Just Heard on 'CNN' Donald Trump is Calling for New Caucus Or Cruz Results Nullified

[Laurane]

I have been receiving Ted Cruz emails regularly - I just mailed them back and told them he is a liar and a cheat and he is not one of the "Anointed" ones, that his father speaks about, and that he will do anything to win.

And to take me off his list.

It won't upset anyone, but made me feel better........

 

[Oilpatch Hand]

Just heard on FOX News.....Donald Trump is calling for a new election or nullify Cruz's results.

Trump is saying Ted Cruz stole the election. The votes should be 'nullified.'

But wait...I thought Iowa didn't matter.

From what I have seen about Trump, he must have some facts to support his accusations, or he would not be saying this.

The "facts" in this case are that Trump received fewer votes in the Iowa Caucuses than Cruz.

Trump did not win, and this is the reason he is saying this.

If he prevails in New Hampshire, however, I would expect that all this will be forgotten, likely never to be mentioned again.

 

[Be Well]

To me, what this says is Trump is firing a warning shot across the bow, that he will not tolerate illegal dirty tricks from anyone. And that is a good thing.

 

[Hfcomms]

It is pretty damn easy for a billionaire who can supposedly fund his own campaign, and I use supposedly loosely) to call on everyone else to refuse Super Pac money. In case you haven't heard, according to the SCOTUS, Super Pacs are perfectly legal.

A lot of things in this country is 'legal' and you know darn well that those that spend big on politicians expect to be taken care of and that is one thing that is broken with the elections. At least a guy willing to spend his own money and not take huge contributions from the Pac's is not going to be one that will owe his benefactors anything.

Ron Paul actually ran a respectful campaign especially the first time with mainly donations from regular people. It can be done. And Trump even with all his money is getting a lot more traction with Twitter, Facebook and Youtube without spending the money on it. Looking at his campaign spending he really hasn't spent a lot compared to a few of the others except for reimbursing his own company for the airplane time. He hasn't ran a heck of a lot of advertising yet. I mean if you look at it most billionaires such as Soros and others spend all their time and money to make more money. Like Trump or not, think he is a egotistical blowhard or not a guy willing to spend his own coin and not go begging and haranguing hat in hand at least is respectable in that venue.

 

[Willow]

I thought this article was interesting. I don't know how to put the entire article here so hopefully it will be allowed. Basically it is saying that there could be more to the story than just Cruz being a sleeze. It may be that Rubio was behind the whole thing and this is being kept quite because Rubio is the real insider. I will let everyone read and judge for themselves. Looks like things are complicated. Of course I am also unfamiliar with the credibility of the author of the article so who knows.

https://politistick.com/uh-oh-was-marco-rubio-guilty-in-the-ben-carson-dropout-rumor/

Willow

 

[Be Well]

Meet Ted’s ex-CIA PR guy, Dan P. Gabriel. Gabriel is involved in SIGINT aka interception - which is turned into propaganda. His twitter handle is @danpgabriel and he was one of the people pushing the angle that it was confirmed to the Cruz campaign that Carson was dropping out. After called out on the lie, the agent deleted the tweet and denies everything in typical spook fashion.

ETA: Dang it! I tried four times to get the image to post. It's the Gabriel tweet that was pulled with Trump tweets.

Ha ha finally worked.

 

[Cyclonemom]

Wow, he and Sanders have one of the worst cases of butt hurt seen in a long time.

 

[Be Well]

It's a good thing, Trump is fighting sleaze tactics. He won't roll for lies, cheating, election fraud, etc.

 

[Silent Knight]

Wow, he and Sanders have one of the worst cases of butt hurt seen in a long time.

No kidding. Everyone knows that if he plans to be President he'll have to learn how to turn a blind eye to political corruption. No room for a whistle-blower in D.C. [/SARCASM]

 

[Lavender]

Ben Carson coming up on CNN....and he is not happy!

Neil Cavuto show.

Ben Carson calling for Cruz to fire the staffer who said he was dropping out.

Ben is ticked that the Cruz campaign is trying to sweep this under the rug.

He said basically, he is so tied of crooked politics, and having people not even care.

Ben had gotten a lot of intelligence saying he was going to do well at some caucuses.

Thank you Ben and Trump for standing up to the media who is trying to make you both look like puny little losers.

You are the only two who are standing up to the corruption!

