 35 monkeys 25 vaccinated (2 doses), 10 not vaccinated

One of six prototypes of DNA vaccines All prototype vaccines used the genetic code for portions of the protein that CoV-2 uses to invade cells All of the vaccinated monkeys developed antibodies, some at recovered monkey level 6 candidate DNA vaccines induced neutralizing antibody 3 weeks after the second vaccine dose, All monkeys inoculated with COVID-19 25 vaccinated and 10 not vaccinated None of the vaccinated monkeys developed high levels of the virus in their lungs

All 10 of the unvaccinated monkeys did 8 of the 25 vaccinated demonstrated no detectable virus at any point 17 monkeys showed low levels of virus Higher antibody levels were linked to lower viral loads Therefore, lab test for risk of infection can be developed

Questions Does this all apply to humans? How long will the naturally or vaccine acquired immunity last?
 

Plain Jane

Just Plain Jane
Searching LTCFs is a challenge, to put it mildly. If you're only interested in one county, it's not too bad but beyond that...
They should at least give sorting options for each columns. Maybe it's still a work in progress.
I explained myself poorly. It is PA that changed their format AGAIN, and no, it is not so easy to check by County. I did try the link that you provided but my poor tablet just did not navigate it well at all. I did some calculations based on the PA data that I hadn't done in several weeks.

So, in my County, 11% of the cases are in LTCF however they account for 93% of the deaths. This is why my County commissioners were among those in PA who were pushing to go Yellow in my state. We are now going to on Friday.
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np5hKnqvAl4
6:16 min
Scott Gottlieb on COVID crisis: "This isn't contained yet"
•May 24, 2020

Face the Nation

The former FDA commissioner says Americans should exercise caution as they prepare to go out in a "new normal"
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQrGADKLoR4
7:11 min
Boston Fed CEO says "it's likely to be double- digit unemployment through the end of this year"
•May 24, 2020


Face the Nation
Eric Rosengren says a vaccine is needed to have unemployment levels to return to pre-covid rates.

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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Dv8ojP4w9I
3:01 min
Public health experts worry as Americans slowly return to normal
•May 24, 2020

Face the Nation
CBS News' Chip Reid reports on the country's phased reopening during the COVID crisis.
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBQ0AWlPCWc
4:55 min
The travel industry copes with coronavirus
•May 24, 2020

CBS Sunday Morning

The hospitality and aviation sectors, which are adjusting their business practices in times of pandemic, don't expect a return to the "old normal" any time soon. CBS News travel editor Peter Greenberg talks with Hilton CEO Chris Nassetta, and Oscar Munoz, executive chairman of United Airlines, about new procedures travelers may expect.
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7AHsxYbna0
5:55 min
THEY'RE TESTING US: The Degrowth Movement & How Coronavirus Pandemic Helps Left Fight Climate Change
•May 24, 2020

Glenn Beck

Glenn explains the Degrowth Movement which its proponents describe as "a political, economic, and social movement based on ecological economics anti-consumer, and anti-capitalism."

Defenders of the movement say the only way to defeat climate change fully is if the world stops working and industrial production (airlines, automobiles, fossil fuels) no longer exist. Well, we're there, and those on the far left how are using today's coronavirus pandemic to watch and measure us to see how much of their draconian policies we'll take. They're not hiding it either: countless politicians, leaders in academia, and members of the mainstream media have already said how COVID-19 and the lockdown are proving to be beneficial for the environment and for the fight against climate change.
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
In serving on the Board of a Commission that worked on development in the first 5 years of life, and with my own grand children, I became aware of the concept of "emotional literacy." It is both human and cultural. As part of communicating emotions, we use facial expressions. It is why we school children in "happy face", "sad face", "angry face" etc.

There are more subtle cultural signals. I remember as a supervisor in the work place, that I felt discomfort at communicating with one of my Asian team members. They would not look you in the eye. To them, it was a sign of deference. To me, it was a cultural sign of dishonesty or hidden intent.

Think about how many Americans disliked burkas because the face was hidden and it made them culturally uncomfortable.

A mask significantly alters the facial palette for communication. I can see why the President does not wish to cover his face when speaking to the American people. It allows him to express his emotional content facially and, culturally, portrays an openness and honesty about the intent and content.

