COMMUNISM Deep down we all know this is a farce, so why do we wear masks

jazzy

jazzy

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Samuel Adams said:
“From the data we have, it still seems to be rare that an asymptomatic person actually transmits onward to a secondary individual,” Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, head of WHO’s emerging diseases and zoonosis unit, said at a news briefing from the United Nations agency’s Geneva headquarters. “It’s very rare.”
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1-- see how vague? what data, whose data, how big of a study cause this is the opposite of research thats been coming out from other nations for months. this statement is meant to calm and steer the masses, it doesnt give evidence, it is opinion

2- remember, for every 'expert' who says one thing, there is another who says different. it has happened so frequently they are just embarrassing themselves now. i suspect this is by design because they have no idea what they are dealing with this bio weapon and have to make up crap to calm the masses. i think that shows theyre scared.

3- another WHO flip--- this came out right after the above statement--- WHO: a top World Health Organization official clarified on Tuesday that scientists have not determined yet how frequently people with asymptomatic cases of Covid-19 pass the disease on to others, a day after suggesting that such spread is “very rare.”

see the game folks? stop listening to the 'experts' who act like the ministers of Truth. we have to dig the data and research ourself. how many times have we been lied to so far by the CDC, WHO, the fauci and friends, etc?

our real problem is the damn virus is still so new the 'experts' really dont know enough to pin it down because it is a bio weapon. the people who catch this are actually guinea pigs for the medical world, arent they? cause No One Really Knows the depth of this damn thing. just lots of assumptions and opinions, they are still just learning.

one constant thing i see is that our vit D levels are critical, the less we have in our body the worse case and more damage we get. i was advised 5000IU a day.

at a time a new bio weapon is loose and spreading around wearing a mask is just plain smart, not fun but smart. just because someone who doesnt wear a mask hasnt gotten it yet doesnt mean they never will.

heck do what you want but stop telling me how stupid i am for wearing a mask because i dont want to get infected with this bio weapon.
 
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bev

bev

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Kathy in FL said:
But ... but ... but ... there'd be that demon thing called accepting personal responsibility and you know we can't let that eeeevil concept infect this country.
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Kathy, I don’t think that accepting personal responsibility is the issue here. We all do that. As we should. You accept responsibility for your decision not to wear a mask, and I accept responsibility for my decision to wear a mask. I’m not asking you to protect me. My issue is that there are many conflicting reports out there regarding covid19 and specifically the wearing of masks.

We can (and should) all do our own research and come up with a plan we’re comfortable with, but then we’re told - here and elsewhere - that the sources we used for our research are no good, “My research is better,” “my sources are better,” and our plan is stupid. We are stupid. We are sheep. For example, the thread title “We all know it’s a hoax.” Really? And what if I don’t “know” it’s a hoax? What about Torah Tips and NaturallySweet, and others here - do they “know it’s a hoax?

What is the big deal? Do your research and decide. Have “the courage of your convictions.” Wear a mask, or don’t. But quit shaming those who have decided to wear a mask AND those who have not!

Last thing...if you come across some new research, post it on the long thread, then be done with it.

We all have more important things to be concerned about.
 
bev

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Kathy in FL said:
I don't have a link but several former colleagues and friends that do research for major teaching hospitals and universities are coming up with the issue that it is cross contamination that causes the majority of cases. And the worst location for cross contamination is in the home and vehicle. Mask reuse and improper disposal is a significant factor. Touching the masks and/or other surfaces and then touching other items like the steering wheel, handles, door knobs, light switches, computer keyboards, etc. Masks do not help with cross contamination, they only complicate it. Gloves would be better if they would teach people how to put on, use, and dispose of properly.

Masks do not help with airborne bacteria and virus except when using a properly fitted and properly used and properly disposed of single use N95 and higher.
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One of my big problems at the beginning of this was when *they* decided and announced that masks do, indeed, help more than just healthcare workers, there was no instruction for their use. Yes, N95’s need to be fit-tested. But they could have given plain language instructions for non-HCWs on how to don and doff other masks. They didn’t. So now probably half the cars in the US have at least one contaminated mask, and it’s owner has no idea.

IMHO, gloves would be worse.
 
psychgirl

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bev said:
That may be. But “most likely” is an opinion. What research is this based on?

ETA: Dr. Fauci is a doctor too. :rolleyes:
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Please don’t offend and drive off the medical people we have here!

