WAR China Signals a Military Response to a Taiwan Visit by Pelosi

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UNCONFIRMED: Taiwanese outlet Setn reports that the Ministry of National Defense has "urgently" cancelled the leave of "some officers & soldiers", & mobilized the "air defense force to immediately prepare for war" in response to Pelosi's anticipated visit



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傳裴洛西明晚訪台　可能採「技術性降落」或「入住1晚」 | 政治 | 三立新聞網 SETN.COM
美國眾議院議長裴洛西的亞洲行是否訪台，行程保密到家。台灣官方也格外低調，外界揣測因為中共施加壓力，裴洛西可能比照去年6月三位美國參議員訪台時，降落在松指部、不入境，由總統蔡英文到松指部會面。不過也有消息指出，裴洛西有可能不畏中共恫嚇，不只入境還要在台灣住一晚，可能住在位於台北市中山區的飯店。

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A senior official in Beijing said the atmosphere of last week’s Biden-Xi telephone conversation was the worst among the five talks between the leaders and President Xi was said to have showed the toughest attitude he has ever shown to any world leader
 
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Pelosi is expected to land at Songshan Airport at around 10 pm on August the 2nd and stay overnight. A public event is planned, and a meeting with the Legislative Yuan is expected on Wednesday - Taiwanese outlet

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NEW: During Pelosi's visit to Taiwan, she will meet with President Tsai Ing-wen, Vice President Lai Qingde and senior national security officials. - Next TV https://nexttv.com.tw/NextTV/News/Ho
 
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Pelosi is expected to land at Songshan Airport at around 10 pm on August the 2nd and stay overnight. A public event is planned, and a meeting with the Legislative Yuan is expected on Wednesday - Taiwanese outlet
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If they are right on the time...
Aug 2 @ 10PM Taiwan time is -- Tomorrow, Aug 2 @ 9AM Central US Time
 
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This is what China has been doing, while we worry about pronouns and genders.. #Trump2024ToSaveAmerica


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NOW: China's Tianjin, Liaoning and Hainan Maritime Safety Administrations simultaneously issued navigation warnings on Monday, with the Liaoning Maritime Safety Administration saying it would conduct live-fire training in the Bohai Sea in the near future



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美國眾議院議長裴洛西（Nancy Pelosi）率團展開亞洲行，各界都相當關注她是否造訪台灣，有消息指她最快明天（2日）抵台。與此同時，中共連日來也動作頻頻，叫囂稱若裴洛西赴台將祭軍事回應，中國海事局今天更發布航行警告，指2日將於南海部分海域進行「軍事訓練」，挑釁意味濃厚。自裴洛西計畫訪台的消息傳出後，中國便不斷升高文攻武赫，美中緊張關係升級。上週五（7/29）裴洛西啟程前來亞洲後，中方同日...

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China says its military will "not sit idly by" if US House Speaker Pelosi visits Taiwan (7min)
Aug 1, 2022
Speculation around a possible trip to Taiwan by US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has triggered another warning from Beijing. China has said its military will "not sit idly by" if Ms Pelosi visits the island. Taiwan is not officially mentioned on her itinerary of her Asia trip. Should Ms Pelosi go ahead with her visit, she would be the highest-ranking US official to visit Taiwan since 1997. Last week, Chinese President Xi Jinping had warned his US counterpart Joe Biden not to "play with fire" over the Taiwan issue.
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Pelosi set to visit Taiwan despite China warnings, sources say

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  • Summary

  • Beijing issues firm warning against a Pelosi visit to Taiwan
  • Pelosi would be first U.S House Speaker to visit since 1997
  • Asia trip to include Singapore, Malaysia, South Korea, Japan
  • Taiwan was not included on itinerary released Sunday
TAIPEI/BEIJING, Aug 1 (Reuters) - U.S. House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi was set to visit Taiwan on Tuesday, three people briefed on the matter said, as China warned that its military would never "sit idly by" if she visited the self-ruled island claimed by Beijing.

