Just Heard on 'CNN' Donald Trump is Calling for New Caucus Or Cruz Results Nullified

[JohnGaltfla]

And I don't condone what he did, but if I heard through a competing candidate that my chosen candidate was going to announce he was quitting, I wouldn't be changing my vote until I heard it from the horses mouth, not some rumor from a competitor. You got to be an idiot to believe what Cruz had said without hearing anything yourself directly from your own candidate.

Beth, people do not care about facts. No matter how true or factual they might be. We the people are watching the shattered Tea Party supporters drift into Obamalalaland type of delusion. Sadly.

http://www.trevorloudon.com/2016/02...ble-for-ben-carson-campaign-suspension-rumor/

Evidently, a damaging “rumor” that Dr. Ben Carson was suspending his campaign started during a Monday broadcast on CNN at around 7:43 pm est, while the Iowa caucus was in full swing. The “rumor” led to Cruz campaign staffers informing their precinct captains that they should urge caucus-goers to vote for Ted Cruz.

The Cruz camp, along with many other media sources had the same impression.

Consider this article at Business Insider, which still has the original link:

The article, written by Pamela Engel, explains in an updated version:

Ben Carson’s campaign on Monday night released a statement denying that the retired neurosurgeon was suspending his bid for the Republican presidential nomination.

According to Carson’s communication director, Larry Ross, the statement cited “false media reports,” not overly ambitious Cruz campaign workers:

Contrary to false media reports, Dr. Ben Carson is not suspending his presidential campaign, which is stronger than ever. After spending 18 consecutive days on the campaign trail, Dr. Carson needs to go home and get a fresh set of clothes. He will be departing Des Moines later tonight to avoid the snow storm and will be back on the trail Wednesday…

Some media sources and others clearly had the impression that Carson was suspending his campaign:

Which led to:

Ben Carson going home to Florida after tonight, @CNN reporting. #iowacaucus

— Ken Shepherd (@KenShepherd) February 2, 2016

So Ben Carson isn’t focusing on South Carolina after all, per @CNN, which is reporting Carson heading home to Florida.

— Mitch Pugh (@SCMitchP) February 2, 2016

Carson won’t go to NH/SC, but instead will head home to Florida for some R&R. He’ll be in DC Thursday for the National Prayer Breakfast.

— Chris Moody (@moody) February 2, 2016

Carson not going to NH says @CNN? Cruz no doubt wishing he’d already packed it in, putting his IA votes in play.

— Michael Smerconish (@smerconish) February 2, 2016

So, Ben Carson is going home to Florida, and #IowaCaucus just started? Puzzling news @CNN I can’t wait to see what @DavidChalian has to say

— Kalee Kreider (@kaleekreider) February 2, 2016

@CNN just reported that Dr. Ben Carson will be going home to Florida after tonight and not to NH or SC to rest before going to D.C.
Weird.

— Roh2D2 (@roachman61) February 2, 2016

@RandPaul @ChipEnglander @dougstafford Word on the street Ben Carson done!Grab them voters!!!Look at @CNN

— Laura Shupe (@shupe_laura) February 2, 2016

Carson is not suspending his campaign? outright lie and poison being spread by liars that are threatened by his sudden Iowa surge.

— Armstrong Williams (@Arightside) February 2, 2016

Note the times on the above tweets.

Assuming that Carson was indeed suspending his campaign, Rep. Steve King clearly meant no malice when he tweeted:

Carson looks like he is out. Iowans need to know before they vote. Most will go to Cruz, I hope. https://t.co/lW5Js50EMA

— Steve King (@SteveKingIA) February 2, 2016

Ted Cruz said in a statement that “when our political team saw the CNN post saying that Dr. Carson was not carrying on to New Hampshire and South Carolina,” his campaign “updated grassroots leaders just as we would with any breaking news story.” He conceded, however, that what the Cruz team “then should have done was send around the follow-up statement from the Carson campaign clarifying that he was indeed staying in the race when that came out.”

Basically, the Cruz team should have known better than to trust the media.

On Tuesday afternoon, Rep. Steve King tweeted:

I respect Ben Carson & regret any miscommunications. Perhaps @RealBenCarson supporters r unaware of this CNN story. https://t.co/RgrljodXl1

— Steve King (@SteveKingIA) February 2, 2016

The following tweet pointed out by Rep. Steve King illustrates that CNN was giving a very real impression to viewers that Carson was on shaky grounds.

After the #IAcaucus, @RealBenCarson plans to take a break from campaigning https://t.co/2sMsS7rlRk https://t.co/dVGpik7gNN

— CNN (@CNN) February 2, 2016

and there was also this:

BREAKING: @moody has learned @realbencarson will return to FL following #IAcaucus, will not go to either NH or SC https://t.co/jl8NOY9KEx

— The Lead CNN (@TheLeadCNN) February 2, 2016

CNN completely denied that they had anything to do with what appears to be their own massive gaffe:

Cruz said in a statement Tuesday that his campaign staff saw a CNN report that Carson was dropping out, although CNN had not characterized Carson’s actions that way.

The link in the above quote returns the reader to the same article in which they were reading, which is either an error or a deliberate deception.

Astoundingly but not surprisingly, CNN and many others have poured fuel on the fire by instigating Dr. Carson into placing blame on Cruz. In a segment with Jake Tapper titled “Carson demands Cruz fire staffers involved in ‘dirty trick,'” a caption that seems to have been penned by a fourth grader laments:

“Dr. Ben Carson demands Sen. Ted Cruz’s campaign take responsibility and fire tstaffers [sic] who told Iowa voters Carson was dropping out of the race.”