I know of one Dr member in particular who has major connections and he no longer posts because of this. We get his info elsewhere now.
 
Maryh

Maryh

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Hubby just went to the cardiologist today, We had to wait in parking lot in car until we were called in. It was 95 outside and I didn't want to run my air constantly sitting there. Once inside, we were taken directly back to the exam room by a girl with a mask on. We had to wear masks to get inside. The PA had a mask on also. The cardiologist walked in with no mask on at all!
Go figure. Last week at my PCP everyone had on a mask but my doctor said it fogged his glasses and only pulled it when he listened to my heart! These guys are doctors, I would assume they are pretty smart and informed! I don't get it.

Forgot to say, cardiologist office took only credit card or check. No cash for co-pay.
 
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Kathy in FL

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bev said:
Kathy, I don’t think that accepting personal responsibility is the issue here. We all do that. As we should. You accept responsibility for your decision not to wear a mask, and I accept responsibility for my decision to wear a mask. I’m not asking you to protect me. My issue is that there are many conflicting reports out there regarding covid19 and specifically the wearing of masks.

We can (and should) all do our own research and come up with a plan we’re comfortable with, but then we’re told - here and elsewhere - that the sources we used for our research are no good, “My research is better,” “my sources are better,” and our plan is stupid. We are stupid. We are sheep. For example, the thread title “We all know it’s a hoax.” Really? And what if I don’t “know” it’s a hoax? What about Torah Tips and NaturallySweet, and others here - do they “know it’s a hoax?

What is the big deal? Do your research and decide. Have “the courage of your convictions.” Wear a mask, or don’t. But quit shaming those who have decided to wear a mask AND those who have not!

Last thing...if you come across some new research, post it on the long thread, then be done with it.

We all have more important things to be concerned about.
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Wear a mask or don't. But don't force anyone to do the opposite of what their own conscience is calling them to do. If they are wrong then they are wrong and they can deal with the consequences. I don't have a problem if people are making their own informed decision to wear a mask. Even if they aren't informed and choose to wear a mask that is still their right. Just don't go all holier than thou and say we have to do it for other people. No. That's like saying "it's for the children." When even the disclaimers on mask packaging support the fact that masks, even surgical masks, are not going to help you then don't try and force other people, guilty other people, coerce through financial penalties, etc. Masks are all show and no substance. But if someone wants to wear them, that's up to them.

But there are real dangers of wearing masks as well. Lowered oxygen intake is just one of them. Dr. G pointed out other problems with the way masks are being used. Cloth masks are especially dangerous in some environments because they aren't designed to protect against airborne bacteria and virus and they also can cause certain types of conditions that lead to pneumonia.

Weight your own situation. Build your own bunker. Decide to stay home or not. Do your own due diligence and research. And take personal responsibility for your decisions rather than blaming others for your situation whatever that may be. Do not try to coerce others to do those things for you. That's like minorities blaming whites for not financially supporting them enough because they are entitled to it.
 
Kathy in FL

Kathy in FL

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bev said:
One of my big problems at the beginning of this was when *they* decided and announced that masks do, indeed, help more than just healthcare workers, there was no instruction for their use. Yes, N95’s need to be fit-tested. But they could have given plain language instructions for non-HCWs on how to don and doff other masks. They didn’t. So now probably half the cars in the US have at least one contaminated mask, and it’s owner has no idea.

IMHO, gloves would be worse.
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If you make a personal choice to wear a mask it is your personal responsibility to learn/know how to use that tool correctly. Like if you buy a gun, your property then your responsibility or risk the consequences.

I think the bigger problem here is that most everything they said to do is all for visual effect - to prove they are doing something even it if is the wrong something. At least is "something" so they get the feel good effect.

If they were to hand out the masks I think they would have a bigger responsibility to explain how to use them properly but since they are aren't, it is up to the end user to get educated. They like to leave themselves an out - plenty of loopholes - to eradicate their responsibility for anything. It is a long standing problem that a lot of people get away with until something happens and it bites them in the butt.
 
bev

bev

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psychgirl said:
Please don’t offend and drive off the medical people we have here!

I know of one Dr member in particular who has major connections and he no longer posts because of this. We get his info elsewhere now.
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My intention is not to offend anyone, but to obtain the research data that led to the statement “most likely.” What was it that led Dr G to that conclusion? Maybe his/her own medical practice, maybe a JAMA article.

