I hope your family does not come down with the virus. These are difficult days. Prayers for you and yours.
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This is really nothing new and it happens to some people with all viruses. I remember as a kid hearing mom and the neighbors talking about so-and-so who had been real sick and was getting better but took what they called a "setback" or "relapse".
To stop families from shopping. I work at Meijer....you don't need 3 adults and 3 kids to wander aimlessly thru the store for 2 hours and purchase 2 frozen pizzas. Pick 1 person to shop for the family, everyone else stays home or in the car.
I didn't drink the stuff.
Doughboy42
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I simply find my comfort in the words "Thy Will be done". I believe He does answer our prayers, not always in the way we ask. I trust in His Wisdom.
Masterchief117
I'm all about the doom
Well, back in our farming grandparent's day, those kids, once they got big enough, were doing various chores/helping. Also, if they didn't, they got their asses lit up. Everyone knew to do what Mom and Dad told them to do. It wasn't this parenting by negotiating crap like today.
EMICT
Veteran Member
Many did, that's why the 'original' formula was changed. I used to, and still do, abhor the smell of listerine laced vomit.
It was horrible even its advocates hated the taste but for me it was effective.
Quiet Man
Nothing unreal exists
I am wondering the same; that 'recovery' is reduction of the viral load below a key threshold that allows symptoms to disappear, but not elimination; able to reactivate when stress or other factors are favorable to the virus; say like HIV behaves. Much we do not yet know.
Is that because there are (supposedly) HIV proteins in SAR-Cov-2?
Macgyver
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Wasn't that an oops all along? Using the population density of a city for the whole country?
I know someone that gets the chicken pocks every few years. She never got immune.
ainitfunny
Saved, to glorify God.
I wish you would reread my comment, my whole aim was to "lighten up" and I did not condemn the appearance of a bunny. I in fact added an even greater Joy, one desperately needed by worried children in the midst of this epidemic obvious, even to the 2 or 3 year olds that "something is really bad, really wrong" because everyone has suddenly changed their behavior and all the rules changed for them overnight. They need to be reassured that there is not just mom and dad but an all loving and powerful God that nothing, absolutely nothing, not even death can separate them from their Heavenly Father's Love and care and protection.
Tom McDowell
BAMN
Italy records 604 new Covid-19 deaths
Angela Giuffrida
Deaths from coronavirus in Italy rose by 604 on Tuesday, although the country marked the lowest day-to-day increase in new infections since it was quarantined, Angela Giuffrida reports.
New cases rose by 0.9% to 880, and that number was outstripped by the 1,555 increase in the number of people who recovered.
To date, the overall number of cases in Italy has reached 135,586, including 17,127 deaths and 24,392 recovered.
A dog passes by a closed restaurant in Rome on Tuesday Photograph: Mauro Scrobogna/AP
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Angela Giuffrida
Deaths from coronavirus in Italy rose by 604 on Tuesday, although the country marked the lowest day-to-day increase in new infections since it was quarantined, Angela Giuffrida reports.
New cases rose by 0.9% to 880, and that number was outstripped by the 1,555 increase in the number of people who recovered.
To date, the overall number of cases in Italy has reached 135,586, including 17,127 deaths and 24,392 recovered.
A dog passes by a closed restaurant in Rome on Tuesday Photograph: Mauro Scrobogna/AP
UK prime minister in intensive care as confirmed cases in Africa pass 10,000 – as it happened
UK foreign secretary to lead country; Japan declares state of emergency; China reports no deaths from Covid-19. This blog is now closed
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IT IS GETTING BAD WHERE I LIVE. COLUMBIANA, COUNTY OHIO. THE FEDERAL PRISON WHICH IS TEN MILES FROM ME IS A PETRI DISH. THE GOVERNOR HAS SENT IN THE NATIONAL GUARD TO HELP OUT TILL THE FEDS CAN SEND MORE HELP. THEIR ARE NOT ENOUGH ME4DICAL PEOPLE AND NOT ENOUGH GUARDS BECAUSE THE HAVE TO SEND TWO GUARDS FOR EACH PRISONER THAT HAS TO GO TO A LOCAL HOSPITAL. THERE ARE ONLY TWO HOSPITALS IN COLUMBIANA COUNTY.
Original Listerine essentially contained alcohol and thymol... the main component of essential oil of thyme. Thyme and oregano essential oils are quite similar in their effectiveness against bacteria (and possibly viruses)
Summerthyme
mzkitty
I give up.
Video. They were chomping at the bit:
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Well, chickenpox is different. It lingers in the body forever. In most people who grtva recurrence, it shows up as Shingles, but occasionally, some develop chickenpox again.
Summerthyme
Nightingale
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We have a whole house fan now. So as you know it pulls air from outside to the inside via open windows.
I’m concerned that it will suck in the virus as people are constantly walking by on the sidewalk.
Would you be concerned?
Quiet Man
Nothing unreal exists
I do not know if what I said is fact; just wondering. But yes, that is part of why I wonder; that and because of a description of how this works in bats as per ClifH, and that the bat point-of-delivery mechanism of Vitamin-C kept it in check as long as it was working, but the bats died as a consequence of the virus reactivating if Vitamin-C fell too low.
I found your comment (re the malaria drug) interesting for the same reason.
P.S. He has been very prolific these past few days. Many videos being posted to his YT channel.
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Kim99
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I’m praying that your family does not have this virus and that everyone is calm and at peace.
Bps1691
Veteran Member
Early on there were a few reports that said the analysis of coronavirus genome showed some aids like similarities:
Chinese doctors say coronavirus ‘like a combination of SARS and AIDS’, can cause irreversible lung damage
Coronavirus ‘like a combination of SARS and AIDS’
Chinese doctors say autopsies of coronavirus victims suggest the deadly illness is “like a combination of SARS and AIDS” that can cause “irreversible” lung damage even if the patient recovers.
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It was my understanding that HIV infected individuals require lifelong medication. If this COVID-19 is similar and screws with the immune systems, it would seem it would be as you suggest- that it can flare up again without some type of medical maintenance.
I'm sure it can happen but most of us had the chicken pox as kids and never got it again except as shingles. My wife has shingles and her doctor said they generally break out when your immune system is weak. Probably true because she was just recovering from a knee replacement.
