FOOD Desperate parents can't find baby formula amid national shortage & stores ration cans after infection killed baby and caused huge recall

[TxGal]

PLEASE pass the recipe far and wide!!! It's much better than the canned stuff and anyone can make it.

I made it by the gallon, you need an immersion blender.

Prep Genrl - Goat Milk Baby Formula Recipe

I used this recipe for 2 of my grandchildren when their mother went back to work. It is great. I made it by the gallon. You would need an immersion blender.

www.timebomb2000.com

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This truly is important info!

We know (but didn't know then or we would have helped) of a young new mother back in the 80s, who was literally living penny to penny, and couldn't breastfeed due to health issues. To save money, she used non-fat dry milk to feed the baby. I don't know if she added vitamins, but the baby suffered a nutritional deficiency (perhaps due to lack of fat?) that could have caused long-term health issues. Fortunately, her Pediatrician caught it in time and the baby was put on formula.

If there are any members having difficulty getting formula for their immediate family or someone close to them, perhaps put a call for help here on the forum? We have a great membership here.

 

[cyberiot]

I was in foster care for eight months in the mid-1950s before I was adopted. They fed me a DIY formula made with evaporated milk and Karo syrup. I was so fat they couldn't stuff my feet into shoes, but I made it.



My heart aches for the moms of kids with allergies.

Photo from: 1950s Homemade Formula Recipes Called for Some Shocking Ingredients

 

[Terrwyn]

This truly is important info!

We know (but didn't know then or we would have helped) of a young new mother back in the 80s, who was literally living penny to penny, and couldn't breastfeed due to health issues. To save money, she used non-fat dry milk to feed the baby. I don't know if she added vitamins, but the baby suffered a nutritional deficiency (perhaps due to lack of fat?) that could have caused long-term health issues. Fortunately, her Pediatrician caught it in time and the baby was put on formula.

If there are any members having difficulty getting formula for their immediate family or someone close to them, perhaps put a call for help here on the forum? We have a great membership here.

Count me in. I know nothing about babies though so would need explicit instructions on what kind. Would send from Amazon. PM me if in need.

 

[nomifyle]

“formula” shortage.......deliberate ?

ya think, thinning the herd don't ya know

 

[meezy]

I tried to BF my daughter but due to a few factors, it didn't work out. She got sick on regular formula, so we switched her to a soy formula (I was like that as a baby). She threw up even more often on that, so we switched her to the expensive non-allergenic formula. Even worse. Finally out of desperation we put her back on regular formula, and she was perfectly fine. Weird, I know, but you gotta wonder how many of these kids on special formulas really need them.

I did BF my second baby. Was on WIC so I'd have gotten formula free, so it wasn't that. Other than knowing it was healthier, what was my main reason? I was worried what might happen if there was a shortage of formula. True story.

You know, if everyone who COULD BF did, right now there'd be plenty of formula available for those who need it.

Yes, I know that isn't necessarily true because the manufacturers would probably be making less of it to begin with, but I can't help wondering.

 

[nehimama]

I was in foster care for eight months in the mid-1950s before I was adopted. They fed me a DIY formula made with evaporated milk and Karo syrup. I was so fat they couldn't stuff my feet into shoes, but I made it.

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My heart aches for the moms of kids with allergies.

Photo from: 1950s Homemade Formula Recipes Called for Some Shocking Ingredients

Late 50s - I remember helping my mom mix up a formula like this for one of my younger siblings.

 

[Fairwillows]

My daughters pumped, bagged and froze their extra milk. It was donated to friends and groups that were in need. Wet nursing and sharing breast milk is one solution, but.....you'd have to really trust her, I mean we're living in the craziest of times, with the craziest of people.

 

[school marm]

In previous generations, a pregnant woman's mother or sister would take measures to induce the production of breast milk in the event that the mother could not.

 

[Mark D]

My wife breast fed both of my boys, so I'm trying to absorb this "crisis" from that perspective...

I get that SOME women might not be able to nurse their babies, but I have a difficult time believing that the number is so high that a Formula shortage is THAT much of an issue. The nation is literally packed with breast milk. How is this not a "lifestyle" problem, instead of a "milk" problem?