I am currently making masks for my family and will wear them in public if I have to go out, but I have psychological aversion to them. When I first had to wear glasses, I hated them because they created an insulated barrier between me and the world. Masks are another barrier.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1H2kZWjqTA
1:49 min
Non-Verbal Communication Tools : Non-Verbal Communication: Facial Expressions
•Oct 5, 2008

expertvillage
Facial expressions communicate a variety of emotions. Learn how facial expressions are influential in non-verbal communication from a communications and public speaking expert in this free relationship building video.

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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1uzG_EBGM
7:46 min
MicroExpressions - Reading Facial Expressions Are Better than Reading Body Language
•Dec 2, 2017


Practical Psychology

Read body language better than anyone you know...

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marsh

On TB every waking moment

Watch: Tensions Explode As Israel Blocks Aqsa Mosque On Eid Holiday During COVID-Lockdown
Sun, 05/24/2020 - 15:50

The Muslim holy day of Eid comes at the end of Ramadan, and could be somewhat comparable to Easter for Christians in terms of importance on the Islamic calendar.

The eve of Eid fell on Saturday, creating tensions at al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem as worshipers pressed their way into the area which sits atop Temple Mount, given Israeli police attempted to prevent a mass gathering amid national coronavirus lockdown measures.

The situation turned explosive in East Jerusalem as Palestinians were prevented from entering, leading to running violent clashes with police.

View: https://youtu.be/GHWi9HrSSlk
2:06 min

It comes also amid growing Palestinian anger at Israeli PM Netanyahu's plans to push forward in annexing large parts of the West Bank, notably the Jordan Valley, as part of Trump's 'deal of the century'.

And there's already been running clashes with police in and around Jerusalem related to Israeli authorities closing down places of worship - mosques, churches, and synagogues alike - amid the coronavirus pandemic.
In many places across the Gaza Strip and occupied West Bank over the weekend Palestinians reportedly performed what's called Eid al-Fitr prayers marking the holiday in open squares and streets due to pandemic safety measures.

View: https://youtu.be/nR687pBq1DA
2:43 min

Though the Muslim holiday is typically festive, it was a different story in East Jerusalem, were scores were reportedly arrested amid the clashes with Israeli police.
After Israeli authorities have declared one of Islam's holiest sites "closed" - along with local Muslim clerics - Palestinian activists declared the Israelis didn't have the authority to do so:

View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1264523017033519105

The whole region is on edge as both Hamas and PA leadership under Abbas have hinted at preparations for a new intifada, after rejecting the Trump 'peace plan' and Tel Aviv's push to annex parts of the occupied West Bank as part of the deal, which the Palestinians complain they weren't privy to in the first place in terms of negotiations and discussions.

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After running clashes in East Jerusalem a number of people were seen doing prayers at gates and checkpoints outside the Temple Mount area while face-to-face with Israeli police lines.

Controversially, it appears the Muslim clerics overseeing al-Aqsa have complied with the ban on large worship gatherings there.

This after even Mecca in Saudi Arabia closed its doors to Muslim pilgrims over the past two months for what's believed to be the first such instance in history.

[COMMENT: I wonder if mosques will be closed in CA where churches and synagogues still are closed. Sorry, still having difficulty with twitter posts.]
 
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I explained myself poorly. It is PA that changed their format AGAIN, and no, it is not so easy to check by County. I did try the link that you provided but my poor tablet just did not navigate it well at all. I did some calculations based on the PA data that I hadn't done in several weeks.

So, in my County, 11% of the cases are in LTCF however they account for 93% of the deaths. This is why my County commissioners were among those in PA who were pushing to go Yellow in my state. We are now going to on Friday.
You explained yourself really well; I didn't realize you are on a tablet. Hopefully the CMS gov site, due to come online by the end of this month, will be a lot easier to navigate.
 

marsh

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Americans Can't Wait To Leave The House, Despite Being Terrified Of The Consequences

Sun, 05/24/2020 - 15:00

The war between sacrificing your mental health to stay quarantined in hope that you will spare your physical health the trouble of the coronavirus is a war that mental health appears to be winning.

Americans across the nation are eager to finally get the hell out of the house, despite the potential consequences of the ongoing coronavirus pandemic. But at the same time, they are also scared as hell.

Things will only get more interesting over Memorial Day weekend, as much of the country begins to re-open after almost 2 months of being locked down. Numbers are starting to tick back up at vacation destinations and malls across the nation, albeit with customers now almost always donning face masks and keeping 6 feet between themselves.