It appears that it was actually CNN that “told Iowa voters Carson was dropping out of the race.”

UPDATE: Several readers/tweeters have pointed out this excellent article at Politistick, which makes the case that the Rubio campaign was not only aware of the “rumor,” but “pushing the narrative hard.” If this is true, Marco Rubio’s outrage aimed at Cruz is wholly disingenuous.

And here's the CNN Report long before the Cruz campaign (after the Rubio campaign) started spreading the word:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqdGpWqmRTA

-Now I'm done with this issue. It's been fun to mock, it's been unreal to watch a guy I used to respect, Dr. Ben Carson, fall like he has, but the sore loser brigade needs to grow up and get ready. The meat of the campaign season is approaching and if "your boy" loses, be it Rubio, Carson, Cruz, Bush, or tRUMP, deal with it. -See y'all next time, John

 

[Lavender]

It did too cost him votes!

Because Donald Trump told me ALL ABOUT CARSON back in November how dumb his supporters in Iowa were and how is like a child molester!!!!

Now this is getting sad. I know what Trump meant when he talked about the people of Iowa....and all of the country. And I would like to see the quote of Donald Trump saying that Ben Carson is like a child molester.......meaning that he WAS a child molester. I would need to see it in context.

 

[fairbanksb]

Me thinks Trump supporters are spreading false rumors. Dirty tricksters. The injustice of it all. Trying to get me to change my vote.

 

[Oilpatch Hand]

CRUZ lied about Carson Dropping out....if I were TRUMP I'd be screaming bloody murder too.

If true, then it doesn't make much sense for Trump to "scream bloody murder," as he isn't the injured party. Carson is.

Besides...why isn't anybody launching at CNN, which was the first outlet to release the erroneous report about Carson dropping out, which somebody, allegedly with the Cruz campaign, purportedly further disseminated?

And further...how shallow must a candidate's support be if his/her supporters can be swayed to vote for another candidate based solely on an Internet rumor and little else? If Carson's supporters were moved to support Cruz on the basis of this rumor, they probably weren't even in the Carson camp in the first place. But Carson had been getting about 10% support in the pre-caucus polling; he actually got about 9% of the vote. If his campaign effort was damaged by this rumor, any such damage was minimal at best.

None of which serves to explain why Trump is "screaming bloody murder" about this episode. Trump's loss was primarily attributable to his failure to show to the final debate, which no doubt caused many then-undecided caucus-goers to cross him off their list for consideration. Trump's complaint here seems to be that he's been damaged because the Cruz campaign allegedly played a "dirty trick" on the Carson campaign, which doesn't make much sense. But it does attract attention, I guess, which is what Donald Trump is all about, I suppose.

 

[Lavender]

I wonder why Ted Cruz has not fired his staffer Dan Gabriel who used 'dirty tricks.'

Oh the GOPe must be loving this.

 

[Millwright]

OOOPS

wrong thread

 

[fairbanksb]

Now this is getting sad. I know what Trump meant when he talked about the people of Iowa....and all of the country. And I would like to see the quote of Donald Trump saying that Ben Carson is like a child molester.......meaning that he WAS a child molester. I would need to see it in context.

I heard this rant myself. I have checked two sites so far that had the youtube videos of it and both videos have been removed. Go figure.

http://dcwhispers.com/did-trump-cam...rk-likens-ben-carson-to-child-molester-video/

Did Trump Campaign Just Jump The Shark? Likens Ben Carson Struggles To Child Molester (UPDATED)

Even some of his most ardent supporters are shaking their heads and wondering what motivated Donald Trump during what was a bizarre 90-minute rambling display of attack against his GOP rivals to take it several steps further by linking Dr. Ben Carson’s earlier life struggles to that of a child molester.

Yes, Mr. Trump really did go there and it has confounded those who have stood by him and delighted his critics both in the Republican Establishment and the Mainstream Media who think Mr. Trump has finally delivered his own campaign death blow.

Some are suggesting fatigue as being a contributing factor to the what is widely viewed as a nearly incoherent rant that devolved into Trump calling out his primary Iowa rival as a liar, his Iowa supporters as stupid, and then eventually, linking Dr. Carson to a mental sickness, “like child molestation.” Trump’s many detractors are pointing to this attack as evidence the candidate is having a very difficult time accepting the possibility he could lose in Iowa.



Video of the tirade clearly shows Trump supporters looking increasingly confused and uncomfortable as they watch and listen to the candidate repeat over and over again how stupid voters must be to believe a word of Dr. Carson’s story.

Will Mr. Trump continue to inexplicably survive such outrageous moments on the campaign trail or will voter backlash result in his plummeting in the polls? His critics are now salivating at the prospect of making his most recent attacks on Ben Carson the top news item over the weekend. From there, it will be up to Donald Trump to try and navigate some seriously troubled waters that are entirely of his own making.

Here’s the video so you can judge for yourself:

UPDATED: Earlier today, though subsequently lost in the news of the Paris tragedy, was Dr. Ben Carson’s refusal to publicly respond negatively to Mr. Trump’s most recent attack against him. Carson affirmed he did not believe Donald Trump was calling him a child molester, though he was troubled enough over Trump’s behavior yesterday to say he would pray for him.

It was also indicated one of Donald Trump’s sons had a private meeting with his father regarding the Carson situation at the request of a senior Trump campaign adviser who was very frustrated over the trouble Mr. Trump’s comments were causing the campaign.

