PREP Dan Bongino - Warning to prep

[Demodave]

Get a couple of different size Dutch ovens. They have worked for centuries.

And the cobbler you made in them was the best I have ever had!

 

[Jackalope]

Depending upon what kind of dye your clothing uses, "hiding in the shadows" may not buy you anything... With an IR illuminator, LOTS of clothing glows like your plugged-in. It's all, bush, bush, tree, fence, bush, tree, tree, NUCLEAR GLOWING MARSHAMLLOW MAN, bush, bush, stump, bush tree. Most black clothing is the worst. Far too many camo patterns do the same thing.

And... If the brush is thick, no optic (thermal or light amplification) will help you: if you can't see through it in the day, you won't see through it with the optics.

You would be surprised what you can see with a thermal scope, and in many cases the thermal scope will detect threats better than many night vision devices. For example, we had a bobcat prowling around the homestead. I never saw it with a PVS-14 scope, but it showed up well in a thermal scope. In my experience, a night vision device doesn't penetrate brush very well, but a thermal scope will easily show body heat which glows like a beacon. Under the right conditions, foot prints will show on the ground for several minutes when using a thermal scope. I typically use a thermal scope to detect prey, and then use a night vision device to make the kill. I can't over emphasize the need for some sort of night vision/thermal device, because when the SHTF your enemies aren't going to bed when the sun goes down.

 

[TxGal]

Just catching up with this thread now. The link to Bongino's show is indicating it's no longer available.

 

[Mark D]

You would be surprised what you can see with a thermal scope, and in many cases the thermal scope will detect threats better than many night vision devices. For example, we had a bobcat prowling around the homestead. I never saw it with a PVS-14 scope, but it showed up well in a thermal scope. In my experience, a night vision device doesn't penetrate brush very well, but a thermal scope will easily show body heat which glows like a beacon. Under the right conditions, foot prints will show on the ground for several minutes when using a thermal scope. I typically use a thermal scope to detect prey, and then use a night vision device to make the kill. I can't over emphasize the need for some sort of night vision/thermal device, because when the SHTF your enemies aren't going to bed when the sun goes down.

For kicks, we write stuff on the pavement with body heat. Nothing very long, mind you. Works on walls too.

 

[Dobbin]

I dont have fences. But I do know my property lines.

Owner says in colonial times, children would be required to "walk the bounds" yearly. And at each significant mark, post or turn in the boundary line, the child would be "whipped" or spanked "to encourage remembering where the boundary was."

I don't think Owner was ever whipped in the modern era. But he seems to know where the boundary markers are.

He also has a map.

Dobbin

 

[Intestinal Fortitude]

I ride my mower, or dirt bike to check my fences. Getting old.

you mean experienced

 

[All4liberty]

*no one needs a ritual to make prayer effective. Either God does what you ask, or He doesn't. You cannot make it happen.

Ha ha, the ritual isn't for God, it is for us. All disciplines, such as foot washing or tithing are for our benefit, not Gods. You might want to try it before dismissing it. But lets not turn this into a debate, just a suggestion.

 

[Hacker]

FYI... I subscribe to Alex Jones on email. Today's email said that NATO decided to go to war against Russia. (or something like that)

 

[Anti-Liberal]

Get a couple of different size Dutch ovens. They have worked for centuries.

If I mention a dutch oven my wife gets PISSED.

 

[155 arty]

Someone told us at the show this past week-end that in a year we would be in great demand. I have to wonder how far along that year before that comes true.

RR

My question on the night vision goggles; would these be visible by the ones being watched? I would hate to become a beacon while trying to keep an eye out for other critters.

Only if using infrared, if they are using thermals your screwed

 

[155 arty]

You would be surprised what you can see with a thermal scope, and in many cases the thermal scope will detect threats better than many night vision devices. For example, we had a bobcat prowling around the homestead. I never saw it with a PVS-14 scope, but it showed up well in a thermal scope. In my experience, a night vision device doesn't penetrate brush very well, but a thermal scope will easily show body heat which glows like a beacon. Under the right conditions, foot prints will show on the ground for several minutes when using a thermal scope. I typically use a thermal scope to detect prey, and then use a night vision device to make the kill. I can't over emphasize the need for some sort of night vision/thermal device, because when the SHTF your enemies aren't going to bed when the sun goes down.

As the Fonz would say ,correctemundo

 

[jward]

If Dan is just joining the party he's literally decades late and dollars short- though even the deaf dumb and mute are beginning to read the writing on the wall these past few months.

Having said that, I really liked your bringing actionable material into the conversation; yep, I've "prayed property lines against prey" for decades now, but never heard it discussed by another. . .

