DISASTER China's Three Gorge Dam in Danger

LawPoet

Contributing Member
Dam "engineering"; the science of "cavitation"; and meteorological truth abhor politics. Generally accepted laws of physics operate on structures regardless of "one's point of view". But politics is a lens through which even seemingly immutable "Laws of Science" can be viewed. [Note: No one told Moses or Jesus Christ that "those Laws of Science" could not and would not ever be ignored, altered, or even reversed at the bidding of a Higher Power.]

So, looking at the status quo and a dam in distress, I do see efforts of a Higher Power to correct, warn, and instruct wayward children which, if ignored, might give rise to "a different form of instruction". Trump held up the flag of peace and cooperation to China, North Korea, and so many other "world players"-offering them not merely fair but even bountiful opportunities to embark on shared ventures tending towards peace and prosperity--based upon common values of fairness and honorable conduct. Trump didn't ask Xi or Kim Jong Un or _______ to adopt our political or social values--he just asked they "play fair" and "in good faith" act for the common world good using their values and society. Theose two, and others, did not merely reject such proffers of shared success, they spit on the offers and effectively declared they would rather war than seek peace.

Having tried "nice", the God of Nature now speaks with a different voice: Rev. 8:5--"And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake."

3GD's survival or efficacy
are now reliant on more than science. We are watching "real time" instruction and correction from On High; and Deity will not allow Xi or Un or any other tin tyrant to destroy America from without. Our peril is, were doing too good a job of doing it from within. I pray for the Chinese people, my brothers. For their tyrannical rules--nothing. Let the Waters Flow.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
Proverbs applies, Law poet, especially to the USA, and especially since we are the pedophile nation. Wisdom called and you mocked, so Wisdom in turn will mock you when disaster strikes, USA. I am sitting here 5 blocks away where OPENLY MARXIST SCUM BURNT BOTH BIBLES AND THE USA FLAG.
Forget about China, LawPoet, the disaster is here, now, in CONUS.
It will start in Portland. It will not stop here. :dstrs:
God is about to kick the USA in the ass so hard, he will
leave an imprint two inches deep.
 

LawPoet

Contributing Member
"...when disaster strikes USA"

Wicked are killing wicked in Portland, Minneapolis, Chicago, New York, and elsewhere. YES, a powerful CABAL, tool of Satan, rages the length and breadth of this once-more-humble & obedient nation. YES, the Lord is revealing the treachery and sin of Liberty's enemies (foreign and domestic). BUT, I take comfort in Psalms 7:9 "Oh let the wickedness of the wicked come to an end; but establish the just: for the righteous God trieth the hearts and reins."

Away from the coastal dens of sin; and the communist nests in Minneapolis and elsewhere, HEARTLAND AMERICA continues to seek to honor God and treat all men and women fairly. I am not afraid of God's trials, so long as I stand shoulder to shoulder with friends, neighbors, and fellow-patriots who hate sin and love justice. Again, I find solace in Psalms: "O love the LORD, all ye his saints: for the LORD preserveth the faithful, and plentifully rewardeth the proud doer." YES, a time of testing is coming everywhere. And if my aged, ailing life is required to assist freedom, let the enemies of freedom and honor come and take it. I know in whom I trust.

China is an existential threat to our freedom. Xi plans WAR; even now sending arms, funds, and cunning spies and agents to our shores--digging deep wherever they might be accepted. To ignore foreign enemies and only count domestic foes, is foolish. It appears past time to review the Oath of Allegiance:

"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God." YES, "so help me God".
 
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DannyBoy

Veteran Member
Speaking of cavitation Law Poet... Just watching the flow out of the spillway...

and it hit me... what I am seeing tells me there is cavitation happening in the spillway tubes... This may have been discussed further back in the thread before I started following it, but those splashes of water that shoot up much higher than the wash of the flow are a dead giveaway.

I am sure it has been discussed also that cavitation is indeed when a pocket of water vapor opens up in water flow, caused by a low pressure in the flow somewhere. It is not air appearing, it is a pocket of water vapor... the issue is when that water vapor shrinks back to nothing. The water slaps back closed like thunder does when the air slaps back into where a lightning bolt just happened.

Those pockets of water vapor are, in my mind, what is causing those pops of water to splash high into the air above the flow... my point is, whether or not the cavitation stories from China were based on accurate information, I believe there is indeed cavitation going on. Maybe the flow tunnels were designed to handle that, maybe not...
 