Pelosi, who began an Asia trip earlier on Monday in Singapore, was due to spend Tuesday night in Taiwan, the people said.

Taiwan's foreign ministry said it had no comment on reports of Pelosi's travel plans.


Amid widespread speculation over whether she would make a stop in Taiwan, Pelosi's office said on Sunday that she was leading a congressional delegation to the region that would include visits to Singapore, Malaysia, South Korea and Japan. It did not mention Taiwan.

One source told Reuters that the United States had informed some allies about Pelosi's visit to Taiwan. Two other sources said Pelosi was scheduled to meet a small group of activists who are outspoken on about China's human rights record during her stay in Taiwan, possibly on Wednesday.


Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian said earlier on Monday that it would be "a gross interference in China's internal affairs" if Pelosi visits Taiwan, and warned that it would lead to "very serious developments and consequences."

"We would like to tell the United States once again that China is standing by, the Chinese People's Liberation Army will never sit idly by, and China will take resolute responses and strong countermeasures to defend its sovereignty and territorial integrity," Zhao told a regular daily briefing.


Asked what kind of measures the PLA might take, Zhao said: "if she dares to go, then let us wait and see."

China views visits by U.S. officials to Taiwan as sending an encouraging signal to the pro-independence camp in the island. Washington does not have official diplomatic ties with Taiwan but is bound by U.S. law to provide the island with the means to defend itself.

A visit by Pelosi, who is second in the line of succession to the U.S. presidency and a long-time critic of China, would come amid worsening ties between Washington and Beijing. Republican Newt Gingrich was the last House speaker to visit Taiwan, in 1997.

PLA VIDEO
A video by the People's Liberation Army's Eastern Theater Command, which showed scenes of military exercises and preparations and was posted on state media sites on Monday evening, urged troops to "stand by in battle formation, be ready to fight upon command, bury all incoming enemies."

The White House dismissed China's rhetoric as groundless and inappropriate. "It is not uncommon for congressional leaders to travel to Taiwan," National Security Council spokesman John Kirby said in an interview with CNN early Monday.

"We shouldn't be, as a country, we shouldn't be intimidated by that rhetoric, or those potential actions. This is an important trip for the Speaker to be on and we're going to do whatever we can to support her."




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A man reads the Global Times newspaper that features a front page article about U.S. House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi's Asia tour at a street display wall in Beijing, China, August 1, 2022. The front page headline reads: "Pelosi visits Asia in the smell of gunpowder." REUTERS/Thomas Peter

BIDEN-XI CALL
During a phone call last Thursday, Chinese President Xi Jinping warned U.S. President Joe Biden that Washington should abide by the one-China principle and "those who play with fire will perish by it".

Biden told Xi that U.S. policy on Taiwan had not changed and that Washington strongly opposes unilateral efforts to change the status quo or undermine peace and stability across the Taiwan Strait. read more

Spokesman for China's embassy in Washington Liu Pengyu struck a measured tone with reporters on Friday, a day after Biden spoke with Xi, saying one of the goals of dialogue was to ease tension over Taiwan.

"I think both China and the U.S. don't want a conflict there in the Taiwan Strait," Liu said.

On Monday, Taiwan Premier Su Tseng-chang did not directly respond when asked whether Pelosi will visit on Thursday, as local media had speculated.

"We always warmly welcome visits to our country by distinguished foreign guests," he told reporters in Taipei.

Shi Yinhong, an international relations professor at Renmin University in Beijing, said that if Pelosi visits Taiwan it would prompt the strongest counter-measures by Beijing in years, but he did not expect that to trigger major military conflict.

"China has reiterated in no ambiguous terms its opposition to Taiwan separatism. The U.S. has reiterated many times its one-China policy has not changed and that it is against any change to the status quo by either side of the Taiwan Strait," he said.

"Unless by accident, I am sure neither side would intentionally take military action that could lead to a major security risk."

SINGAPORE VISIT
On Monday, Pelosi and her delegation met with Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong, discussing issues including cross-strait relations, the Ukraine war and climate change, Singapore's foreign ministry said.