On-the-ground reports in Iowa included comments from Trump supporters who were at yesterday’s rally and were confused and or disappointed by Mr. Trump’s attacks on Dr. Carson. None of those supporters suggested they would change their support for the New York billionaire though, but would let the campaign know they did not approve of the comments.

As of now, Trump’s last public communication of the day was a prayer for the people of Paris. It would appear he doesn’t wish to talk politics following such a terrible tragedy – a prudent and respectful gesture on his part.

 

[curlysue]

Cruz should have vetted( hard time believing the mind slips he is having being the smart scholar he is). Carsons volunteers should have vetted.

All campaigns are using apps! All campaigns have county,district, and State communication. Communication should be going up and down that chain all day every day. Why Carson's volunteers did not vet this rumor has me baffled.

 

[fairbanksb]

I wonder why Ted Cruz has not fired his staffer Dan Gabriel who used 'dirty tricks.'

Oh the GOPe must be loving this.

See post #81. CNN started it. Gabriel was just passing on what he heard on CNN. Why should Gabriel be fired?

 

[privatemom]

If all of these quotes are true and if Cruz really did this, he is much more slimy than I can say.

Trump is referring to cruz/Staffers tweeting that carson was backing out of the race and people who were going to vote for him to vote for cruz.

Carson is pretty mad about it too.
“There is no place for this kind of unethical behavior in our American political culture," Carson said in a statement Tuesday, "and it only intensifies my desire to work extremely hard to break down the ugliness in this system.”

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Donald J. Trump
ý@realDonaldTrump

Ted Cruz didn't win Iowa, he stole it. That is why all of the polls were so wrong and why he got far more votes than anticipated. Bad!

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Donald J. Trump
ý@realDonaldTrump

During primetime of the Iowa Caucus, Cruz put out a release that @RealBenCarson was quitting the race, and to caucus (or vote) for Cruz.

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Donald J. Trump
ý@realDonaldTrump

Based on the fraud committed by Senator Ted Cruz during the Iowa Caucus, either a new election should take place or Cruz results nullified.

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[Mixin]

Now this is getting sad. I know what Trump meant when he talked about the people of Iowa....and all of the country. And I would like to see the quote of Donald Trump saying that Ben Carson is like a child molester.......meaning that he WAS a child molester. I would need to see it in context.

Ben Carson said his temper problem was (and the exact word escapes me). Trump said if that was true, it meant he had a life-long problem, like a child molester does. He didn't mean Carson was a child molester anymore than Carson meant it when he grouped gay people in with NAMBLA or those who indulge in bestiality.

 

[Be Well]

See post #81. CNN started it. Gabriel was just passing on what he heard on CNN. Why should Gabriel be fired?

Because Gabriel tweeted that the Cruz people had confirmed it with Carson's campaign.

 

[fairbanksb]

If all of these quotes are true and if Cruz really did this, he is much more slimy than I can say.

Really!!! Why do you Trump supports keep spreading crap just because Trump said it. Once again read Post #81. CNN started it. Better than that, CNN got it from Team Carson not even Cruz. CNN confused the info but they but they got it from aand then it was spread by a team Rubio guy. You need to go to the link below to see the actual tweets from Team Carson and Team Rubio.


Uh Oh, Was Marco Rubio Guilty in the Ben Carson Dropout Rumor?

https://politistick.com/uh-oh-was-marco-rubio-guilty-in-the-ben-carson-dropout-rumor/

Texas Senator Ted Cruz 
97%
has been the subject of brutal attacks all day by the Dr. Ben Carson campaign and the media who are excoriating him for something reportedly done by a campaign staffer.

Prior to the beginning of the Iowa Caucus, CNN reporter Chris Moody tweeted that Dr. Carson was leaving the campaign trail to return to Florida for some R&R. He then said that Carson would be in Washington, D.C. for the National Prayer Breakfast, the event that put the renowned retired pediatric neurosurgeon on the political map in 2013 when he bashed Barack Obama’s policies, specifically Obamacare, during his speech.

The Cruz campaign is accused of intentionally using dirty tricks against Carson during the Iowa Caucus. Dr. Carson finished the night with just over nine-percent of the vote. Ted Cruz won the Iowa Caucus with 27.6% of the vote.

Carson accuses Cruz of intentionally trying to undermine his campaign due to the actions of a grassroots leader involved with his campaign. The issue has been framed by many in the media, and the Carson campaign, as Ted Cruz giving a direct order to tell people that Carson was dropping out of the race in order to get more evangelical votes. They have also attempted to lead people to believe that this ‘controversy’ led to Carson’s fourth place finish. That could not be any further from the truth. Dr. Carson has demanded that the grassroots leader be fired.

The one thing not being mentioned is the CNN report which stemmed from an unclear statement sent out by the Carson campaign.

Screenshot 2016-02-02 at 8

The doctor’s campaign later clarified that Dr. Carson was not dropping out of the race, but merely returning to Florida to get a change of clothes. FOX News’ Dana Perino said earlier on Tuesday that such a decision by a presidential candidate at this state of the game is unheard of.

Still, Cruz handled the accusation with class issuing an apology for what happened. He is stated that after Carson further explained that he was simply going to get a change of clothes, that should have been relayed so as to avoid confusion. That entire apology is being framed as an admission of wrongdoing by Cruz himself in an obvious effort to derail the Texas senator’s presidential bid.
RELATED: Former Navy Pilot And Current Congressman SLAMS ‘Despicable’ Marco Rubio Attack Against Ted Cruz

What has not been said much throughout the day is that Florida Senator Marco Rubio 
79%
‘s campaign worked actively to spread the message that Carson was leaving the presidential race. These actions were reported on Twitter by Conrad Close who, according to his Twitter profile, is the managing editor of Outset Magazine.

