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In a few hours, potentially tens of thousands will be dead, because of Nancy Pelosi!
WAR CHINA THREATENS TO INVADE TAIWAN
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All sides need a big war right now to blame collapse on. China’s banking and mortgage system is imploding, the dollar is failing and the U.S. economy falling apart and all the other western nations are in the same predicament. The WEF is salivating for their ‘great reset’ and the current systems can’t be maintained any longer. A big war provides cover for all parties to the conflict as long as it doesn’t get out of hand.
’Our policies were working and we were recovering nicely until the damnChinese, Americans, Russians, Ukrainians (insert your favorite boogeyman) started a world war, it wasn’t our fault.’ And on the other side with the famines, pestilences, crimes and violence running rampant people will be screaming for their governments to ‘do something’ and do something they will as the other side of the hegelian dialectic comes into fruition.
Got preps? Gonna need them…
’Our policies were working and we were recovering nicely until the damn
Got preps? Gonna need them…
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China Warns: Pelosi Trip Marks ‘Invasion’ and Military Has Right to Fire on Her Plane
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D., Calif.) / Getty ImagesAdam Kredo• July 29, 2022 2:30 pm
Free Beacon
Adam Kredo
July 29, 2022 2:30 pm
A Chinese Communist Party mouthpiece said on Friday that it could shoot down Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's plane if she makes a stop in Taiwan, a move he said is tantamount to an "invasion" of the island.
"If U.S. fighter jets escort Pelosi’s plane into Taiwan, it is invasion," Hu Xijin, an analyst for the Chinese state-controlled Global Times propaganda outlet, said on Twitter. "The PLA has the right to forcibly dispel Pelosi’s plane and the U.S. fighter jets, including firing warning shots and making tactical movement of obstruction. If ineffective, then shoot them down."
Pelosi is scheduled to depart Friday for a tour of Asia and it has been rumored that she will visit Taiwan. Tensions have been high ahead of Pelosi’s trip, with the Chinese government warning her against making any stop in Taiwan, the contested island that China has repeatedly threatened to invade.
Pelosi will visit Japan, South Korea, Malaysia, and Singapore. CNN reported on Friday that the Taiwan visit currently "remains uncertain."
Xijin also has said in recent days that the Chinese military should "accompany" Pelosi’s plane during her tour.
"The Chinese mainland must be brave enough to take this step of flying warplanes over the island, which, unlike warplanes flight around Taiwan, can truly reflect China's sovereignty over the territory, and is more substantial than any visit to Taiwan by senior foreign officials," Xijin said in comments highlighted by the Middle East Media Research Institute, which is tracking the situation. "Using Pelosi's visit to Taiwan to complete this leap is most likely to make it a peaceful transition."
President Joe Biden recently said that a trip to Taiwan by Pelosi is "not a good idea right now."
China Warns: Pelosi Trip Marks ‘Invasion’ and Military Has Right to Fire on Her Plane (freebeacon.com)
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D., Calif.) / Getty ImagesAdam Kredo• July 29, 2022 2:30 pm
Free Beacon
Adam Kredo
July 29, 2022 2:30 pm
A Chinese Communist Party mouthpiece said on Friday that it could shoot down Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's plane if she makes a stop in Taiwan, a move he said is tantamount to an "invasion" of the island.
"If U.S. fighter jets escort Pelosi’s plane into Taiwan, it is invasion," Hu Xijin, an analyst for the Chinese state-controlled Global Times propaganda outlet, said on Twitter. "The PLA has the right to forcibly dispel Pelosi’s plane and the U.S. fighter jets, including firing warning shots and making tactical movement of obstruction. If ineffective, then shoot them down."
Pelosi is scheduled to depart Friday for a tour of Asia and it has been rumored that she will visit Taiwan. Tensions have been high ahead of Pelosi’s trip, with the Chinese government warning her against making any stop in Taiwan, the contested island that China has repeatedly threatened to invade.
Pelosi will visit Japan, South Korea, Malaysia, and Singapore. CNN reported on Friday that the Taiwan visit currently "remains uncertain."
Xijin also has said in recent days that the Chinese military should "accompany" Pelosi’s plane during her tour.
"The Chinese mainland must be brave enough to take this step of flying warplanes over the island, which, unlike warplanes flight around Taiwan, can truly reflect China's sovereignty over the territory, and is more substantial than any visit to Taiwan by senior foreign officials," Xijin said in comments highlighted by the Middle East Media Research Institute, which is tracking the situation. "Using Pelosi's visit to Taiwan to complete this leap is most likely to make it a peaceful transition."
President Joe Biden recently said that a trip to Taiwan by Pelosi is "not a good idea right now."
China Warns: Pelosi Trip Marks ‘Invasion’ and Military Has Right to Fire on Her Plane (freebeacon.com)
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RT: 5.19 minutes
No it will be because of the CCP. To start a war over a diplomatic mission is asinine.
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For those of you who haven't read the Duduman prophecy here is the link https://www.timebomb2000.com/xf/ind...ca-dumitru-duduman.544367/page-5#post-9265471
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Sadly there are no world leaders that have a clue what to do. But don't worry there is one coming who knows exactly what to do and his name is JESUS
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They bumped of the Duke seems all it takes is to kill one to start the ball rolling
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I give up.
"The Speaker has the right to visit Taiwan...... "
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The door of the frenzy opens – China to US: "We will bury you in here" – Release of blocking rules for PLA – Revocation of licenses in Taiwan
Great military mobilization of China - Public ultimatum
01/08/2022 - 21:27
War News 24 / 7
The Taiwan Strait is turning into a war zone with the next few hours being extremely critical for the entire region. A spark is enough to open the door of the frenzy.
Both China's Foreign Ministry and the Defense Ministry have made the latest public threats and an ultimatum to the U.S. with extreme warfare.