"PM Lee highlighted the importance of stable US-China relations for regional peace and security," it said.

Beijing considers Taiwan to be part of its territory and has never renounced using force to bring the island under its control. Taiwan rejects China's sovereignty claims and says only its people can decide the island's future.

Last Wednesday, Biden told reporters he thought the U.S. military believed a Pelosi visit to Taiwan was "not a good idea right now."

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Pelosi set to visit Taiwan despite China warnings, sources say

U.S. House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi was set to visit Taiwan on Tuesday, three sources said, as the United States said it wouldn't be intimidated by Chinese threats to never "sit idly by" if she made the trip to the self-ruled island claimed by Beijing.
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yeah. sometimes i wonder if this isn't all predetermined in smokey back rooms to give the avg jo an explanation for the US's plummet, when in fact it is just us paying off our massive debts and the global recalibration of power that's been agreed upon...

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Very weird situation, when you know China has bought our political elites, so maybe this is all designed for a conflict with Taiwan? Who knows?
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1/2 DWS is monitoring the situation in Taiwan, but we do not foresee a shooting war resulting from a visit by Pelosi. The most likely occurrence is small display of force by China, such as more launching of rockets into the Strait, possibly cyberattacks.
As a reminder, the USS Ronald Reagan is based in Japan & is currently in its usual AO. Its presence is not unusual in the slightest. Two other smaller carriers have had their tours in that area extended for the duration of Pelosi's visit, but they were already there.
 
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1/2 DWS is monitoring the situation in Taiwan, but we do not foresee a shooting war resulting from a visit by Pelosi. The most likely occurrence is small display of force by China, such as more launching of rockets into the Strait, possibly cyberattacks.
As a reminder, the USS Ronald Reagan is based in Japan & is currently in its usual AO. Its presence is not unusual in the slightest. Two other smaller carriers have had their tours in that area extended for the duration of Pelosi's visit, but they were already there.
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This analysis seems very obtuse in expecting a "small display of force by China." I don't know what world they live in, but in this world, the Chinese are very motivated to "save face." They will not let such a blatant violation of their considered territory pass with shooting a missile into the ocean. What part of the "play with fire" Xi warning, do we not understand?
 
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The Chinese army will surely eliminate Pelosi’s visit’s consequence through the escalation of military operations. As a result, this will make her dejected and humiliated: Global Times Commentator Hu Xijin#HuSays


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Pelosi is expected to land at Songshan Airport at around 10 pm on August the 2nd and stay overnight. A public event is planned, and a meeting with the Legislative Yuan is expected on Wednesday - Taiwanese outlet

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NEW: During Pelosi's visit to Taiwan, she will meet with President Tsai Ing-wen, Vice President Lai Qingde and senior national security officials. - Next TV https://nexttv.com.tw/NextTV/News/Ho
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Shortly after NATO officially named China an enemy target, its in-house think tank (Atlantic Council) just sent a delegation to Taiwan including former Defense Sec. Mark Esper, who declared that Americans must be "educated" into accepting a newly overt war posture against China:
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And THAT is what it comes down to.

Whether China, Pelousy, Iran, Israel, Russia, or Ukraine--

After the latest ECONOMIC reports--

THERE. MUST. BE. A. WAR.

There WILL be a war.

The only question is WHEN.

"Who" doesn't even really MATTER at all.
 
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I still believe if the administration really didn't want her to go to Taiwan, she would not be going to Taiwan. Or if she did, they could make her fly a commercial airline and she wouldn't be taking a congressional deligation with her.

I don't know what the heck exactly is going on, but it is obvious that someone(s) wants her to go there, and yet the administration handlers want a "get out of jail free" card if things go terribly wrong (which they might).

I'd love to think this was just a prideful old windbag ready for a fall due to her own hubris, but my hunch is that is what they want us to think. I suspect that in reality, either she has been offered something she very much wants from this trip or has been made an offer she can't refuse. That last one could be based on her husband's stock trades or other stuff from her own checkered past.
 
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