There are a lot of opinions out there. We need more facts.

As to the other forum member, I certainly hope we haven’t driven anyone off. These are difficult times, and we should all try to be civil and kind to each other, even if we disagree.
 
Kathy in FL

Kathy in FL

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jazzy said:
1-- see how vague? what data, whose data, how big of a study cause this is the opposite of research thats been coming out from other nations for months. this statement is meant to calm and steer the masses, it doesnt give evidence, it is opinion

2- remember, for every 'expert' who says one thing, there is another who says different. it has happened so frequently they are just embarrassing themselves now. i suspect this is by design because they have no idea what they are dealing with this bio weapon and have to make up crap to calm the masses. i think that shows theyre scared.

3- another WHO flip--- this came out right after the above statement--- WHO: a top World Health Organization official clarified on Tuesday that scientists have not determined yet how frequently people with asymptomatic cases of Covid-19 pass the disease on to others, a day after suggesting that such spread is “very rare.”

see the game folks? stop listening to the 'experts' who act like the ministers of Truth. we have to dig the data and research ourself. how many times have we been lied to so far by the CDC, WHO, the fauci and friends, etc?

our real problem is the damn virus is still so new the 'experts' really dont know enough to pin it down because it is a bio weapon. the people who catch this are actually guinea pigs for the medical world, arent they? cause No One Really Knows the depth of this damn thing. just lots of assumptions and opinions, they are still just learning.

one constant thing i see is that our vit D levels are critical, the less we have in our body the worse case and more damage we get. i was advised 5000IU a day.

at a time a new bio weapon is loose and spreading around wearing a mask is just plain smart, not fun but smart. just because someone who doesnt wear a mask hasnt gotten it yet doesnt mean they never will.

heck do what you want but stop telling me how stupid i am for wearing a mask because i dont want to get infected with this bio weapon.
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This has been going on for a long time but I'll only go back to SARS. During and after SARS there are six major studies on the efficacy of masks. Three were for and three were against. All six studies were done by sound scientific methods with their only difference being populations and study size. As my old boss used to say to her student interns, "Most studies massage the numbers to get them to say what they won't. We will not do that here. I catch you doing it and you're out of the building as fast as I can arrange it." Then they'd get mixed signals from other professors that said that was how you made your study come out correctly.
 
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Theophilus said:
Some stores [Costco] you can't enter without the mask.
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Incorrect. Virginia Costco will allow folks to enter and shop without a mask. They will TELL you that "you must wear a mask," but that is partly optics for other shoppers who fear the 'rona, and partly to "appear" to comply with the governor's EO on this matter and not show a political preference of any sort - the Virginia governor's EO has NO statutory law behind it, besides being unconstitutional.

Second, the Virginia masking EO "allows for" several exceptions to those not wishing to wear a mask.

The "drumbeat" - by the governor's office, by the MSM, et al, by the terrified Karens, and by the retailers - particularly national retailers who do not wish to take a stand on THIS particular "political mountain" - is that "you MUST wear masks" while in public.

Finally, as Dr. Fauci, himself, noted on a recent 60 Minutes interview (and we have discussed ad nauseam on this board) - masks don't stop the COVID-19 virus from entering/exiting the wearer - at all.

Masks - pure optics - herding mechanism - easiest path for most to follow - virtue signaling - cultural "binky/pacifier" - that is all. No scientific reasons or discussions allowed.

Fear The 'Rona® (I am the Great Wizard Of Oz!)


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Ravekid

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Masks aren't a farce, but masks only work if they are used correctly. Masks are nothing more than a barrier. Barriers can work depending on the material and proper usage. Wearing the right kind of mask can protect the person. Those in favor of mandates tried to go the whole "be a hero" route. They said a person should wear a mask to protect others. Well, then I started seeing all these people on Facebook doing their public pat-themselves-on-the-back posts claiming how they are sacrificing whatever it is by wearing a mask because they are a hero, good person, etc.. These fabric, loose, hanging below the nose masks will prevent spread to some extent, but they won't do must for the person wearing them. And since many aren't wearing good masks and/or not wearing them properly, I'm not sure just how much spread people will be reducing.

The N95 and other similar respirators work if worn and used correctly. Sure, they might not stop 100% of the viruses that might be inhaled, but if they stop 90%, a person's immune response might work better than if the person inhaled a larger viral load. Those with an exhalation valve make it easier to breath out.