Conrad Close Tweet 1

Another interesting little tidbit about Close, that he shouts from the rooftops with his Twitter profile picture, is that he is Team Rubio with the statement below his picture, “I’m voting for Marco Rubio.”

Conrad Close Twitter Profile

So, why is this a story?

At approximately 7:15 pm Mountain, I was in the middle of making dinner and saw Marco Rubio on FOX News’ The Kelly File with Megyn Kelly. During the interview, Rubio took a swipe at this ‘Cruz/Carson controversy’ without naming Cruz’s name. At around the 45-second mark, Marco Rubio got on his high horse, after claiming he does not attack other candidates.

 

[Lavender]

Ben Carson said his temper problem was (and the exact word escapes me). Trump said if that was true, it meant he had a life-long problem, like a child molester does. He didn't mean Carson was a child molester anymore than Carson meant it when he grouped gay people in with NAMBLA or those who indulge in bestiality.

Ahhhh. That's the context! I remember that now!

I knew 'whats's his name' was making what Trump said into something he did not mean. Kind-of like the liberal media does.

Thank you. You have a good memory!

 

[fairbanksb]

Ahhhh. That's the context! I remember that now!

I knew 'whats's his name' was making what Trump said into something he did not mean. Kind-of like the liberal media does.

Thank you. You have a good memory!

What, no condemnation of Trump for jumping feet first into this Carson thing with vetting the truth? I'm shocked.

 

[Lavender]

What, no condemnation of Trump for jumping feet first into this Carson thing with vetting the truth? I'm shocked.

Believe me, Trump says things that make me cringe all the time. But I like his plans for the country.

 

[Lavender]

WOW! Karl Rove Explains How Cruz Camp's Cheating Stole Iowa from Trump

Published on Feb 3, 2016

This is a stunning indictment of the Cruz Campaign's cheating scandal. Karl Rove explains how the tactic could have cost Trump Iowa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocgEmgXXwF8

 

[DannyBoy]

It is not possible for me to have lost!!! Therefore, the count from the caucus (or "election" in Iowa) MUST be wrong. We MUST have a recount, so that the count can be corrected!!!!

It does not matter why I didn't win... or why the count is wrong, but it is!!! It has to be!!!

 

[MetalMan]

This was a establishment dirty trick. I think Cruse would have still won but with a lesser %, say 28%. It could explain how Rubio came from no where. Rubio looks strong, Cruse looks bad, Trump looks weak. Perfect win for establishment.

This is all speculation but in politics, this could easily be fact.

Mn

 

[curlysue]

I cannot believe I am going to even make reference to Rove. But, Rove is in agreement with Trump. I am unable to post the video. It was covered on Fox news. If someone could post a link, greatly appreciated.

 

[Be Well]

Ted Cruz's claims about CNN are 'false'

http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/03/media/ted-cruz-ben-carson-cnn-controversy/index.html

Brian Stelter @brianstelter February 3, 2016: 7:39 PM ET

Ted Cruz, under fire for misinforming Iowa voters about the status of his rival Ben Carson's campaign, is wrongly claiming that it is CNN's fault.

In a strongly worded statement on Wednesday evening, CNN said, "Senator Cruz's claims about CNN are false. At no point did the network indicate Dr. Carson would suspend his campaign."

The controversy stems from a CNN scoop that was broadcast Monday night, minutes before the Iowa caucuses began. Reporter Chris Moody received information from the Carson campaign that he would be taking a break from the campaign trail after Iowa.

Moody, and the other CNN reporters who followed up on the report, said Carson would continue campaigning after taking a break at home in Florida. His next stop, they said, would be Washington, D.C., for the National Prayer Breakfast on Thursday.

During CNN's live coverage, Jake Tapper and Dana Bash called the move "very unusual," but said nothing about Carson dropping out of the race.

Somewhere along the way, the story got twisted. Cruz campaign aides alerted supporters in Iowa that Carson might be a goner. Before long there were allegations that the Cruz campaign had suppressed Carson's vote total by spreading rumors that Carson was giving up on the race.

Shortly after the CNN report came out, Carson's campaign downplayed the significance, saying the candidate needed a fresh set of clothes. Meanwhile, political analysts generally agreed with Tapper and Bash's assessment that it was unusual for a presidential candidate to not rush to New Hampshire. Virtually all of Carson's rivals hurried to New Hampshire after the caucuses.

The next morning, Carson's side started lambasting Cruz for "dirty tricks." This prompted a half-apology from Cruz that pointed a finger at CNN.

"Last night when our political team saw the CNN post saying Dr. Carson was not carrying on to New Hampshire and South Carolina, our campaign updated the grassroots leaders just as we would with any breaking news story. That's fair game," Cruz said in a statement. "What the team should have done is send around the follow-up statement from the Carson campaign clarifying that he was indeed staying in the race when that came out. That was a mistake from our end, and for that I apologize to Dr. Carson."

Essentially the Cruz campaign ignored the inconvenient part of CNN's original report — that Carson was not dropping out of the race.

In fact, Moody said so explicitly on Twitter: "He plans to stay in the race beyond Iowa no matter what the results are tonight."

So the misinformation began with a kernel of truth — that Carson was catching his breath after the caucuses — but was transformed into something untrue.

CNN's statement laid out the facts this way: "Our correspondent reported the information provided to him by the Carson campaign. Dr. Carson's staff informed CNN that he would return home to take a 'deep breath' before resuming his activities on the trail. That information was reported accurately by CNN across TV and digital."