 

[Millwright]

No kidding. Everyone knows that if he plans to be President he'll have to learn how to turn a blind eye to political corruption. No room for a whistle-blower in D.C. [/SARCASM]

I know, right?

Just the thought of someone that questions any business-as-usual, GOB, crony politics is horrendous.

OMG

I just can't un-think that now....

Something might change in DC.

 

[Cyclonemom]

No kidding. Everyone knows that if he plans to be President he'll have to learn how to turn a blind eye to political corruption. No room for a whistle-blower in D.C. [/SARCASM]

Then he'd better stop looking in the mirror every morning. The lies that man perpetrates are astounding.

Now don't get me wrong, I don't even think Cruz is eligible for the presidency, but to hold Trump up as some sort of corruption free saint is either ignorance at best, or brain washing at it's worst. I can't figure out which.

 

[WestGardener]

But wait...I thought Iowa didn't matter.



The "facts" in this case are that Trump received fewer votes in the Iowa Caucuses than Cruz.

Trump did not win, and this is the reason he is saying this.

If he prevails in New Hampshire, however, I would expect that all this will be forgotten, likely never to be mentioned again.

But there is a possibility trump could have won if cruz had not claimed carson was dropping out and wanted his supporters to vote for cruz. Question is, how many of cruz's votes were from carson supporters?

 

[fairbanksb]

A lot of things in this country is 'legal' and you know darn well that those that spend big on politicians expect to be taken care of and that is one thing that is broken with the elections. At least a guy willing to spend his own money and not take huge contributions from the Pac's is not going to be one that will owe his benefactors anything.

Ron Paul actually ran a respectful campaign especially the first time with mainly donations from regular people. It can be done. And Trump even with all his money is getting a lot more traction with Twitter, Facebook and Youtube without spending the money on it. Looking at his campaign spending he really hasn't spent a lot compared to a few of the others except for reimbursing his own company for the airplane time. He hasn't ran a heck of a lot of advertising yet. I mean if you look at it most billionaires such as Soros and others spend all their time and money to make more money. Like Trump or not, think he is a egotistical blowhard or not a guy willing to spend his own coin and not go begging and haranguing hat in hand at least is respectable in that venue.

Trump doesn't need to spend much money, he gets free advertisement from the media. He can't sneeze without it being covered. All the other candidates only get covered by the national media during debates. Even then, many of them get put on ignore. They only made it to the very first caucus in the election process and Huckabee, Paul and Santorum are gone. How many last until N.H. before dropping out. I contend that all but Trump and Rubio may as well save their money and drop out now because the media and TPTB have already decided who are choices will be.

 

[Lavender]

I don't know this fellow, Bill Still, but I like his opinion of Megyn Kelly. And his youtube ......is very, very, interesting

Wow, wow, and wow again! I knew Donald Trump was not going to sit still and let corrupt politics be business as usual.

Still Report #569 - Cruz Using Hi-Tech Dirty Tricksters

Published on Feb 2, 2016

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Good evening. I’m Still reporting on politics.

Last night, serious allegations of vote fraud were leveled against the Ted Cruz camp by Dr. Ben Carson.

Just before the voting began, Dr. Carson was receiving excited calls from his workers reporting a large turnout for him at caucus sites:

“I got calls from several people who told me their internal intelligence said that I was going to do extraordinarily well.”

It all started out 33 seconds before 7pm, which was the official time for the start of the Iowa Caucuses.

The Ted Cruz 2016 official Twitter site sent out this tweet seconds before the top of the hour:

“CNN is reporting that Ben Carson will stop campaigning after Iowa. Make sure to tell all of your peers at the Caucus supporting Carson that they should coalesce around the true conservative who will be in the race for the long haul: Ted Cruz!”

Perfect timing! The Cruz speakers at caucuses across Iowa got up and repeated the news to the assembled crowds and urged Ben Carson voters to switch immediately. How many is not known, but at the very least, several sites.

This was quickly followed by an official Ted Cruz 2016 press release on official stationary:

“Breaking news. The press is reporting that Dr. Ben Carson is taking time off from the campaign trail after Iowa and making a big announcement next week. Please inform any Carson caucus goers of this news and urge them to caucus for Ted Cruz.”

By 7:07 pm, a mysterious former CIA operative supporting Cruz by the name of Dan Gabriel chimed in on his twitter account:

“Source inside Ben Carson’s New Hampshire campaign just confirmed to me: Ben Carson is out. Choose Cruz.”

