COMMUNISM Deep down we all know this is a farce, so why do we wear masks

[bobfall2005]

"You're murdering us cause you don't wear a mask"

" You're sending us to the fema camps, cause you're wearing a mask"

My new fav.
"You talk to much. This has already been discussed. Move along."

Humm. Humm. how to respond?
Probably shouldn't.

(Grammer)

 

[L.A.B.]

Reaching.

Not really.

Noticing and Watching trends in real time is projecting. ——> ••••••••• • •

“Reaching” would have been if I was a member here in mid-August 2001, and I stood on a soap box, and emphatically blurted out “This country is about to be attacked.”

Instead...

That witness was also a ‘Bev‘
Beverly D’L***

Beverly was a good witness, who enlightened me after my ‘intuitive’ Tourettes statement. The whispered info across the grocery store conveyor was enough to put my (((focus))) into gear and was a definitive conscious bump for happen-chancing into ‘two competing’ entities for freedoms fate.

The bad-boy’s in the rental car ‘may have’ also been the [same ones I read of here at TB2K] a couple years ago that RECON’ed Marina Del Rey area in [That Pre-September 2001timeframe] for attack, and possible the small port town in Los Angeles Harbor gateway where we got within 40 yards of each other before the five ran off to their rental car and split. I guess my non-diplomatic side startled them, and they did not want undue attention from the guy reaching premature profiling conclusions.

If I seem to be reaching, keep in mind individual perspective will always offer a unique view.

 

[L.A.B.]

"You're murdering us cause you don't where a mask"

" You're sending us to the fema camps, cause you're wearing a mask"

My new fav.
"You talk to much. This has already been discussed. Move along."

Humm. Humm. how to respond?
Probably shouldn't.

Shadow ban.

UN Protocols.

Dissent in the face of the momentum of compliance will not be tolerated.

 

[bobfall2005]

View: https://youtu.be/L9QWghSpxoo


Rt 104:19

Ep 1293 drawing a line in the sand.
The Dan Bongino show.


Dan is for liberty. When it cost.

 

[SackLunch]

Measure your Oxygen rating before and after.

My wife who is normally 100 or 99%, measured 96% while donning the mask 30 minutes prior to a doctor’s appointment today.

Excellent idea. If my O2 saturation goes down while wearing my flimsy homemade Karen deterrent...that would signal me to rethink this issue.

Has anyone else measured oxygen levels with and without masks?

 

[TammyinWI]

Measure your Oxygen rating before and after.

My wife who is normally 100 or 99%, measured 96% while donning the mask 30 minutes prior to a doctor’s appointment today.

I watched a 90 year old male at the same office don his N-95, and watched his eyes get droopy after sitting down to wait for his appointment.

DW has no lung or heart ailment.

That is horrid. And the evil ptb are trying to "debunk" the truth, about hypoxia in the body...or lowered O2 levels. The search engines bring up for the top results that it is a myth that masks lower O2 to the body...scam.

That is worse for the strength of the immune system and for all the organs in the body, much worse that this virus, which Laura Ingraham talked about the other night- this everything they are doing to impose fear and get the sheep to act (out of fear) is a scam. She said "scam" during her program...and I agree.

Get the truth out.

 

[Dozdoats]

The Truth is not relevant where The Agenda is concerned.

 

[Samuel Adams]

Did someone say “scam” ?!!

5:22

Man asks some very pertinent questions regarding the bigger picture.

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-_qMdSBu9Hk#

 

[Dozdoats]

Arrest that man, he's had too much to think.

 

[Texican]

In Texas, masks are required to enter any business, grocery store, big box store, etc.

No mask, no entry. Everyone including store employees were wearing masks and some not correctly.

Texican....

 

[L.A.B.]

Excellent idea. If my O2 saturation goes down while wearing my flimsy homemade Karen deterrent...that would signal me to rethink this issue.

Has anyone else measured oxygen levels with and without masks?

Guess who is live right now discussing on the radio this very O2 saturation topic in regards to face masks and decreased Oxygen levels.

Clyde Lewis at Ground Zero radio. At least the last caller as I just tuned in.

 

[SackLunch]

Just checked. No change in O2 saturation after wearing flimsy Karen deterrent mask while walking around for 20 min.

Has anyone else tested with pulse oximeter while wearing masks?

What did Clyde Lewis say?

 

[JF&P]

I wear a mask when in Public....which is when I go to the Grocery store and to the Drs office.

I have congestive heart failure and am 73 years old....I have to take every precaution in order to stay alive.

HELLO???!!!

ALSO, When does wearing a mask have anything to do with communism????.......LOL

Me thinks the OP is a DRAMA QUEEN.