By Wednesday morning, Donald Trump had weighed in, accusing Cruz of "fraud" in Iowa, partly for misinforming voters about Carson.

But Cruz stuck to his story, telling reporters, "Our political team passed on a CNN news story that CNN wrote. The news story said that Ben Carson was not continuing from Iowa on to New Hampshire. He was not continuing to South Carolina. Instead, he was going home to Florida. That was a news story CNN had posted, and our political team passed it on to our supporters. It was breaking news that was relevant."

Cruz claimed that the media "wants to stir up a fight between Ben Carson and me."

When CNN anchor Brooke Baldwin played that sound bite from Cruz, she followed up with a forceful rebuttal: "When Senator Cruz, with all due respect, tries to throw my network and CNN under the bus, let me stand up for my colleagues and journalists here... We reported it accurately."

"I'm going to call out B.S. if I hear B.S. And that was B.S.," Baldwin said.

 

[Buick Electra]

I was watching CNN tonight and Erin Brown was taking Cruz's campaign manager to task!! I mean...

.

I don't know if CNN is spooked that Trump or Carson will call for an investigation, but Brown was making is CLEAR that what CRUZ sent out was nothing close to what CNN put out.

Removed image. Very bad taste. I apologize.

 

[Be Well]

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...z-camps-cheating-stole-iowa-from-trump-video/


BOOM! Karl Rove Breaks Down How Cruz Camp’s Cheating Stole Iowa from Trump (VIDEO)

Jim Hoft Feb 3rd, 2016 8:07 pm

On Monday Dr. Ben Carson accused the Cruz camp of foul play in the Iowa Caucuses.
Carson said the Cruz camp told voters Carson was dropping out and to support Ted Cruz.

Carson was right to be outraged…
The Cruz camp sent this message out at 7:01 PM before the voting started at the Iowa caucuses.

On Wednesday, Karl Rove, not a Trump fan by any means, explained how the cheating could have cost Donald Trump the election in Iowa.

“The Cruz Campaign, Spence Rogers, sends out a tweet. And the tweet is headlined, “Press says that Carson is going to take a break” so tell all the Carson people to campaign with Cruz At 7:53 the Carson people send out a release saying, “We’re here. We’re staying in the race. We’re going to New Hampshire and South Carolina.” And at 8:20 the national co-chairman of the Cruz campaign, Steve King, sends out a tweet saying, “It looks like Carson is getting out of the race.” Now they knew at this point that this was inaccurate.

“Senator Cruz in his initial explanation about this said we were sending it to our team, leaving the implication, I suspect, to most viewers, that this had to do with sending it out to staff members. No, no, no They sent this to their nearly 1,500 precinct captains. There are 1,500 precincts in the state. And they sent this message from Spence Roberts (Rogers). Now why does that matter. Now the gap between Donald Trump and Ted Cruz is 6,239 votes. There are 1,500 precincts. Do the math… If that message cost Carson four votes per precinct to switch to Cruz, then Cruz beats Trump. If he doesn’t switch four, then he loses. “

​

B.E. that is a very horrid image.....eeeek....

 

[Be Well]

Timing and content of the tweets is everything.

1. Supposedly the initial Cruz campaign tweet came out at 7 pm. They claimed that CNN was saying that Carson was taking a break and would have a big announcement later in the week. This was untrue. CNN did not say Carson was taking a break, nor did they say there would be a big announcement.

2. Carson responded by 7:53 that no, he was staying in. They were going to S Carolina and NH.

3. At 8:20, the national co-chairman of the Cruz campaign, Steve King, tweeted out that it looks like Carson is getting out of the race. THis went out to ALL of the precinct captains. They knew at that point it was absolutely not true.

Cruz later tried to say the tweets just went out to "our team" ....where most people would think it was just staff, when instead it went to 15-1600 precinct captains.

More info on Gabriel:


Ex-CIA agent leads new team of journalists in Cuba

Gabriel helped pioneer the use of social media in war-fighting and political conflict, and he was an early advocate for incorporating social media metrics into predictive intelligence and risk analysis. He is a subject matter expert and original researcher of interactive digital media strategies, social network analysis, international media research, text analytics, latent semantic indexing, strategic planning techniques, operational and organizational design, and complex system dynamics.

 

[Laurane]

And some of those voters could "assume" that Carson had said it might be a good idea to support Cruz, as nobody else was mentioned......so by insinuation, Cruz gets the extra Carson votes.

 

[bev]

B.E. that is a very horrid image.....eeeek....

Thanks, BW, I was going to say pretty much the same.

Buick, come on now. Most of your images are ok, but this one is beneath you

 

[Be Well]

Thanks, BW, I was going to say pretty much the same.

Buick, come on now. Most of your images are ok, but this one is beneath you

No pun intended, I'm sure....

Bev - I have articles to post on the EU Migration thread tomorrow! Maybe you can bump it sometime...

 

[Stardust]

Trump is referring to cruz/Staffers tweeting that carson was backing out of the race and people who were going to vote for him to vote for cruz.

Carson is pretty mad about it too.
“There is no place for this kind of unethical behavior in our American political culture," Carson said in a statement Tuesday, "and it only intensifies my desire to work extremely hard to break down the ugliness in this system.”

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Donald J. Trump
ý@realDonaldTrump

Ted Cruz didn't win Iowa, he stole it. That is why all of the polls were so wrong and why he got far more votes than anticipated. Bad!