I decided to put this here rather than a new thread since I started this issue here.
Chicago's Essex Inn -- suspicious activity
the other day reported that a hotel named Essex Inn was closed to the public and closed for normal business. There were signs on all the doors indicating that Chicago Police and Fire were the only people that would be admitted. I have been walking past there now every day to watch for further developments.
Yesterday, there were a lot of marked and unmarked cars parked on that street. There were also other cars with signs in the window saying "health care worker." There was an unmarked cop sitting at the end of the block apparently running security for whatever "operation" was occurring. There was a white panel truck parked at the curb. A guy was unloading a pallet that contained boxes clearly marked N95. No clue needed here....
Today. There were signs everywhere pointing to the entrance. On the entrance side there were new signs on the windows and doors indicating that CPD and CFD personnel should sign in. There was also an addition on the sign that indicated that walkins were not allowed -- appointment only. As I walked past the window I could see there were CPD inside wearing masks and gloves. There were also a number of females (nurses????) wearing full PPE gear including face shields. they were all standing as if they were waiting arrivals. This is the first day that I've seen people in the hotel lobby. There were also a number of folding tables along the outside wall.
It will be interesting to see how this develops.
Chicago's Essex Inn -- suspicious activity
the other day reported that a hotel named Essex Inn was closed to the public and closed for normal business. There were signs on all the doors indicating that Chicago Police and Fire were the only people that would be admitted. I have been walking past there now every day to watch for further developments.
Yesterday, there were a lot of marked and unmarked cars parked on that street. There were also other cars with signs in the window saying "health care worker." There was an unmarked cop sitting at the end of the block apparently running security for whatever "operation" was occurring. There was a white panel truck parked at the curb. A guy was unloading a pallet that contained boxes clearly marked N95. No clue needed here....
Today. There were signs everywhere pointing to the entrance. On the entrance side there were new signs on the windows and doors indicating that CPD and CFD personnel should sign in. There was also an addition on the sign that indicated that walkins were not allowed -- appointment only. As I walked past the window I could see there were CPD inside wearing masks and gloves. There were also a number of females (nurses????) wearing full PPE gear including face shields. they were all standing as if they were waiting arrivals. This is the first day that I've seen people in the hotel lobby. There were also a number of folding tables along the outside wall.
It will be interesting to see how this develops.
3 Dead, 20 Elkton Inmates Hospitalized, Staff ‘Angry’
By Jo Ann Bobby-Gilbert | April 5, 2020
Updated 1:36 p.m. with information about purported video from an inmate shown this morning by CBS News.
LISBON, Ohio — As the number of positive COVID-19 cases in Columbiana County increased Sunday, so did the number of deaths at the Federal Correction Institution Elkton, where a third inmate death was reported.
On Sunday afternoon, the Ohio Department of Health reported 42 positive cases of COVID-19 in Columbiana County, the disease spread by coronavirus, 26 hospitalizations and five deaths from the virus in Columbiana County.
Twenty of the individuals hospitalized are inmates at the federal prison, according to the president of the union that represents most employees there.
Laura Fauss, public information officer for the Columbiana County General Health District, said Sunday, “We have been working with the prison and hope to be able to release additional prison information soon,” referring those with other questions pertaining to the facility to the Federal Bureau of Prisons website at BOP.gov.
According to a Saturday release from the BOP, inmate Frank McCoy, 76, died Thursday at an area hospital from COVID-19 after having first reported March 26 to the prison’s in-house medical services department. McCoy was transported to a local hospital where he was treated due to an inability to maintain oxygen saturation, but his condition declined. He was placed on a ventilator and later died.
As with the two previous inmate deaths from the prison, the BOP reported McCoy had long-term, pre-existing medical conditions listed by the Centers for Disease Control and prevention for developing more severe COVID-19 disease.
McCoy was serving a 121-month sentence for possession of child pornography and had been at the facility since Sept. 6, 2017.
FCI Elkton is a low-security facility that currently houses 2,040 male offenders with an adjacent Federal Satellite Low (FSL) that houses 417 low-security male offenders.
All staff members at the prison have been ordered by the Columbiana County Health Department to self-quarantine at home, according to Joseph Mayle, president of the Law Enforcement Officers Union governing the majority of prison employees. The quarantine order came via a March 31 letter from health commissioner Wesley Vins, who said since individuals associated with the prison – presumably inmates – have tested positive for COVID-19, personnel must maintain self-quarantine protocol, with all travel and visitation prohibited except for work duties at the facility.
The employees were ordered to not leave their home unless going to work or obtaining medical treatment, not to use public transportation, to have no visitors to their homes, to wear a mask for any medical appointment and around their family members at home and other hygiene measures.
According to Mayle, three staff members have tested positive for the virus, but he was not at liberty to say if they are hospitalized.
Mayle says in addition to the three inmate deaths, 18 inmates are in quarantine, 82 are in isolation after showing symptoms and 20 are hospitalized, although he declined to identify at which medical facilities.
The BOP website indicated Sunday that seven inmates at Elkton had tested positive but did not list a number for staff members testing positive.
“A lot of staff are anxious. They’re angry. We’re now working 12 (hours) on, 12 (hours) off,” Mayle said, due to the high number of hospitalized inmates, since even those on a ventilator must be in control of a corrections officer at all times.
Among other concerns, Mayle says he has an issue with the BOP not providing paid emergency leave to those staff members off work from COVID-19, who instead must use their allotted sick leave.
“Even when we’re forced to work, we don’t mind doing our job. But, if they’re putting us in a dangerous situation, and we get sick, they make us use our own leave. There have been laws passed, but they’re excluding us from all of it,” Mayle said.
The BOP has hired about 40 new staff members in the past year, and Mayle said many of those have not yet accumulated 14 days of sick leave to use if they are forced into a two-week quarantine.
“We’re fighting it,” he said, but pointed out that will be a long process which won’t help workers in the short term.
The warden and administrative staff at Elkton are doing everything they can in the COVID-19 situation, he said, putting the blame on the BOP for staff members’ plight. Mayle is also concerned about the danger to staff members’ families, saying, “Any day I go to work, I know I’m putting my life on the line, but at no time did I know I might be bringing that home to my family.”