Gabriel’s Twitter account “@danpgabriel” boasts that Gabriel is:
“ex-CIA.”
It also boasts that Gabriel specializes in:
“insurgencies, foreign and domestic.”

According to one veteran intelligence source, this sets off massive alarm bells for anyone who has worked in the intelligence community. By claiming to have worked in domestic insurgencies, Gabriel is admitting to something that may be criminal, but at least flies in the face of the spirit of the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 and the Insurrection Act of 1807 and subsequent amendments that prohibit military personnel from being used to meddle in domestic policies within the United States.

According to the source, although CIA personnel may be exempt from these laws, such activities are at least frowned on by the intelligence community for obvious reasons – namely destroying the Social Compact – that government is your protector, not your enemy.

By the time you watch this report, Mr. Gabriel’s site may have been scrubbed.

Another odd thing about Gabriel’s twitter page is the banner photo features a bullet hole in the left temple of Saddam Hussein. What is the message here?

Also, Gabriel claims be following 58,700 people. How is that possible for one human being?

Late-breaking news on this Gabriel guy. According to a Reddit.com user, Gabriel is the founder of Applied Memetics, LLC. He is an ex-CIA counter-terrorism officer who has ties to – wait for it – George Soros.

One of Gabriel’s jobs is apparently to sow division between Carson and Trump. One Gabriel tweet stated:

“DIRTY TRICKS! #Trump campaign started #Carson rumor?? Odd,” tweeted Gabriel.
Gabriel tried to delete his tweets, but the Twitter user who captured Gabriel’s tweets, is “BigFry Social Media@BigFryMedia.

BigFry posted the Internet archive of Gabriel’s tweet for permanent proof of the deception operation just after midnight early this morning, Feb. 2.
[insert archive]

Then when he got up this morning, he exposed Gabriel to the world at 09:34 am:

“Attention Trump Supporters Cruz adviser @danpgabriel been caught in a dirty trick lying about Carson then blaming Trump. Block him & RT!”

As you can see, I’m running 10 hours behind the real-time events, but that’s still days ahead of the MSM.

Note to you Twitter experts out there. Send this stuff to me. I’ll put it up.

So, it looks like Ted Cruz is employing top Social Media agent provocateurs to work a Nixon-esque dirty tricks campaign.

If you remember, about a week ago, I dubbed Cruz, Clinton 3.0.

At least one other campaign immediately smelled a rat as well.

Ryan Rhodes, Carson’s Iowa state director, showed reporters a text on his phone from Barbara Heki, a Mike Huckabee supporter:

“The Cruz speakers at our caucus announced Carson was suspending his campaign for a while after caucus. They did this before the vote. Same thing happened at another caucus. Sounds like slimy Cruzing to me.”

 

[Lavender]

This goes with the post right above.

(from Bill Mitchill's twitter.....Bill Mitchell ‏@mitchellvii · 1h1 hour ago https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/694997976096366593
If Cruz was actually concerned about misleading people about Carson, why didn't he tweet a retraction as soon as Carson refuted?)

In case Dan Gabriel's twitter did not get seen.....here it is.

Here is Gabriel's latest picture above his personal info (he changed it to Trump). For him to have changed his picture, he must have been getting hit really hard on his twitter page.

Dan Gabriel

@danpgabriel

ex-#CIA. Former @HowieCarr intern.
Standing strong against Islamic terrorists and the boorish rhetoric of @realdonaldtrump.
NOT paid by any campaign or PAC.

 

[JF&P]

But wait...I thought Iowa didn't matter.



The "facts" in this case are that Trump received fewer votes in the Iowa Caucuses than Cruz.

Trump did not win, and this is the reason he is saying this.

If he prevails in New Hampshire, however, I would expect that all this will be forgotten, likely never to be mentioned again.

CRUZ lied about Carson Dropping out....if I were TRUMP I'd be screaming bloody murder too.

 

[Mixin]

I think it's Trump being Trump.

What better way to rain on the Cruz victory parade than to fill the news with his dirty tricks?

Just to lighten things up a bit, I give you

Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
AC/DC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7iRYTfd0Tw

 

[packyderms_wife]

Cruz on the news just said that Trump is throwing a Trumpatantrum.