Information from Beijing says Xi Jinping will not back down. The rules of engagement for the PLA have been released. There will be a serious Chinese military response. This is why public threats and public commitments to use armed force have increased.
In Taiwan, officers' and soldiers' licenses are revoked and the island's air defenses are mobilized. Everyone is now in combat positions ahead of Pelosi's visit.
Taiwan's Foreign Minister has just declined to comment on Pelosi's visit, saying that "he will not give any comment on Pelosi's travel plan, he will not give any additional information to the media."
However, a short while ago there was also official confirmation by the Taiwanese media.
Government officials have reportedly confirmed that they have received a welcome notice for Pelosi and stressed that Pelosi is "confident" that she will arrive in Taipei tomorrow night
Another source revealed that Pelosi and her entourage will arrive in Taiwan tomorrow night, most likely late at night, between 9:00 and 10:30, and will stay at the Grand Hyatt hotel in the Xinyi area, but the relevant authorities have not confirmed this.
Diplomatic sources have revealed that Pelosi will meet with President Tsai Ing-wen and senior national security council officials at 8 a.m. the next day (August 3) and leave Taiwan at 10 a.m. that day.
Reuters reported that Pelosi is set to visit Taiwan on Tuesday. The U.S. briefed "some allies" and during her visit, she is scheduled to meet some activists who openly express issues about China's rights
China: "We will bury you"
Some time ago, the Eastern Zone Combat Command of China's People's Liberation Army published videos calling on patriots "to bury all enemies who attempt to invade."
"To be in a state of full war readiness, to follow orders, to bury all invading (on the territory of the DRC) enemies," the video characteristically states.
At the same time, a large movement of Chinese forces is recorded in the Taiwan Strait.
The naval command in Qinglan, Hainan, South China, issued NAVTEX for a new aeronautical exercise, with live fire in the South China Sea, southwest of Hong Kong, with effect from August 2 to 6.
From 0:00 on August 2 to 24:00 on August 6, it is forbidden to cross into areas of the South China Sea. See on the map below the area.
When China publicly emphasizes to the Chinese population about the red lines and videos like these are shown, it is clear that Xi Jinping cannot and will not back down.
The USA relies only on the fact that the Chinese are not crazy and that they are bluffing. However, China's leadership has warned on several occasions that it will exercise all its rights under international law. We recall that Taiwan is an internationally recognized territory of China.
Chinese Foreign Minister: Publicly Warns the US – War rhetoric
The People's Liberation Army will not stand idly by if Pelosi visits Taiwan, the Chinese Defense Ministry warned again, stressing that the PLA is "fully prepared" for all scenarios.
A short while ago, during the regular briefing of journalists by the Chinese State Department, spokesman Zhao Litsian warned that China will not "sit on its hands" if Pelosi visits Taiwan and that because sheis "the third official in a row to the US administration", any visit by her would "have an unprecedented political impact"
He specifically said:
President Xi Jinping stressed in the telephone conversation with President Biden, that the position of the Chinese government and the people on the issue of Taiwan is consistent and decisively protects national sovereignty and territorial integrity, is the firm will of 1.4 billion euros. people of China.
One cannot bypass public opinion.
Those who play with fire will perish from it.
We believe that the US is fully aware of the strong and clear message sent by China.
If Pelosi visits Taiwan, it will blatantly interfere in China's internal relations, seriously undermine China's sovereignty and territorial integrity, arbitrarily trample on the "One China Principle," seriously threaten peace and stability along the Taiwan Strait, and seriously damage China-U.S. relations.
It will lead to a very serious situation and consequences.
We want to warn the US again that China is fully prepared for every scenario.
The People's Liberation Army (PLA) will not sit on its hands.
China will certainly respond decisively and take strong countermeasures to ensure its sovereignty and territorial integrity.
What the U.S. must do is to abide by the "One China Principle" and the three U.S.-China joint communiqués, President Biden not to support Taiwan's separatist attempts and not to arrange any pelosi's visit to Taiwan.
Taiwan prepares for war
In Taiwan, preparations are accelerated as the military and political leadership of the island prepares the people for warfare.
In addition to license revocations, the Army is developing air defense systems at Taoyuan International Airport while anti-ship missiles are in dispersal positions.
Fighters have been relocated to various airports and are on constant alert.
The Taiwanese army is conducting a nationwide exercise under the code name Han Kuang.
This large military exercise is designed to work out scenarios to counter a possible attack by the Chinese People's Liberation Army on the island. There are mainly landing action repulsion scenarios while informing residents where to seek shelter in the event of a China attack.
The door of the nursing home opens - China to USA: "We will bury you in here" - Release of blocking rules for PLA - Revocation of licenses in Taiwan - WarNews247
Great military mobilization of China - Public ultimatum
01/08/2022 - 21:27
War News 24 / 7
The Taiwan Strait is turning into a war zone with the next few hours being extremely critical for the entire region. A spark is enough to open the door of the frenzy.
Both China's Foreign Ministry and the Defense Ministry have made the latest public threats and an ultimatum to the U.S. with extreme warfare.
Information from Beijing says Xi Jinping will not back down. The rules of engagement for the PLA have been released. There will be a serious Chinese military response. This is why public threats and public commitments to use armed force have increased.
In Taiwan, officers' and soldiers' licenses are revoked and the island's air defenses are mobilized. Everyone is now in combat positions ahead of Pelosi's visit.
Taiwan's Foreign Minister has just declined to comment on Pelosi's visit, saying that "he will not give any comment on Pelosi's travel plan, he will not give any additional information to the media."
However, a short while ago there was also official confirmation by the Taiwanese media.