Within a few weeks, he said, “We’ll be without PPE gear. That’s not up to the warden. That’s up to the regional director (to ensure is in place). They put in the order. If we get it, we get it.”
He says they initially had five test kits for nearly 2,500 inmates, saying, “It’s a joke.”
Calls to the Elkton facility were unanswered Sunday. An email was left for comment with no reply at this time.
Also concerned about what is happening at the Elkton facility is one mother whose son is incarcerated there and set for release later this summer. Their identities are being withheld for this article.
Although her son is in his 30s, unlike the other three elderly inmates who died from the virus, this mother said that, like those victims, he has a chronic health condition she fears could make him particularly susceptible.
“He called me concerned and asked, ‘Did you hear there was a death?’ Then there was another one,” she said with fear in her voice. “He’s just a little nervous because they’re just handing out masks. They don’t have all the testing they need. It’s just a big Petri dish. I asked if he was able to use sanitizer and he was able to get a little from the commissary.”
She continues, “Sometimes, the inmates get lost in the shuffle, but (prison officials) want to make sure everyone is being treated and cared for and getting what they need. It’s not just the inmates. They want to keep the workers safe as well, and the community when (prisoners) are released.”
Both mother and son are holding out hope this week might bring some good news after U.S. Attorney General William Barr ordered federal prison officials to step up efforts to release inmates at three prisons – including Elkton – where outbreaks of coronavirus have been seen.
Barr has suggested home confinement, and this mother said her son will return home down south if released early. He is serving a drug-related sentence and she believes he will qualify as one of the nonviolent offenders being considered for release. But, so far, she said, he has not heard of any such release. “I’m hoping by Monday he’ll get word from his counsel on how they’re moving prisoners into quarantine so they can be released. He’ll come back here. He’ll be here at home. This has been a long, long journey,” she said.
A video received Sunday night by the Business Journal and shown on CBS News Monday morning purportedly was recorded from inside the prison by an inmate wearing a hospital mask.
In the video, the man talks about the on-going COVAID-19 crisis and how it is affecting inmates, at one point pulling a blanket from another male lying in bed, with a dangling face mask, who he says, “Can’t even breathe.”
Saying he is “clean” from the virus himself, with only a year to go on his sentence, this narrator claims, “These (inmates) in here dying left and right.” At some points, he removes the mask while making his points.
The video is laced with profanity, and having not yet proven its veracity, the Business Journal has decided not to publish it in its entirety.
Related stories:
- April 2, 2020: Elkton Inmate Tested for COVID-19 after Death
- April 3, 2020: Second Elkton Prison Inmate Dies from COVID-19
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LISBON, Ohio -- As the number of positive COVID-19 cases in Columbiana County increased Sunday, so did the number of deaths at the Federal Correction Institution Elkton, where a third inmate death was reported.
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Updated county-by-county COVID-19 cases
by WTOV9.comTuesday, April 7th 2020
Columbiana County has reported 60 coronavirus cases with five deaths.
Belmont County’s count is up to 24 cases and one death.
As for other counties in Ohio, Tuscarawas County has 23 cases, Jefferson has 15, Carroll has nine, Monroe County has two and Guernsey has one.
Harrison and Noble counties still have no recorded cases.
In West Virginia, Ohio County has 18 cases, followed by Hancock with six and Marshall with three. Wetzel County has three cases and Brooke County reported its first case on Monday.
Tyler County still has no cases recorded at this time.
*Note: Marshall County announced the first two cases have completed quarantine.
Updated county-by-county COVID-19 cases
Columbiana County has reported 60 coronavirus cases with five deaths. Belmont County’s count is up to 25 cases, four are hospitalized and one has died. Eight people have recovered. As for other counties in Ohio, Tuscarawas County has 23 cases, Jefferson has 15, Carroll has nine, Monroe County...
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Can you imagine if Wuhan COVID-19 cases/deaths spike again now that their lockdown has reportedly ended? I doubt we would see many other places opening back up anytime soon if that were to happen.
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LOCKDOWN LIFTED IN WUHAN CHINA, CROWDS RUSH TO TRAINS TO LEAVE CITY - NYT
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LOCKDOWN LIFTED IN WUHAN CHINA, CROWDS RUSH TO TRAINS TO LEAVE CITY - NYT
coalcracker
Veteran Member
Along similar lines, I found myself wondering how all those folks who are having affairs with co-workers from the office are doing? Can't even do face-time much, you know, with the spouse around all the time.
Tough times, eh?
bw
Fringe Ranger
Cold turkey withdrawal, so to speak.
Galoutofdixie
Contributing Member
Kind of sounds like they are turning the Essex Inn into some kind of aux. Covid hospital? Maybe for patients from a prison or jail, since they have to have corrections officers to guard them? Keeps them from being underfoot in a regular hospital setting.
Just a thought, since I obviously don't know what's going on there.
Doomer Doug
TB Fanatic
Now the pc bs starts. The decline in new cases is because the virus is racist and is killing off blacks more than is pc. China is insane to let hordes storm out of Wuhan
We are just getting started in terms of this pandemic. All this talk of peaks and then what, everybody gets their job back 4 days after that?
We will dealing with this for the rest of our lives AND NOBODY WILL LIVE IN THIRD WORLD CESSPOOLS LIKE NEW YORK CITY IF THEY HAVE THE MONEY TO PERMANENTLY LEAVE.
We are just getting started in terms of this pandemic. All this talk of peaks and then what, everybody gets their job back 4 days after that?
We will dealing with this for the rest of our lives AND NOBODY WILL LIVE IN THIRD WORLD CESSPOOLS LIKE NEW YORK CITY IF THEY HAVE THE MONEY TO PERMANENTLY LEAVE.
Tom McDowell
BAMN
Report: Wuhan Funeral Homes Burned Coronavirus Victims Alive
Virginia Mayo/AP PhotoFrances Martel7 Apr 2020
Locals in Wuhan, where the Chinese coronavirus pandemic originated, have heard screams coming from funeral home furnaces, and some treated in hospitals say they saw workers put living coronavirus patients in body bags, Radio Free Asia (RFA) reported on Monday.