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Donald J. Trump
ý@realDonaldTrump

During primetime of the Iowa Caucus, Cruz put out a release that @RealBenCarson was quitting the race, and to caucus (or vote) for Cruz.

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Donald J. Trump
ý@realDonaldTrump

Based on the fraud committed by Senator Ted Cruz during the Iowa Caucus, either a new election should take place or Cruz results nullified.

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I'll admit I did not read this whole thread. And, I won't.

Let's just get down to brass tacks here. The Cruz campaign picked this "info" up from CNN. BTW, the Rubio campaign put it out there too. CNN had it on TV earlirer in the day. They, apparently got it from either Carson or his campaign. Because him "going back to Florida" IS true. I can very easily imagine anybody hearing that would think he was "suspending" his campaign. You just don't go home in the middle of a presidential election if you have any expectation of winning.

So, IMO, Carson himself (or representative) in his campaign SHOULD have KEPT THEIR PIE HOLE SHUT about what he planned to do after Iowa. Most especially when talking to or within earshot of ANYBODY in the MEDIA.

Yes, I used all caps in a few places and I had good reason for doing it. Some people don't want to hear the truth or put blame where it should be. CARSON is to blame in this instance; NOBODY ELSE!

 

[fairbanksb]

I'll admit I did not read this whole thread. And, I won't.

Let's just get down to brass tacks here. The Cruz campaign picked this "info" up from CNN. BTW, the Rubio campaign put it out there too. CNN had it on TV earlirer in the day. They, apparently got it from either Carson or his campaign. Because him "going back to Florida" IS true. I can very easily imagine anybody hearing that would think he was "suspending" his campaign. You just don't go home in the middle of a presidential election if you have any expectation of winning.

So, IMO, Carson himself (or representative) in his campaign SHOULD have KEPT THEIR PIE HOLE SHUT about what he planned to do after Iowa. Most especially when talking to or within earshot of ANYBODY in the MEDIA.

Yes, I used all caps in a few places and I had good reason for doing it. Some people don't want to hear the truth or put blame where it should be. CARSON is to blame in this instance; NOBODY ELSE!

They only keep it going because of their love of Trump. It is cover for his bomb throwing. He throws bombs through twitter and the media and everyone else laps it up. Trump has no business jumping into the fray other than to throw bombs and get media coverage. The media keeps it going to fill empty news time and to keep the pot stirred up.

 

[packyderms_wife]

So, IMO, Carson himself (or representative) in his campaign SHOULD have KEPT THEIR PIE HOLE SHUT about what he planned to do after Iowa. Most especially when talking to or within earshot of ANYBODY in the MEDIA.

Do we have proof that Carson or someone on his staff said ANYTHING about his plans after Iowa? Just asking because the media is so trustworthy and all.

 

[LightEcho]

I am not surprised. If Cruz is going to lie about his passion and support of the constitution (violating it with his run for office), then this is small potatoes in a bag of dirty tricks. Cruz should either be nullified in Iowa or they shoudl re-caucus.

 

[Mixin]

So another words, if Trump or anyone else sees fraud going on, he/they should just keep their mouths shut because they have no business jumping in?? Well, some people never get tired of more of the same.

Whatever happened, it caused a 3500 -very early- jump in Cruz's votes and that number remained basically the same for most of the count.

Bill Mitchell was live-tweeting the results and noticed the strange large lead and commented on it a number of times. Here are the first few ones; earliest one at the bottom.

Cruz has had the same 3500 vote lead for an hour. Bizarre.

Rubio is 8 points above the DMR poll. That's just nuts.

How the hell does Cruz just maintain that same damned 3500 vote lead?

It's like Cruz built that 3500 vote lead early and it just stuck. So strange.

Here's the weird thing. All these votes coming in and Cruz just keeps that 3500 lead. Bizarre.

Marco Rubio at 22% is purely shocking.

Trump is dominating heavily evangelical areas won by Santorum. Who the hell would have picked that?

Trump is winning all of the rural areas and ted cruz is winning the cities. It makes NO sense.

How the hell is Trump doing poorly is Des Moines? That is nuts.

Cruz ahead by 2% with less than 1% of vote in. Meaningless folks. Relax.

Bill hicks ‏@Billhic02785574 Feb 1
@mitchellvii CBS just reported Trump 29 Cruz second 20

Early entrance numbers surprisingly high for Rubio. Later voters will go Trump since they were registering.

27% Trump
22% Cruz
21% Rubio
Very early entrance interviews.

https://twitter.com/mitchellvii

 

[Lavender]

So another words, if Trump or anyone else sees fraud going on, he/they should just keep their mouths shut because they have no business jumping in?? Well, some people never get tired of more of the same.

Whatever happened, it caused a 3500 -very early- jump in Cruz's votes and that number remained basically the same for most of the count.

Bill Mitchell was live-tweeting the results and noticed the strange large lead and commented on it a number of times. Here are the first few ones; earliest one at the bottom.

Cruz has had the same 3500 vote lead for an hour. Bizarre.

Rubio is 8 points above the DMR poll. That's just nuts.

How the hell does Cruz just maintain that same damned 3500 vote lead?

It's like Cruz built that 3500 vote lead early and it just stuck. So strange.

Here's the weird thing. All these votes coming in and Cruz just keeps that 3500 lead. Bizarre.

Marco Rubio at 22% is purely shocking.

Trump is dominating heavily evangelical areas won by Santorum. Who the hell would have picked that?

Trump is winning all of the rural areas and ted cruz is winning the cities. It makes NO sense.

How the hell is Trump doing poorly is Des Moines? That is nuts.

