CHAT I Was Attacked By A Pitbull Dog This Morning

Walrus Whisperer

Hope in chains...
I am personally afraid of big dogs. I am somewhat unsteady on my feet and can get knocked over by a big rambunctious dog. I'm also very allergic to their dander. It about killed me to give up my little polite chi chi type guy I had. I can pet a dog, but have to make sure I wash my hands. So I have chickens, some are quite personable, nothing like a dog though. Someday I want to ask GOD, WHY?.
 

CaryC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Pitbulls are not allowed to free range in the AO.

Meaning even if they get out of a kennel, they are free ranging. You can't tell by looking at them if they are mean, or their master is mean.

Have had locals who raised Pit Bulls attacked and killed, and have had a 12 YO maimed by them.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Here's the problem. Back in the 30's and 40's, these dogs were in fact pets. The breed, like others, was carefully nurtured for even temperament, as well as other traits. But then, the nig**rs started wanting them for "street cred." The breeders began breeding IN the aggressive traits that had been culled in previous decades. So now, the breed is almost uniformly aggressive and dangerous. If you go to a shelter, at least 80% of the dogs there are Pits. THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT.

I don't think one can find a "pure" (as in uncorrupted) example of one of these dogs in America today. And I would NEVER have one. Con-tractor above states how "gentle" his pup is. And I believe him. Until the moment it's not. And then it's too late. It's because of the corruption of the breed that people shouldn't own them today. I couldn't trust one.
 
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Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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Here's the problem. Back in the 30's and 40's, these dogs were in fact pets. The breed, like others, was carefully nurtured for even temperament, as well as other traits. But the, the nig**rs started wanting them from "street cred." The breeders began breeding IN the aggressive traits that had been culled in previous decades. So now, the breed is almost uniformly aggressive and dangerous. If you go to a shelter, at least 80% of the dogs there are Pits. THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT.

I don't think one can find "pure" (as in uncorrupted) example of one of these dogs in America today. And I would NEVER have one. Con-tractor above states how "gentle" his pup is. And I believe him. Until the moment it's not. And then it's too late. It's because of the corruption of the breed that people shouldn't own them today. I couldn't trust one.

I have been looking for a rescue pure bred dachshund over the last year after my 20 year old cat passed away.

In Milwaukee County, the shelters have about 80% pit bulls. Just like Dennis said.
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
I have been looking for a rescue pure bred dachshund over the last year after my 20 year old cat passed away.
In Milwaukee County, the shelters have about 80% pit bulls. Just like Dennis said.

Yep. True here and it was the same in Columbus, OH. The rescues would pull "their" breeds before anyone else got a chance and then charge triple to anyone trying to adopt.

I won't go there today.
 

ChicagoMan74

ULTRA MAGA
ALWAYS CARRY A SIDEARM.
Happy ending for the dog. Lucky it didn't end up with holes in it.

I remember running into some asshat where we keep our camper (that also has leash rules) that had his unleashed pit bull roaming around loose outside. Came on to my property and spooked the hell out of me too. My kids, including my daughter who was 4 years old at the time, were playing outside.

I calmly went over later and introduced myself and asked the gentleman for his cell phone number. He asks, "Why do need my cell phone number?" I reply, "because the next time your unleashed pit bull comes onto my property while my kids are outside playing I'll have to call you to come and retrieve your lifeless dog since it will have a few holes in it from my Glock."

I then turned around, and walked away.

Never had a problem after that. ;)
 

zeker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
saw a guy walking his leashed dog along my sideroad

obviously(to me) a new arrival in the neighborhood

i pulled up beside him

and said "nice dog.. I ve seen him out here b4.. without you"

i pointed to the house across from him, and said

'a dog got caught in trap at that property, last week"

i pointed to my property and said

"expect worse if he goes to that property"

folks seem to think that if a dog cant get TO my chickens, its ok

sry.. chickens SEEING a strange dog can cause them to stop laying

get frantic, and end up too stressed out,

leading to heart attacks etc

I deal with strays
 

hiwall

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Had the neighbor's (1/2 mile away) Great Pyrenees come over the other day. I more or less chased it towards home. It looked at me confused because I play with him whenever I'm visiting the neighbors and I'm the one who feeds him when they are away. But I know they want him to stay home and I don't really want him to stay at my place even though he can't really hurt anything over here.
 

willowlady

Veteran Member
Our pup, Lady is just nine weeks old. She's a Cocker Spaniel merle. She is very sweet, but loves to bite. Everything. We got her potty trained in about ten days, so I'm working on other behaviors with her. My attitude is: She's an animal. If trained properly, given love and feels secure with her pack, she will probably never misbehave to a great extent. But.... she's an animal. Just like our cats, who occasionally injure us if they are extremely startled or afraid.