Most of my do-due list now boils down to having the plans and the items to implement the plan to turn the kitchen into 600+ sf "settlers style survival cabin" but not actually being able to tell you where those bits and bobs are stored/located around the homestead.
..yup, in other words, they're useless. :: hangs head in shame ::

Anyway. C'mon folk, take him seriously, the globe is on fire, and it's not just the hired crisis actors crawling the country at this point, it's the real deal and it may just roll up your street before all is said and done.

Dan Bongino's show today he talked about the Obama movie but as a warning to prep for a cyber power outage. Link to listen.

Start with prayer, walk your property lines in prayer asking God for his protection and provisions.

Looking at holes in my preps, or that need improved.

Night Vision on Amazon
Wood burning camp stove I need a way to heat water for freeze dried foods.
5 pack Duct tape for black out curtains.
Water filter Berkey candles
Hand crank radio without short wave. With shortwave

 

[bracketquant]

For kicks, we write stuff on the pavement with body heat. Nothing very long, mind you. Works on walls too.

I vaguely recall writing in a snowbank, as a child.

 

[workerbee]

1. Kelly Kettle is a good investment for any prepper

2. Carrots and you can see better in the dark


You're welcome!

 

[Publius]

This was background sound while I was driving around yesterday and saying being a preper is not a bad thing and I do not recall him saying anything about stock piling ammo, but depending on where you live you may need a fire arm to defend you and your food and it's you and your survival against theirs.

 

[Hogwrench]

I think I would prefer thermal. Do you have any brand/type recommendations?

AGM makes good entry level thermal. Don’t get the cheapest one because the range is not that good. I have a TM 10-256. It is mountable on my bump helmet with a J arm. It works out to about 500 meters and that is all I need around here. FLIR makes one called the scout which I have seen a few guys run with 3d printed mounts.

The new one that the military is using is a hybrid nv/thermal but costs about 40k so slightly out of my budget.

If Dan is just joining the party he's literally decades late and dollars short- though even the deaf dumb and mute are beginning to read the writing on the wall these past few months.

Having said that, I really liked your bringing actionable material into the conversation; yep, I've "prayed property lines against prey" for decades now, but never heard it discussed by another. . .

Most of my do-due list now boils down to having the plans and the items to implement the plan to turn the kitchen into 600+ sf "settlers style survival cabin" but not actually being able to tell you where those bits and bobs are stored/located around the homestead.
..yup, in other words, they're useless. :: hangs head in shame ::

Anyway. C'mon folk, take him seriously, the globe is on fire, and it's not just the hired crisis actors crawling the country at this point, it's the real deal and it may just roll up your street before all is said and done.

He is not just joining the party. He is encouraging others to join the party because of signs that he is seeing as well as intel that he is getting. I am pretty sure he is not dollars short either. lol.

Synopsis of the pertinent part of the show was that this new movie leave the world behind has the obamas as executive producers and when the producer talked to him he gave them ideas that “ scared the F..k out of them”. That added with statements from the world economic forum about a “cyber pandemic “ has him very concerned that this is their next plan. He has talked about this the last 2 days.

 

[Publius]

This was background sound while I was driving around yesterday and saying being a preper is not a bad thing and I do not recall him saying anything about stock piling ammo, but depending on where you live you may need a fire arm to defend you and your food and it's you and your survival against theirs.

Here's the big one! What about the grid going down for a few months?

 

[Night Owl]

Amazon:


They work amazingly. A propane grill burner seems to take forever to boil water.

 

[Mongo]

Simple question, long answer...

Good Night Vision will come with Eye Cups that seal against your face; this is to keep the light from the tubes (that your eyes see) from leaking out onto your face, so, that OTHER people with Night Vision won't see the light bloom on your face.

If you wear glasses, then you fold the Eye Cups back, and let the rubber base rest up against your lenses; if you do this, smart users dial the gain WAY DOWN, so as little light from the tubes hits your face as possible. The end result is essentially "enhanced" human night-adjusted vision, with the option to crank-up the brightness if needed... My experience is, un-aided eyeballs won't see the dim glow unless you're close enough to know they're there anyway. A shroud/veil off the helmet and down onto the goggles, that covers the face, will go a LONG way towards making this whole paragraph moot.

If your opponents have Night Vision, it will be a bit of a dance to find out who sees who first... Avoid being the first one to make some kind of movement - daylight or night vision, our eyes are attracted to movement.

Also, your dogs will still know somebody is out there, regardless of what time it is.

which is why we also have thermals

 

[mecoastie]

I use my thermal more than my NV at this point.

 

[Dobbin]

Are these "thermals" like Owner's "Bat Thermal Underwear?"

I don't know where he's getting the term from. Possibly a 1960s TV show?