Troke

On TB every waking moment
Or maybe Africa in their place. China has been buying up African farmland for years and will likely ship all that gets produced to China to the detriment of the African people. They will expect the US in turn to feed Africa.
Hmmm! And the natives will just stand there starving while watching all that good stuff go down the road to the ships?

Interesting. Actually, I think the natives are already hungry, having run off all the white farmers replacing them with the locals who don't know how to farm and have no interest in learning.
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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Hmmm! And the natives will just stand there starving while watching all that good stuff go down the road to the ships?

Interesting. Actually, I think the natives are already hungry, having run off all the white farmers replacing them with the locals who don't know how to farm and have no interest in learning.

...have no interest in working.

The Toyes - Smoke Two Joints

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UUPY902Ph0
 

Zoner

Veteran Member
I see the hand of God bringing judgments upon China for what they are doing to God’s people in China.
The sins of the nations are piled high and have reached Heaven and now it’s time for God to act.
Revelation 18:4 “And I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues.
5 “For her sins have reached to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities.
6 “Render to her just as she rendered to you, and repay her double according to her works; in the cup which she has mixed, mix double for her.”
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
Hmmm! And the natives will just stand there starving while watching all that good stuff go down the road to the ships?

Interesting. Actually, I think the natives are already hungry, having run off all the white farmers replacing them with the locals who don't know how to farm and have no interest in learning.
The Chinese bought off the leaders and the military, Troke.
If nothing else, Amigo all thise whiny brats in Oregon screaming about fascists, etc will get a refresher course, Troke when the butchers of Tienmien Square, said to shot and killed 10,000' calmly machine gun any African stupid enough to protest.
 

Truthsearch

Doom is ALWAYS 6 Months Away...
So how long until this dam blows? I hate to say it, but the CCP brought all this negative karma on themselves with their persecution of Christians, treatment of Tibet, locking up dissidents, and slaughtering students in Tinneman square. Not to mention forced abortions and being all-around poor global citizens.

Call me vindictive or a pessimist, but a part of me is actually HOPING that the 3GD collapses and ends China as we know it. While I do feel sorry for the innocent people who will suffer, maybe this is what is necessary to get regime change. I know that I am not alone in this line of thinking.
 

OldArcher

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Wicked are killing wicked in Portland, Minneapolis, Chicago, New York, and elsewhere. YES, a powerful CABAL, tool of Satan, rages the length and breadth of this once-more-humble & obedient nation. YES, the Lord is revealing the treachery and sin of Liberty's enemies (foreign and domestic). BUT, I take comfort in Psalms 7:9 "Oh let the wickedness of the wicked come to an end; but establish the just: for the righteous God trieth the hearts and reins."

Away from the coastal dens of sin; and the communist nests in Minneapolis and elsewhere, HEARTLAND AMERICA continues to seek to honor God and treat all men and women fairly. I am not afraid of God's trials, so long as I stand shoulder to shoulder with friends, neighbors, and fellow-patriots who hate sin and love justice. Again, I find solace in Psalms: "O love the LORD, all ye his saints: for the LORD preserveth the faithful, and plentifully rewardeth the proud doer." YES, a time of testing is coming everywhere. I know in whom I trust. And if my aged, ailing life is required to assist freedom, let the enemies of freedom and honor come and take it. I know in whom I trust.

China is an existential threat to our freedom. Xi plans WAR; even now sending arms, funds, and cunning spies and agents to our shores--digging deep wherever they might be accepted. To ignore foreign enemies and only count domestic foes, is foolish. It appears past time to review the Oath of Allegiance:

"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God." YES, "so help me God".

Nice oath. Took similar when entering the Service in 1969, but as third generation miliary, have ALWAYS lived that way.

The wicked only killing the wicked, does not, in any way define what is happening in over 150 American cities, or anywhere around the world. EVIL is an equal opportunity slayer, not caring one wit, who, where, or when some one is killed. The helpless, the hopeless, and the innocent are considered "collateral damage." Likewise, the MSM has long gone by "if it bleeds, it leads."

Your God is not the only one that is pissed. Gaia/Mother Earth and Mother Nature, along with The Lady and Lord, as well as Nerthus, Odin, Freya, Tyr, and Thor are ALL pissed at the arrogant stupidity of Humankind... ALL Gods and Goddesses who are Life oriented, concerned/dedicated to the welfare of this planet, and all creatures thereon, are pissed.