Dennis' point about the nature and temperament of various breeds is well taken. Even so, Lady is an animal. We will make allowances for that, but if she should at some point become injuriously aggressive, we would not want her hurting anybody. That said, there are many dangerous animals out there of the species homo sapiens sapiens who are less human than Lady will likely grow up to be. IMO, the same standards should apply.
 

FireDance

TB Fanatic
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Our pup, Lady is just nine weeks old. She's a Cocker Spaniel merle. She is very sweet, but loves to bite. Everything. We got her potty trained in about ten days, so I'm working on other behaviors with her. My attitude is: She's an animal. If trained properly, given love and feels secure with her pack, she will probably never misbehave to a great extent. But.... she's an animal. Just like our cats, who occasionally injure us if they are extremely startled or afraid.

Dennis' point about the nature and temperament of various breeds is well taken. Even so, Lady is an animal. We will make allowances for that, but if she should at some point become injuriously aggressive, we would not want her hurting anybody. That said, there are many dangerous animals out there of the species homo sapiens sapiens who are less human than Lady will likely grow up to be. IMO, the same standards should apply.
When she tries to bite on you, make an “anck” sound and point at her.

There’s a blue heeler at work that likes to nip your heels (duh) but if you turn and point at him, he stops.

Y’all remember the vid of the little girl who went to the mailbox and a yote came after her? Well EVERY-TIME she looked at the yote it would run off. When she turned her back it would come back to stalk mode.

That’s apples and oranges, but it might work on your pup. Whatever “noise” you make with the point, just make it consistent. My dog knows certain commands and when you deviate she has noooo idea what the heck you want. One guy I know uses a point and “shoop” type of noise that works. And it’s not as loud as my “anck” noise. It’s probably more acceptable if you’re dealing with a high strung dog.

I don’t often yell at my dog - only if danger - and you can tell a big difference when you use the commands she’s learned in a matter of fact manner and when you yell whatever to her. I just have to say her name to grab attention, say my command and 9/10 she does whatever you ask. But you just have to make sure to get their attention first. In fact, in dog training we worked on “look at me” and used treats to reinforce. Now. That said, I have not done much of that with this particular pup. She’s a good listener. If she obeys me, I always tell her good girl. I usually get an immediate response every time.

Meanwhile, as much as I hate it, I would put down the pits that are in the shelters. Ours is full of them also. Perhaps it would cut down on some of the lunatic fringe of the breed. But alas, there is always some ass breeding more. Makes me so sad for these dogs.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Gee, a 9-week-old puppy biting everything! How unbelievable! (Lol)

I’m going to go against “conventional wisdom” on that issue. I’ve never discouraged my pups from biting. Biting TOO HARD, certainly. But a dogs mouth is its hands. Anything they want to interact with, it HAS to be using their mouths. Over time, my pups became super soft-mouthed, but they still bite me. These days, I’ll put my arm along the side his head, and he “side nibbles” my forearm. Secondarily, he’ll flop over on his back on the couch, and curl his head back toward me. I’ll reach out with my index finger and touch his nose. He’ll let me do that a time or two, then snaps, trying up to catch my finger before I can pull it away.

We play these games for hours. He’s quite the character.
 

willowlady

Veteran Member
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When she tries to bite on you, make an “anck” sound and point at her.

There’s a blue heeler at work that likes to nip your heels (duh) but if you turn and point at him, he stops.

Y’all remember the vid of the little girl who went to the mailbox and a yote came after her? Well EVERY-TIME she looked at the yote it would run off. When she turned her back it would come back to stalk mode.

That’s apples and oranges, but it might work on your pup. Whatever “noise” you make with the point, just make it consistent. My dog knows certain commands and when you deviate she has noooo idea what the heck you want. One guy I know uses a point and “shoop” type of noise that works. And it’s not as loud as my “anck” noise. It’s probably more acceptable if you’re dealing with a high strung dog.