I truly don't understand. Mothers literally come with built-in baby formula factories. WHY is this an issue? Convenience? Genuine widespread glandular dysfunction (we have PROBLEMS if that's it)??? This "crisis" doesn't make any sense.

 

[Mprepared]

When you use goat milk or cow's milk for formula, do you dilute it? My mother raised me and my brother on raw cow's milk, but I do not remember her ever saying she diluted it or added vitamins. My friend raised 5 kids on the evaporated milk and vitamins and some of her grandchildren. My daughter's friend used formula for her daughter and the dad or somebody in the house started drinking almond milk and this girl started using that for the baby. The doctor found out in time. She actually was starting to be below her height when she went for a baby well check.

My daughter started her first on a cow formula while trying to breast feed and later was put on a sensitive stomach formula soy formula. She had microscopic bleeding and was anemic from either cow or goat milk, but after coming off the formula she was able to drink raw cow milk. My second granddaughter, my daughter was able to breastfeed a little better, but still had to supplement and she made formula with raw milk and I will put the recipe below. Very, very expensive and I do not understand why all this is needed. Did people add vitamins to the raw cow or goat milk? Now my daughter is going to have a baby in Aug. and is planning on breastfeeding and if she cannot then she is going to use that formula again. I think my daughter just does not eat and drink enough water, but she knows this I think and her friend was able to breastfeed this time and could not her first one, so I think my daughter has more hope this time.

The Weston Price formula.
Raw Milk Baby Formula

Makes 36 ounces.


Our milk-based formula takes account of the fact that human milk is richer in whey, lactose, vitamin C, niacin, and long-chain polyunsaturated fatty acids compared to cow’s milk but leaner in casein (milk protein). The addition of gelatin to cow’s milk formula will make it more digestible for the infant. Use only truly expeller-expressed oils in the formula recipes, otherwise they may lack vitamin E.


The ideal milk for baby, if he cannot be breastfed, is clean, whole raw milk from old-fashioned cows, certified free of disease, that feed on green pasture. For sources of good quality milk, see www.realmilk.com or contact a local chapter of the Weston A. Price Foundation.


If the only choice available to you is commercial milk, choose whole milk, preferably organic and unhomogenized, and culture it with a piima or kefir culture to restore enzymes (available from G.E.M. Cultures 253-588-2922.


Ingredients

• 2 cups whole raw cow’s milk, preferably from pasture-fed cows
• 1/4 cup homemade liquid whey (See recipe for whey, below) Note: Do NOT use powdered whey or whey from making cheese (which will cause the formula to curdle). Use only homemade whey made from yoghurt, kefir or separated raw milk.
• 4 tablespoons lactose1
• 1/4 teaspoon bifidobacterium infantis2
• 2 or more tablespoons good quality cream (preferably not ultrapasteurized), more if you are using milk from Holstein cows
• 1/2 teaspoon unflavored high-vitamin or high-vitamin fermented cod liver oil or 1 teaspoon regular cod liver oil3
• 1/4 teaspoon high-vitamin butter oil (optional)1
• 1 teaspoon expeller-expressed sunflower oil1
• 1 teaspoon extra virgin olive oil1
• 2 teaspoons coconut oil1
• 2 teaspoons Frontier brand nutritional yeast flakes1
• 2 teaspoons gelatin1,4
• 1-7/8 cups filtered water
• 1/4 teaspoon acerola powder1, 2

 

[Firebird]

Barring medically compromised babies, do mothers just not nurse their children any longer? It's free!! If just 30% more mothers would nurse, that would help the supply chain. Now before I'm flamed, my wife did nurse our 1st two children, my youngest, who died at 10yo, could not digest breast milk, and I cannot imagine not having been able to get formula for her.

 

[Josie]

PLEASE pass the recipe far and wide!!! It's much better than the canned stuff and anyone can make it.

I made it by the gallon, you need an immersion blender.

Prep Genrl - Goat Milk Baby Formula Recipe

I used this recipe for 2 of my grandchildren when their mother went back to work. It is great. I made it by the gallon. You would need an immersion blender.

www.timebomb2000.com

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Thank you, eens. This will be printed off and placed in my emergency folder for "just in case".