Take, for instance, NYC dry cleaner Rolando Matute, who was recently quoted in a Bloomberg piece as stating: “I don’t really feel safe. I’m dealing with a lot of clothes, a lot of credit cards and a lot of customers, but I feel like I have to because I have a family. Someone has to work.”



He has moved into his basement to quarantine himself from his wife, daughters and mother, who suffers from asthma. His wife "leaves his dinner on the back patio every night, alongside the food bowls for their two cats".
“I’m like a cat, eating dinner on the patio. I don’t even go into the house anymore,” he said.
Experts are predicting another 50,000 Americans could die, on top of the 94,000 that are already dead, if states don't change their plans to ease up on social distancing.

To some people, this means it's a time to step out and test out what a test of life before the pandemic was like. For others, it means that nothing changes until there is a vaccine or cure.

When Covid-19 flares up again, it “will test our social fabric and bring these differences into relief,” according to Ayman Fanous, chair of psychiatry at Brooklyn’s SUNY Downstate Health Sciences University. Fanous continued: “Conflict is inevitable as people are just going to reach breaking point.”


Some businesses will continue to adhere strictly to face mask rules, like Joslyn Kelly's "J's Breakfast Club" in Gary, Indiana.
Kelly ended takeout service at her soul-food restaurant early in the lock-down after customers failed to follow social-distancing measures. She lost a month of revenue before she resumed May 1, and business has been brisk enough that she put up a sign asking customers to be patient.

Kelly admits only a limited number of people, and only if they’re wearing a mask. Those who aren’t can pay $2 for one, or they can order curb-side delivery from their cars. Restaurants in Lake County were allowed to start reopening for dine-in service from May 18, but Kelly plans to wait another two weeks to take that step.
But other businesses are happy to welcome all customers with open arms. Christy Hackinson, who owns The Alley on Main restaurant in Murfreesboro, Tennessee said: “They were so excited to be out at a restaurant and out in the world doing things. Mainly what we heard from people was: Thank you so much for being open, for giving us a place to go.”

One salon owner in South Carolina said she was "shocked" at the lack of guidance from the government after salons were permitted to re-open in mid-May.



A Jersey City restaurant owner also said he wanted better guidance from health officials: “We would have to change gloves between every customer. That’s a lot of gloves and a lot of time, and I don’t know whether you’ve ever been in a bar, but people aren’t too keen on waiting for drinks.”

One Alabama shop owner took note of customers' comfort levels after re-opening on April 30: “It’s just interesting to see how some people are over it and ready to get back to life, and luckily some of the states are allowing us to do just that. The mask-wearing is how we were gauging people’s comfort.

When we first opened up, 90% of people who came into the store had masks on. Now it’s less than 25%.”

Tracy Vaught, who owns a restaurant in Houston said:
“The wild card is our guests. We can control how we do things and what our expectations of each other are. But, it’s the general public that you can’t coach.”
 

marsh

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18 Million Jobs At Risk Of Permanent Loss: What Happens To Small Businesses When The Bailout Money Is Spent

Sun, 05/24/2020 - 13:45

Submitted by Nick Colas of DataTrek Research
American small businesses are going to bear the brunt of the COVID Crisis and they employ 47% of the entire US workforce. Some will bounce back quickly (e.g. health care, construction, professional services) but accommodation/food service and retail will not. There are 18 million workers attached to small businesses there. Bottom line: at this early point in the cycle, large businesses have to find their footing because that’s what will set the floor on small business activity. The sooner that happens, the sooner small business America can start to recover.



We continue to worry – a lot – about how US small business will recover from the COVID Crisis, primarily because of this segment’s impact on the American labor market. According to the latest US Small Business Administration data (2016 calendar year):
  • There are 30.7 million registered small businesses in the US, but the vast majority (24.8 million) have no employees. The important group for our purposes today is the 5.9 million small businesses that employ anywhere from 1 to 499 workers.
  • Those 5.9 million firms have an aggregate payroll of 59.9 million people, 47.3% of the American labor force.
  • Through May 16th (latest Treasury Dept data available), the Payroll Protection Program has made 4.3 million loans. This represents only 14% of total US small businesses.
On the one hand, it’s pretty impressive that the PPP has now gotten money to 73% of American small businesses that actually have a payroll; on the other, the program is only meant to be a short-term bridge loan/grant.