I don’t often yell at my dog - only if danger - and you can tell a big difference when you use the commands she’s learned in a matter of fact manner and when you yell whatever to her. I just have to say her name to grab attention, say my command and 9/10 she does whatever you ask. But you just have to make sure to get their attention first. In fact, in dog training we worked on “look at me” and used treats to reinforce. Now. That said, I have not done much of that with this particular pup. She’s a good listener. If she obeys me, I always tell her good girl. I usually get an immediate response every time.

Meanwhile, as much as I hate it, I would put down the pits that are in the shelters. Ours is full of them also. Perhaps it would cut down on some of the lunatic fringe of the breed. But alas, there is always some ass breeding more. Makes me so sad for these dogs.
Actually, since we've only had cats previously, I've found myself hissing (I do a great cat hiss) at her a few times and it seems to work. It just feels so stupid to be cat hissing at a dog. I'll try that with pointing. Also, I've just introduced her to her plastic chewy bone (it has little spikes) and she loves it. I don't expect instant results -- she's a baby -- but I would like to have her biting re-directed by the time she's a year or so old. Agree about the pits in the shelters. Sad, but it is what it is.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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I call FireDance's sound the "Gong Show buzzer" (which is probably showing my age, but I don't remember ever watching the show- or when it was on. Just that annoying buzzer!)

It works *really * well. I suspect it translates as a growl to them... which is a sound women often have trouble reproducing deeply enough for it to be authoritative.

And yes, puppies chew. But interestingly, my impression of Cocker Spaniels is that they can be temperamental nippers... never owned one, but a series of friends in childhood had them (looking back, I'm wondering if they were some sort of status symbol! ) and they all came accompanied with strict warnings to *not touch or bother the dog"... usually with a sheepish explanation about how she was just so unpredictable!

As long as someone understands being the authority and enforces reasonable rules consistently, 99% of pups will turn out fine. But it's stunning how many people can't begin to understand that concept!

Summerthyme
 

FireDance

TB Fanatic
Gee, a 9-week-old puppy biting everything! How unbelievable! (Lol)

I’m going to go against “conventional wisdom” on that issue. I’ve never discouraged my pups from biting. Biting TOO HARD, certainly. But a dogs mouth is its hands. Anything they want to interact with, it HAS to be using their mouths. Over time, my pups became super soft-mouthed, but they still bite me. These days, I’ll put my arm along the side his head, and he “side nibbles” my forearm. Secondarily, he’ll flop over on his back on the couch, and curl his head back toward me. I’ll reach out with my index finger and touch his nose. He’ll let me do that a time or two, then snaps, trying up to catch my finger before I can pull it away.

We play these games for hours. He’s quite the character.
No. At that age they bite and mouth everything.

Ah yes, those razor blade teeth. Lol. Makes you look like you have been playing in blackberry bushes.

And how DO they do that contortionist thing? They look like totally cute spastics.

My info on biting was simply for those back biter babies. The herding guys I suspect. Have had two boarder collies though and they never nipped. Little buggers WOULD herd you though if you seemed to need it. (Older one rarely did, but pup was all into it.)

Goof balls.
 

FireDance

TB Fanatic
I call FireDance's sound the "Gong Show buzzer" (which is probably showing my age, but I don't remember ever watching the show- or when it was on. Just that annoying buzzer!)

It works *really * well. I suspect it translates as a growl to them... which is a sound women often have trouble reproducing deeply enough for it to be authoritative.

And yes, puppies chew. But interestingly, my impression of Cocker Spaniels is that they can be temperamental nippers... never owned one, but a series of friends in childhood had them (looking back, I'm wondering if they were some sort of status symbol! ) and they all came accompanied with strict warnings to *not touch or bother the dog"... usually with a sheepish explanation about how she was just so unpredictable!

As long as someone understands being the authority and enforces reasonable rules consistently, 99% of pups will turn out fine. But it's stunning how many people can't begin to understand that concept!

Summerthyme
Oh man. Cocker Spaniels. That’s another on my list of “absolutely nots”. Someone in our neighborhood had one and it was damned unpredictable and stupid too.