 

[Old Gringo]

Here’s a suggestion....

Why don’t we all just agree to disagree?

If there is new research to post, put it in the long thread.

It’s annoying to see the same arguments over and over. Like dupes.

bev ..... I agree completely.

Grandpa used to say you have no right to complain unless you can do it better .
I know there is a multitude of extremely intelligent talented members of this forum.
May I issue a challenge;
What would you do better given the problem ?

just wondering......

 

[Parakeet]

ALSO, When does wearing a mask have anything to do with communism????.......LOL

Me thinks the OP is a DRAMA QUEEN.

When Communist Governors, who do not have the power to legislate, attempt to write laws dictating that citizens must wear them or suffer law enforcement consequences.

 

[JF&P]

When Communist Governors, who do not have the power to legislate, attempt to write laws dictating that citizens must wear them or suffer law enforcement consequences.

Sorry I disagree....why? Because two folks in my immediate circle of acquaintances have tested positive for Covid and I haven't and yes I have been tested by my local hospital. With Congestive heart failure and my age 73 I am wearing a mask not because of any government edict but because I want to increase my chances of staying ALIVE!!!

Two weeks ago when I went shopping at Safeway hardly anyone but employees were wearing masks....yesterday when I walked into Safeway almost everyone (non employees) was wearing a mask....and for that I am thankful.

 

[Parakeet]

Sorry I disagree....why? Because two folks in my immediate circle of acquaintances have tested positive for Covid and I haven't and yes I have been tested by my local hospital. With Congestive heart failure and my age 73 I am wearing a mask not because of any government edict but because I want to increase my chances of staying ALIVE!!!

Two weeks ago when I went shopping at Safeway hardly anyone but employees were wearing masks....yesterday when I walked into Safeway almost everyone (non employees) was wearing a mask....and for that I am thankful.

I respect your right to disagree. However, I stand by my statement. The governors made it political when they overstepped their authority by legislating, through threat of legal action, the behavior of citizens. I don't think the little tyrant's overstepping will stop with masks. Next up our anonymity, privacy and freedom is at risk via their Contact Tracing, soon to be followed by mandatory vaccination, for ya know, the good of society

 

[JF&P]

Just so you know, my reading tells me that Contact Tracing doesn't and won't work....additionally, I will refuse any vaccination as the virus has mutated at least 5-6 times.

 

[TheSearcher]

Just so you know, my reading tells me that Contact Tracing doesn't and won't work....additionally, I will refuse any vaccination as the virus has mutated at least 5-6 times.

Contact tracing doesn't work for what? For Covid tracing? Maybe. It certainly allows the government a wide window into the lives of others, just because they can. Do you think that contact tracing goes away when Covid does?

As for vaccinations, why would you refuse? You're just helping your fellow man by taking it, right? Besides, what chance does a 73-year-old man with congestive heart failure have to successfully resist vaccination if the government says it's mandatory?

 

[Parakeet]

Just so you know, my reading tells me that Contact Tracing doesn't and won't work....additionally, I will refuse any vaccination as the virus has mutated at least 5-6 times.

I ask this in all sincerity, no snark intended. If the government can mandate masks, what makes you think they won't require you to get a vaccination?

 

[Hfcomms]

I ask this in all sincerity, no snark intended. If the government can mandate masks, what makes you think they won't require you to get a vaccination?

Sure, they will require you to be vaccinated. Enforcement of that edict is another thing altogether.

 

[Parakeet]

Sure, they will require you to be vaccinated. Enforcement of that edict is another thing altogether.

I guess it all depends on where your line in the sand is. To quote the leftist, "my body, my choice."

 

[Border Collie Dad]

Sure, they will require you to be vaccinated. Enforcement of that edict is another thing altogether.

Easily enforceable.
Some possibles:
OSHA regulation that no vaccine no work
No government funds including social security
Maybe get to the point of internment camps

 

[Faroe]

Easily enforceable.
Some possibles:
OSHA regulation that no vaccine no work
No government funds including social security
Maybe get to the point of internment camps

Yes. easy to enforce.
Don't forget public school, and univ. enrollment.
CPS!
Add in public transportation - subway, bus, trains, and flights.
They may deny entry into a hospital - no injection no medical care.

The noose tightens.

 

[bw]

Grandpa used to say you have no right to complain unless you can do it better.

Grandpa spoke garbage.

 

[Border Collie Dad]

Yes. easy to enforce.
Don't forget public school, and univ. enrollment.
CPS!
Add in public transportation - subway, bus, trains, and flights.
They may deny entry into a hospital - no injection no medical care.