Dobbin

 

[WalknTrot]

We just bought this camp stove. It is wonderful but it is not for a backpack. we use it outside and would be great if you are using pack animals. Weights 58 lbs for $153.00. Very easy to assemble and fun to cook on.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CM68XNC6?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

That stove looks like it's actually big enough to use, and comfortably.
Set it up on some to get some height, and there ya go. When you aren't cooking on it, use it for a junk-mail burner.

 

[West]

Oops.

Are these "thermals" like Owner's "Bat Thermal Underwear?"

I don't know where he's getting the term from. Possibly a 1960s TV show?

Dobbin

Thermal vs. Infrared Scopes: What's the Difference?

Curious exactly what is the difference between thermal vs infrared scopes? What about IR, infra red and heat seeking? We cover everything you need to know…

www.barrettrifles.com

Made me look.

Add..

How To Block IR Infrared Thermal Imaging

How to hide from thermal imaging, at least to an extent. Conceal IR Infrared heat signature from Drones or other thermal imaging devices.

modernsurvivalblog.com

 

[jward]

He is not just joining the party. He is encouraging others to join the party because of signs that he is seeing as well as intel that he is getting. I am pretty sure he is not dollars short either. lol.

We've been tellin y'all the same thing bout the signs--- those warnings about cyber and physical attacks here and in Europe are not the usual fear mongering and stampeding the weak minded sheeple into the chute; the risk is real this time.

 

[Marseydoats]

Here's the big one! What about the grid going down for a few months?

Most people can't survive 2 weeks. Our "Y2K" was a snow/ice storm that took the power out for that long, and it didn't stay on for another week after that. ALL of my neighbors, except the closest ones, went elsewhere until services were restored. Most of them had propane and wood stoves, but they just didn't want to deal with the extra work.
And last Christmas Day, a drunk took out a power pole, and most of the area were without power for several hours up until 2 days --- you wouldn't believe how some of the locals acted. One woman on the local chat board was threatening to murder everybody at the power company. I suggested that it would have been a better idea to do away with the drunk.

 

[WalknTrot]

Most people can't survive 2 weeks. Our "Y2K" was a snow/ice storm that took the power out for that long, and it didn't stay on for another week after that. ALL of my neighbors, except the closest ones, went elsewhere until services were restored. Most of them had propane and wood stoves, but they just didn't want to deal with the extra work.
And last Christmas Day, a drunk took out a power pole, and most of the area were without power for several hours up until 2 days --- you wouldn't believe how some of the locals acted. One woman on the local chat board was threatening to murder everybody at the power company. I suggested that it would have been a better idea to do away with the drunk.

Yup.
And, have to keep in mind:
These localized outages are hardly an indicator of what would happen in a widespread breakdown. Localized? People can go to the store, bank, motel, restaurant for ice, water, food, fuel, clothes, batteries, a generator. Might just be the next town that has everything you need. Plus, all of the local/regional resources are laser-focused on bailing out your azz and working the problem.
But even then, people can't and won't cope.

If a large part of the infrastructure breaks down - regionally or nationally - and everybody is in the same boat? No help from "outside?" I personally don't give it the infamous "three days".

 

[KFhunter]

Regarding the night vision, there is a difference between using it to go into combat (because of the IR) and walking down a path trying to not attract attention with a flashlight. For the low price, the one listed or like it would be useful.

Another item, because I would have a way of charging the batteries, this bike could be useful. It is pedal assist and could allow for quiet trips to locations withing 10 miles. If you have never rode on a pedal assist, they are amazing. Electric Bike

Speaking of e-bikes, a railroad one would be ideal for me in a shtf scenario, ride the rails right into town, and have a nice flatbed to load up groceries

 

[KFhunter]

Most people can't survive 2 weeks. Our "Y2K" was a snow/ice storm that took the power out for that long, and it didn't stay on for another week after that. ALL of my neighbors, except the closest ones, went elsewhere until services were restored. Most of them had propane and wood stoves, but they just didn't want to deal with the extra work.
And last Christmas Day, a drunk took out a power pole, and most of the area were without power for several hours up until 2 days --- you wouldn't believe how some of the locals acted. One woman on the local chat board was threatening to murder everybody at the power company. I suggested that it would have been a better idea to do away with the drunk.

I’ve done nearly a month back in the 90’s

Big ice storm, nearly the last house on the power lines

Watering cows sucked, we scooped it out of the river through the ice, and of course it was calving season

 

[John Green]

If Dan is just joining the party he's literally decades late and dollars short- though even the deaf dumb and mute are beginning to read the writing on the wall these past few months.

Having said that, I really liked your bringing actionable material into the conversation; yep, I've "prayed property lines against prey" for decades now, but never heard it discussed by another. . .