RFA noted that it could not independently verify that the Chinese Communist Party was burning coronavirus patients alive, nor has the Communist Party confirmed or denied the rumors. Yet the rumors persist that, to make room for new patients in Wuhan’s overcrowded hospitals, medical staff chose older patients less likely to survive the infection and shipped them to incinerators while they were still alive and conscious.
RFA quoted a source “close to the funeral industry” identified only as Ma who said that he had heard reports of “people restrained and forced into body bags when they were still moving.”
“Some people are saying that … there are video clips of screams coming from funeral homes, from inside the furnaces … which tells us that some people were taken to the funeral homes while they were still alive,” Ma added.
Ma also noted the existence of video testimony from an anonymous older woman who had been treated at a Wuhan hospital, presumably for Chinese coronavirus.
“One old lady was saying that they put one guy into … a body bag when he wasn’t even dead yet, and took him off to the crematorium because there was no way of saving him,” Ma told RFA.
Video of an older woman speaking anonymously to a camera began circulating on social media in February in which she said she witnessed a patient next to her at a Wuhan hospital stuffed into a body bag while still alive.
“He’s not dead, his feet and hands are still moving,” the woman says, “[They] wrapped him in a plastic body bag and zipped it up.”
According to New Tang Dynasty, a broadcaster affiliated with the persecuted Chinese Falun Gong movement, the woman spoke with a Wuhan accent, suggesting she was a native of the central Chinese city.
View: https://youtu.be/DU5Vu7XBpzg
The Taiwanese outlet Taiwan News traced the origin of the video to a Chinese student group called “Youth Production,” who reportedly uploaded the video on February 24. Taiwan News noted that the woman claimed to have suffered from coronavirus symptoms but, as she was in her 60s, she did not suffer severe symptoms, unlike the man taken away, who she estimated was in his 70s.
“She said that the man was weak but was still breathing when medical workers ‘bound his head’ and then his hands and feet, which were ‘still moving,’” Taiwan News reported, noting that she also lamented that the hospital where she received care had no other treatments available for coronavirus patients besides oxygen. In the West, doctors have begun experimenting with several drug mixtures, one of which — a combination of antibiotics and hydroxychloroquine, a drug used to treat lupus and malaria — has generated optimism in American hospitals.
The woman said she felt older patients at the hospital were treated “like dead dogs.”
Neither Taiwan News nor RFA could independently confirm the reports of Wuhan residents being burned alive.
The Chinese Communist Party claims that, as of Tuesday, it has documented 82,718 cases of coronavirus nationwide and 3,335 deaths across the country. The vast majority of these, 3,212 deaths, were recorded in Hubei province. Wuhan is the capital of Hubei.
Multiple reports citing sources in Wuhan’s seven funeral homes dispute this claim, estimating that the real death toll in the city is as much as ten times higher than China’s official nationwide death toll. Reports of hundreds of bodies cremated in some funeral homes began surfacing in February, at the height of the epidemic in the city. Government officials did not allow residents to pick up the remains of their relatives until late March, however, as the strict lockdown that saw government officials welding Wuhan residents in their homes was still ongoing.
When the funeral homes opened to distributed ashes two weekends ago, witnesses estimated that some funeral homes were distributing as many as 5,000 sets of remains a day. Estimates as to the number of sets of remains distributed last week in Wuhan range from 30,000 to 46,000 people.
“There are suspicions that many people died in their homes without being diagnosed and, at first, there were no kits to do the test,” an unnamed resident said in a report last week. “Nobody in Wuhan believes the official numbers. The real one, only they know.”
Ma, the funeral home source speaking to RFA in its report on Monday, said that Wuhan was cremating so many bodies at some point that some incinerators broke down, resulting in cremators placing multiple bodies in one incinerator at a time to keep up with the sheer amount of remains. The result has been several reported incidents of people receiving urns with ashes featuring items they do not recognize that clearly did not belong to their loved ones.
“A resident of Wuhan’s Jiang’an district surnamed Liu said she had found a man’s belt clasp in the urn she was given, supposedly containing her mother’s ashes,” RFA noted. “And a resident of Hongshan district said he had found the remains of ceramic dental crown, denture or implant in the urn labeled with his father’s name, even though his father had never had such a thing fitted.”
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Virginia Mayo/AP PhotoFrances Martel7 Apr 2020
Locals in Wuhan, where the Chinese coronavirus pandemic originated, have heard screams coming from funeral home furnaces, and some treated in hospitals say they saw workers put living coronavirus patients in body bags, Radio Free Asia (RFA) reported on Monday.
RFA noted that it could not independently verify that the Chinese Communist Party was burning coronavirus patients alive, nor has the Communist Party confirmed or denied the rumors. Yet the rumors persist that, to make room for new patients in Wuhan’s overcrowded hospitals, medical staff chose older patients less likely to survive the infection and shipped them to incinerators while they were still alive and conscious.
RFA quoted a source “close to the funeral industry” identified only as Ma who said that he had heard reports of “people restrained and forced into body bags when they were still moving.”
“Some people are saying that … there are video clips of screams coming from funeral homes, from inside the furnaces … which tells us that some people were taken to the funeral homes while they were still alive,” Ma added.
Ma also noted the existence of video testimony from an anonymous older woman who had been treated at a Wuhan hospital, presumably for Chinese coronavirus.
“One old lady was saying that they put one guy into … a body bag when he wasn’t even dead yet, and took him off to the crematorium because there was no way of saving him,” Ma told RFA.
Video of an older woman speaking anonymously to a camera began circulating on social media in February in which she said she witnessed a patient next to her at a Wuhan hospital stuffed into a body bag while still alive.
“He’s not dead, his feet and hands are still moving,” the woman says, “[They] wrapped him in a plastic body bag and zipped it up.”
According to New Tang Dynasty, a broadcaster affiliated with the persecuted Chinese Falun Gong movement, the woman spoke with a Wuhan accent, suggesting she was a native of the central Chinese city.
The Taiwanese outlet Taiwan News traced the origin of the video to a Chinese student group called “Youth Production,” who reportedly uploaded the video on February 24. Taiwan News noted that the woman claimed to have suffered from coronavirus symptoms but, as she was in her 60s, she did not suffer severe symptoms, unlike the man taken away, who she estimated was in his 70s.