The question now is what happens to American small business once the PPP money is spent, and that requires a deeper dive into the data.
#1: Almost two thirds (64%) of US small business employment is concentrated in just 6 types of companies and their contribution to total US employment varies widely:

  • Health Care and Social Assistance: 8.8 million workers (45% of total US employment in this category)
  • Accommodation and Food Service: 8.3 million (61%)
  • Retail Trade: 5.6 million (35%)
  • Construction: 5.2 million (82%)
  • Professional, Scientific and Technical Services: 5.2 million (59%)
  • Manufacturing: 5.1 million (44%)
Takeaway: in terms of overall US labor market trends, small business employment in these 6 sectors is responsible for 30% of American jobs, so these are the industries to watch in the coming months as the country reopens.



#2: Small business employment in industries which 1) rely largely on face-to-face customer interaction but 2) are not heath care/assistance related and therefore must spend more time and money adopting new business practices and/or adapting to capacity limits:
  • Accommodation and food service: 8.3 million workers
  • Retail trade: 5.6 million
  • Educational services: 1.6 million
  • Real Estate and Rental and Leasing: 1.4 million
  • Art, Entertainment and Recreation: 1.4 million
  • Total: 18.3 million
Takeaway: we would argue that this 18 million worker cohort is at the most risk of permanent layoffs over the next 6 months. Some industries – education and real estate, for example – can more easily adapt to either remote operation or address health concerns with appropriate modifications. But it’s harder to see how small businesses in accommodation/food service, retail, and arts/entertainment will bounce back quickly; that’s 15 million workers. Assume 25% of those businesses fail and others have to cut back, and a 33% reduction in the workforce or 5 million jobs lost seems like a reasonable estimate.




#3: Small businesses employment percentages varies quite a bit by region across the US. Here are the 10 states that contribute most to US GDP (half the nation’s total) and their small business percentage of total employment:
  • California (49%), New York (50%), New Jersey (50%) and Washington state (51%) are at the top of the range.
  • Florida (42%) and Georgia (43%) are at the low end.
  • Texas (45%), Illinois (45%), Pennsylvania (47%) and Ohio (46%) are close to the 47% national rate.
  • As far as density of small business employment, it tends to be highest in rural areas. No surprise there, since there is often no large employer in the area. Here is the SBA map
Takeaway: slower to open states (CA, NY, NJ) have higher percentages of small business employment than those that have gone more quickly (FL and GA). The sorts of small businesses that employ millions of workers in these states look very much like the national numbers: accommodation/food service and retail are at/near the top of the list. All this adds up to a greater chance of permanent job losses at the margin for the US as a whole.



All this reads pretty bearish for the US labor market and economy generally, but we’ll close out with a more upbeat observation: large businesses drive the US economy off a cyclical bottom and as they regain their footing small businesses start to pick up as well. It is a myth that it works the other way around. We’ve seen this in many places over the decades, from restaurants in Midwest factory towns to dog walking businesses in Manhattan. Larger operations, by dint of scale and scope, do the first rehiring and spending once a recession ends. That incremental activity then flywheels into small business growth over time.

It will work the same way now – the only question is how quickly it happens.
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marsh

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Bankruptcy Tsunami Begins: Thousands Of Default Notices Are "Flying Out The Door"

Sun, 05/24/2020 - 11:55

Two weeks ago, when showing the uncanny correlation between defaults and the unemployment rates, we predicted that the number of Chapter 11 filings that is about to flood the US will be nothing short of biblical.



All that was missing was a catalyst... and according to Bloomberg that catalyst arrived in the past week or so, as retail landlords have been sending out thousands of default notices to tenants, who in turn have experienced a collapse in foot traffic, sales and cash flow due to the COVID-19 pandemic, and are simply unable to pay their debt obligations.

According to Bloomberg, restaurants, department stores, apparel merchants and specialty chains have been receiving notices from landlords - some of whom have gone as long as three months without receiving rent.

"The default letters from landlords are flying out the door," said Andy Graiser, co-president of commercial real estate company, A&G Real Estate Partners. "It’s creating a real fear in the marketplace."
Pressure from default notices and follow-up actions like locking up stores or terminating leases was cited in the bankruptcies of Modell’s Sporting Goods and Stage Stores Inc. Many chains stopped paying rent after the pandemic shuttered most U.S. stores, gambling that they could hold on to some cash before landlords demanded payment.
The stakes are enormous, and landlords are suffering, too. An estimated $7.4 billion in rent for April hasn’t been paid, or about 45% of what’s owed, according to a recent analysis by CoStar Group, which also found that just a quarter of of expected rent payments have been received by landlords.