Most of my do-due list now boils down to having the plans and the items to implement the plan to turn the kitchen into 600+ sf "settlers style survival cabin" but not actually being able to tell you where those bits and bobs are stored/located around the homestead.
..yup, in other words, they're useless. :: hangs head in shame ::

Anyway. C'mon folk, take him seriously, the globe is on fire, and it's not just the hired crisis actors crawling the country at this point, it's the real deal and it may just roll up your street before all is said and done.

NYPD for 4 years and Secret Service for 12 years I’m pretty sure Dan has been doing what’s needed for his families safety for a while. You don’t get Presidential detail if you’re heads not on a swivel.
What should concern everyone he is warning is that he probably has some really good contacts in the know. Good for him for waking many in his audience up.

 

[psychgirl]

Most people can't survive 2 weeks. Our "Y2K" was a snow/ice storm that took the power out for that long, and it didn't stay on for another week after that. ALL of my neighbors, except the closest ones, went elsewhere until services were restored. Most of them had propane and wood stoves, but they just didn't want to deal with the extra work.
And last Christmas Day, a drunk took out a power pole, and most of the area were without power for several hours up until 2 days --- you wouldn't believe how some of the locals acted. One woman on the local chat board was threatening to murder everybody at the power company. I suggested that it would have been a better idea to do away with the drunk.

My neighbors all leave when we lose power on our lane, too.

They’ll go sleep for only ONE night at a hotel instead of just dealing with it.

****To be fair though, we lose power quite often down here and are left for last to get it turned back on, for some reason.

Last time was for three days. I was ready to strangle someone myself!

 

[Bad Hand]

What about water source? Our subdivision has a well plus right now there is snow. Iran is working on hacking the water systems without water you can't make coffee.

 

[Pebbles]

And the cobbler you made in them was the best I have ever had!

I LOVE cooking in my dutch ovens. Makes the best pizza and I get to cook outside at the same time. Baking anything in a dutch oven, from breads to roasts is easily doable once you get the hang of it. Dutch ovens are a must have for preps.

 

[KFhunter]

1st day isn’t a big deal, I plug Starlink into my jackery 500 and the girls R happy scrolling on their phones and calling everyone to talk about the power outage

2nd day girls R grumpy, no showers

3rd day I’m grumpy, grumpy girls = grumpy dad

4th day on - we’re just cruising now, genies are wired up to everything I’m just making sure fuel is topped off

If grid is down for the foreseeable future that would suck, fuel would become scarce. I’d be smoking and canning everything in 3 freezers and starting an ice house project immediately.

 

[Millwright]

NYPD for 4 years and Secret Service for 12 years I’m pretty sure Dan has been doing what’s needed for his families safety for a while. You don’t get Presidential detail if you’re heads not on a swivel.
What should concern everyone he is warning is that he probably has some really good contacts in the know. Good for him for waking many in his audience up.

He knows a guy...or few.

I don't think he's a click farmer either.

 

[Ractivist]

Oops.

Thermal vs. Infrared Scopes: What's the Difference?

Curious exactly what is the difference between thermal vs infrared scopes? What about IR, infra red and heat seeking? We cover everything you need to know…

www.barrettrifles.com

Made me look.

Add..

How To Block IR Infrared Thermal Imaging

How to hide from thermal imaging, at least to an extent. Conceal IR Infrared heat signature from Drones or other thermal imaging devices.

modernsurvivalblog.com

Lots of good info on the video at the bottom.

 

[Pebbles]

That stove looks like it's actually big enough to use, and comfortably.
Set it up on some to get some height, and there ya go. When you aren't cooking on it, use it for a junk-mail burner.

Actually, it sits up quite high on the legs. My husband has back pain and he is able to sit in his camp chair and feed in wood and cook without bending over.

 

[Mushroom]

If you don't have multiple ways to boil water or cook, you ain't "prepped"

Kelly Kettles are an inexpensive way to make sure you can have hot water quickly. They tend to be under $100 and small enough to carry with you. They come in small (about a pint) to a half gallon) and can use twigs or paper twists to good advantage.

 

[end game]

My question on the night vision goggles; would these be visible by the ones being watched? I would hate to become a beacon while trying to keep an eye out for other critters.

Stacked optics detector, yes they can see you.

 

[Samuel Adams]

Owner says in colonial times, children would be required to "walk the bounds" yearly. And at each significant mark, post or turn in the boundary line, the child would be "whipped" or spanked "to encourage remembering where the boundary was."

I don't think Owner was ever whipped in the modern era. But he seems to know where the boundary markers are.

He also has a map.

Dobbin

Funny how stuff used to matter.


Now, not so much.

 

[Bubble Head]

If I mention a Dutch oven my wife gets PISSED.

Just tell her she is going to have to get happy in the same shoes she got pissed in.