Cruz ahead by 2% with less than 1% of vote in. Meaningless folks. Relax.

Bill hicks þ@Billhic02785574 Feb 1
@mitchellvii CBS just reported Trump 29 Cruz second 20

Early entrance numbers surprisingly high for Rubio. Later voters will go Trump since they were registering.

27% Trump
22% Cruz
21% Rubio
Very early entrance interviews.

https://twitter.com/mitchellvii

I totally burned myself out yesterday posting about Cruz, Trump, and Iowa, so I was going to take a break today.....until I read your post.

I was following those Bill Mitchell tweets during the caucus. I figured something had gone wrong when Bill kept tweeting how all of a sudden nothing made any sense. I knew something was not right..

I think people are used to politicians being PC and are expecting Trump to play the role. But Trump being Trump, he kept it up until the truth came out. That is why I LIKE TRUMP!

The rest of the Washington politicians can take a walk as far as I am concerned.
____________________________________________________

Just for those who keep saying CNN was the one who first put out the report about Carson......

 

[Countrymouse]

I have no dog in this fight as I am still "standing on the sidelines" watching the candidates (and their supporters) slug it out with each other and waiting for the dust to settle.

However, I did just now go googling for a political cartoon that would show supporters of opposing political candidates each aggressively lined up ready to fight, nose-to-nose with one another, screaming "MY CANDIDATE CAN DO NO WRONG !!!"

Failing to find that, I found the below--which pretty much says the same thing, only in words:

Trump: “When I’m president, I’m a different person”
posted at 7:21 pm on January 25, 2016 by Allahpundit

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Toronto Star reporter Daniel Dale got more than 600 retweets for beaming out this Trump quote on Saturday, although when I googled it, I came up empty.


Daniel Dale Verified account
‏@ddale8

Trump acknowledging the act: "When I'm president, I'm a different person. I can be the most politically correct person you've ever seen."

5:36 PM - 23 Jan 2016


I tweeted Dale this morning and asked for the source. You’ll find it in the clip below, from a Q&A after Trump’s most recent rally in Pella, Iowa, at around the 1:48:00 mark. (There should be an ellipsis between the two sentences in Dale’s tweet but nothing was omitted that would change the meaning of what Trump said.) He’s talking about tone here, and he’s made this point about tone before. He’s aggressive and anti-PC on the trail, in a knife fight with 15 other candidates, because that’s what it takes to win, but if winning at the job of the presidency requires a different tone, then that’s the tone he’ll take. This must be the first time in American history where it’s impossible to predict not only what a major-party frontrunner would do as president — given Trump’s volatile political history, all we can count on is that there’ll be “deals” — but how he would sound. And that’s bound up in the other money Trump quote from this weekend:


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‏@PatrickSvitek

Trump: "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters."

1:31 PM - 23 Jan 2016
West Des Moines, IA

Glenn Beck, a Cruz supporter, called that sentiment “dangerous” this weekend. Trump obviously meant it as a joke, an exaggerated statement of how loyal his fans are. But it’s striking even as a joke because it proves that not only is he aware of the cult of personality around him, he’s counting on it to increase his freedom of political movement — and that is a little dangerous. Try to imagine the reaction among Cruz fans if he went out onstage today in Iowa and promised he’d be a “different person” as president with forays into political correctness as circumstances require. They’d be mortified. If you like Cruz, you like him because of what he stands for and the fact that he’s not afraid to piss off the right people in doing so. The instant he ceases to fill that role, he’s disposable. What Trump’s telling you in these two quotes is that those rules don’t apply to him. Barring some truly core betrayal, like signing a new amnesty into law, he thinks he can count on his fans to follow him anywhere. And if he decides that he needs to dispense with the tone, or the policies, that he’s been pushing on the trail and become the most politically correct person you’ve ever seen as president, then he, in his wisdom, must have his reasons. (Relatedly, Obama cultists started off as anti-war and anti-drone and anti-“unitary executive” in 2008 and have been shrugging at Obama’s deviations from that line ever since.) The amazing thing about the “Fifth Avenue” quote is that it’s a joke at his own followers’ expense. A friend called it his “Lonesome Rhodes moment,” in which a populist hero ends up laughing at the devotion of his own fan base. Judging from Twitter this weekend, the reaction to it from fans actually proves Trump’s point: Even though they’re the butt of the joke, they defended him on grounds that he was kidding, it’s hyperbole, and so on. Meanwhile, if Obama had made the same joke in 2008 at the height of his own cult of personality, conservative media would have needed smelling salts. It would have been treated as an ominous sign of arrogance and intoxication with power in a would-be commander-in-chief. But I guess we’re already past any illusions about that double standard.

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/01/25/trump-when-im-president-im-a-different-person/

 

[Coulter]

I have no dog in this fight as I am still "standing on the sidelines" watching the candidates (and their supporters) slug it out with each other and waiting for the dust to settle.

However, I did just now go googling for a political cartoon that would show supporters of opposing political candidates each aggressively lined up ready to fight, nose-to-nose with one another, screaming "MY CANDIDATE CAN DO NO WRONG !!!"

Failing to find that, I found the below--which pretty much says the same thing, only in words:

Trump: “When I’m president, I’m a different person”
posted at 7:21 pm on January 25, 2016 by Allahpundit

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107
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Toronto Star reporter Daniel Dale got more than 600 retweets for beaming out this Trump quote on Saturday, although when I googled it, I came up empty.


Daniel Dale Verified account
‏@ddale8

Trump acknowledging the act: "When I'm president, I'm a different person. I can be the most politically correct person you've ever seen."