My grandson was born with a number of critical heart issues. Little guy had two open heart surgeries in the first six months of his life. His pediatrician actually told my daughter to put a teaspoon of oil into his bottle of formula for the extra calories.

Edited to add...When my grandson was in the hospital after birth, my daughter had to pump to build and maintain her milk production. As soon as he was allowed, he was fed through an NG tube that breastmilk. She really had to push to be allowed to nurse him. She actually had to ask the lactation consultant if she could. It was much easier for the nurses to just feed him through the tube and they knew exactly how much he had gotten. Otherwise, they had to weigh him before and after.

Pumping was not an easy thing to do, so I totally understand young mothers not breast feeding their babies. Their places of employment may not be as welcoming of that particular action. There has to be a place to do the pumping and a place to refrigerate it. But a little bit of research will bring up and number of infant formula recipes. The problem is that doing it old school can be more time consuming than most young mothers want. God forbid a disposable diaper shortage!

 

[Babs]

My DIL has an tremendous excess of milk. She is pumping and freezing it. She is trying to donate her milk and you would not believe the red tape and time it takes to get registered to donate! It's going to take at least a month before she is approved to donate milk.

 

[Coulter]

Let's not forget the Illegal aliens - and their babies.

 

[Fairwillows]

Breastfeeding is almost a lost art (blessing). All my daughters and Granddaughters have breastfed their babes. But their friends? not so much. Hopefully they set an example for some of them. Working women may not have the time or the energy to breast feed or the devotion they need toward their children. But at this point in time, how many mothers are working? especially young ones. They like it the easiest way, to depend on society to provide. Wake up time, young ladies.

 

[Melodi]

My wife's breastfed both of my boys, so I'm trying to absorb this "crisis" from that perspective...

I get that SOME women might not be able to nurse their babies, but I have a difficult time believing that the number is so high that a Formula shortage is THAT much of an issue. The nation is packed with breast milk. How is this not a "lifestyle" problem, instead of a "milk" problem?

I truly don't understand. Mothers come with built-in baby formula factories. WHY is this an issue? Convenience? Genuine widespread glandular dysfunction (we have PROBLEMS if that's it)??? This "crisis" doesn't make any sense.

Until the 1970s in the US and most of human history when people lived in villages (not hunters and gatherers) there were a lot more babies and a lot more nursing mothers. It was common practice as others have noted, for sisters and sometimes even grandmothers (who had a baby at the same time as their oldest daughters) to share feeding. So if one woman had less milk, her sister, cousin, mother, young aunt, or even best friend may have made up the difference.

When we moved to Ireland around 1995/96, it wasn't uncommon for our twenty-something and above friends to come from families of between nine and twenty children, with an average of about four or five per family (birth control had been mostly illegal). By the mid 2000s, it was down to two or three children per family and now it is about an average of one - that is in ONE generation of about 25 years!

Also, in the past, at least in Europe and to some degree in the Americas, actual wet nursing was often practice up until after the First World War. While we think about it terms of "posh ladies," in reality it was often women who didn't have enough milk (or any milk) but whose families had the resources to pay a poorer women to feed their baby along with her own (of if her baby had died).

This practice took a kind of weird turn in the Old South that I'd rather not get into because of thread drift, that that and the use of very poor women for this job, may have been one reason the Irish medical professional freaked out when Nightwolf suggested "wetnurses" or "sharing nursing" in that emergency pedactric medicine class.

 

[Loretta Van Riet]

Ok ....I'm sure I'm going to get roasted here ,but here goes.
I get it that some babies / kids can't drink whole milk from a cow.
Some are allergic to breast milk,my youngest was.
Breast feeding is best .
Are moms being lazy and just don't want to use what God gave them ..if not allergic to cow milk and nursing is not an option.. just give them whole organic milk and be done with it..my generation was raised on it . ok flame away.

I won't ROAST you, but rather EDUCATE you. HYPOGALACTIA- the HIDDEN SHAME some women experience. When you seek help from "Lactation" experts, they often add to your feelings of shame for not being successful! This was MY experience.