And yes! Gong show buzzer. That’s it!!! Lol
 

FireDance

TB Fanatic
Actually, since we've only had cats previously, I've found myself hissing (I do a great cat hiss) at her a few times and it seems to work. It just feels so stupid to be cat hissing at a dog. I'll try that with pointing. Also, I've just introduced her to her plastic chewy bone (it has little spikes) and she loves it. I don't expect instant results -- she's a baby -- but I would like to have her biting re-directed by the time she's a year or so old. Agree about the pits in the shelters. Sad, but it is what it is.
I think she will be fine in a few months with biting. In fact, you might as well buy at least one more of the bones (ask me how I know)

I would say “no bite” and then when she stopped, praise her and give her the chew bone. She won’t stop biting you when you say this since she’s so young, but one day it will dawn on her.

Besides, I agree with Dennis, this is a way of exploring the world. Even human babies put everything in their mouth for awhile. Not only is it a tactile thing, but watch a bunch of pups playing with each other. They bite each other until someone yelps or mom gets involved.

Biggest problem I am working on now is trying to get mine not to jump on me when we are playing. It would probably be very easy to do if I were the only person here. I’m working on that HUMAN and the fact that he thinks it’s soooo cute to let her pull the sleeves on an old sweatshirt he’s wearing. Arg.

Training a dog is really training the human. If you can do it, I would take her to obedience school. In fact, maybe just go watch a few advanced (second or third set of classes) and see what they do.

I might take the puppy class just for socializing. My dog LOVED her “school”. Lol. She was always so excited to go. Sigh. Still miss my baby. Sadie (new pup) has been fabulous, but I think there’s always that special dog.
 

FireDance

TB Fanatic
Cesar Milan. Great videos on training.
Yes. There are other great training vids there. And I forgot to post one I found SPECIFICALLY on puppy biting. This pup was 10 weeks, but I think a lot of behaviors in a younger pup could be cut down using this guys methods. Again, most of them we’re diversionary tactics, but he told owner it was perfectly natural behavior and so on. I liked his approach. He taught owner how to slow ‘er down a LOT. I’m sorry I don’t have a clue as to who this was, but watch several. Most have great ideas. But again, I think it’s the consistency that matters most.
 

FireDance

TB Fanatic
One cannot train-out genetic predispositions.
No. You can’t, but you can learn to handle a lot of them.

For instance I would NEVER expect to train a pit to be trustworthy. But like the Standard Schnauzer is supposed to have an extremely high prey drive. I got one and was worried because I have cats. Well, the cats became her job. If they were doing something they were not supposed to be doing, she would stop them by interrupting the behavior.

BUT, with the yard interlopers? She’d get those guys. The chipmunks and possums. Never had her bark at a person (well except some black guy - my shih Tzu did this as well). Otherwise, if person was accepted by me, she was cool. Very gentle dog. HOWEVER, the breeder knew I had a small child too. So there was some selection there. Her litter mates went on to be rescue dogs.
 
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Ogre

Veteran Member
We had a small, half-terrier dog that we adopted from the pound. Sweetest, most gentle dog you could imagine. Always welcomed visitors. One day, a friend stopped by and that dog did nothing but growl at him. He never attacked (we put him in another room to be safe) but it was obvious the dog did not like him. We did not punish the dog, and in over 12 years that was the only person he ever growled at. We decided the dog was smarter than we were. We didn't end the friendship, but we were always alert around him.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Thats fear based ignorance, just like covid. Pits aren't naturally mean, the morons that own them make them that way, period. The dog ran into the ops legs, omg put that dog down. Not a tooth mark on them. Real vicious. And to the ass poisoning dogs, id wipe your seed from this planet of you did that to my dog...


Guess you didn't read post # 26.
 

Rabbit

Has No Life - Lives on TB
An update. My computer is broken so I'm typing this on my tablet. When the dog is in the front yard with his owner he is on a strong chain. The dog belongs to my neighbor's ex so he doesn't live there full time.
My neighbor is a single mother who works just about all the time. I haven't had a chance to talk to her yet about what happened . I don't want to make trouble for her because her ex always leaves her holding the bag, but she has to do something whether she likes it or not.
If that dog had taken me down he could have killed me. I'm on blood thinners and it would have been bad.

I am very grateful .
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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Tying or chaining a dog is THE worst thing you can do in terms of increasing aggressive tendencies. If (when) they get loose, they often run amok. And God help anyone who ventures into their "territory".

Whether or not his actions were actually aggressive, older folks ARE more fragile, and no one should be in danger of being knocked down and injured in their own yard. The owners need to understand the seriousness of the dog's actions, and need to solve the problem so it doesn't happen again.