Government officials have reportedly confirmed that they have received a welcome notice for Pelosi and stressed that Pelosi is "confident" that she will arrive in Taipei tomorrow night
Another source revealed that Pelosi and her entourage will arrive in Taiwan tomorrow night, most likely late at night, between 9:00 and 10:30, and will stay at the Grand Hyatt hotel in the Xinyi area, but the relevant authorities have not confirmed this.
Diplomatic sources have revealed that Pelosi will meet with President Tsai Ing-wen and senior national security council officials at 8 a.m. the next day (August 3) and leave Taiwan at 10 a.m. that day.
Reuters reported that Pelosi is set to visit Taiwan on Tuesday. The U.S. briefed "some allies" and during her visit, she is scheduled to meet some activists who openly express issues about China's rights
China: "We will bury you"
Some time ago, the Eastern Zone Combat Command of China's People's Liberation Army published videos calling on patriots "to bury all enemies who attempt to invade."
"To be in a state of full war readiness, to follow orders, to bury all invading (on the territory of the DRC) enemies," the video characteristically states.
At the same time, a large movement of Chinese forces is recorded in the Taiwan Strait.
The naval command in Qinglan, Hainan, South China, issued NAVTEX for a new aeronautical exercise, with live fire in the South China Sea, southwest of Hong Kong, with effect from August 2 to 6.
From 0:00 on August 2 to 24:00 on August 6, it is forbidden to cross into areas of the South China Sea. See on the map below the area.
When China publicly emphasizes to the Chinese population about the red lines and videos like these are shown, it is clear that Xi Jinping cannot and will not back down.
The USA relies only on the fact that the Chinese are not crazy and that they are bluffing. However, China's leadership has warned on several occasions that it will exercise all its rights under international law. We recall that Taiwan is an internationally recognized territory of China.
Chinese Foreign Minister: Publicly Warns the US – War rhetoric
The People's Liberation Army will not stand idly by if Pelosi visits Taiwan, the Chinese Defense Ministry warned again, stressing that the PLA is "fully prepared" for all scenarios.
A short while ago, during the regular briefing of journalists by the Chinese State Department, spokesman Zhao Litsian warned that China will not "sit on its hands" if Pelosi visits Taiwan and that because sheis "the third official in a row to the US administration", any visit by her would "have an unprecedented political impact"
He specifically said:
President Xi Jinping stressed in the telephone conversation with President Biden, that the position of the Chinese government and the people on the issue of Taiwan is consistent and decisively protects national sovereignty and territorial integrity, is the firm will of 1.4 billion euros. people of China.
One cannot bypass public opinion.
Those who play with fire will perish from it.
We believe that the US is fully aware of the strong and clear message sent by China.
If Pelosi visits Taiwan, it will blatantly interfere in China's internal relations, seriously undermine China's sovereignty and territorial integrity, arbitrarily trample on the "One China Principle," seriously threaten peace and stability along the Taiwan Strait, and seriously damage China-U.S. relations.
It will lead to a very serious situation and consequences.
We want to warn the US again that China is fully prepared for every scenario.
The People's Liberation Army (PLA) will not sit on its hands.
China will certainly respond decisively and take strong countermeasures to ensure its sovereignty and territorial integrity.
What the U.S. must do is to abide by the "One China Principle" and the three U.S.-China joint communiqués, President Biden not to support Taiwan's separatist attempts and not to arrange any pelosi's visit to Taiwan.
Taiwan prepares for war
In Taiwan, preparations are accelerated as the military and political leadership of the island prepares the people for warfare.
In addition to license revocations, the Army is developing air defense systems at Taoyuan International Airport while anti-ship missiles are in dispersal positions.
Fighters have been relocated to various airports and are on constant alert.
The Taiwanese army is conducting a nationwide exercise under the code name Han Kuang.
This large military exercise is designed to work out scenarios to counter a possible attack by the Chinese People's Liberation Army on the island. There are mainly landing action repulsion scenarios while informing residents where to seek shelter in the event of a China attack.
The door of the nursing home opens - China to USA: "We will bury you in here" - Release of blocking rules for PLA - Revocation of licenses in Taiwan - WarNews247
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China Warns Of “Resolute Response” If US Speaker Nancy Pelosi Visits Taiwan
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Taiwan Mobilizes Military for War as China Threatens Nancy Pelosi: Report
Zoe Strozewski
4 minutes
Taiwan has reportedly mobilized its air defense forces in preparation for war as U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's possible visit to the island continues to inspire warnings from China.
The mobilization of Taiwan's forces was reported Monday by SET News, a news channel in the East Asian island. SET reported that in response to Pelosi's purported visit, Taiwan's Ministry of National Defense halted the leave of some officers and soldiers, as well as had its air defense forces begin readying for potential conflict with China.
Newsweek was not able to independently verify the report. Newsweek reached out to the Taipei Economic and Cultural Office, a de-facto embassy in New York City for comment.
Taiwan has reportedly mobilized its air defense forces in preparation for war as U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's possible visit to the island continues to inspire warnings from China. Above, soldiers disembark from amphibious assault vehicles during a military exercise on July 28 in Pingtung, Taiwan. Annabelle Chih/Getty Images
Unverified news reports in July that Pelosi, a Democratic California lawmaker, will visit Taiwan in August has led to repeated threats from Chinese officials and state media. Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Zhao Lijian said last month that such a visit would result in the U.S. seeing "consequences," and that China is against "any form of official interaction between the U.S. and the Taiwan region."
"The U.S. must not arrange for Speaker Pelosi to visit the Taiwan region and must stop official interactions with Taiwan," he said. "Should the U.S. side insist on doing otherwise, China will take strong and resolute measures to safeguard its sovereignty and territorial integrity. The U.S. must assume full responsibility for any ensuing consequences."