"If the landlords don’t put a pause on their actions, you’re going to see more bankruptcies."

The question then becomes who will bail out the landlords, and whether their creditors will be just as generous in accepting forbearance.

That said, receipt of a default notice don't necessarily mean a retailers will get booted anytime soon, especially since there is nobody waiting in line for the real estate: some landlords are merely sending letters to preserve their legal rights while discussing the situation with tenants, and to assure their spot as a prepetition creditor once the default tsunami begins in earnest.

One such company, Simon Property Group Inc., says it's in active negotiations with merchants at its malls, and has been taking their tenants' financial status into account. "The bottom line is, we do have a contract and we do expect to get paid," said CEO David Simon during the company's May 11 earnings call.
"The landlords do have the legal contract," said Green Street Advisors senior analyst, Vince Tibone. "However, from a practicality standpoint, a lot of these retailers are on the brink of bankruptcy and simply cannot pay right now."

However, as noted above, landlords are of course still stuck with their own bills - including bank debts which they're expected to pay. On Thursday we reported that US malls are in a crisis which started in January as vacancies hit a record high.



And earlier Friday we reported that US retailers have accounted for the bulk of defaults over the past two months, as they were forced to temporarily close stores in response to the COVID-19 pandemic.



Retailers Neiman Marcus Group, J.Crew and J.C. Penney have already filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection this month in the United States. But the real bankruptcy wave was just waiting for the unspoken covid-related grace period to end, and for the default notices to start flying.

The letters began arriving in March and early April, “but the rate of such notices picked up materially in late April and early May,” Stage Stores said. Some landlords began locking the company out “and threatened to evict the debtors and dispose of the in-store inventory.” The company also said that "responding to and managing these default notices and related litigation outside of Chapter 11 would have been a monumentally difficult task."
"It’s not like there’s a lot of investors out there looking to buy retailers in a Chapter 11," said Grasier, adding "Landlords and retailers need to really come together and realize that this a shared pain."
Some landlords get it, according to Tom Mullaney, managing director of restructuring at real estate services firm Jones Lang LaSalle. Retailers he represents are getting default letters that are understanding and sympathetic; other landlords strike a more combative tone.

What’s more interesting is the action, or lack of it, by the landlords afterward, Mullaney said. “In a lot of cases, the letters that are being sent aren’t being followed up on,” he said - the landlords are simply preserving their legal rights. Maybe they just don't have the fund to retain lawyers?

Others, meanwhile, are just taking the law into their own hands: some property owners have run out of patience and have locked out Mullaney’s clients. “The environment is getting pretty testy and emotional on both sides of the table,” he said. “The only thing worse than being a retailer right now is being a retail landlord.”
 

marsh

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Global Tourism To Suffer Crushing Blow In 2020
Sun, 05/24/2020 - 07:35

While few industries have been spared by the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic, even fewer have been hit harder than the tourism sector. And while it is impossible to gauge the full extent of disruption brought on by COVID-19, Statista's Feliz Richter notes that the World Tourism Organization (UNWTO) published estimates on how the pandemic will affect international tourist arrivals in 2020 under three different scenarios.

Unfortunately, the pandemic’s impact on the tourism industry is expected to be devastating, even under the most optimistic of the three scenarios.

Infographic: Global Tourism to Suffer Crushing Blow in 2020 | Statista
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Assuming the opening of borders and the gradual lifting of travel restrictions begins in early July, the UNWTO expects international tourist arrivals to drop by 58 percent to 610 million this year. That would set the global travel industry back to 1998, when the number of international travelers was last so low.

It could get worse, however, if travel restrictions remain in place until later in the year.

Assuming they are eased as late as December, the UNWTO sees international tourist arrivals fall as low as 320 million, a level last seen in the mid-80s and possibly costing the industry $1+ trillion.

Prior to the coronavirus outbreak, the global tourism industry had seen almost uninterrupted growth for decades. Since 1980, the number of international arrivals skyrocketed from 277 million to nearly 1.5 billion in 2019.