The noose tightens.

They don't have to give you the vaccine at the point of a gun.
Strongly incentivize

 

[Old Gringo]

Grandpa spoke garbage.

Like most of your posts but disagree with your reply.

Advice tends to produce solutions rather then sitting around whining about stuff.

O.G.

 

[bw]

Advice tends to produce solutions rather then sitting around whining about stuff.

I have no professional expertise in avionics, yet I'm free to complain that Boeing did a lousy job with the 737 Max. While giving advice or suggesting alternatives is better, it's not a requirement for voicing a complaint.

 

[Old Gringo]

I have no professional expertise in avionics, yet I'm free to complain that Boeing did a lousy job with the 737 Max. While giving advice or suggesting alternatives is better, it's not a requirement for voicing a complaint.

Thank you. A viewpoint I hadn't considered.

 

[Hfcomms]

Easily enforceable.
Some possibles:
OSHA regulation that no vaccine no work
No government funds including social security
Maybe get to the point of internment camps

Not so easy. They can’t confiscate firearms and disarm the American people or they would of done it already. Government is breaking down on all levels as we are witnessing. Just try to make me take a vaccine. That is a red line for me. I won’t work if that is mandated, I won‘t take SS if it’s even around in another four years when I’m eligible and if they send people to ‘make’ me take it they are in for a fight and I still know how to do that. At heart I’m nonviolent but don’t cross one of my few red lines and that would be one of them.

 

[TheSearcher]

Not so easy. They can’t confiscate firearms and disarm the American people or they would of done it already. Government is breaking down on all levels as we are witnessing. Just try to make me take a vaccine. That is a red line for me. I won’t work if that is mandated, I won‘t take SS if it’s even around in another four years when I’m eligible and if they send people to ‘make’ me take it they are in for a fight and I still know how to do that. At heart I’m nonviolent but don’t cross one of my few red lines and that would be one of them.

We've accepted the quarantine of the healthy, and masks that are more fashion statements and symbols of submission, all under a guise of fear and appeals to "the greater good". The black hats think they are on roll... because they are.

Vaccines are the big prize, don't think they won't try to administer them via force if need be. It doesn't matter if they can win that battle, they think they can and will proceed accordingly. It will suck.

 

[danielboon]

We've accepted the quarantine of the healthy, and masks that are more fashion statements and symbols of submission, all under a guise of fear and appeals to "the greater good". The black hats think they are on roll... because they are.

Vaccines are the big prize, don't think they won't try to administer them via force if need be. It doesn't matter if they can win that battle, they think they can and will proceed accordingly. It will suck.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItHcsIHshhs

 

[danielboon]

“But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.”

 

[Meadowlark]

I wear a mask when in Public....which is when I go to the Grocery store and to the Drs office.

I have congestive heart failure and am 73 years old....I have to take every precaution in order to stay alive.

HELLO???!!!

ALSO, When does wearing a mask have anything to do with communism????.......LOL

Me thinks the OP is a DRAMA QUEEN.

drama or not, this thread seems to have legs. And I never said don't wear a mask. I am just questioning should everyone wear a mask when their advocacy is questionable.

 

[intothatgoodnight]

Sorry I disagree....why? Because two folks in my immediate circle of acquaintances have tested positive for Covid and I haven't and yes I have been tested by my local hospital. With Congestive heart failure and my age 73 I am wearing a mask not because of any government edict but because I want to increase my chances of staying ALIVE!!!

Two weeks ago when I went shopping at Safeway hardly anyone but employees were wearing masks....yesterday when I walked into Safeway almost everyone (non employees) was wearing a mask....and for that I am thankful.

In your example, YOU should isolate away from the general public, due to your pre-existing conditions. This is the way it has ALWAYS been in the past with pandemics - isolate the sick, or those whose physical health status would suggest that they stay away from the rest of the non-isolated general populations until the pandemic subsides.

The various governor's orders to isolate EVERYBODY, while destroying jobs, businesses and negatively impacting the state economy, are wholly unconstitutional.

If you are concerned, stay home - wear a mask - personally isolate - THAT is OK.

Others will choose NOT to stay home, nor wear a mask. That is their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT.

As mentioned before, the Founding Fathers were WELL AWARE of the dangers presented by a pandemic - and how those pandemics would flow through a population - yet, NOT ONE WORD regarding pandemics was included in the U.S. Constitution and BOR.

Why did the Founding Fathers CHOOSE Constitutional silence on the matter of pandemics?


intothegoodnight

 

[bw]

Thank you. A viewpoint I hadn't considered.