Because unfortunately, due to the high prey drive and the poor breeding choices in the breed, someone who gets knocked onto the ground, especially if they scream or shriek, may suddenly turn into real "prey" in the dog's mind.

Summerthyme
 

FireDance

TB Fanatic
The main thing is that you stay safe, Rabbit.
Yes. I hate that the woman is in the position she is in. But you really need to leave her a note to contact you ASAP or simply call whatever stands as dog control in your area.

The police report needs to be filed yesterday. The longer you wait on this, the more danger you put yourself in and the less action you will get from authorities.

I sure get it. But remember, that your compassion can get you hurt or killed in this situation.

Just write a generic note to her and don’t add information to it. (This is just what I would do.) Simply that it’s urgent and give your phone number.

First I would do the police/animal control thing. Because IF this dog belongs to some nut case other than her, well, you get the idea.

I hate it for this mom, but the life you save may not be your own, but one of her children or someone else’s. But you’re the one with the information. Get it out there before something tragic happens.
 

bbbuddy

DEPLORABLE ME
Had the neighbor's (1/2 mile away) Great Pyrenees come over the other day. I more or less chased it towards home. It looked at me confused because I play with him whenever I'm visiting the neighbors and I'm the one who feeds him when they are away. But I know they want him to stay home and I don't really want him to stay at my place even though he can't really hurt anything over here.
1/2 mile is nothing for a Great Pyr, they want to "protect" as much territory as possible.
 

hiwall

Has No Life - Lives on TB
1/2 mile is nothing for a Great Pyr, they want to "protect" as much territory as possible.
They have two. They are just huge fluff balls. One is a roamer and one stays home. I hope they cure the roamer because hunting season will soon be starting, archery is already open.
 

ArisenCarcass

Veteran Member
Here's the problem. Back in the 30's and 40's, these dogs were in fact pets. The breed, like others, was carefully nurtured for even temperament, as well as other traits. But then, the nig**rs started wanting them for "street cred." The breeders began breeding IN the aggressive traits that had been culled in previous decades. So now, the breed is almost uniformly aggressive and dangerous. If you go to a shelter, at least 80% of the dogs there are Pits. THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT.

I don't think one can find a "pure" (as in uncorrupted) example of one of these dogs in America today. And I would NEVER have one. Con-tractor above states how "gentle" his pup is. And I believe him. Until the moment it's not. And then it's too late. It's because of the corruption of the breed that people shouldn't own them today. I couldn't trust one.

Idiot breeders have ruined many "breeds" of Canis lupus familiaris.
I personally like mixed breeds and "Mutts."
In my experience, they have the best temperment and fewer genetic defects.
Even the Pitbull, at least the "good ones" would benefit from remixing the dogs back toward a more prototypical ancestor.

Gee, a 9-week-old puppy biting everything! How unbelievable! (Lol)

I’m going to go against “conventional wisdom” on that issue. I’ve never discouraged my pups from biting. Biting TOO HARD, certainly. But a dogs mouth is its hands. Anything they want to interact with, it HAS to be using their mouths. Over time, my pups became super soft-mouthed, but they still bite me. These days, I’ll put my arm along the side his head, and he “side nibbles” my forearm. Secondarily, he’ll flop over on his back on the couch, and curl his head back toward me. I’ll reach out with my index finger and touch his nose. He’ll let me do that a time or two, then snaps, trying up to catch my finger before I can pull it away.

We play these games for hours. He’s quite the character.

Off Topic:
I had a bad fever dream some time ago where I was a dog.
I saw through dog eyes and interacted with the world with my mouth.
Fetching a tennis ball was unnerving, because I felt like I was suffocating.....same with eating too fast.
It was an odd dream, and more than a little disconcerting.

Later that same day I was a Dolphin......all the same problems but add water all around.
 

Sebastian

Sebastian
An update. My computer is broken so I'm typing this on my tablet. When the dog is in the front yard with his owner he is on a strong chain. The dog belongs to my neighbor's ex so he doesn't live there full time.
My neighbor is a single mother who works just about all the time. I haven't had a chance to talk to her yet about what happened . I don't want to make trouble for her because her ex always leaves her holding the bag, but she has to do something whether she likes it or not.
If that dog had taken me down he could have killed me. I'm on blood thinners and it would have been bad.

I am very grateful .
Consider that your neighbor may be less than thrilled at having to keep her x's dog. Filing a report with the police and/or animal control may give her leverage to get rid of the beast.
 
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