As our chart shows, tourist numbers only dipped twice in the past two decades: in 2003, when the SARS outbreak led to a 0.4 percent drop in arrivals, and in 2009, when the global financial crisis caused a 4 percent drop in international travel.
 

marsh

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Billionaires In US Have Grown $434 Billion Richer During Pandemic

Sat, 05/23/2020 - 21:30

While just under 40 million Americans have filed for unemployment since mid March, America's billionaires are doing just fine - watching their fortunes soar a combined $434 billion during the same period, reports CNBC.


Leading the pack are Jeff Bezos and Mark Zuckerberg, whose fortunes grew by $34.6 and $25 billion respectively, according to the Americans for Tax Fairness and the Institute for Policy Studies' Program for Inequality - based on Forbes data for America's over 600 billionaires collected between March 18 and May 19.

Percentage-wise, Elon Musk's wealth grew 48% to $36 billion, while Zuckerberg clocked in at 46%. Bezos' wealth grew 31% to $147 billion. His ex-wife, MacKenzie Bezos, saw her wealth increase by roughly 33% to $48 billion. On average, American billionaires saw their net worth grow 15% during the two-month period from $2.948 trillion to $3.382 trillion.

Via inequality.org

Bezos, Bill Gates, Zuckerberg, Buffett and Larry Ellison saw combined gains of $76 billion.

That said, looking at YTD paints a slightly different picture:

Because the study timeline captures the stock market bottom and quick rebound, it creates a slightly sunnier picture for billionaires than the full year. For the year, Buffett’s wealth has declined by $20 billion, according to the Bloomberg Billionaire’s Index, while Gates is down by $4.3 billion. For the year, Jeff Bezos has gained $35.5 billion while Zuckerberg is up by $9 billion. -CNBC

"The surge in billionaire wealth during a global pandemic underscores the grotesque nature of unequal sacrifice," said Chuck Collins, director of the IPS Program on Inequality and co-author of the Billionaire Bonanza 2020 report. "While millions risk their lives and livelihoods as first responders and front line workers, these billionaires benefit from an economy and tax system that is wired to funnel wealth to the top."

Still, the pandemic hasn't been kind to other billionaires - whose yacht upgrades may need to wait. Those in travel and retail have taken a beating. Ralph Lauren saw his wealth drop by $100 million to $5.6 billion, while hotelier John Pritzker has seen a $34 million drop to $2.56 billion. We know, time to get a collection going.
 

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‘Up to a Dozen’ COVID-19 Variants in the United States

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As the lockdown settled in, so did the coronavirus. And then it began mutating into all sorts of local strains.

David Axe
Published May. 24, 2020 4:56AM ET

Six months after the novel coronavirus first leaped from animals to people in Wuhan, China, and three months after the virus began spreading across the United States, scientists are finally beginning to understand the overall shape of the pandemic.
Drawing samples from tens of thousands of COVID-19 patients and decoding the samples’ genomes, scientists are making so-called “phylogenetic” maps of the pandemic over time. The maps help researchers start to answer some important questions.

How did SARS-CoV-2 spread in the absence of travel bans and stay-at-home orders? How did transmission patterns change once countries, regions and cities finally began shutting down? What effect have the shut-downs had on the virus’ mutation? The answers could help inform ongoing efforts by governments, hospitals and businesses to contain the virus and treat its victims. They could also help public-health officials write the playbook for the next global pandemic response. Assuming, that is, that people actually want to learn from the current crisis.....
 

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Oregon Gov. Decrees Residents in Closed Counties Cannot Shop in Open Counties
BY JEFF REYNOLDS MAY 19, 2020 1:53 PM EST


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Oregon Governor Kate Brown briefs the media on seeing the situation at the Eagle Creek Fire along the Columbia River Gorge during a press briefing in Troutdale Ore Tuesday Sept. 5, 2017. (Chris Pietsch/The Register-Guard via AP)

Oregon Governor Kate Brown (D-Portland) said that residents of counties that have yet to reopen may not travel to open counties to get haircuts or dine in restaurants.

In an article that highlighted the confusing and often contradictory nature of Brown’s lockdown orders due to the Wuhan coronavirus pandemic, The Oregonian reported:
Can I leave the Portland area to get a haircut in another county or visit the beach?

The governor said Thursday the answer is no, although it doesn’t appear she plans to enforce that.