“She said that the man was weak but was still breathing when medical workers ‘bound his head’ and then his hands and feet, which were ‘still moving,’” Taiwan News reported, noting that she also lamented that the hospital where she received care had no other treatments available for coronavirus patients besides oxygen. In the West, doctors have begun experimenting with several drug mixtures, one of which — a combination of antibiotics and hydroxychloroquine, a drug used to treat lupus and malaria — has generated optimism in American hospitals.
The woman said she felt older patients at the hospital were treated “like dead dogs.”
Neither Taiwan News nor RFA could independently confirm the reports of Wuhan residents being burned alive.
The Chinese Communist Party claims that, as of Tuesday, it has documented 82,718 cases of coronavirus nationwide and 3,335 deaths across the country. The vast majority of these, 3,212 deaths, were recorded in Hubei province. Wuhan is the capital of Hubei.
Multiple reports citing sources in Wuhan’s seven funeral homes dispute this claim, estimating that the real death toll in the city is as much as ten times higher than China’s official nationwide death toll. Reports of hundreds of bodies cremated in some funeral homes began surfacing in February, at the height of the epidemic in the city. Government officials did not allow residents to pick up the remains of their relatives until late March, however, as the strict lockdown that saw government officials welding Wuhan residents in their homes was still ongoing.
When the funeral homes opened to distributed ashes two weekends ago, witnesses estimated that some funeral homes were distributing as many as 5,000 sets of remains a day. Estimates as to the number of sets of remains distributed last week in Wuhan range from 30,000 to 46,000 people.
“There are suspicions that many people died in their homes without being diagnosed and, at first, there were no kits to do the test,” an unnamed resident said in a report last week. “Nobody in Wuhan believes the official numbers. The real one, only they know.”
Ma, the funeral home source speaking to RFA in its report on Monday, said that Wuhan was cremating so many bodies at some point that some incinerators broke down, resulting in cremators placing multiple bodies in one incinerator at a time to keep up with the sheer amount of remains. The result has been several reported incidents of people receiving urns with ashes featuring items they do not recognize that clearly did not belong to their loved ones.
“A resident of Wuhan’s Jiang’an district surnamed Liu said she had found a man’s belt clasp in the urn she was given, supposedly containing her mother’s ashes,” RFA noted. “And a resident of Hongshan district said he had found the remains of ceramic dental crown, denture or implant in the urn labeled with his father’s name, even though his father had never had such a thing fitted.”
Report: Wuhan Funeral Homes Burned Coronavirus Victims Alive
Locals in Wuhan have heard screams coming from funeral home furnaces, Radio Free Asia (RFA) reported on Monday.
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WOW!!!!!!!! Thanks. Cook Country jail has a lot of positives. I never thought of this. I have no indication that they are going to create a hospital but there are a lot of other places that they could have used as a simple testing center without a 15 story hotel. And the CPD involvement. There are a lot of cops there. I'd say 10 cars and they're not even doing anything yet. Thanks tons.. I never thought of this.Kind of sounds like they are turning the Essex Inn into some kind of aux. Covid hospital? Maybe for patients from a prison or jail, since they have to have corrections officers to guard them? Keeps them from being underfoot in a regular hospital setting.
Just a thought, since I obviously don't know what's going on there.
Whatever it is, I think it's going to open today. No need to be walking around in PPE for a trial run.
Tom McDowell
BAMN
An analysis by researchers at Harvard university has found that air pollution is linked to significantly higher rates of death in people with Covid-19, writes Damian Carrington, the Guardian’s environment editor.
The work shows that even a tiny, single-unit increase in particle pollution levels in the years before the pandemic is associated with a 15% increase in the death rate. The research, done in the US, calculates that slightly cleaner air in Manhattan in the past could have saved hundreds of lives.
Given the large differences in toxic air levels across countries, the research suggests people in polluted areas are far more likely to die from the coronavirus than those living in cleaner areas.
The scientists said dirty air was already known to increase the risk of acute respiratory distress syndrome, which is extremely deadly and a cause of Covid-19-related deaths, as well as other respiratory and heart problems.
Air pollution linked to far higher Covid-19 death rates, study finds Read more
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The work shows that even a tiny, single-unit increase in particle pollution levels in the years before the pandemic is associated with a 15% increase in the death rate. The research, done in the US, calculates that slightly cleaner air in Manhattan in the past could have saved hundreds of lives.
Given the large differences in toxic air levels across countries, the research suggests people in polluted areas are far more likely to die from the coronavirus than those living in cleaner areas.
The scientists said dirty air was already known to increase the risk of acute respiratory distress syndrome, which is extremely deadly and a cause of Covid-19-related deaths, as well as other respiratory and heart problems.
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It would be real easy to call bowl sheet on this. But, I've heard it from too many sources. I also saw a video from a healthcare worker in Wuhan showing a moving body bag. Probably a horrifying reality.Report: Wuhan Funeral Homes Burned Coronavirus Victims Alive
Virginia Mayo/AP PhotoFrances Martel7 Apr 2020
Locals in Wuhan, where the Chinese coronavirus pandemic originated, have heard screams coming from funeral home furnaces, and some treated in hospitals say they saw workers put living coronavirus patients in body bags, Radio Free Asia (RFA) reported on Monday.
RFA noted that it could not independently verify that the Chinese Communist Party was burning coronavirus patients alive, nor has the Communist Party confirmed or denied the rumors. Yet the rumors persist that, to make room for new patients in Wuhan’s overcrowded hospitals, medical staff chose older patients less likely to survive the infection and shipped them to incinerators while they were still alive and conscious.
RFA quoted a source “close to the funeral industry” identified only as Ma who said that he had heard reports of “people restrained and forced into body bags when they were still moving.”
“Some people are saying that … there are video clips of screams coming from funeral homes, from inside the furnaces … which tells us that some people were taken to the funeral homes while they were still alive,” Ma added.
Ma also noted the existence of video testimony from an anonymous older woman who had been treated at a Wuhan hospital, presumably for Chinese coronavirus.
“One old lady was saying that they put one guy into … a body bag when he wasn’t even dead yet, and took him off to the crematorium because there was no way of saving him,” Ma told RFA.