So far, all I've seen and heard is Christians declaring their God is is bringing His judgment upon nationalities, without regard to the innocent. So much for mercy, love, and all the benefits of being a believer... Like Jim Morrison said, "Nobody gets out alive..." During the war, we used to say, "Kill 'em all, an' let God sort 'em out." Well no merciful, life giving God or Goddess would willy-nilly murder their own believers... No rational God or Goddess would do such a thing. Yet, you have many preachers wanting to cleanse the earth with fire, or otherwise. Such arrogance, such stupidity...

Think of the gravity of your words. Are you trying to bring people into your faith because of desire of a better way of life? Or, are you trying to scare them into believing your God? If the fear disappears, will they remain? What if your God still lets the helpless, the hopeless, and the innocent die? What about voices that are never heard, or ignored? Omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent? Hmmmm? All powerful? If so, why do "good people" die. To teach others a lesson? Fear is not a good way to recruit new believers. It's a strategy based upon slavery and control. Free will? Not in the aspect of bringing new believers into the fold... Once in, depending upon the church, it may well devolve into the "sheep" becoming "cash cows" and slaves...

The people of one faith are no "better" than any other. It's what they think, say, or do, that makes a difference. Many of the attributes of your faith, are found in others... If they vary in any way from yours, are they inferior? Are they to be shunned, derided, or vilified?

You, or anyone, is the sum of their actions. It's how we are judged. Calling down the fires of an angry God upon whole cities and nations, is irrational. Like the tantrums of a spoiled child...

Yes, China's Xi is planning war- a war that he cannot win, and will denude much of Mother Nature's wondrous lands and waters. People will die in the millions, if not billions. He doesn't care, and after watching tyrants murder and enslave peoples and nations all of my life, I'm not impressed with the prayers of many, going unheard, or not acted upon. Righteousness is not measured in the number of unanswered prayers. It's being constant, active, concerned, and available. Hmmm...

Instead of railing against what "is," or fulminating and thumping your chest, why not look for solutions, and putting them into effect? You, as an attorney, know the meaning of "facta, non verba." Deeds, not words. Emotion, without action, may relieve stress, but it does not ameliorate or change the situation.

Humankind is in danger deep. EVIL is danger close. Ignoring EVIL is survival contraindicated, most likely to end in death.

Don't pontificate- educate and lead.

Waking up at 0056 was worth it, seeing this, and other posts...

If you don't like what's here, what's coming, then don't wring your hands, and lament what you consider to be inevitable. Work in concert with others of like mind, and change what approaches, to remove the threats... Otherwise, you join the long list of creatures that became extinct... Likewise, don't lead others over the precipice before you... If you want to lead, to influence for what is best, do so, or let others who are survival oriented, lead...

We are in charge of our own, individual, destinies. Don't lead as by ex cathedra. That's the route of charlatans, and tyrants.

Thinking about these things may change your mind, attitude, and your life. One can but hope...

Blessed Be,

OldArcher, Nordic Inspired Witch
 

MinnesotaSmith

Membership Revoked
Or maybe Africa in their place. China has been buying up African farmland for years and will likely ship all that gets produced to China to the detriment of the African people. They will expect the US in turn to feed Africa.

Far better in that case that we sent Africa contraceptives, how-to gay sex manuals, and lots of machetes to settle disputes over land and food.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
did it fall down yet?
If you are so uninterested in this thread that you haven't read some of the posts by educated observers and even actual engineers (including one expert) here who have explained things, then why are you here?

For a quick review:

1. The dam could fall this afternoon or it might survive to stand after this year's flooding.

2. If the concrete is as damaged as the images (and reports) indicate that it probably is, then it is a giant White Elephant of a Dead Dam Standing.

Sooner or later (6 weeks, 6 months, 6 years) it can/will come down and probably be even MORE terrible and drown literally millions upon millions of people who will not be evacuated (as many are now) and the nuclear plants will not likely be shut down (as they are now, at least partly).

There, you have it and if you continue to just post repeated "did it fall down yet?" when you can see from the news in the thread it has not YET; then to me it feels like trolling the thread.

YMMV.
 

MinnesotaSmith

Membership Revoked
Related: When I watched "The Lord of the Rings" movies in theaters, I don't remember anyone in the audience sounding sad when the Ents broke down the dam and flooded Isengard. That was considered a happy ending for the good people of the world. So IMO would it be if the PRC had a maximally-destructive 3 Gorges Dam failure event, and for most of the same reasons.
 