For the non-respirator mask, there was one company that tested different variations and discovered something. The Suay Sew Shop in Los Angeles discovered that if one uses tightly woven cotton plus certain manufactured blue "shop towels" (specifically Wypall X80 and Zep), the mask filtered out a good amount of particulate when tested with a fit tester, in line with an N95 or better. I'm not sure how well their testing was, but that is the results they posted on their website.
 
Dennis Olson

Dennis Olson

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Meadowlark said:
The covid19 virus escaped for a level 4 biolab facility. In that facility, researches wore total body suits that were similar to what the Apollo astronauts wore on the moon. Yet the virus escaped anyways. Then we are told to wear cloth masks and social distance. Do you honestly belief a fracking piece of cloth is going to protect you?

The worst thing you can do while wearing a mask is to touch it and your face. Yet I have seen the great Dr Fauci touch his mask and face on numerous occasions. On top of that he admitted "lying that masks were not beneficial because of shortages" early on and later changed his toon.

Simply put wearing masks is a form of social cohersion, an enforced group think and a means to increase psychological tension. Literally stirring the pot under high heat with the intention that it boil over and maximize chaos.

Simply put, do you know a better way to bring a democratic republic that to institute a state of fear and chaos. The only thing missing is that the progressives message of how they will solve the fear and chaos is way off the mark. That is still Trump's ace in the hole and why he will win. The enemies only other weapons left is stealing the elections in November. Even so they will pay a terrible price on the state and local level for the over the top antics. California is all but in open rebellion against Governor Newson over his fireworks ban. California is all but alight with millions of illegal fireworks.

Thoughts?
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First, you do whatever you like. We’ll do whatever we like. Everyone happy.

Second, you’re just ranting about “big government and the eeeeeviiiiiiil conspiracy.”

Dude, just SHUT UUUUHHHHHP already. :rolleyes:
 
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jazzy said:
Our real problem is the damn virus is still so new the 'experts' really dont know enough to pin it down because it is a bio weapon. The people who catch this are actually guinea pigs for the medical world, arent they? . . . because no one really knows the depth of this damn thing. just lots of assumptions and opinions, they are still just learning.
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Or, "they" DO KNOW and are not wishing to panic the people - also, we COULD BE dealing with TWO (or more) flavors of the COVID-19 virus - one a virulent killer but difficult to transmit/spread, the other much less so, but much more transmissible - could be an actual act of war perpetrated by unnamed "others," that is a binary bio-weapon of sorts - a low-level effect, but highly transmissible to keep the sheep scared, with an occasional deadly but poorly transmissible version or binary-triggered death version to add a dramatically noticeable but only occasional masterful punctuation to the desired "be scared" narrative/meme herding direction.

AND, what is being labeled as a COVID-19 positive or death MAY BE, in fact, NOT be caused by COVID-19 at ALL - rather another common-cold-type corona virus - we know that the death counts have been artificially inflated using this FALSE method of counting, in some number of areas/cases.

jazzy said:
One constant thing i see is that our vit D levels are critical, the less we have in our body the worse case and more damage we get. i was advised 5000IU a day.

At a time a new bio weapon is loose and spreading around wearing a mask is just plain smart, not fun but smart. Just because someone who doesnt wear a mask hasnt gotten it yet doesnt mean they never will.
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There is zero scientific proof that any available consumer/medical grade masks, including medical/surgical masks, will actually stop the passing-through of a COVID-19 virus. If you wish to assuage your emotional quotient on this matter, feel free to believe that a mask **somehow** slows the spread of COVID-19 viral particles into the general atmosphere.

jazzy said:
Heck do what you want but stop telling me how stupid I am for wearing a mask because I dont want to get infected with this bio weapon.
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How about "in fear," or "a believer of magical anti-COVID-19 properties" when wearing a mask?


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bev said:
My issue is that there are many conflicting reports out there regarding covid19 and specifically the wearing of masks.
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Dr. Fauci, HIMSELF, said in a 60 Minutes interview a month or so, back, that masks do little to stop the actual transmission/spread of the COVID-19 virus.

Dr. Birks ate crow in one of the later briefers, on camera, about the unreliability of the CDC data that she had been using in her statistical models and recommendations to the world-public - and how disappointed she was about finding this out - in other words, Dr. Fauci never told her about this BEFORE she began making her on-camera public declarations and prognostications, based upon that bad CDC data.