I apologize for my first response. It was unnecessarily testy, and no disrespect was due to your grandfather. My mother used to lecture us that we had no right to an opinion on elected officials unless we lived in their jurisdiction and voted in their election. Guess I got triggered here. I eventually told her that one could express an opinion on the US only if one served in the military, and that left me as the only family member with a right to speak.

 

[Samuel Adams]

In your example, YOU should isolate away from the general public, due to your pre-existing conditions. This is the way it has ALWAYS been in the past with pandemics - isolate the sick, or those whose physical health status would suggest that they stay away from the rest of the non-isolated general populations until the pandemic subsides.

The various governor's orders to isolate EVERYBODY, while destroying jobs, businesses and negatively impacting the state economy, are wholly unconstitutional.

If you are concerned, stay home - wear a mask - personally isolate - THAT is OK.

Others will choose NOT to stay home, nor wear a mask. That is their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT.

As mentioned before, the Founding Fathers were WELL AWARE of the dangers presented by a pandemic - and how those pandemics would flow through a population - yet, NOT ONE WORD regarding pandemics was included in the U.S. Constitution and BOR.

Why did the Founding Fathers CHOOSE Constitutional silence on the matter of pandemics?


intothegoodnight

They were well versed in adages.....and the fundamental necessities referenced by them.

“Don’t let the camel’s nose under the tent flap”.

“Give an inch, they’ll take a mile.”

“The buck stops here.”

“The smallest and most inoffensive state is still criminal in its dreams.”


And so on......

 

[L.A.B.]

Just so you know, my reading tells me that Contact Tracing doesn't and won't work....additionally, I will refuse any vaccination as the virus has mutated at least 5-6 times.

JF&P, I wish you a long life of freedom, and gladly don a mask when I go indoors even if the crowd of young men are 30 years my junior, 40 years yours. Simple respect for others.

Now... This perspective.

In January & February when unknown viruses were knocking down some of the 20-somethings through 30-somethings, I was wearing by choice and ABILITY, a 3-M silicone half mask and goggles with P-100 dual cheek filters out of logical caution in regards to the environment I was stepping into for 5 minutes twice a day.

Months later the momentum of fear of the unknown and unproven MANDATES a mask. Based on the political power of that fear, how are you going to avoid submitting to the coming MANDATES of vaccinations?

I’m asking now because I’m sure the same logical personal justification in your case, in why mandated masking is no problem, can be observed in a case against the potential of mandated vaccines in the future.

I cannot conceive a logical approach at this justification, and I am always interested in approaches our handlers may attempt to implement. As a fan of Sun Tzu, I always prefer to attack plans. So much easier with verbs and meme’s.

How are you going to:

Morally

Legally

Physically

justify abiding by the mask MANDATE, while ignoring a potential vaccine MANDATE.

Do you not see the voluntary BETA-TEST of fear of the unknown ALL MASKED UP IN A COMPLIANCE DRILL?

PS. <—- ALL CAP’s is not yelling on-line, it’s EMPHASIS on my part.


ETA: Two folks on my wife's side of the family out of country have expired to COVID-19 where an entrenched communist dictator five or six months ago said it was “A Yankee Disease.”

One case in all probability of timing-exposure-and incubation time-line, occurred in a dentist office while he (the dentist) wore a mask.

A second case, a professional in government not blood related or by marriage.

PPE...

The 1st acronym (P) stands for personal. You CANNOT MANDATED “PERSONAL” in a free nation.

 

[rbt]

I think this says it all. Just got a call OSHA fined a restaurant in town 7k for not following there rules Communist are in charge

 

[Coco82919]

My neighbor was found dead in her bed last week. I had talked with her about 3 weeks earlier. She has some health issues such as breast cancer and insulin dependent diabetes. She said she had been isolating since March. She said she had not let her grandchildren near her and had not gotten to hold her newest grandchild who was just a few month old. She also had a roommate because she needed the money she provided. Her roommate did not isolate herself and who go out fairly often. She called DHS because her roommate would not wear a mask in the house. (I know I would refuse to wear a mask in my home as well). I told her she should probably make the exception and hold her newest grandchild. I don't know if she ever did. I have not seen her family and have not found out what the autopsy showed. I feel that she lost all the time being lonely, frightened, angry and isolated. She should have spent that time with her family.

I get why she was afraid of the virus but we never know what will be the thing that kills us. Many of my friends are now stopping isolating elderly parents because they are getting lonely and depressed. They are still limiting a lot of contact but not as extreme. No one knows how long this will go on and do not want their parents to die lonely and frighted. In my opinion, sometimes we just need to live our lives and take our chances.