My very first thought was wetnurses. I think it's still pretty common in the middle east and maybe more places.
I am currently in Mexico and there doesn't seem to be any shortages of formula here. I specifically looked today when we stopped in Soriana and Chaudrei grocery stores. Of course most here still breastfeed I am betting so that may be part of it.
I stand corrected I guess,I'm a guy sooooo. wtf do I know.
Goat milk is the closest to human milk.
It's naturally homogenized, which means lactose intolerant people can drink it.
And MY goat's milk tastes like melted ice cream... Unless you let it set for several days..... Then you can taste the goaty flavor..
I saw that too, and thought - when a person is in water over their head, and is drowning, you don’t call out to them, telling them what NOT to do.The other thing I'm struggling to wrap my head around is this line from the article.
- In the meantime, mothers should not try to dilute the formula, make their own or substitute it with cow's milk
So what are mothers supposed to do then??? Nothing? and let their babies starve??? If my child was needing formula and there was nothing available, you bet your sweet bippy I'd be searching out any and every formula recipe I could find to feed her.
"Don't water it down, don't make your own, don't feed regular milk". Absofreakinglutely ridiculous. In a crisis you do what you have to so you and your family survives. And this is definitely a crisis for these poor mamas.
^^^This. That was me as well. I tried for the first four months of my daughter's life. Had a useless lactation consultant who basically came into my room, told me to contact her if I had any questions, and left. I finally filled up days after leaving the hospital, but never had a let down and the milk dried up because my body thought I didn't need it. I was crushed, but continued on for months, trying desperately to get my milk flowing--and almost destroyed my health in the process. It was awful. I never made more than 1/8 oz at a time. It felt like being less of a woman. I imagine it feels the same way impotency feels for men; the very thing your gender is made for, you're incapable of doing.I won't ROAST you, but rather EDUCATE you. HYPOGALACTIA- the HIDDEN SHAME some women experience. When you seek help from "Lactation" experts, they often add to your feelings of shame for not being successful! This was MY experience.
My poor mother went through this, too, but raised 5 healthy children on oldtime "formulas" from 1945-1957.
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I "pumped" so often you would have thought there was a "Dairy" operation going on somewhere in my household from seeing all of the equipment I had!
^^^This. That was me as well. I tried for the first four months of my daughter's life. Had a useless lactation consultant who basically came into my room, told me to contact her if I had any questions, and left. I finally filled up days after leaving the hospital, but never had a let down and the milk dried up because my body thought I didn't need it. I was crushed, but continued on for months, trying desperately to get my milk flowing--and almost destroyed my health in the process. It was awful. I never made more than 1/8 oz at a time. It felt like being less of a woman. I imagine it feels the same way impotency feels for men; the very thing your gender is made for, you're incapable of doing.
I did manage to make 10 oz a day with my son, which was an improvement, but never was able to breastfeed him--had to use a professional pump given to me by my mil. I ended up making homemade goat's milk formula as well. I figured that, if I can't breastfeed my babies, at least knowing exactly what was going into their bodies was the next best thing.
Dear Wife of my youth breast fed our five live births.....loved every minute of it.
She was on the thin side, and slightly anemic, all her life, but she could make milk.
Just thought I’d share why this thread is of interest to me.
ok here goes ,I talked to the woman folk at my house today ,they all said,you can't or should not feed kids under 1 year cow milk , including my mom who is 80 .
I stand corrected I guess,I'm a guy sooooo. wtf do I know.
I'm with you there, I didn't have Hypogalactia but rather have Gilbert's Syndrome. I posted this on another thread discussing breastfeeding. I started nursing my firstborn and was thrilled to be able to, but her bilirubin (newborn jaundice) continued to rise rather than drop as usually happens after a few days. That's when I was diagnosed with Gilbert's, a benign hereditary liver condition that causes bilirubin levels in the blood to be elevated due to a missing liver enzyme that breaks down bili. I was passing my bilirubin to my newborn in my breastmilk.I won't ROAST you, but rather EDUCATE you. HYPOGALACTIA- the HIDDEN SHAME some women experience. When you seek help from "Lactation" experts, they often add to your feelings of shame for not being successful! This was MY experience.
My poor mother went through this, too, but raised 5 healthy children on oldtime "formulas" from 1945-1957.