All intentional, in the end.


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bev said:
Maybe you’re not aware that NaturallySweet is one of the “survivors” with ongoing symptoms.
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. . . whom I have asked, more than once, whether or not she was ever treated using the pharmaceutical cocktail of hydroxychloroquine + zinc + azrithomycin + liposomal vitamin C - received no response to my query - it IS an important question regarding the treatment of COVID-19 positive/hospitalization episodes.


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ambereyes

ambereyes

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intothatgoodnight said:
. . . whom I have asked, more than once, whether or not she was ever treated using the pharmaceutical cocktail of hydroxychloroquine + zinc + azrithomycin + liposomal vitamin C - received no response to my query - it IS an important question regarding the treatment of COVID-19 positive/hospitalization episodes.


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I have asked if she was tested, my parents were tested several times each.
 
L.A.B.

L.A.B.

Goodness before greatness.
Coco82919 said:
I have to wear a mask 10 hours while at work. I found these cheap looped over the ears mask and wear these. They are the only masks I can breath with. Some of the surgical masks drop my oxygen sats into the high 80's. I agree that we are not helping prevent the spread of covid with any of the masks being used. I let my patients remove their masks behind the curtains if they wish. I feel these masks are killing us. I wear mine as loosely as I can get away with. I am sure I will catch covid again. So I still take some elderberry juice everyday and Vitamin C and D. Also oregano oil. I also think we will see a lot of people with cavities on their teeth. The masks make my mouth so dry. As soon as I walk away from my patients I lower my mask for a minute or two before seeing the next one.
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Measure your Oxygen rating before and after.

My wife who is normally 100 or 99%, measured 96% while donning the mask 30 minutes prior to a doctor’s appointment today.

I watched a 90 year old male at the same office don his N-95, and watched his eyes get droopy after sitting down to wait for his appointment.

DW has no lung or heart ailment.
 
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Border Collie Dad

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bev said:
Maybe you’re not aware that NaturallySweet is one of the “survivors” with ongoing symptoms.
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I'm sorry that she was sick.
As some just above this said, she hasn't answered questions.

I would ask what test was used or how was it determined to be covid-19?
 
Lone_Hawk

Lone_Hawk

Resident Spook
When God decides my clock reads four zeros.... well, I don't think I have much to say about it... he already knows..
 
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raven

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at this point, there is only one reason to wear a mask and follow their rules.
only one.
it minimizes contact with assholes who feel it is their morale duty to assault you and force you to wear a mask

contact with people (even those wearing a mask) increases your risk of contact with the virus.
make a list, wait for foot traffic to slow down, put on the mask, get in and get out.
you can't have a conversation with a mask
and if you wear glasses, you will pull it below your nose to keep from fogging them up
and people will see you wearing your mask wrong and avoid you.

the masks people are wearing are a placebo. that was established in February. all the Chinese in Wuhan have been wearing masks for years
 
rafter

rafter

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psychgirl said:
Please don’t offend and drive off the medical people we have here!

I know of one Dr member in particular who has major connections and he no longer posts because of this. We get his info elsewhere now.
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I was wondering where our doctors that were here went. I really appreciated all their info. Sad.
 
Meadowlark

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Dennis Olson said:
First, you do whatever you like. We’ll do whatever we like. Everyone happy.

Second, you’re just ranting about “big government and the eeeeeviiiiiiil conspiracy.”

Dude, just SHUT UUUUHHHHHP already. :rolleyes:
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I think I just heard a mouse in the pantry. I am rather surprised at your angry outburst. I also already said all do as they wish. I will still wear one in the doctors office, but refuse to wear one in Kroger. Nothing more to say.
 
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Orion Commander

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My employer requires a mask. We are screened every day by asking the three questions. Are you ill? Have you traveled to a foreign country (as if I could fly to Hattie and back overnight)? Have you been exposed ( as if I would know)? I usually enter and just say no,no, and no. That's my screening.

I play the game so I keep my job. We don't have to wear it when we eat lunch in the break room.
 
L.A.B.

L.A.B.

Goodness before greatness.
Border Collie Dad said:
I was waiting for someone to talk about masks so I could ask how they were protecting their eyes.

I see no one protecting their eyes.