Pelosi, who is second in line to the U.S. presidency, arrived in Singapore early Monday on her tour of Asia that will allegedly include a stop in Taiwan. U.S. General Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said last week that the military would work to ensure her safety if "there's a decision made that Speaker Pelosi or anyone else is going to travel."
Taiwan, officially called the Republic of China (ROC), is located in the western Pacific Ocean and has been governed independently from mainland China since 1949, according to an explainer on the China-Taiwan relationship from the Council on Foreign Relations. Chinese officials have maintained that they view Taiwan as an "inalienable" part of China, and in October last year, Chinese President Xi Jinping vowed to achieve a "peaceful reunification" with the ROC, Reuters reported.
Still, China's reported military drills near Taiwan in recent years have increased fears that it could take aggressive action against the island.
The results of a survey released last month indicate that China's yearning for reunification is not widely-shared among Taiwan's residents. In the poll from National Chengchi University's Election Study Center, desire among Taiwan's public for a quick reunification with mainland China fell to a near-record low of 1.3 percent in the first half of the year. At the same time, 5.1 percent said that they wanted formal independence from China at the earliest possibility.
Newsweek reached out to China's Foreign Ministry and Pelosi's office for comment.
www.newsweek.com
Zoe Strozewski
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Taiwan has reportedly mobilized its air defense forces in preparation for war as U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's possible visit to the island continues to inspire warnings from China.
The mobilization of Taiwan's forces was reported Monday by SET News, a news channel in the East Asian island. SET reported that in response to Pelosi's purported visit, Taiwan's Ministry of National Defense halted the leave of some officers and soldiers, as well as had its air defense forces begin readying for potential conflict with China.
Newsweek was not able to independently verify the report. Newsweek reached out to the Taipei Economic and Cultural Office, a de-facto embassy in New York City for comment.
Taiwan has reportedly mobilized its air defense forces in preparation for war as U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's possible visit to the island continues to inspire warnings from China. Above, soldiers disembark from amphibious assault vehicles during a military exercise on July 28 in Pingtung, Taiwan. Annabelle Chih/Getty Images
Unverified news reports in July that Pelosi, a Democratic California lawmaker, will visit Taiwan in August has led to repeated threats from Chinese officials and state media. Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Zhao Lijian said last month that such a visit would result in the U.S. seeing "consequences," and that China is against "any form of official interaction between the U.S. and the Taiwan region."
"The U.S. must not arrange for Speaker Pelosi to visit the Taiwan region and must stop official interactions with Taiwan," he said. "Should the U.S. side insist on doing otherwise, China will take strong and resolute measures to safeguard its sovereignty and territorial integrity. The U.S. must assume full responsibility for any ensuing consequences."
Pelosi, who is second in line to the U.S. presidency, arrived in Singapore early Monday on her tour of Asia that will allegedly include a stop in Taiwan. U.S. General Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said last week that the military would work to ensure her safety if "there's a decision made that Speaker Pelosi or anyone else is going to travel."
Taiwan, officially called the Republic of China (ROC), is located in the western Pacific Ocean and has been governed independently from mainland China since 1949, according to an explainer on the China-Taiwan relationship from the Council on Foreign Relations. Chinese officials have maintained that they view Taiwan as an "inalienable" part of China, and in October last year, Chinese President Xi Jinping vowed to achieve a "peaceful reunification" with the ROC, Reuters reported.
Still, China's reported military drills near Taiwan in recent years have increased fears that it could take aggressive action against the island.
The results of a survey released last month indicate that China's yearning for reunification is not widely-shared among Taiwan's residents. In the poll from National Chengchi University's Election Study Center, desire among Taiwan's public for a quick reunification with mainland China fell to a near-record low of 1.3 percent in the first half of the year. At the same time, 5.1 percent said that they wanted formal independence from China at the earliest possibility.
Newsweek reached out to China's Foreign Ministry and Pelosi's office for comment.
Taiwan Mobilizes Military for War as China Threatens Nancy Pelosi: Report
The island nation has had its air defense forces begin readying for a potential conflict with China, according to SET News on Monday.
www.newsweek.com
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Just in: "The United States would consider the use of nuclear weapons in extreme circumstances to defend vital INTERESTS of the United States, its allies and partners": the Secretary of States https://t.co/pAlsKNw6Eh
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So it has come to this, threatening to use nuclear weapons, I wonder if General Milley will make the call?
In Woodward and Costa's book Peril, the authors wrote that on October 30, 2020, four days before the U.S. presidential election day, Milley called his counterpart in China, General Li Zuocheng, quoting Milley as saying: "I want to assure you that the American government is stable and everything is going to be okay ... We are not going to attack or conduct any kinetic operations against you ... If we're going to attack, I'm going to call you ahead of time. It's not going to be a surprise."
Mark Milley - Wikipedia
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Here Are The 5 Chinese Military Response Scenarios If Pelosi Visits Taiwan
BY TYLER DURDEN
ZERO HEDGE
MONDAY, AUG 01, 2022 - 06:40 PM
Update(1840ET): FT is out with some further details on the White House's handling of the Pelosi trip, now being watched carefully around the world...
If indeed it's accurate that Xi got "tough" in the call with Biden, expressing Beijing's 'red lines' directly to the US president, this is certainly recipe for something big in terms of a major Chinese response (of course... in what form - diplomatic or military - nobody knows) should Pelosi show up in Taipei this week.
Amid concerns that if she lands with fighter jet escort guiding her military transport plane - which has been widely reported to be set for Tuesday night - this could trigger nothing short of a shooting war with China.
And now, a number of military analysis publications are examining the various possible 'worst case scenarios'. One independent analyst and China-Taiwan watcher has laid out a full range of hypothetical, albeit realistic scenarios involving different potential levels of Chinese aggression against the self-ruled island of Taiwan.