 

[thompson]

Ted Cruz’s campaign manager, Jeff Roe will do anything to win. Just watch.

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/show...-Jeff-Roe-will-do-anything-to-win.-Just-watch.

 

[fairbanksb]

Just heard on MSNBC that after the devastaing lose in Iowa, Donald Trump is suspending his campaign. Okay, how many of you Trump supporters are going to switch your support to someone else based on what I just said. Raise your hands.

 

[Lavender]

Just heard on MSNBC that after the devastaing lose in Iowa, Donald Trump is suspending his campaign. Okay, how many of you Trump supporters are going to switch your support to someone else based on what I just said. Raise your hands.

Can you see my hand? If I was getting ready to cast my extremely important one and only vote and was told it won't count......it would take me all of one second to switch.

 

[Buick Electra]

edit.....Struck the word Election from title and replaced it with Caucus. What was I thinking.
edit again....Now I know where I got the word Election from...instead of Caucus....it was the word FOX NEWS used....they just said election again. So was it kind-of an election? Oh dear heavens...I just discovered I have been watching CNN all along, so strike FOX and use CNN. No wonder I was ready to switch back to FOX.

Just heard on FOX News.....Donald Trump is calling for a new election or nullify Cruz's results.

Trump is saying Ted Cruz stole the election. The votes should be 'nullified.'

From what I have seen about Trump, he must have some facts to support his accusations, or he would not be saying this.

Oh this is going to be good!

(PS....I'm switching back to FOX News. Even though they are no better than the others, they at least pretend to be.)

Dang!! Reluctantly switching to Fox too. Hey, Trump's on Gretta tonight! (I think Gretta is a secret Trump supporter).

 

[Buick Electra]

Guess he's upset that they didn't use his quarter for the toss..oh, wait..he didn't have one.

That thar was funny! I don't care who you think you are!

 

[fairbanksb]

Can you see my hand? If I was getting ready to cast my extremely important one and only vote and was told it won't count......it would take me all of one second to switch.

ROTFL.. This another rediculous dust up. To suggest that dedicated supporters are going to change their vote based on a rumor is beyond ignorant. This even happened before the actual caucus process began. That means they had all night to verify it before casting a vote. Silly season.

 

[JohnGaltfla]

As long as we have a technology based voting system it will be rigged!!!! I'm just embarrassed that anyone in this country would vote for Hitlery or Bernie. The Founding Fathers would be astounded by this!!! Everyone knows that Socialism never works, but yet they ignorantly embrace it. .

So raising your hand is a technology based voting system? Wowsers......

 

[Buick Electra]

Sanders wanted a raw vote count. I think that's a splendid idea! And let's do the GOP too! I would be curious to see how closely Microsoft's tally came to the actual tally.

Watch it in real-time going on here https://twitter.com/hashtag/Microsof...Fraud?src=hash

 

[Buick Electra]

Heh....watch lil Shrub starting gaining ground out of nowhere now. He is the establishment choice. Rubio is only a reserve policy. Trump and Cruz both are throwing a monkey wrench into the Republican establishment. They can't stand Cruz and Trump is a cowboy that they can't lasso. Seems that the sleeze factor is growing a mite with Cruz though. Pretty early in the process and there are some rather unethical things bubbling just below the surface. The Carson comment, voter violation report, ect.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/Microsof...Fraud?src=hash

 

[JohnGaltfla]

Heh....watch lil Shrub starting gaining ground out of nowhere now. He is the establishment choice. Rubio is only a reserve policy. Trump and Cruz both are throwing a monkey wrench into the Republican establishment. They can't stand Cruz and Trump is a cowboy that they can't lasso. Seems that the sleeze factor is growing a mite with Cruz though. Pretty early in the process and there are some rather unethical things bubbling just below the surface. The Carson comment, voter violation report, ect.

Only problem it was Rubio's people that Tweeted it first.

But don't let facts get in anyone's way.

 

[JohnGaltfla]

Wow, he and Sanders have one of the worst cases of butt hurt seen in a long time.

If he loses NH (which I doubt he will), we're going to need a MUCH bigger emoticon.

 

[JohnGaltfla]

Just heard on MSNBC that after the devastaing lose in Iowa, Donald Trump is suspending his campaign. Okay, how many of you Trump supporters are going to switch your support to someone else based on what I just said. Raise your hands.

Yo!