Video of an older woman speaking anonymously to a camera began circulating on social media in February in which she said she witnessed a patient next to her at a Wuhan hospital stuffed into a body bag while still alive.
“He’s not dead, his feet and hands are still moving,” the woman says, “[They] wrapped him in a plastic body bag and zipped it up.”
According to New Tang Dynasty, a broadcaster affiliated with the persecuted Chinese Falun Gong movement, the woman spoke with a Wuhan accent, suggesting she was a native of the central Chinese city.
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The Taiwanese outlet Taiwan News traced the origin of the video to a Chinese student group called “Youth Production,” who reportedly uploaded the video on February 24. Taiwan News noted that the woman claimed to have suffered from coronavirus symptoms but, as she was in her 60s, she did not suffer severe symptoms, unlike the man taken away, who she estimated was in his 70s.
“She said that the man was weak but was still breathing when medical workers ‘bound his head’ and then his hands and feet, which were ‘still moving,’” Taiwan News reported, noting that she also lamented that the hospital where she received care had no other treatments available for coronavirus patients besides oxygen. In the West, doctors have begun experimenting with several drug mixtures, one of which — a combination of antibiotics and hydroxychloroquine, a drug used to treat lupus and malaria — has generated optimism in American hospitals.
The woman said she felt older patients at the hospital were treated “like dead dogs.”
Neither Taiwan News nor RFA could independently confirm the reports of Wuhan residents being burned alive.
The Chinese Communist Party claims that, as of Tuesday, it has documented 82,718 cases of coronavirus nationwide and 3,335 deaths across the country. The vast majority of these, 3,212 deaths, were recorded in Hubei province. Wuhan is the capital of Hubei.
Multiple reports citing sources in Wuhan’s seven funeral homes dispute this claim, estimating that the real death toll in the city is as much as ten times higher than China’s official nationwide death toll. Reports of hundreds of bodies cremated in some funeral homes began surfacing in February, at the height of the epidemic in the city. Government officials did not allow residents to pick up the remains of their relatives until late March, however, as the strict lockdown that saw government officials welding Wuhan residents in their homes was still ongoing.
When the funeral homes opened to distributed ashes two weekends ago, witnesses estimated that some funeral homes were distributing as many as 5,000 sets of remains a day. Estimates as to the number of sets of remains distributed last week in Wuhan range from 30,000 to 46,000 people.
“There are suspicions that many people died in their homes without being diagnosed and, at first, there were no kits to do the test,” an unnamed resident said in a report last week. “Nobody in Wuhan believes the official numbers. The real one, only they know.”
Ma, the funeral home source speaking to RFA in its report on Monday, said that Wuhan was cremating so many bodies at some point that some incinerators broke down, resulting in cremators placing multiple bodies in one incinerator at a time to keep up with the sheer amount of remains. The result has been several reported incidents of people receiving urns with ashes featuring items they do not recognize that clearly did not belong to their loved ones.
“A resident of Wuhan’s Jiang’an district surnamed Liu said she had found a man’s belt clasp in the urn she was given, supposedly containing her mother’s ashes,” RFA noted. “And a resident of Hongshan district said he had found the remains of ceramic dental crown, denture or implant in the urn labeled with his father’s name, even though his father had never had such a thing fitted.”
Report: Wuhan Funeral Homes Burned Coronavirus Victims Alive
Locals in Wuhan have heard screams coming from funeral home furnaces, Radio Free Asia (RFA) reported on Monday.
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Coronavirus hits black communities harder than others
From CNN's Elise Hammond
FDNY paramedics bring a patient to Wyckoff Hospital in the Bushwick section of Brooklyn on April 5, in New York. Bryan R. Smith/AFP/Getty Images
Numbers show a disproportionate number of black Americans are dying due to the coronavirus, doctors and officials say.
Dr. Camara Phyllis Jones, a family physician and epidemiologist, said structural segregation and inequality in US society has positioned black Americans and other minorities to be more exposed to the virus, and have more severe cases because of other health issues.
Here's a look at some of the numbers: Louisiana Gov. John Bel Edwards said at a press briefing yesterday about 70% of coronavirus deaths in the state have been black residents who make up only about 32% of the overall population.
In Illinois, about 42% of deaths have been black patients, who make up only about 15% of the population there. In Michigan, black residents make up about 14% of the statewide population, and account for more than 40% of the deaths
Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot said yesterday that 72% of all Chicago deaths related to Covid-19 have been black Chicagoans.
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From CNN's Elise Hammond
FDNY paramedics bring a patient to Wyckoff Hospital in the Bushwick section of Brooklyn on April 5, in New York. Bryan R. Smith/AFP/Getty Images
Numbers show a disproportionate number of black Americans are dying due to the coronavirus, doctors and officials say.
Dr. Camara Phyllis Jones, a family physician and epidemiologist, said structural segregation and inequality in US society has positioned black Americans and other minorities to be more exposed to the virus, and have more severe cases because of other health issues.
She said this same segregation also means that black people work jobs that are seen as less valuable, and as a result, they are not as protected. Phyllis Jones pointed out another reason cases are resulting in death could be the limited access to health care."What's happening is black folks are getting infected more because they are exposed more and once infected they're dying more," she said.
Here's a look at some of the numbers: Louisiana Gov. John Bel Edwards said at a press briefing yesterday about 70% of coronavirus deaths in the state have been black residents who make up only about 32% of the overall population.
In Illinois, about 42% of deaths have been black patients, who make up only about 15% of the population there. In Michigan, black residents make up about 14% of the statewide population, and account for more than 40% of the deaths
Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot said yesterday that 72% of all Chicago deaths related to Covid-19 have been black Chicagoans.
Coronavirus hits black communities harder than others
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Opinion: What I learned running a Beaumont COVID-19 floor
I completed four days as the attending physician on a COVID-19 floor at my local hospital, and here is some of what I learned:
First, this is like nothing we have seen before. This virus is its own animal — it’s totally different in so many ways. As a physician, so much of what I’ve learned to treat over the years does not apply. Throw conventional wisdom out the window.
Thought we treated sepsis with fluids? Think again.
Thought we treated chronic obstructive pulmonary disease exacerbations with steroids? Think again.