Taiwan special operations forces during training exercises, file image via Ministry of National Defense R.O.C.
Below is an excerpt from an insightful post titled Red Clouds of War Looming Over Taiwan by a Westerner who is a Taiwan-based researcher...
Scenario 1: The minimalist approach. The PLA occupies Jinmen or Matsu islands, as well as Taiwan’s islands in the South China Sea, and maybe even the Penghu Islands. They also declare part or all of the Taiwan Strait a “no go” zone to foreign military shipping. This would probably be fairly easy for the PLA, and Taiwan would probably not want to overcommit to naval action against the huge PLA Navy (PLAN) if it didn’t directly approach the main island.
Scenario 2: Hybrid warfare. Some sort of partial naval and aerial blockade of Taiwan intended to interfere with the economy, combined with stepped-up harassment, such as direct flyovers of Taiwan’s territory by PLA Air Force (PLAAF) jets, or incursions into Taiwan’s maritime space by China’s naval militia, protected by PLAN warships. This might also be accompanied by cyberattacks designed to shut down the internet and other infrastructure for days at a time. Taiwan would have no choice to assert a stiff defensive posture, resulting in real engagements between Taiwanese and Chinese forces, posing a serious risk of escalation.
Scenario 3: A serious attack but no invasion. This would involve air and sea warfare only, no boots on the ground. A full aerial and naval blockade, a protracted set of naval and aerial battles designed to degrade Taiwan’s military, combined with ballistic missile attacks on military targets. Aggressive cyberattacks turning off the internet and shutting down critical infrastructure for days or weeks. Once air and naval superiority were established, China could pick off targets at will, ratcheting up the threat until the government breaks.
Scenario 4: The Full Monty – a proper invasion. Total air and sea blockade, massive ballistic missile attacks on military targets, massive cyberattacks to paralyze virtually all military, governmental, and civilian communication and shut down critical infrastructure. Aggressive naval and aerial engagements to degrade Taiwan’s forces and achieve battlespace superiority, followed by sustained aerial assaults by fighters and bombers on military targets. A decapitation strike at Taipei by special forces units to try to seize key leadership personnel. Well-coordinated insider treason and sabotage actions by gangsters, planted CCP agents, and other groups sympathetic to China – the so-called “5th column”. An amphibious assault with close air support from fighters, helicopters, and battle drones at one or more locations in Taiwan, and very possibly a move to seize a major port, such as Keelung, Taipei Port, Taichung, or Kaohsiung. Then hundreds of thousands of troops would start rolling in until the island was occupied. That would be the plan, anyway. PLA success in such an endeavor is very unclear. But they could do a hell of a lot of damage trying. And yes, they might actually succeed, at least partially, such as in seizing and holding the region around Taipei.
Scenario 5: Worst Case (short of nuclear) scenario. Full air and sea blockade, massive ballistic missile attacks on military targets, massive cyberattack, aggressive naval and aerial attacks to degrade Taiwan’s forces and achieve battlefield superiority, followed by aerial assaults by fighters and bomber on military targets and area bombing of civilian targets. There are massive casualties, and Taiwan is crushed by brute force, surrenders, and then the occupiers enter the country and take it over.
The full analysis can be read here.
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Update(1509ET): The White House in an afternoon press briefing condemned Beijing's escalating rhetoric after it was widely reportedly hours earlier that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi will likely touch down in Taiwan Tuesday evening. There's speculation she could even spend the night, based on anonymously sourced statements to Taiwan officials.
"There’s just no reason for this to escalate," White House national security spokesman John Kirby said as a warning to China. "There’s every reason given the our national security interests — as well as the interest of our allies and partners that are that are staking the Indo Pacific on any given day — there’s every reason for this to not escalate." Kirby didn't confirm whether she'll go through with it.
China reiterated over the weekend and into Monday that it will take "strong and resolute measures to safeguard its sovereignty and territorial integrity" - seeing in a possible Pelosi visit a violation of 'red lines'. "Put simply, there is no reason for Beijing to turn a potential visit consistent with long-standing U.S. policy into some sort of crisis conflict or use it as a pretext to increase aggressive military activity in or around the Taiwan Strait," Kirby continued in his statement.
Kirby blamed China's actions of staging provocative military drills both across from Taiwan and elsewhere in the South China Sea as a sign Beijing "appears to be positioning itself to potentially take further steps in the coming days, and perhaps over a longer time horizon." He added:
Kirby further repeated the White House stance that it won't interfere with members of Congress making their own decisions on visiting Taiwan.
"Nothing has changed. There’s no drama to talk to. It is not without precedent for the Speaker of the House to go to Taiwan,” he said. "Nothing about this potential, potential business — which, oh by the way, has precedent — would change the status quo and the world should reject any PRC effort to use it to do so."
Chinese officials and state media are vowing a swift, severe response if Pelosi flies into Taiwan...
Meanwhile the FT is out with some further fresh details related to White House scrambling ahead of Pelosi's possible visit to the self-ruled island: "President Joe Biden dispatched senior officials, including national security adviser Jake Sullivan, to lay out the risks to Pelosi, but people familiar with the situation said she had decided to press ahead with the landmark trip," FT wrote.
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Update(10:55ET): The vast majority of breathless Western media reports about Nancy Pelosi's now "imminent" Taiwan visit are being sourced to Taiwanese media and officials; and among Taiwanese outlets it seems to race is on to produce more and more specific detailed predictions. For example, this is the latest out of Taiwan tabloid ETtoday - picked up by international news wires: US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi will arrive at Songshan Airport Tuesday evening at 10:30pm local time.