Brown asked Portland-area residents to hold tight and resist the urge to drive to another county to get a haircut, dine out at a restaurant or visit a tourist sites.

“I know this is really hard,” Brown said. “I know many of us are really wanting to get our hair done, get our haircut, whatever you need to do, but we are asking folks in the metro area to be thoughtful of their fellow Oregonians and to stay home and limit their travel to essential need. … We obviously don’t want to overwhelm the rest of Oregon by traveling outside the metro area.”

Brown also said police won’t be stopping Portlanders who are heading out for a visit to the coast, but she asked that metro area residents respect her direction, which is meant to lessen the spread of COVID-19.
Of course, Brown’s lockdown orders have confused Oregonians since they began. It turns out that many retail outlets shut down when they didn’t have to do so.

As we approach the tail end of the pandemic, and as Oregon has consistently ranked in the bottom five states in terms of infections and deaths, Brown’s scattershot approach to the virus has raised more questions than answers.
 

marsh

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‘How Could the CDC Make That Mistake?’

The government’s disease-fighting agency is conflating viral and antibody tests, compromising a few crucial metrics that governors depend on to reopen their economies. Pennsylvania, Georgia, Texas, and other states are doing the same.
ALEXIS C. MADRIGALROBINSON MEYERMAY 21, 2020

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The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is conflating the results of two different types of coronavirus tests, distorting several important metrics and providing the country with an inaccurate picture of the state of the pandemic.

We’ve learned that the CDC is making, at best, a debilitating mistake: combining test results that diagnose current coronavirus infections with test results that measure whether someone has ever had the virus. The upshot is that the government’s disease-fighting agency is overstating the country’s ability to test people who are sick with COVID-19. The agency confirmed to The Atlantic on Wednesday that it is mixing the results of viral and antibody tests, even though the two tests reveal different information and are used for different reasons.

This is not merely a technical error. States have set quantitative guidelines for reopening their economies based on these flawed data points.

Several states—including Pennsylvania, the site of one of the country’s largest outbreaks, as well as Texas, Georgia, and Vermont—are blending the data in the same way. Virginia likewise mixed viral and antibody test results until last week, but it reversed course and the governor apologized for the practice after it was covered by the Richmond Times-Dispatch and The Atlantic. Maine similarly separated its data on Wednesday; Vermont authorities claimed they didn’t even know they were doing this.

The widespread use of the practice means that it remains difficult to know exactly how much the country’s ability to test people who are actively sick with COVID-19 has improved.

“You’ve got to be kidding me,” Ashish Jha, the K. T. Li Professor of Global Health at Harvard and the director of the Harvard Global Health Institute, told us when we described what the CDC was doing. “How could the CDC make that mistake? This is a mess.”

Viral tests, taken by nose swab or saliva sample, look for direct evidence of a coronavirus infection. They are considered the gold standard for diagnosing someone with COVID-19, the disease caused by the virus: State governments consider a positive viral test to be the only way to confirm a case of COVID-19.

Antibody tests, by contrast, use blood samples to look for biological signals that a person has been exposed to the virus in the past.

A negative test result means something different for each test. If somebody tests negative on a viral test, a doctor can be relatively confident that they are not sick right now; if somebody tests negative on an antibody test, they have probably never been infected with or exposed to the coronavirus. (Or they may have been given a false result—antibody tests are notoriously less accurate on an individual level than viral tests.) The problem is that the CDC is clumping negative results from both tests together in its public reporting.

Mixing the two tests makes it much harder to understand the meaning of positive tests, and it clouds important information about the U.S. response to the pandemic, Jha said. “The viral testing is to understand how many people are getting infected, while antibody testing is like looking in the rearview mirror.

The two tests are totally different signals,” he told us. By combining the two types of results, the CDC has made them both “uninterpretable,” he said.

The public-radio station WLRN, in Miami, first reported that the CDC was mixing viral and antibody test results. Pennsylvania’s and Maine’s decisions to mix the two tests have not been previously reported.

Kristen Nordlund, a spokesperson for the CDC, told us that the inclusion of antibody data in Florida is one reason the CDC has reported hundreds of thousands more tests in Florida than the state government has. The agency hopes to separate the viral and antibody test results in the next few weeks, she said in an email.