5:36 PM - 23 Jan 2016


I tweeted Dale this morning and asked for the source. You’ll find it in the clip below, from a Q&A after Trump’s most recent rally in Pella, Iowa, at around the 1:48:00 mark. (There should be an ellipsis between the two sentences in Dale’s tweet but nothing was omitted that would change the meaning of what Trump said.) He’s talking about tone here, and he’s made this point about tone before. He’s aggressive and anti-PC on the trail, in a knife fight with 15 other candidates, because that’s what it takes to win, but if winning at the job of the presidency requires a different tone, then that’s the tone he’ll take. This must be the first time in American history where it’s impossible to predict not only what a major-party frontrunner would do as president — given Trump’s volatile political history, all we can count on is that there’ll be “deals” — but how he would sound. And that’s bound up in the other money Trump quote from this weekend:


Patrick Svitek Verified account
‏@PatrickSvitek

Trump: "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters."

1:31 PM - 23 Jan 2016
West Des Moines, IA

Glenn Beck, a Cruz supporter, called that sentiment “dangerous” this weekend. Trump obviously meant it as a joke, an exaggerated statement of how loyal his fans are. But it’s striking even as a joke because it proves that not only is he aware of the cult of personality around him, he’s counting on it to increase his freedom of political movement — and that is a little dangerous. Try to imagine the reaction among Cruz fans if he went out onstage today in Iowa and promised he’d be a “different person” as president with forays into political correctness as circumstances require. They’d be mortified. If you like Cruz, you like him because of what he stands for and the fact that he’s not afraid to piss off the right people in doing so. The instant he ceases to fill that role, he’s disposable. What Trump’s telling you in these two quotes is that those rules don’t apply to him. Barring some truly core betrayal, like signing a new amnesty into law, he thinks he can count on his fans to follow him anywhere. And if he decides that he needs to dispense with the tone, or the policies, that he’s been pushing on the trail and become the most politically correct person you’ve ever seen as president, then he, in his wisdom, must have his reasons. (Relatedly, Obama cultists started off as anti-war and anti-drone and anti-“unitary executive” in 2008 and have been shrugging at Obama’s deviations from that line ever since.) The amazing thing about the “Fifth Avenue” quote is that it’s a joke at his own followers’ expense. A friend called it his “Lonesome Rhodes moment,” in which a populist hero ends up laughing at the devotion of his own fan base. Judging from Twitter this weekend, the reaction to it from fans actually proves Trump’s point: Even though they’re the butt of the joke, they defended him on grounds that he was kidding, it’s hyperbole, and so on. Meanwhile, if Obama had made the same joke in 2008 at the height of his own cult of personality, conservative media would have needed smelling salts. It would have been treated as an ominous sign of arrogance and intoxication with power in a would-be commander-in-chief. But I guess we’re already past any illusions about that double standard.

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/01/25/trump-when-im-president-im-a-different-person/

Glenn Beck's opinion has no impact on me.

IMO he has sold out to the dark side.

 

[Countrymouse]

Glenn Beck's opinion has no impact on me.

IMO he has sold out to the dark side.

proved my point.


The article wasn't written by, or even ABOUT Glenn Beck......

 

[Mixin]

Trump is often asked if he's going to act the same way as president as he does during the rallies... loud, boisterous, etc.

He did say No. He even mentioned the high-class folks who come to Mar-al-Lago and request that he have dinner with them and he can be very PC in that group.

It seems like a plus, to me, that he can fit in with everyone from the Vulgarians to the elite.

 

[Buick Electra]

Thanks, BW, I was going to say pretty much the same.

Buick, come on now. Most of your images are ok, but this one is beneath you

You are absolutely right. That was in horrible taste and well beneath me and I should not have subjected the members to that garbage.

I just watched CNN literally SCRAMBLE yesterday to cover their butts so as to let it be known it was not their tweets that caused the Cruz campaign to tweet out what it did about Carson's campaign. I mean, Erin Brown was just attacking one of the Cruz campaign managers, and I thought, "executives at CNN must be crapping their pants in fear that Trump or Carson might bring a lawsuit." So instead of just typing that, I tried to be clever with a "poop in your pants" picture. When I typed in "poop in your pants" as my search line, with all the images that came up on Ixquick, you really couldn't tell what was going on, but with the one I posted you could, so I used it without thinking.

I have removed the picture and apologize. Thank you for taking me to task. I needed it.

Again, my sincere apologies.

 

[thompson]

Trump is often asked if he's going to act the same way as president as he does during the rallies... loud, boisterous, etc.

He did say No. He even mentioned the high-class folks who come to Mar-al-Lago and request that he have dinner with them and he can be very PC in that group.

It seems like a plus, to me, that he can fit in with everyone from the Vulgarians to the elite.

Of course it's a plus!

 

[Lavender]

I say we need more stuff on this. Just rubbing it in a little itty bit.

Iowa governor slams Ted Cruz for 'unethical and unfair' tactics

By Eliza Collins
| 02/04/16 02:40 PM EST

Iowa Gov. Terry Branstad is calling Ted Cruz’s tactics on Monday night “unethical and unfair” and predicts repercussions for his campaign.

"This thing that they distributed on caucus night saying that Dr. Carson was likely to drop out and his supporters should support Cruz, that is, I think, unethical and unfair,” Branstad said on Thursday, according to Radio Iowa. “I think there’ll be repercussions to that.”

Continued.....

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/terry-branstad-ted-cruz-218753#ixzz3zER9OGtR