At the same time The Wall Street Journal is reporting Monday that "she's definitely coming" - based on an unnamed source in contact with top Taiwan officials:
And now being reported by Bloomberg - minutes following the WSJ:
And yet Pelosi herself - not to mention the White House - could likely be very much on the fence given China's military has ramped up threats, and is now on a war-footing, based particularly on harsher quotes coming out in state media on Monday. Taiwan's defense ministry has said "no comment" when asked to confirm is she's arriving.
China has also announced closure of waters in the South China Sea amid ongoing PLA navy drills.
After weekend drills, specifically in response to reports of a Pelosi Taiwan visit, more have been announced, set from Tuesday through Friday.
This as the USS Ronald Reagan carrier strike group continues to patrol waters near Taiwan - possibly preparing to respond to any aggressive acts from China which could threaten a potential Pelosi visit to the self-ruled island.
More on the US strike group's movements... the USS Tripoli amphibious assault ship is also said to be headed for Taiwan.
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US equity markets are accelerating their losses suddenly this morning (after briefly touching unchanged from overnight weakness) following headlines that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is reportedly expected to land in Taiwan on Tuesday night.
Liberty Times reports, citing people familiar with the matter, Pelosi plans to visit the Legislative Yuan and meet lawmakers on Wednesday.
However, the US and Taiwan are still preparing for last minute changes, the paper adds.
Futures were sliding already but the Pelosi headlines pushed them to overnight lows...
Bonds are bid with 10Y Yields tumbling back to unchanged...
The offshore Yuan also tumbled on the report...
Interestingly, crude prices are notably lower (after disappointing China PMIs) and are accelerating lower after the Pelosi-Taiwan headlines...
China meanwhile Monday once again warned its military is prepared to take action if House Speaker Nancy Pelosi follows through on a landmark visit to Taiwan.
According to her published itinerary, which does not as yet name Taiwan - this could see her flying to Taiwan after her delegation visits Malaysia and just ahead of going to South Korea.
Amid Chinese PLA drills ongoing in regional waters, and with the USS Ronald Reagan carrier strike group also in the South China Sea, Nikkei writes that "The U.S. military is moving assets, including aircraft carriers and large planes, closer to Taiwan ahead of an anticipated but unconfirmed visit to the island by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi."
The PLA military also on Monday issued a fresh propaganda video saying essentially 'we're ready for war' - consistent with prior messages circulating on official Chinese military channels...
As FT notes additionally of PLA muscle-flexing as a warning to Pelosi: "China’s PLA also on Saturday carried out live-fire exercises in Pintang, a coastal area in south-eastern Fujian province about 125km from Taiwan. State media also broadcast footage of a Chinese destroyer firing its weapons in the South China Sea, through which the USS Ronald Reagan aircraft carrier group is believed to be sailing after visiting Singapore."
Here Are The 5 Chinese Military Response Scenarios If Pelosi Visits Taiwan | ZeroHedge
BY TYLER DURDEN
ZERO HEDGE
MONDAY, AUG 01, 2022 - 06:40 PM
Update(1840ET): FT is out with some further details on the White House's handling of the Pelosi trip, now being watched carefully around the world...
Concerning strained and now fast deteriorating relations with China, Newsquawk earlier Monday had the following details in a note on Thursday's Biden-Xi phone call:
If indeed it's accurate that Xi got "tough" in the call with Biden, expressing Beijing's 'red lines' directly to the US president, this is certainly recipe for something big in terms of a major Chinese response (of course... in what form - diplomatic or military - nobody knows) should Pelosi show up in Taipei this week.
Amid concerns that if she lands with fighter jet escort guiding her military transport plane - which has been widely reported to be set for Tuesday night - this could trigger nothing short of a shooting war with China.
And now, a number of military analysis publications are examining the various possible 'worst case scenarios'. One independent analyst and China-Taiwan watcher has laid out a full range of hypothetical, albeit realistic scenarios involving different potential levels of Chinese aggression against the self-ruled island of Taiwan.
Taiwan special operations forces during training exercises, file image via Ministry of National Defense R.O.C.
Below is an excerpt from an insightful post titled Red Clouds of War Looming Over Taiwan by a Westerner who is a Taiwan-based researcher...
Scenario 1: The minimalist approach. The PLA occupies Jinmen or Matsu islands, as well as Taiwan’s islands in the South China Sea, and maybe even the Penghu Islands. They also declare part or all of the Taiwan Strait a “no go” zone to foreign military shipping. This would probably be fairly easy for the PLA, and Taiwan would probably not want to overcommit to naval action against the huge PLA Navy (PLAN) if it didn’t directly approach the main island.
Scenario 2: Hybrid warfare. Some sort of partial naval and aerial blockade of Taiwan intended to interfere with the economy, combined with stepped-up harassment, such as direct flyovers of Taiwan’s territory by PLA Air Force (PLAAF) jets, or incursions into Taiwan’s maritime space by China’s naval militia, protected by PLAN warships. This might also be accompanied by cyberattacks designed to shut down the internet and other infrastructure for days at a time. Taiwan would have no choice to assert a stiff defensive posture, resulting in real engagements between Taiwanese and Chinese forces, posing a serious risk of escalation.
Scenario 3: A serious attack but no invasion. This would involve air and sea warfare only, no boots on the ground. A full aerial and naval blockade, a protracted set of naval and aerial battles designed to degrade Taiwan’s military, combined with ballistic missile attacks on military targets. Aggressive cyberattacks turning off the internet and shutting down critical infrastructure for days or weeks. Once air and naval superiority were established, China could pick off targets at will, ratcheting up the threat until the government breaks.