(because MSNBC and the internet never spread lies)

 

[Buick Electra]

Wow, he and Sanders have one of the worst cases of butt hurt seen in a long time.

 

[fairbanksb]

Only problem it was Rubio's people that Tweeted it first.

But don't let facts get in anyone's way.

Whomever started it really doesn't matter much. It's dumb. Let me put it this way. If I were to start a post showing a tweet that said, so and so is reporting a large explosion in NYC.
What is the first thing most everyone here would do. I know what you would do. You would start searching the various news sources to verify the report. So, I'm supposed to believe that people changed their votes when they had plenty of time to verify the report before casting a vote. I don't think so. Was it a dirty trick? Yes, happens every political season. Did it cost Carson votes. Hell no.

 

[FaithfulSkeptic]

Trump is referring to cruz/Staffers tweeting that carson was backing out of the race and people who were going to vote for him to vote for cruz.

Carson is pretty mad about it too.
“There is no place for this kind of unethical behavior in our American political culture," Carson said in a statement Tuesday, "and it only intensifies my desire to work extremely hard to break down the ugliness in this system.”

That's likely the root of it, and isn't it convenient they can chalk this up to a "misunderstanding"? We "misunderstood" what Ben meant when he said he was going home, so we assumed he was dropping out, but then a reporter heard us say than and ... and ... it's nobody's fault really. It's all just an unfortunate "misunderstanding". A very convenient one at that.

 

[Lavender]

ROTFL.. This another rediculous dust up. To suggest that dedicated supporters are going to change their vote based on a rumor is beyond ignorant. This even happened before the actual caucus process began. That means they had all night to verify it before casting a vote. Silly season.

So all of Carson and Trump's supporters who are upset about what Cruz supporter Dan Gabriel did......are just silly. Okay.

 

[Be Well]

Whomever started it really doesn't matter much. It's dumb. Let me put it this way. If I were to start a post showing a tweet that said, so and so is reporting a large explosion in NYC.
What is the first thing most everyone here would do. I know what you would do. You would start searching the various news sources to verify the report. So, I'm supposed to believe that people changed their votes when they had plenty of time to verify the report before casting a vote. I don't think so. Was it a dirty trick? Yes, happens every political season. Did it cost Carson votes. Hell no.

What part of the below is not clear? Cruz' PR man said they had CONFIRMED with Carson that he was dropping out. And then had people call caucuses to tell the people there that Carson was dropping out so they should vote for Cruz.

 

[WildDaisy]

And I don't condone what he did, but if I heard through a competing candidate that my chosen candidate was going to announce he was quitting, I wouldn't be changing my vote until I heard it from the horses mouth, not some rumor from a competitor. You got to be an idiot to believe what Cruz had said without hearing anything yourself directly from your own candidate.

 

[JohnGaltfla]

Whomever started it really doesn't matter much. It's dumb. Let me put it this way. If I were to start a post showing a tweet that said, so and so is reporting a large explosion in NYC.
What is the first thing most everyone here would do. I know what you would do. You would start searching the various news sources to verify the report. So, I'm supposed to believe that people changed their votes when they had plenty of time to verify the report before casting a vote. I don't think so. Was it a dirty trick? Yes, happens every political season. Did it cost Carson votes. Hell no.

It did too cost him votes!

Because Donald Trump told me ALL ABOUT CARSON back in November how dumb his supporters in Iowa were and how is like a child molester!!!!

 

[Be Well]

And I don't condone what he did, but if I heard through a competing candidate that my chosen candidate was going to announce he was quitting, I wouldn't be changing my vote until I heard it from the horses mouth, not some rumor from a competitor. You got to be an idiot to believe what Cruz had said without hearing anything yourself directly from your own candidate.

It was announced by Cruz' people to the caucuses. They didn't have time to vet it with Carson, and plus, Gabriel said that the Cruz people confirmed with Carson. Nasty, nasty!

 

[fairbanksb]

What part of the below is not clear? Cruz' PR man said they had CONFIRMED with Carson that he was dropping out. And then had people call caucuses to tell the people there that Carson was dropping out so they should vote for Cruz.

Okay you win. If you tell me Cruz is dropping out vote for Trump. I'm just gonna do that. What if I don't like Trump. I would rather vote for Paul? I guess that doesn't matter because the robots are going to do what they're told and vote for who they're told to vote for. You win.