But until the agency does so, its results will be suspect and difficult to interpret, says William Hanage, an epidemiology professor at Harvard. In addition to misleading the public about the state of affairs, the intermingling “makes the lives of actual epidemiologists tremendously more difficult.”

“Combining a test that is designed to detect current infection with a test that detects infection at some point in the past is just really confusing and muddies the water,” Hanage told us.

The CDC stopped publishing anything resembling a complete database of daily test results on February 29. When it resumed publishing test data last week, a page of its website explaining its new COVID Data Tracker said that only viral tests were included in its figures. “These data represent only viral tests. Antibody tests are not currently captured in these data,” the page said as recently as May 18.

Yesterday, that language was changed. All reference to disaggregating the two different types of tests disappeared. “These data are compiled from a number of sources,” the new version read. The text strongly implied that both types of tests were included in the count, but did not explicitly say so.

The CDC’s data have also become more favorable over the past several days. On Monday, a page on the agency’s website reported that 10.2 million viral tests had been conducted nationwide since the pandemic began, with 15 percent of them—or about 1.5 million—coming back positive. But yesterday, after the CDC changed its terms, it said on the same page that 10.8 million tests of any type had been conducted nationwide. Yet its positive rate had dropped by a percent.

On the same day it expanded its terms, the CDC added 630,205 new tests, but it added only 52,429 positive results.

This is what concerns Jha. Because antibody tests are meant to be used on the general population, not just symptomatic people, they will, in most cases, have a lower percent-positive rate than viral tests. So blending viral and antibody tests “will drive down your positive rate in a very dramatic way,” he said.

The absence of clear national guidelines has led to widespread confusion about how testing data should be reported. Pennsylvania reports negative viral and antibody tests in the same metric, a state spokesperson confirmed to us on Wednesday. The state has one of the country’s worst outbreaks, with more than 67,000 positive cases. But it has also slowly improved its testing performance, testing about 8,000 people in a day. Yet right now it is impossible to know how to interpret any of its accumulated results.

Texas, where the rate of new COVID-19 infections has stubbornly refused to fall, is one of the most worrying states (along with Georgia). The Texas Observer first reported last week that the state was lumping its viral and antibody results together. On Tuesday, Governor Greg Abbott denied that the state was blending the results, but the Dallas Observer reports that it is still doing so.
While the number of tests per day has increased in Texas, climbing to more than 20,000, the combined results mean that the testing data are essentially uninterpretable. It is impossible to know the true percentage of positive viral tests in Texas. It is impossible to know how many of the 718,000 negative results were not meant to diagnose a sick person. The state did not return a request for comment, nor has it produced data describing its antibody or viral results separately. (Some states, following guidelines from the Council of State and Territorial Epidemiologists, report antibody-test positives as “probable” COVID-19 cases without including them in their confirmed totals.)

Georgia is in a similar situation. It has also seen its COVID-19 infections plateau amid a surge in testing. Like Texas, it reported more than 20,000 new results on Wednesday, the majority of them negative. But because, according to The Macon Telegraph, it is also blending its viral and antibody results together, its true percent-positive rate is impossible to know. (The governor’s office did not return a request for comment.)

These results damage the public’s ability to understand what is happening in any one state. On a national scale, they call the strength of America’s response to the coronavirus into question. The number of tests conducted nationwide each day has more than doubled in the past month, rising from about 147,000 a month ago to more than 413,000 on Wednesday, according to the COVID Tracking Project at The Atlantic, which compiles data reported by state and territorial governments. In the past week, the daily number of tests has grown by about 90,000.

At the same time, the portion of tests coming back positive has plummeted, from a seven-day average of 10 percent at the month’s start to 6 percent on Wednesday.

“The numbers have outstripped what I was expecting,” Jha said. “My sense is people are really surprised that we’ve moved as much as we have in such a short time period. I think we all expected a move and we all expected improvement, but the pace and size of that improvement has been a big surprise.”

The intermingling of viral and antibody tests suggests that some of those gains might be illusory. If even a third of the country’s gain in testing has come by expanding antibody tests, not viral tests, then its ability to detect an outbreak is much smaller than it seems. There is no way to ascertain how much of the recent increase in testing is from antibody tests until the most populous states in the country—among them Texas, Georgia, and Pennsylvania—show their residents everything in the data.
 

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Certain areas across America are reporting "an increase in rodent activity," as rats search for sources of food other than restaurant dumpsters amid the coronavirus pandemic, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
 
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