Scenario 4: The Full Monty – a proper invasion. Total air and sea blockade, massive ballistic missile attacks on military targets, massive cyberattacks to paralyze virtually all military, governmental, and civilian communication and shut down critical infrastructure. Aggressive naval and aerial engagements to degrade Taiwan’s forces and achieve battlespace superiority, followed by sustained aerial assaults by fighters and bombers on military targets. A decapitation strike at Taipei by special forces units to try to seize key leadership personnel. Well-coordinated insider treason and sabotage actions by gangsters, planted CCP agents, and other groups sympathetic to China – the so-called “5th column”. An amphibious assault with close air support from fighters, helicopters, and battle drones at one or more locations in Taiwan, and very possibly a move to seize a major port, such as Keelung, Taipei Port, Taichung, or Kaohsiung. Then hundreds of thousands of troops would start rolling in until the island was occupied. That would be the plan, anyway. PLA success in such an endeavor is very unclear. But they could do a hell of a lot of damage trying. And yes, they might actually succeed, at least partially, such as in seizing and holding the region around Taipei.
Scenario 5: Worst Case (short of nuclear) scenario. Full air and sea blockade, massive ballistic missile attacks on military targets, massive cyberattack, aggressive naval and aerial attacks to degrade Taiwan’s forces and achieve battlefield superiority, followed by aerial assaults by fighters and bomber on military targets and area bombing of civilian targets. There are massive casualties, and Taiwan is crushed by brute force, surrenders, and then the occupiers enter the country and take it over.
The full analysis can be read here.
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Update(1509ET): The White House in an afternoon press briefing condemned Beijing's escalating rhetoric after it was widely reportedly hours earlier that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi will likely touch down in Taiwan Tuesday evening. There's speculation she could even spend the night, based on anonymously sourced statements to Taiwan officials.
"There’s just no reason for this to escalate," White House national security spokesman John Kirby said as a warning to China. "There’s every reason given the our national security interests — as well as the interest of our allies and partners that are that are staking the Indo Pacific on any given day — there’s every reason for this to not escalate." Kirby didn't confirm whether she'll go through with it.
China reiterated over the weekend and into Monday that it will take "strong and resolute measures to safeguard its sovereignty and territorial integrity" - seeing in a possible Pelosi visit a violation of 'red lines'. "Put simply, there is no reason for Beijing to turn a potential visit consistent with long-standing U.S. policy into some sort of crisis conflict or use it as a pretext to increase aggressive military activity in or around the Taiwan Strait," Kirby continued in his statement.
Kirby blamed China's actions of staging provocative military drills both across from Taiwan and elsewhere in the South China Sea as a sign Beijing "appears to be positioning itself to potentially take further steps in the coming days, and perhaps over a longer time horizon." He added:
Kirby further repeated the White House stance that it won't interfere with members of Congress making their own decisions on visiting Taiwan.
- INDICATIONS CHINA MILITARY MIGHT RESPOND TO PELOSI TRIP: KIRBY
- ESCALATION IN TAIWAN STRAIT SERVES NO ONE'S INTEREST: US
- US WILL ENSURE PELOSI'S SAFETY IF SHE VISITS TAIWAN: KIRBY
- WHITE HOUSE SAYS WE WILL NOT TAKE THE BAIT, NOR WILL WE BE INTIMIDATED -KIRBY
- KIRBY ON TAIWAN: PELOSI HAS NOT CONFIRMED HER TRAVEL PLANS
- PELOSI HAS THE RIGHT TO VISIT TAIWAN: KIRBY
"Nothing has changed. There’s no drama to talk to. It is not without precedent for the Speaker of the House to go to Taiwan,” he said. "Nothing about this potential, potential business — which, oh by the way, has precedent — would change the status quo and the world should reject any PRC effort to use it to do so."
Chinese officials and state media are vowing a swift, severe response if Pelosi flies into Taiwan...
Meanwhile the FT is out with some further fresh details related to White House scrambling ahead of Pelosi's possible visit to the self-ruled island: "President Joe Biden dispatched senior officials, including national security adviser Jake Sullivan, to lay out the risks to Pelosi, but people familiar with the situation said she had decided to press ahead with the landmark trip," FT wrote.
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Update(10:55ET): The vast majority of breathless Western media reports about Nancy Pelosi's now "imminent" Taiwan visit are being sourced to Taiwanese media and officials; and among Taiwanese outlets it seems to race is on to produce more and more specific detailed predictions. For example, this is the latest out of Taiwan tabloid ETtoday - picked up by international news wires: US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi will arrive at Songshan Airport Tuesday evening at 10:30pm local time.
At the same time The Wall Street Journal is reporting Monday that "she's definitely coming" - based on an unnamed source in contact with top Taiwan officials:
And now being reported by Bloomberg - minutes following the WSJ:
And yet Pelosi herself - not to mention the White House - could likely be very much on the fence given China's military has ramped up threats, and is now on a war-footing, based particularly on harsher quotes coming out in state media on Monday. Taiwan's defense ministry has said "no comment" when asked to confirm is she's arriving.
China has also announced closure of waters in the South China Sea amid ongoing PLA navy drills.
After weekend drills, specifically in response to reports of a Pelosi Taiwan visit, more have been announced, set from Tuesday through Friday.
This as the USS Ronald Reagan carrier strike group continues to patrol waters near Taiwan - possibly preparing to respond to any aggressive acts from China which could threaten a potential Pelosi visit to the self-ruled island.
More on the US strike group's movements... the USS Tripoli amphibious assault ship is also said to be headed for Taiwan.
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US equity markets are accelerating their losses suddenly this morning (after briefly touching unchanged from overnight weakness) following headlines that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is reportedly expected to land in Taiwan on Tuesday night.
Liberty Times reports, citing people familiar with the matter, Pelosi plans to visit the Legislative Yuan and meet lawmakers on Wednesday.
However, the US and Taiwan are still preparing for last minute changes, the paper adds.
Futures were sliding already but the Pelosi headlines pushed them to overnight lows...
Bonds are bid with 10Y Yields tumbling back to unchanged...
