DISASTER China's Three Gorge Dam in Danger

Melodi

Melodi

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Well, I know from many sources that China is basically buying up the world's commodities, especially food supplies as fast as anyone will sell it to them (with a few misses for political reasons like barring official buys from Australia who they are mad at this week).

I think this may be a case of "watch not what they say but what they do"...

Of course, if the agricultural predictions are not as bad as suspected, they can always use the supplies for future food security in the event of war...
 
TheSearcher

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Are you sure about that?
The Dam has reached to a new high today, it seems.

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Wildweasel

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OldArcher said:
The 3GD is now undergoing repairs, and the immanent danger of collapse, vis-a-vis that wanker BDAnon, is no longer in the offing. Time to move on to other topics of doom and gloom- like the Election, and all of our allies under the gun from China...

OldArcher
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Repairs to the reported cracks in the structure need the lake to be drawn down to work on the interior and possibly the upstream face of the dam. No signs of the water level being reduced. I suspect that surface cracks will be filled so things look nice, but structural repairs that address the cause of the cracks will be lacking.

What's the Chinese translation for "Kicking the can down the road"?
 
dioptase

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Somewhat related (because of his former coverage of the dam and all of the flooding)....The Underground Silk-Railroad guy started posting on Twitter again on 10-11, so I guess he managed to stay out of a re-education camp. (His very first post was "Should I start posting anti #China tweets again? And why?" which is, um, interesting.)

No word on the 3GD from him, though.
 
Trivium Pursuit

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Wildweasel said:
Repairs to the reported cracks in the structure need the lake to be drawn down to work on the interior and possibly the upstream face of the dam. No signs of the water level being reduced. I suspect that surface cracks will be filled so things look nice, but structural repairs that address the cause of the cracks will be lacking.

What's the Chinese translation for "Kicking the can down the road"?
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CCP.
 
Trivium Pursuit

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Melodi said:
Well, I know from many sources that China is basically buying up the world's commodities, especially food supplies as fast as anyone will sell it to them (with a few misses for political reasons like barring official buys from Australia who they are mad at this week).

I think this may be a case of "watch not what they say but what they do"...

Of course, if the agricultural predictions are not as bad as suspected, they can always use the supplies for future food security in the event of war...
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Yes, famine is in the cards for them just from blowing up all those dikes upstream of the dam which is flooded tens of millions of acres of farmland. Which does not include all the hogs that died from swine flu, nor what the locusts have and will continue to do.
 
EYW

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Melodi said:
Well, I know from many sources that China is basically buying up the world's commodities, especially food supplies as fast as anyone will sell it to them (with a few misses for political reasons like barring official buys from Australia who they are mad at this week).

I think this may be a case of "watch not what they say but what they do"...

Of course, if the agricultural predictions are not as bad as suspected, they can always use the supplies for future food security in the event of war...
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Scary thought because we know the Chinese have been buying up American farm land and food processing facilities. They have also been hitting Oz hard. It is going to be hard to see American food being loaded up by the Chinese while Americans are going hungry or even starving to death. I believe we must extricate ourselves from Chinese influence and we must "nationalize" those food resources. Yeah, I know that sounds commie or socialist, but we need to take care of Americans first, get the commies out, deal with China, and GTFO of the UN.
 
DannyBoy

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OldArcher said:
The 3GD is now undergoing repairs, and the immanent danger of collapse, vis-a-vis that wanker BDAnon, is no longer in the offing. Time to move on to other topics of doom and gloom- like the Election, and all of our allies under the gun from China...

OldArcher
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I will believe there is no further danger when I see the flood gates open and/or I see the flow rate back up above 30000 meters cubed per second... It just looks so suspicious that the flow is being held below 30000 right now.
 
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DannyBoy said:
I will believe there is no further danger when I see the flood gates open and/or I see the flow rate back up above 30000 meters cubed per second... It just looks so suspicious that the flow is being held below 30000 right now.
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As CCP is primary news source, anything can happen. They are not constrained by facts, nor have they ever been desirous of crushing their own rice bowl. Given the opportunity of telling the truth, when their sun is on the wane, they will invariably lie. They are not “perfect,” so the truth will ultimately come forth. However, time is the main factor- to when they best are able to take advantage, or can obfuscate whatever the truth is- as always, to their advantage.

Nobody, yet, of the civilian satellite photo/sensor companies has released such data, as to show the damage- to the dam, the lands/waters surrounding-downstream, or the environs leading down to the sea... We can never accept anything that the CCP will say at face value- even if it means someday, that we must fight them to our last breath...

Lock & Load

OldArcher
 
TheSearcher

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TheSearcher said:
The Dam has reached to a new high today, it seems.

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Still Rising. I thought the status deserved a ping.

Does it seem to anyone else that they just can't seem to release any water now? I wonder why. Mechanical failure? No downstream to flow to? The situation has looked bad from the get-go, but this is crazy now.
 
The Snack Artist

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TheSearcher said:
Still Rising. I thought the status deserved a ping.

Does it seem to anyone else that they just can't seem to release any water now? I wonder why. Mechanical failure? No downstream to flow to? The situation has looked bad from the get-go, but this is crazy now.
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They over engineered the number of Uighurs needed to staunch the flow under the dam. It's clogged now.
 