Low milk supply - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
I "pumped" so often you would have thought there was a "Dairy" operation going on somewhere in my household from seeing all of the equipment I had!
I saw that too, and thought - when a person is in water over their head, and is drowning, you don’t call out to them, telling them what NOT to do.
Instead, you throw them a floatation device to catch or you jump in the water and help them reach dry land.
If mothers don’t do any of these things, then what should they do?
Call the funeral home to plan their little one’s funeral?
Not everyone can nurse that is false and medically simply not true.
My friend and her husband were living with us when she had a baby, she suffered unimaginable torture while trying to nurse - her breasts turned bright red, almost nothing came out and she said the pain was worse than giving birth.
When her baby started to lose weight because there was almost nothing to eat, our wonderful (and sadly now retired) lady doctor who raised five of her own before going back to get a medical degree gently told the Mom that it was time to switch to formula as her baby was failing to thrive. She also was treating my friend for the breast infections and conditions, but they simply didn't improve fast enough for the baby to have lived, if they hadn't switched to formula - or if formula had not been around we'd have gone emergency goat shopping.
So please, it isn't as simple as "they can just nurse" some women can, some have enough to provide for others either donated or as an actual wet nurse depending on the circumstances, and a lot of women only have enough milk for their own baby.
Working women, especially single mothers or low-income mothers who HAVE to go back to work soon after giving birth also often have no real choice. Day care centers mostly will not allow breast milk and pumping requires things like time and refigeration to work.
Fine for a lot of clerical staff, especially in places with good health policies but not so great for waitresses, fast food workers, grocery store clerks and other perfectly respectable but low-income/high public service types of jobs.
Didn't the royals use wet nurses a lot? Am I remembering that correctly?
The Handmaids Tale is getting closer. It scares the shit out of me sometimes if I let it.
Whew, what a world....
Importantly - if you don't have access to any other ingredients, the goat milk is fine on its own.PLEASE pass the recipe far and wide!!! It's much better than the canned stuff and anyone can make it.
I made it by the gallon, you need an immersion blender.
Prep Genrl - Goat Milk Baby Formula Recipe
I used this recipe for 2 of my grandchildren when their mother went back to work. It is great. I made it by the gallon. You would need an immersion blender.www.timebomb2000.com
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My sister in law could not nurse. Niece was allergic to all formula at the time. The pediatrician told them to find raw goat milk. I gave them the name of a local goat dairy. SIL called and told them her desperate situation. Dairy owner told her it was illegal for them to sell her raw milk, but if she brought clean, sterile containers, they would give her all the milk her baby needed. My niece thrived on their goat milk. By 8 months she was no longer needing the goat milk. But our family is forever thankful to the dairy family that provided milk. Second niece had no problem with formula.
Sure they did... "convenience" and all that! But so did the lower classes, usually on a much more informal basis. Substitutes were so poorly tolerated that it was clearly recognized that the best chances of an infant surviving was breast feeding, and women didn't have any squeamishness about putting another baby to their breast.Didn't the royals use wet nurses a lot? Am I remembering that correctly?
The Handmaids Tale is getting closer. It scares the shit out of me sometimes if I let it.
Whew, what a world....
Sure they did... "convenience" and all that! But so did the lower classes, usually on a much more informal basis. Substitutes were so poorly tolerated that it was clearly recognized that the best chances of an infant surviving was breast feeding, and women didn't have any squeamishness about putting another baby to their breast.
Summerthyme
failing to thrive
Thankfully, the "baby" in question is a lovely young women of twenty now and her sister is 18, her Mom had exactly the same problem trying to nurse the little sister but by then they knew the signs and switched to formula before the baby was in danger.Those words...wow. worst thing you could hear in the nursery/NICU.
We never left them alone in my hospital. There was a sign up sheet for volunteers (hospital staff w/ P-medic and above license) for those who could come and sit with those little ones so that staff could care for other littles and parents could get some rest.
Some pulled through, some didn't, but at least we tried and tried with everything we had.
I used to love medicine
If you know someone who is struggling to BF due to inadequate supply, three words: Mother's Milk Tea.
Active ingredient: fenugreek. It works. I know from experience. The difference was dramatic.
Plus, added bonus, you will smell like pancake syrup.