The offshore Yuan also tumbled on the report...
Interestingly, crude prices are notably lower (after disappointing China PMIs) and are accelerating lower after the Pelosi-Taiwan headlines...
China meanwhile Monday once again warned its military is prepared to take action if House Speaker Nancy Pelosi follows through on a landmark visit to Taiwan.
According to her published itinerary, which does not as yet name Taiwan - this could see her flying to Taiwan after her delegation visits Malaysia and just ahead of going to South Korea.
Amid Chinese PLA drills ongoing in regional waters, and with the USS Ronald Reagan carrier strike group also in the South China Sea, Nikkei writes that "The U.S. military is moving assets, including aircraft carriers and large planes, closer to Taiwan ahead of an anticipated but unconfirmed visit to the island by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi."
The PLA military also on Monday issued a fresh propaganda video saying essentially 'we're ready for war' - consistent with prior messages circulating on official Chinese military channels...
As FT notes additionally of PLA muscle-flexing as a warning to Pelosi: "China’s PLA also on Saturday carried out live-fire exercises in Pintang, a coastal area in south-eastern Fujian province about 125km from Taiwan. State media also broadcast footage of a Chinese destroyer firing its weapons in the South China Sea, through which the USS Ronald Reagan aircraft carrier group is believed to be sailing after visiting Singapore."
Here Are The 5 Chinese Military Response Scenarios If Pelosi Visits Taiwan | ZeroHedge
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okie-carbine
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At this point, a full nuclear world war is what is needed. Reset the whole damn world.
vector7
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John Kirby: “We do not support Taiwan independence”
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Indo-Pacific News - Watching the CCP-China Threat
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Clearly a warning to #China amid very high tension over #Taiwan "The US would consider the use of #NuclearWeapons in extreme circumstances to defend vital INTERESTS of the United States, its allies and partners." Blinken.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1554304359961243648
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Clearly a warning to #China amid very high tension over #Taiwan "The US would consider the use of #NuclearWeapons in extreme circumstances to defend vital INTERESTS of the United States, its allies and partners." Blinken.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1554304359961243648
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Taiwan's defence ministry has 'reinforced' its combat alertness level from Tuesday morning to Thursday noon, the island's official central news agency reported, citing unidentified sources.
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Taiwan's defence ministry has 'reinforced' its combat alertness level from Tuesday morning to Thursday noon, the island's official central news agency reported, citing unidentified sources.
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Nancy didn't say she was going to Taiwan, she said she was going to tie one on.
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Several Chinese warplanes fly close to median line of Taiwan Strait - source
August 1, 202210:12 PM CDTLast Updated an hour ago
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Chinese and Taiwanese printed flags are seen in this illustration taken, April 28, 2022. Picture taken April 28, 2022. REUTERS/Dado Ruvic/Illustration/File Photo
TAIPEI, Aug 2 (Reuters) - Several Chinese warplanes flew close to the median line of the sensitive Taiwan Strait on Tuesday morning, a source briefed on the matter told Reuters, as tensions mounted on news U.S. House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi was set to visit Taiwan during the day.
The source said several Chinese warships have stayed close to unofficial dividing line since Monday, adding that Taiwan had dispatched aircraft to monitor the situation.
Taiwan's defence ministry was not immediately able to respond to a request for comment.
The source said both Chinese warships and aircraft "squeezed" the median line on Tuesday morning, an unusual move the person described as "very provocative." Neither side's aircraft normally cross the median line.
The person said the Chinese aircraft repeatedly conducted tactical moves of briefly "touching" the median line and circling back to the other side of the strait on Tuesday morning, while Taiwanese aircraft were on standby nearby.
China claims democratically-ruled Taiwan as its own territory and has ramped up military and political pressure to try and force the island to accept Chinese rule.
Taiwan rejects China's claims and vows to defend itself.
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August 1, 202210:12 PM CDTLast Updated an hour ago
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Chinese and Taiwanese printed flags are seen in this illustration taken, April 28, 2022. Picture taken April 28, 2022. REUTERS/Dado Ruvic/Illustration/File Photo
TAIPEI, Aug 2 (Reuters) - Several Chinese warplanes flew close to the median line of the sensitive Taiwan Strait on Tuesday morning, a source briefed on the matter told Reuters, as tensions mounted on news U.S. House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi was set to visit Taiwan during the day.
The source said several Chinese warships have stayed close to unofficial dividing line since Monday, adding that Taiwan had dispatched aircraft to monitor the situation.
Taiwan's defence ministry was not immediately able to respond to a request for comment.
The source said both Chinese warships and aircraft "squeezed" the median line on Tuesday morning, an unusual move the person described as "very provocative." Neither side's aircraft normally cross the median line.
The person said the Chinese aircraft repeatedly conducted tactical moves of briefly "touching" the median line and circling back to the other side of the strait on Tuesday morning, while Taiwanese aircraft were on standby nearby.
China claims democratically-ruled Taiwan as its own territory and has ramped up military and political pressure to try and force the island to accept Chinese rule.
Taiwan rejects China's claims and vows to defend itself.
Several Chinese warplanes fly close to median line of Taiwan Strait - source
Several Chinese warplanes flew close to the median line of the sensitive Taiwan Strait on Tuesday morning, a source briefed on the matter told Reuters, as tensions mounted on news U.S. House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi was set to visit Taiwan during the day.
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TheChrome
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Depending on the configuration of the Assault Ships, that's a minimum of 18-60 F-35s. If you include the 2 Carriers there probably is well over 200 US naval fighter jets in the area not including Air Force stationed at ground bases. Seldom stated point: Australia has more stealth fighters than China. China would open a can of beans if they did anything because they would be attacked on all sides. Australia from the South, Japan and South Korea from the north and east. India from the west. The US and Britain from whatever direction.