Wildweasel

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DannyBoy

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TheSearcher said:
Still Rising. I thought the status deserved a ping.

Does it seem to anyone else that they just can't seem to release any water now? I wonder why. Mechanical failure? No downstream to flow to? The situation has looked bad from the get-go, but this is crazy now.
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And still going... there was a recent video somewhere about high flow coming to the dam, but I just can't find anything legit about high flow at this point... if indeed high flow is coming, and the below chart is correct, they are in a world of hurt. On the moo.com website, they do state that the numbers they are using are potentially suspect... see QandA bottom of the main page.

Note the recent blip in the outflow, which coincides with the slight lowing of the level...

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MinnesotaSmith

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Coco82919 said:
Prayers for the people affected by this. I have no problem with most Chinese, just their government.
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As long as they stay inside their country's internationally-recognized borders, and they don't send goods, microbes, electrons, missiles, or nukes outside of their borders.
 
samus79

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This was just posted by almost ready in the BdAnon thread in Alt:

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... and the 3 gorges dam is a meter from the top under the worst flooding catastrophe of the year. The summer flooding was the worst in 80 years, but the rains hit hard and this has been under watch since Dec. 10. Looks like it's hitting now.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1338671276571803650
View: https://twitter.com/ChrisKitze/status/1338671276571803650


0.87 of a Vote Chris Kitze
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Three Gorges Dam water level is less than one meter from the top. Dec 14th 174.09m


Deborah Maya
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China Flood: China Is Turning into China sea, more Flood is coming | Three gorges dam | 3 gorges dam - YouTubeG


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LokuLywuXxk

This video says essentially that this is worse than the last 3 floods, close to all-time worst ever. lots of pictures. Doesn't seem to embed, but the youtube link works.
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samus79

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DannyBoy said:
I realize that is tonque in cheek, but consider what that chart is showing... if it is accurate, why would they want the level at 175 meters with rain on the way... curious.
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I believe it was to prevent more flooding downstream of the dam officially, but supposedly the real reason was because of erosion in the spillways due to cavitation. Basically if they let more water out the spillways will cavitate to the point the dam will fail.
 
Doomer Doug

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It is a function of how much damage you can take downstream. If the dam level can't be lowered any more, it means you have so much water downstream you can't take any more.

What they are really saying is this "sea of China" means they are screwed and are afraid about Wuhan and Shanghai being submerged if they have to.
 
Doomer Doug

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We have had a lot of earthquakes recently in Asia, so maybe that is impacting the dam.

Of course, psychgirl, in China if you say shoddy construction due to corruption that is good for all three doors. :hof:
If it does go down, China will go to war with somebody or the chinese communists will get blamed.
 
Melodi

Melodi

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ShadowMan said:
Three Gorges Dam....damn hasn't that thing collapsed yet?

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Do you want it to? I mean personally, I'm really pretty happy that so far that 70 million-plus people are still alive.

On the other hand, I haven't forgotten the look on my housemate's face when she saw those cracks in the dam and read the word "cavitation."

She got really quiet and wouldn't say much, she's an ENGINEER that works on WATER TREATMENT Plants and is trained to work on dams (though they don't have any big ones in Ireland).

I take her stunned silence to be all I need to know that this situation is serious, and just because doom didn't happen last year doesn't mean it is over (unless they drain the entire river again and probably take the thing down and rebuild it).
 
nomifyle

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Melodi said:
Do you want it to? I mean personally, I'm really pretty happy that so far that 70 million-plus people are still alive.

On the other hand, I haven't forgotten the look on my housemate's face when she saw those cracks in the dam and read the word "cavitation."

She got really quiet and wouldn't say much, she's an ENGINEER that works on WATER TREATMENT Plants and is trained to work on dams (though they don't have any big ones in Ireland).

I take her stunned silence to be all I need to know that this situation is serious, and just because doom didn't happen last year doesn't mean it is over (unless they drain the entire river again and probably take the thing down and rebuild it).
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Its up to china to do something about it, does the chinese gov really care about those 70 million people, it would be less of them to feed. as for others caring about those people, do they care about what their leader wants to do to the 76 plus million of us that he wants to eliminate. Oh the humanity of it all, what ever happens, happens, its all in God's hands and I'm not giving much thought to it. Do I want to see innocent people die, of course not, does it keep me awake at night, no.

Would I celebrate if the dam broke, maybe, because it would cause the chinese government huge problems, that I would celebrate and then pray for the lost souls.

God is good all the time,

judy
 
ShadowMan

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Do you want it to? I mean personally, I'm really pretty happy that so far that 70 million-plus people are still alive.
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If it means that the Chinese Communist Party collapses....YES! If that requires 70 million-plus Chinese people to die in the process....as much as it would suck to be them.....YES! That's far better than 70 MILLION-PLUS Americans and other people around the globe dying in WWIII because of the Chinese Communist Party attempting take over of the planet. And don't think that's not what they are contemplating for our future.

Rule number ONE: NEVER underestimate your enemy.....and the Chinese COMMUNIST Party IS our enemy.
 
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