My poor mother went through this, too, but raised 5 healthy children on oldtime "formulas" from 1945-1957.

Low milk supply - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I "pumped" so often you would have thought there was a "Dairy" operation going on somewhere in my household from seeing all of the equipment I had!

 

[catskinner]

20 years ago, or so, a elderly lady told me that she fed her baby some kind of jello mixture, way back when. The baby could not have milk and that was what the doctor put her on. I don't remember now what else, if anything she put in it. She said the jello had a lot of protein.
I don't remember now why the baby couldn't have milk, but this might be useful for babies with allergies. Has anyone ever heard of this?

 

[Cardinal]

My DIL has an tremendous excess of milk. She is pumping and freezing it. She is trying to donate her milk and you would not believe the red tape and time it takes to get registered to donate! It's going to take at least a month before she is approved to donate milk.

Why not get on FB, create or join a group for this purpose, and do an end run around the .gov?

 

[marsh]

Although I breastfed both my babies, It became more difficult when I went back to work. Maternity leave was only 6 months. With commute, I was away from them for 11 hours. Even with pumping, that became too large a span to manage. It became easier for them to take the bottle until they could move to solid food. I imagine many women are in similar positions.

 

[Cag3db1rd]

Apparently the pic is too big no matter what I do.

Here is the formula I used for my son when I couldn't produce enough.

Goat Milk Formula (8 oz bottle)
4oz raw goat milk
4oz boiled, clean water
2 1/2 tsp turbinado sugar or maple syrup (carb)
1/2 tsp coconut oil (sat fat)
1/2 tsp olive or avocado oil (unsat fat)
1/2 tsp nutritional yeast flakes
1tsp gelatin powder
1/4 tsp unsulphered molasses (B vitamins, iron)
PER 1 BOTTLE PER DAY
1 pinch probiotic powder, 1 drop vit D, 1 dose baby multivitamin drops.

I breastfed anyway despite not making enough. I made all the lactation cookies, drank all the lactation teas, pumped all the time. It just wasn't enough. I have a friend with goats, and he helped me with the raw milk. To this day, my son still prefers goat milk to cow milk.

Also, yolk from an over-easy egg is a good first food.

 

[eens]

20 years ago, or so, a elderly lady told me that she fed her baby some kind of jello mixture, way back when. The baby could not have milk and that was what the doctor put her on. I don't remember now what else, if anything she put in it. She said the jello had a lot of protein.
I don't remember now why the baby couldn't have milk, but this might be useful for babies with allergies. Has anyone ever heard of this?

While I was lookin for recipes this morning I saw ones with gelatin in them. I think that's what she meant. These look way too complicated compared with the one I used.

For the whole recipe and directions go to the link.

Homemade Baby Formula

An alternative to commercial baby formulas if needed.

www.westonaprice.org

Ingredients

• 2 cups whole raw cow’s milk, preferably from pasture-fed cows
• 1/4 cup homemade liquid whey (See recipe for whey, below) Note: Do NOT use powdered whey or whey from making cheese (which will cause the formula to curdle). Use only homemade whey made from yoghurt, kefir or separated raw milk.
• 4 tablespoons lactose1
• 1/4 teaspoon bifidobacterium infantis2
• 2 or more tablespoons good quality cream (preferably not ultrapasteurized), more if you are using milk from Holstein cows
• 1/2 teaspoon unflavored high-vitamin or high-vitamin fermented cod liver oil or 1 teaspoon regular cod liver oil3
• 1/4 teaspoon high-vitamin butter oil (optional)1
• 1 teaspoon expeller-expressed sunflower oil1
• 1 teaspoon extra virgin olive oil1
• 2 teaspoons coconut oil1
• 2 teaspoons Frontier brand nutritional yeast flakes1
• 2 teaspoons gelatin1,4
• 1-7/8 cups filtered water
• 1/4 teaspoon acerola powder1, 2

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[hunybee]

PLEASE pass the recipe far and wide!!! It's much better than the canned stuff and anyone can make it.

I made it by the gallon, you need an immersion blender.