Is this like a shield
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In early January & February, I was wearing a 3-M silicone Half mask with 2-external P-100 rated filters. I had purchased some Smith brand ballistic goggles, vented with a fine pore face sealing foam gasket.

When the two independent pieces are nested together they look like a subdued grey gas mask due to color and synchronized fit. No I didn’t plan it that way...

The major misconception with PC Karen’s & Kenny’s, is that PPE was / is designed to protect the wearer, not the guy to your right or left, or the paranoid 6 feet or 26’ feet from you.

Kenny & Karen subscribe to a spectrum of philosophy and thought, somewhere between the frustrated liberal mind, and those who are uncomfortable in their proggie shoes no matter the socks they have laid out.

Mandating PPE’s for protecting would equate to forcing a liberal to carry a gun for same.

Experience might only help the cognitive. Masked zombies just don't seem to get it.
 
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYRO6NldUP4


Runtime: 21:50

According to Dr. Bartlett, Japan, Taiwan and Singapore all have very low death rates, using a COVID-19 treatment similar to his recommended treatment.

Dr. Bartlett's Treatment Protocol

1) Inhaled steroid - Budesonide, sold under the brand name Pulmicort

2) Antibiotic - Clarithromycin, sold under the brand name Biaxin

3) Zinc

Good interview - Dr. Bartlett explains his experiences in treating COVID-19, the safety of the drugs that he is recommending, and how this recommended treatment protocol works.

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View the entire "American Can We Talk" interview with Dr. Richard Bartlett

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Runtime: 31:11


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Dennis Olson

Dennis Olson

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Meadowlark said:
I think I just heard a mouse in the pantry. I am rather surprised at your angry outburst. I also already said all do as they wish. I will still wear one in the doctors office, but refuse to wear one in Kroger. Nothing more to say.
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You think that was ANGRY? I could show you angry. That ain’t it.
 
Kathy in FL

Kathy in FL

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For those that haven't bothered reading the labels on the various masks or on OSHA's website:

Cloth face coverings:

  • May be commercially produced or improvised (i.e., homemade) garments, scarves, bandanas, or items made from t-shirts or other fabrics.
  • Are worn in public over the nose and mouth to contain the wearer's potentially infectious respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs, sneezes, or talks and to limit the spread of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19), to others.
  • Are not considered personal protective equipment (PPE).
  • Will not protect the wearer against airborne transmissible infectious agents due to loose fit and lack of seal or inadequate filtration.
  • Are not appropriate substitutes for PPE such as respirators (e.g., N95 respirators) or medical face masks (e.g., surgical masks) in workplaces where respirators or face masks are recommended or required to protect the wearer.
  • May be used by almost any worker, although those who have trouble breathing or are otherwise unable to put on or remove a mask without assistance should not wear one.
  • May be disposable or reusable after proper washing.
Surgical masks:

  • Are typically cleared by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration as medical devices (though not all devices that look like surgical masks are actually medical-grade, cleared devices).
  • Are used to protect workers against splashes and sprays (i.e., droplets) containing potentially infectious materials. In this capacity, surgical masks are considered PPE. Under OSHA's PPE standard (29 CFR 1910.132), employers must provide any necessary PPE at no-cost to workers.1
  • May also be worn to contain the wearer's respiratory droplets (e.g., healthcare workers, such as surgeons, wear them to avoid contaminating surgical sites, and dentists and dental hygienists wear them to protect patients).
  • Should be placed on sick individuals to prevent the transmission of respiratory infections that spread by large droplets.
  • Will not protect the wearer against airborne transmissible infectious agents due to loose fit and lack of seal or inadequate filtration.
  • May be used by almost anyone.
  • Should be properly disposed of after use.
Respirators (e.g., filtering facepieces):

  • Are used to prevent workers from inhaling small particles, including airborne transmissible or aerosolized infectious agents.
  • Must be provided and used in accordance with OSHA's Respiratory Protection standard (29 CFR 1910.134).
 
thorr

thorr

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Well I’ve decided that it’s not a line in the sand for me. All public places in WNC requires your nose and mouth to be covered.
Doesn’t matter my personal views on it.
And at this point, grey is the color..
Did a bit of research and it seems like the base camp mask are well built. So I purchased two cloth mask. They’re pretty pointless..
Then I purchased two base camp N99.
I’ll review them when they arrive....

 
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