Thought we ventilated people with pneumonia on their backs? Think again.
Think we knew much about anything?
I showed up ready to serve, like thousands of my colleagues and health care workers across the globe. This is totally different.
Second, most in the health care profession don’t whine. They just do it. I’ve never seen anything like it before. Doctors, nurses, aids, clerks, janitorial staff: They show up every day. They are apolitical. They believe in humanity, however imperfect.
Third, there is hope in all adversity. We have to listen for the truths buried within the struggle. It may be transformative. No one can do this for us.
Fourth, I have some guarded hope for treatment. This virus is nasty. I’m the first to admit that I did not “get it.” Now I do. All of the practitioners on the front lines see how bad it can be. I won’t quote outcomes, but we’re gathering data as we go. There will be more studies published over the next few months than can be digested in a lifetime. I don’t claim to be any authority. Most of us only have observational, nonscientific analysis, but I had some positive results. Yes, I think I did.
I ran a floor of COVID-19 positive patients with severe symptoms. Our team used the combo of hydroxychloroquine with azithromycin and it seemed to help! Of the patients that I treated for these four days who where acutely ill — all ages and health conditions — most (loosely defined and footnoted) seemed to improve and were able to be discharged home. I can say that I transferred no one to the ICU but I sent many people home.
Progress? I sure hope so. Would they have responded without? I don’t know.
Unfortunately, there are also very severe cases whose victims aren’t as fortunate. When people go bad, they go bad quickly. Please keep them in your prayers.
None of us know why this is happening or where it will lead, but there is no better time to accept that we are all in this together.
Let’s all listen and learn. God bless.
Dr. Christopher R. DeAngelis is an internal medicine physician based in Woodhaven, on staff at Beaumont-Trenton. He lives in Grosse Ile.
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I completed four days as the attending physician on a COVID-19 floor at my local hospital, and here is some of what I learned:
First, this is like nothing we have seen before. This virus is its own animal — it’s totally different in so many ways. As a physician, so much of what I’ve learned to treat over the years does not apply. Throw conventional wisdom out the window.
Thought we treated sepsis with fluids? Think again.
Thought we treated chronic obstructive pulmonary disease exacerbations with steroids? Think again.
Thought we ventilated people with pneumonia on their backs? Think again.
Think we knew much about anything?
I showed up ready to serve, like thousands of my colleagues and health care workers across the globe. This is totally different.
Second, most in the health care profession don’t whine. They just do it. I’ve never seen anything like it before. Doctors, nurses, aids, clerks, janitorial staff: They show up every day. They are apolitical. They believe in humanity, however imperfect.
Third, there is hope in all adversity. We have to listen for the truths buried within the struggle. It may be transformative. No one can do this for us.
Fourth, I have some guarded hope for treatment. This virus is nasty. I’m the first to admit that I did not “get it.” Now I do. All of the practitioners on the front lines see how bad it can be. I won’t quote outcomes, but we’re gathering data as we go. There will be more studies published over the next few months than can be digested in a lifetime. I don’t claim to be any authority. Most of us only have observational, nonscientific analysis, but I had some positive results. Yes, I think I did.
I ran a floor of COVID-19 positive patients with severe symptoms. Our team used the combo of hydroxychloroquine with azithromycin and it seemed to help! Of the patients that I treated for these four days who where acutely ill — all ages and health conditions — most (loosely defined and footnoted) seemed to improve and were able to be discharged home. I can say that I transferred no one to the ICU but I sent many people home.
Progress? I sure hope so. Would they have responded without? I don’t know.
Unfortunately, there are also very severe cases whose victims aren’t as fortunate. When people go bad, they go bad quickly. Please keep them in your prayers.
None of us know why this is happening or where it will lead, but there is no better time to accept that we are all in this together.
Let’s all listen and learn. God bless.
Dr. Christopher R. DeAngelis is an internal medicine physician based in Woodhaven, on staff at Beaumont-Trenton. He lives in Grosse Ile.
Opinion: What I learned running a Beaumont COVID-19 floor
"None of us know why this is happening or where it will lead, but there is no better time to accept that we are all in this together"
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734 Henry Ford workers test positive for COVID-19; Beaumont has 1,500 ill employees
Two of Metro Detroit's largest hospital systems are reporting significant numbers of employees suffering from symptoms of COVID-19 infections.
Beaumont Health, the state's largest health care system, and Detroit-based Henry Ford Health System say they have at least 2,200 employees who have either tested positive or are home with symptoms of the novel coronavirus infection.
A total of 734 employees at the Henry Ford Health System have tested positive for COVID-19, according to Dr. Adnan Munkarah, the Detroit-based system's chief clinical officer.
The more than 700 workers testing positive are among a total of 2,500 employees who have been tested for the virus since the hospital began tracking March 12, Munkarah said during a Monday call with reporters. The number of infected workers represents about 2.1% of the five-hospital system's 31,600 employees.
It's not clear whether those employees contracted the virus while at work or through community spread. And the number does not reflect the number of employees currently in quarantine, according to the system.
Henry Ford strictly adheres to personal protection equipment usage during COVID-19 care, requires all employees and visitors to use masks and prioritizes testing for employees, Munkarah said.
"As a health system caring for a large majority of our region's COVID-19 patients, we know we are not immune to potential exposure, and we remain grateful for the courage and dedication of our entire team," he said.
Beaumont Health currently has 1,500 of its 38,000 employees staying home because they have COVID-19 symptoms, said Mark Geary, a spokesman for the health system. That's 3.9% of its workforce. The employees are required to stay home for seven days or until they are symptom-free for three days.
"During this period of time, we are not requiring employees to use their paid time off," Geary said.
The Metro Detroit health systems have been among the hardest hit by the virus as they deal with daily influxes of Detroit-area patients.
More than 80% of the state’s more than 17,220 cases have been centered in the Metro Detroit counties of Wayne, Oakland and Macomb, taxing such hospital systems as Henry Ford, Beaumont Health and the Detroit Medical Center.
The numbers represent a growing concern among those in the industry because of the threat to health care workers and the depleted workforce left to care for the growing number of serious cases, said Ruthanne Sudderth, a spokeswoman for the Michigan Health and Hospital Association.