Prep Genrl - Goat Milk Baby Formula Recipe

I used this recipe for 2 of my grandchildren when their mother went back to work. It is great. I made it by the gallon. You would need an immersion blender.

www.timebomb2000.com

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Thank you for posting that! I had to go to work and didn't have time to find and post my recipe!

Yes, please post and pass around to people! There are many recipes out there for goat milk formula recipes, with just slight variations. Many, many babies have been raised very healthfully and well on them!

I am seeing others are posting recipes as well!! Awesome!

Just remember what that article said though. It says the bacteria is in DRY milk (among other things). It isn't just in the formula. Be careful about where you get your ingredients.

 

[Babs]

Why not get on FB, create or join a group for this purpose, and do an end run around the .gov?

I think that is what she has decided to do.

 

[babysteps]

Breastfeeding is SO much harder when mom has to go back work. Pumping is less efficient than a baby, and even though employers are required by law to provide time and a place for it, the reality is there are too many employers that don't. And if you can't pump regularly, every 3-4 hours, your supply goes down, creating a terrible cycle of needing to feed more formula, so you make less milk, so you have to feed more formula, and so on.
That one factor - mom needing to work - is probably the overriding factor in 3/4ths of all babies being on formula. Which is a mind blowingly sad number.

 

[babysteps]

The other thing I'm struggling to wrap my head around is this line from the article.

• In the meantime, mothers should not try to dilute the formula, make their own or substitute it with cow's milk

So what are mothers supposed to do then??? Nothing? and let their babies starve??? If my child was needing formula and there was nothing available, you bet your sweet bippy I'd be searching out any and every formula recipe I could find to feed her.

"Don't water it down, don't make your own, don't feed regular milk". Absofreakinglutely ridiculous. In a crisis you do what you have to so you and your family survives. And this is definitely a crisis for these poor mamas.

 

[JBLTenn]

If I had to come up with a diy substitute for breast milk, I would consider organic extra virgin coconut as an ingredient:

Searched and found this. The rest of article is at link

Coconut oil equal to Mothers Milk
By: Agrigators Agrigatorsindia

COCONUT OIL IS EQUAL TO MOTHER'S MILK

Mothers milk AND Coconut oil both owe their magnificent antimicrobial qualities to a group of saturated fatty acids called Medium Chain Fatty Acids (MCFA).

Milk, nature’s perfect food, was designed by God to provide all the nutrients your baby requires within the first year or so of life.

Studies have shown that breastfed babies gain added protection against:

Heart disease

Obesity

Asthma

Diabetes (Type 1 & 2)

Respiratory infections

Allergies

… many more…

Multiple Similarities

Both human milk AND coconut oil have more Saturated Fatty Acids (SaFA) than Monounsaturated Fatty Acids (MUFA) and Polyunsaturated Fatty Acids (PUFA).

Breast milk relies principally on MCFAs to protect newborn infants from infections. Coconut oil depends on MCFAs as well to annihilate a long list of bacteria, viruses, fungi and other harmful microorganisms.

There are three MCFAs: Lauric acid, Caprylic acid and Capric acid. The most powerful of the three is lauric acid.

Lauric acid is the most plentiful MCFA found in mother’s milk AND coconut oil. And the ratio of lauric acid to other MCFAs in human milk is identical to that in coconut oil.

Without saturated MCFAs, particularly lauric acid, your baby would probably not survive long. Your baby would become malnourished and extremely vulnerable to disease and illness. That’s why MCFAs are added to most, if not all, baby formulas.

Coconut oil equal to Mothers Milk

Coconut oil equal to Mothers Milk - COCONUT OIL IS EQUAL TO MOTHERS MILKMothers milk AND Coconut oil both owe their magnificent antimicrobial qualities to a group of saturated fatty acids called Medium Chain Fatty Acids MCFA Milk

www-speakingtree-in.cdn.ampproject.org

(I hope the link works and I did this ok.)

 

[KFhunter]

Time to whip a tit and get them babies fed

 

[amazon]

I was in foster care for eight months in the mid-1950s before I was adopted. They fed me a DIY formula made with evaporated milk and Karo syrup. I was so fat they couldn't stuff my feet into shoes, but I made it.

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My heart aches for the moms of kids with allergies.