OldArcher

Has No Life - Lives on TB
1. Cross reference this thread to new “China threatens Taiwan thread”. [Some dramatic attempt to distract the Chinese people from the most outrageous debacle in that proud nation's history is to be expected. The "100,000 year Wonder of the World" was flawed and corrupted from conception through design; approval; construction; evaluation; and management and this is known to the Chinese people.]
2. Remember the prophecies of Isaiah, including 8:19 "And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead?"
3.
IGNORE the wizards and their ilk and call upon the God of Our Fathers, to whom we [used to] daily pledge allegiance [and some of us still do].
4. Humbly pray for peace while preparing for DEFENSE.
5. Beseech Almighty God, a God of miracles who even now is "schooling the Chinese Tyrants" that He rebuke the evil of Beijing and "let God's people go" to freedom.
6. Watch the Lord of Hosts "make bare His arm". [Isaiah 52:10--"The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God."
7.
The tyrants will either cease their treachery or they will be swept away. I pray for BILLIONS suffering under the most brutal of dictatorships--but for the evil overlords, NOTHING. LET THE WATERS FLOW.
8. And then pray for America, as CABAL COMES, SATAN'S FORCES MARCH PUBLICLY, OUR SWORN LEADERS HAVE REPUDIATED EVERY HOLY OATH AND PROMISE AND [MANY] OF OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS HAVE FALLEN VICTIM TO THE LURES OF THE FLESH AND THE FANTASIES OF THE COMMUNISTS AND THE DEPRAVED.
Hell comes to America too. Only those who Look to God shall Live.

Miss your pulpit? Or, are you trying to expand your influence? What next, passing the collection plate?

*sigh*

This is supposed to be a SECULAR thead... Get a life...

OldArcher, Nordic Inspired Witch
 

OldArcher

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Related: When I watched "The Lord of the Rings" movies in theaters, I don't remember anyone in the audience sounding sad when the Ents broke down the dam and flooded Isengard. That was considered a happy ending for the good people of the world. So IMO would it be if the PRC had a maximally-destructive 3 Gorges Dam failure event, and for most of the same reasons.

The Lord of the Rings Trilogy was fiction. What could well happen at the Three Gorges Dam, is truly about life and death. From your signature, you appear to be a Christian. Does life seem so little in the scales of import? Do you, or your faith, value life so little? Think, really, deeply, think about your answer, before you give it. It will reflect not only upon you, but your God, and your relationship with Him...

Bright Blessings,

OldArcher, Nordic Inspired Witch
 

MinnesotaSmith

Membership Revoked
The Lord of the Rings Trilogy was fiction. What could well happen at the Three Gorges Dam, is truly about life and death. From your signature, you appear to be a Christian. Does life seem so little in the scales of import? Do you, or your faith, value life so little? Think, really, deeply, think about your answer, before you give it. It will reflect not only upon you, but your God, and your relationship with Him...

Bright Blessings,

OldArcher, Nordic Inspired Witch

Sigh. If your Bible contains the Old Testament, you'll see plenty of places God sent disasters (often floods) to kill (nearly always unbelievers) enemies of His people and/or the unrighteous. Example A: Noah's time.

P.S.: I don't accept criticism of my theology from anyone except other Protestant male Christians.
 
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OldArcher

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Thank-you, Ma'am!

May You and Yours Always Be Safe, Well, Happy, and Forever, Free...

Blessed Be

OldArcher, NIW
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
7. The tyrants will either cease their treachery or they will be swept away. I pray for BILLIONS suffering under the most brutal of dictatorships--but for the evil overlords, NOTHING. LET THE WATERS FLOW.

Tell you this, though, I disapprove of suicide on general principles, but if anyone found themselves in a room with rising water, no way out, and a gun with one bullet, I think I'd give them a pass. Drowning is NOT a pleasant death.
 

OldArcher

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Tell you this, though, I disapprove of suicide on general principles, but if anyone found themselves in a room with rising water, no way out, and a gun with one bullet, I think I'd give them a pass. Drowning is NOT a pleasant death.

As life is precious, I'd be sure that there was no escape, then release myself to go on to the next life...

Bright Blessings,

OldArcher, NIW
 

DannyBoy

Veteran Member
OK, see below, that other odd ball chute is in use... I don't remember what it was for, saw it on one of the diagrams on the thread. Has it been in use before?

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