"That’s why we’ve been really harping on getting adequate PPE (personal protection equipment) to our staff because getting them taken offline by illness hurts everybody," Sudderth said.
"We want to make sure at the very least we can protect them while they’re at work."
The state, which provides daily reports on new confirmed coronavirus cases and deaths, is exploring how to capture data statewide on the number of health care workers who have tested positive for the virus, said Lynn Sutfin, a spokeswoman for the Department of Health and Human Services.
A spokesman for the eight-hospital DMC said he didn't have information on the number of employees who have tested positive for the virus.
As of Saturday, at least 3,768 people were hospitalized for COVID-19 across the state, 1,383 were on ventilators and 89% of those hospitalized are in Metro Detroit, Michigan Chief Medical Executive Dr. Joneigh Khaldun said.
As the patient burden at Metro Detroit hospitals grows, so do increasing concerns among employees who, at times, are having to reuse personal protection equipment because of expected shortages.
On Friday, Southfield-based Beaumont told employees that those wishing to avoid working with COVID-19 patients would have to voluntarily resign, making them ineligible for unemployment or future re-employment with the eight-hospital system. The policy made exceptions for those with medical conditions, including pregnancy.
On Sunday night, night shift emergency room nurses say they were told to leave DMC's Sinai-Grace hospital in Detroit after they staged a sit-in to demand more support to treat a surge of COVID-19 patients.
At Henry Ford Health, the number of patients has been steady, but the hospital system also has seen patients recovering to the point of discharge.
But roughly 8 in 10 of the COVID-19 patients in the health system's intensive care units are on ventilators, Munkarah said. On average, those patients have required ventilator support for eight to nine days.
Munkarah would not say Monday how many Henry Ford Health employees had died because of patient privacy. Last week, 53-year-old Lisa Ewald, a longtime registered nurse with Henry Ford Health System, died in her Dearborn home after testing positive for the virus.
The system's hospitals will need more ventilators if its numbers continue to increase and has already repurposed anesthesia equipment to meet some of its needs, he said.
Two of Metro Detroit's largest hospital systems are reporting significant numbers of employees suffering from symptoms of COVID-19 infections.
Beaumont Health, the state's largest health care system, and Detroit-based Henry Ford Health System say they have at least 2,200 employees who have either tested positive or are home with symptoms of the novel coronavirus infection.
A total of 734 employees at the Henry Ford Health System have tested positive for COVID-19, according to Dr. Adnan Munkarah, the Detroit-based system's chief clinical officer.
The more than 700 workers testing positive are among a total of 2,500 employees who have been tested for the virus since the hospital began tracking March 12, Munkarah said during a Monday call with reporters. The number of infected workers represents about 2.1% of the five-hospital system's 31,600 employees.
It's not clear whether those employees contracted the virus while at work or through community spread. And the number does not reflect the number of employees currently in quarantine, according to the system.
Henry Ford strictly adheres to personal protection equipment usage during COVID-19 care, requires all employees and visitors to use masks and prioritizes testing for employees, Munkarah said.
"As a health system caring for a large majority of our region's COVID-19 patients, we know we are not immune to potential exposure, and we remain grateful for the courage and dedication of our entire team," he said.
Beaumont Health currently has 1,500 of its 38,000 employees staying home because they have COVID-19 symptoms, said Mark Geary, a spokesman for the health system. That's 3.9% of its workforce. The employees are required to stay home for seven days or until they are symptom-free for three days.
"During this period of time, we are not requiring employees to use their paid time off," Geary said.
The Metro Detroit health systems have been among the hardest hit by the virus as they deal with daily influxes of Detroit-area patients.
More than 80% of the state’s more than 17,220 cases have been centered in the Metro Detroit counties of Wayne, Oakland and Macomb, taxing such hospital systems as Henry Ford, Beaumont Health and the Detroit Medical Center.
The numbers represent a growing concern among those in the industry because of the threat to health care workers and the depleted workforce left to care for the growing number of serious cases, said Ruthanne Sudderth, a spokeswoman for the Michigan Health and Hospital Association.
"That’s why we’ve been really harping on getting adequate PPE (personal protection equipment) to our staff because getting them taken offline by illness hurts everybody," Sudderth said.
"We want to make sure at the very least we can protect them while they’re at work."
The state, which provides daily reports on new confirmed coronavirus cases and deaths, is exploring how to capture data statewide on the number of health care workers who have tested positive for the virus, said Lynn Sutfin, a spokeswoman for the Department of Health and Human Services.
A spokesman for the eight-hospital DMC said he didn't have information on the number of employees who have tested positive for the virus.
As of Saturday, at least 3,768 people were hospitalized for COVID-19 across the state, 1,383 were on ventilators and 89% of those hospitalized are in Metro Detroit, Michigan Chief Medical Executive Dr. Joneigh Khaldun said.
As the patient burden at Metro Detroit hospitals grows, so do increasing concerns among employees who, at times, are having to reuse personal protection equipment because of expected shortages.
On Friday, Southfield-based Beaumont told employees that those wishing to avoid working with COVID-19 patients would have to voluntarily resign, making them ineligible for unemployment or future re-employment with the eight-hospital system. The policy made exceptions for those with medical conditions, including pregnancy.
On Sunday night, night shift emergency room nurses say they were told to leave DMC's Sinai-Grace hospital in Detroit after they staged a sit-in to demand more support to treat a surge of COVID-19 patients.
At Henry Ford Health, the number of patients has been steady, but the hospital system also has seen patients recovering to the point of discharge.
But roughly 8 in 10 of the COVID-19 patients in the health system's intensive care units are on ventilators, Munkarah said. On average, those patients have required ventilator support for eight to nine days.
Munkarah would not say Monday how many Henry Ford Health employees had died because of patient privacy. Last week, 53-year-old Lisa Ewald, a longtime registered nurse with Henry Ford Health System, died in her Dearborn home after testing positive for the virus.
The system's hospitals will need more ventilators if its numbers continue to increase and has already repurposed anesthesia equipment to meet some of its needs, he said.
734 Henry Ford workers test positive for COVID-19; Beaumont has 1,500 ill employees
It's not clear whether those employees contracted the virus while at work or through community spread
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