ALERT Look Out Below! China’s Heavy-Lift Rocket Due For Uncontrolled Reentry Within Days

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confirms that CZ-5B (#LongMarch5B) (48275 / 2021-035B) reentered atmosphere 9 May at 0214Z and fell into the Indian ocean north of the Maldives at lat 22.2, long 50.0. That's all we have on this re-entry; thanks for the wild ride and 30K more followers. Good night!

I think someone just double hit the 2 or maybe China dropped a 2







Jonathan McDowell

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The US Space Force's 18th Space Control Squadron has now confirmed that the CZ-5B-Y2 reentered over the Indian Ocean. They say 'north of the Maldives' but give a position of 50E 22.2N which is in the Rub al Khali desert of Saudi Arabia.
 

jward

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May 8, 2021

RELEASE 21-060



NASA Administrator Statement on Chinese Rocket Debris

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NASA Administrator Sen. Bill Nelson released the following statement Saturday regarding debris from the Chinese Long March 5B rocket:

“Spacefaring nations must minimize the risks to people and property on Earth of re-entries of space objects and maximize transparency regarding those operations.

“It is clear that China is failing to meet responsible standards regarding their space debris.

“It is critical that China and all spacefaring nations and commercial entities act responsibly and transparently in space to ensure the safety, stability, security, and long-term sustainability of outer space activities.”

For more information on NASA and agency activities, visit:


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Last Updated: May 8, 2021

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JUST IN: Debris From Chinese Rocket Lands in Indian Ocean Right Over the Maldives, Authorities Say

Debris from the Chinese rocket hurdling back to earth at 18,000 miles per hour has landed in the Indian Ocean, according to Chinese officials.

The fragments landed at 2:24 am local time, according to the China National Space Administration.

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The Chinese Long March 5B rocket reentered at 0224 UTC at 72.47E 2.65N which is right over the Maldives, a small archipelago in the Indian Ocean.

“If correct will be interesting to see if we get reports from there,” astronomer Center for Astrophysics Jonathan McDowell said.

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“It appears China won its gamble… But it was still reckless,” McDowell said.

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Earlier this week it was reported that debris from the rocket could have landed in New York.

When asked how the US would respond if fragments of the rocket landed in the US, Jen Psaki declined to comment.

Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said the military would not shoot down the 46,000 pound of rocket fragments if it was set to land in the US.
 

jward

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hmm. the press release was far more milque-toast than lambast, imho. . .

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NASA lambasted China overnight for its failure to "meet responsible standards" after debris from its out-of-control rocket likely plunged into the Indian Ocean. The rocket was left to hurtle through space uncontrolled until Earth's gravity dragged it back to the ground.
View: https://twitter.com/willripleyCNN/status/1391354342259703809?s=20
 

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NEWS | May 9, 2021


Chinese Long March 5B re-enters over Arabian Peninsula

By U.S. Space Command Public Affairs Office

PETERSON AIR FORCE BASE, Colo., –

U.S. Space Command can confirm the Chinese Long March 5B re-entered over the Arabian Peninsula at approximately 10:15 p.m. EDT on May 8.

It is unknown if the debris impacted land or water.

USSPACECOM does not conduct direct notifications to individual governments. The exact location of the impact and the span of debris, both of which are unknown at this time, will not be released by U.S. Space Command.
 

raven

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You do probably understand that it was ballistic
And there are mathematical models for ballistic reentry
And it is likely that the Chinese, Nasa, and everyone else with a space program had already done the math
and had a pretty good idea where it would splash down.

the Chinese weren't saying because they were showing who was big dog
NASA wasn't saying because they wanted to shame the Chinese
and after NASA shamed the Chinese, the Chinese dug in their heels.

now . . . if you want to set your hair on fire and run screaming down the street in terror
don't forget the tin foil hat.
 

raven

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jward

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String of satellites baffles residents, bugs astronomers

by Claudia Lauer


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In this photo taken May 6, 2021, with a long exposure, a string of SpaceX StarLink satellites passes over an old stone house near Florence, Kan. The train of lights was actually a series of relatively low-flying satellites launched by Elon Musk's SpaceX as part of its Starlink internet service earlier this week. (AP Photo/Reed Hoffmann, File)
A string of lights that lobbed across the night sky in parts of the U.S. on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday had some people wondering if a fleet of UFOs was coming, but it had others— mostly amateur stargazers and professional astronomers— lamenting the industrialization of space.