Photo from: 1950s Homemade Formula Recipes Called for Some Shocking Ingredients

If that's your name and DOB you might want to delete this picture. Though it was cool to see.

 

[packyderms_wife]

My wife breast fed both of my boys, so I'm trying to absorb this "crisis" from that perspective...

I get that SOME women might not be able to nurse their babies, but I have a difficult time believing that the number is so high that a Formula shortage is THAT much of an issue. The nation is literally packed with breast milk. How is this not a "lifestyle" problem, instead of a "milk" problem?

I truly don't understand. Mothers literally come with built-in baby formula factories. WHY is this an issue? Convenience? Genuine widespread glandular dysfunction (we have PROBLEMS if that's it)??? This "crisis" doesn't make any sense.

One of the problems is that many mother's work outside of the home and the babies end up in daycare... a good majority of daycares refuse to handle breast milk and for a variety of reasons.

 

[pauldingbabe]

My daughters pumped, bagged and froze their extra milk. It was donated to friends and groups that were in need. Wet nursing and sharing breast milk is one solution, but.....you'd have to really trust her, I mean we're living in the craziest of times, with the craziest of people.

Trust implicitly too!

Everything passes to breast milk. Including all drugs. Hell of a thing to get breast milk loaded with opiates.....and yes people would do this.

 

[coloradohermit]

I was in our local Kroger today and the reduced aisle was full of all kinds of Similac, so it looks like the locals aren't buying it.

 

[cyberiot]

If that's your name and DOB you might want to delete this picture. Though it was cool to see.

Not me, not mine. But similar to what I got.

 

[Firebird]

Our Walmart had some holes in the formula section

 

[hunybee]

The other thing I'm struggling to wrap my head around is this line from the article.

• In the meantime, mothers should not try to dilute the formula, make their own or substitute it with cow's milk

So what are mothers supposed to do then??? Nothing? and let their babies starve??? If my child was needing formula and there was nothing available, you bet your sweet bippy I'd be searching out any and every formula recipe I could find to feed her.

"Don't water it down, don't make your own, don't feed regular milk". Absofreakinglutely ridiculous. In a crisis you do what you have to so you and your family survives. And this is definitely a crisis for these poor mamas.

That is what struck me as well. No solutions.

 

[babysteps]

You know what the problem is, of course. It's that wayyyy too many people are idiots and if you tell them that diluting the formula or making their own or whatever DURING A CRISIS is okay, there's absolutely going to be a bunch of idiots that figure they can get away with it forever. And their kids will pay the price.
Ugh. The stupid is thick and deep enough to drown in. And I'm way too cynical anymore. Sigh.

 

[155 arty]

I was in foster care for eight months in the mid-1950s before I was adopted. They fed me a DIY formula made with evaporated milk and Karo syrup. I was so fat they couldn't stuff my feet into shoes, but I made it.

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My heart aches for the moms of kids with allergies.

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ok here goes ,I talked to the woman folk at my house today ,they all said,you can't or should not feed kids under 1 year cow milk , including my mom who is 80 .
I stand corrected I guess,I'm a guy sooooo. wtf do I know.

 

[raven]

When milk hits $30/gal, women will be getting pregnant for the extra milk money.

 

[NCGirl]

You would not believe the horrified and I do mean horrified and over-the-top reaction when Nightwolf was in medical school and this topic came up, especially in regards to emergency situations and he simply suggested, "why not bring back wetnurses?"

Why you would have thought he had suggested feeding babies raw pigs blood or something equally terrible and deadly.

It was a women teaching that class too, and she found the vary idea of a women nursing another women's baby for any reason to be simply shocking beyond belief!

I guess she never did any volunteer or field work in the third world, where it isn't that uncommon for women to do this, because the alternative is often a dead baby.

My very first thought was wetnurses. I think it's still pretty common in the middle east and maybe more places.

 

[Ordinary Girl]

i nursed my 4 children, including a set of twins. I cannot imagine the inconvenience of having to mix formula, sterilize bottles etc.. I also started all of them on cereal at 3 months old and started giving them sippy cups with regular cows milk at 6 months old. I think formula is a racket imho