The train of lights was actually a series of relatively low-flying satellites launched by Elon Musk's SpaceX as part of its Starlink internet service earlier this week. Callers swamped TV stations from Texas to Wisconsin reporting the lights and musing about UFOs.


An email to a spokesman for SpaceX was not returned Saturday, but astronomy experts said the number of lights in quick succession and their distance from Earth made them easily identifiable as Starlink satellites for those who are used to seeing them.


"The way you can tell they are Starlink satellites is they are like a string of pearls, these lights travelling in the same basic orbit, one right after the other," said Dr. Richard Fienberg, press officer for the American Astronomical Society.


Fienberg said the satellites that are being launched in large groups called constellations string together when they orbit, especially right after launching. The strings get smaller as time goes on.


This month, SpaceX has already launched dozens of satellites. It is all part of a plan to bridge the digital divide and bring internet access to underserved areas of the world, with SpaceX tentatively scheduled to launch another 120 satellites later in the month. Overall, the company has sent about 1,500 satellites into orbit and has asked for permission to launch thousands more.


But prior to recent years, there were maybe a few hundred satellites total orbiting Earth, mostly visible as individual lights moving across the sky, Fienberg said. The other handful of companies that are planning to or have launched the satellite constellations have not launched recently and largely pushed them into orbit at a farther distance from Earth, he said.


Fienberg's group as well as others that represent both professional and amateur stargazers don't love the proliferation of satellites that can obscure scientific data and ruin a clear night of watching the universe. The International Astronomical Union issued a statement in July 2019 noting concern about the multiple satellite launches.




"The organisation, in general, embraces the principle of a dark and radio-quiet sky as not only essential to advancing our understanding of the Universe of which we are a part, but also as a resource for all humanity and for the protection of nocturnal wildlife," the union's representatives wrote. They noted that light reflection can interfere with astronomical research, but the radio-waves can also cause problems for specialized research equipment such as those that captured the first images of a black hole.


Fienberg said there is no real regulation of light pollution from satellites, but SpaceX has voluntarily worked to mitigate that by creating visors that dampen the satellites' reflection of sunlight. They've made significant progress in just two years, he said, but many hope that the satellites will some day be at such a low magnitude that they will not be visible to the naked eye even at dusk or dawn.


Fienberg noted a massive telescope being built in Chile, costing millions of dollars and a decade of planning. The telescope will capture a huge swath of the sky in the Southern hemisphere and take continual pictures to record a sort of movie that will show the universe changing. Because of its size, nearly eight meters across, the massive telescope could also lead to the discovery of dimmer objects in the night sky, he said.


The plan is for the telescope to start recording in 2023. And with plans for thousands of satellites, Fienberg said it's hard to imagine that they won't cause issues with the data since there's no way to correct for their lights and know what amount of light should be emitted from any dimmer objects behind the path of the satellites, which could also create ghost images in the data.


"We're talking with companies now and hoping to continue to make progress, and potentially by the time it goes into operation, have tools and techniques to correct for the lights and perhaps fainter satellites," Fienberg said. "We can't say this is wrong and you have to stop because the point is to provide internet access to the whole globe. It's an admirable goal, that we would support, if it didn't mean giving up something else... the night sky."




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foreverkeeps

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We were sitting at our campsite on the New River in NC last night watching the northern sky.
we DEFINITELY saw the Chinese space junk at 9:05 PM EST!
it was cool!
 
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